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  1. eernie1

    Dear JR,
    An interesting aspect of QM is that the basic equations were derived from mathematical relationships called Fourier series which described the relationship between frequency and time of a wave. By mathematically adding the simple sine and cosine series through a variation of phase and amplitude, both Schrodinger and Heisenberg concocted their equations which described the relationship between motion(energy) and time of individual particles. throw in a bit of field theory and you can( if you are a half way decent mathematician) predict all sorts of weird situations. With the aid of a bit of dimensional analysis you can also link the various universal constants together. This approach was used by people like Einstein and Dirac to predict various scientific outcomes such as antimatter and relativistic effects. My point is you can mathematically predict almost anything, but only direct observation of a result can give complete confidence. By the way, are you connected in any way with Argonne Labs? I did some work with a researcher named Smaller in the late 1950 which involved electron spin. He was quite a competent physicist.

  2. Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Andrea,

    This report is not for dummies.

    A lot of what was written, is meant also to explain to the intended public that good attention was made not to make measurement errors, while hiding important IP issues.

    We learn that the resistances are “coils” with Ni alloy. That was new. We don’t know their (individual) “coil-icity” nor each of their “resisanc-icities”. So any speculation may be wrong.

    I assume that you did not allow to use some endoscope, or to put some product in it to allow the professors to look through the walls and components of the E-cat, the way sometimes weldings are being checked. I would not allow that if I were you. So it is very normal that you were there when the device was opened. It is also very normal that the professors could not use pliers by themselves to open the device.

    The E-cat is not using DC nor sinewave 3-phase. E-Cat is not a 3-ph motor nor a transformer, nor anything else that is well known. So everyone should pay attention not to use simplified formulas from basic theory books.
    One can only use information that is for sure, and if in doubt, take the worst-case approach.

    The poweranalyser is basically a computer that interprets in a “state of the art”-way every signal of every probe connected to it. You just have to be sure that you don’t use signals that are out of range of the probes and the computer. For the rest: follow the manual. Amen.

    Kind regards,
    Koen.

    PS: If I ever meet your spam-robot in real life, he (or she) owes me a drink.

  3. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    The robot,scared, obliged.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  4. JR

    Eernie,

    Wlad said: “Eernie, the existence of the halo neutron in the 11Be with orbit radius 7fm can be explained only by considering the nuclear model proposed in Quantum Ring Theory.”

    Slight correction: he forgot to mention that it can also be explained by any of the half-dozen or so calculations shown in the paper that made the measurement. Most if these were predictions made before the measurement, if I remember correctly.

  5. Andrew

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    I believe that there are some clarification that either you, or the professors through you have to make, to justify the relevance of the TPRII.
    You have already commented on this but your answer was not satisfying at all.
    You stated that the behaviour of the resistances changes and it’s Not linear (in particolar behaving as a negative resistance from 500-1200 and holding constant from that temperature on) .
    But we all know that inconel has not that characteristic, with or without reactions involved.
    Therefore i believe that you can’t just state that you cannot comment further on this, especially being aware that through the report some fundamental mistakes are carried out such as :
    Page 14:

    ”Measurements performed during the dummy run with the PCE and ammeter clamps allowed us to measure an average current, for each of the three C1 cables, of I1 = 19.7A, and, for each C2 cable, a current of I1 / 2 = I2 = 9.85 A.”

    That is sistematically wrong since I2=I1/1.732

  6. Andrea Rossi

    Andrew:
    Your comment is a typical example of the effects of the stupidities made by fake experts like “Raman”, that act as Professors, but lack the foundamentals of Physics, Electronics and Electrotechnics. The effects are that persons like you, clearly missing a professional understanding of the matter, instead of reading seriously a Report written by 6 Professors with a life dedicated to Science and Physics in particular, read the stupidities of imbeciles with an agenda and make us loose time to answer to absurd objections. I am not angry at you, you are just a candid non-expert-person, I am angry because every stupidity gets attention and we, honestly, do not have the time to answer. As you have perhaps read, I already suggested as a reference the wonderful book “Electronics for Dummies” to the “Prof” you got inspiration from, but he does not listen to me and continues to repeat the same stupidities.
    Again:
    The coils of the reactor are made with a proprietary alloy, and the inconel is only a doped component of it. Your phrase “”with or without reactions involved” is pretty arrogant, and such arrogance, perhaps, forbids you to try to understand what I wrote. If you read carefully what I wrote and what is written in the Report, you will see that “with or without reactions” is a stupidity. The nature and composition of the coils are of paramount importance in our IP and for obvious reasons I will not give any more information, albeit you demand to me not to “state that (I) cannot comment further on this, ESPECIALLY BEING AWARE THAT THROUGH THE REPORT SOME FUNDAMENTAL ( SIC!) MISTAKES ARE CARRIED OUT, SUCH AS..” and at this point you add another titanic stupidity that the Readers can find in your comment: whom do you think you are talking with ?
    And here is the answer to your titanically stupid statement ( I know, you are not the author of the titanic stupidity, you are just parrotting the suggestions of “Prof” Raman): just, please read … I will write in very simple language, to allow you (and “Prof” Raman, who insists not to buy ‘Electronics for Dummies’ as I suggested him) to understand, with a small effort and some focus (to Raman I suggest not to chew a gum at the same time).
    THE ALIMENTATION CABLING OF THE REACTOR IS COMPOSED BY MEANS OF 2 PARTS FOR EVERY ROW:
    1- ONE PART FROM THE CONTROL SYSTEM TO THE JOINT (C); THIS PART IS NAMED C1
    2- AFTER THE JOINT C THE SAME CURRENT IS SUBDIVIDED INTO 2 ROWS HAVING THE SAME SECTION AND LENGTH: WE CALL THEM C2
    BASED ON THE KIRCHHOFF LAW ( ALSO CALLED KICHHOFF JUNCTION RULE) , WE CAN MAKE THE DEDUCTION THAT THE CURRENT THAT FLOWS THROUGH THE ROW C1 IS EQUAL TO THE DOUBLE OF THE CURRENT THAT FLOWS ALONG EACH OF THE ROWS NAMED C2.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  7. Tom Conover

    Hello Andrea Rossi and Vessela Nikolova,

    Still hoping for published article, perhaps is that what Vessela Nikolova refers to when saying “The publication is a matter of days”? Your replies to our postings are treasures to store for us, we look forward to climbing the lattice with you into the new energy age of abundant, clean, and renewable power.

    Tom Conover

    ref: Vessela Nikolova
    October 18th, 2014 at 4:23 PM
    Hello Andrea, after about one year my book has come to an end. The publication is a matter of days… I wish you a nice day.
    Vessela

  8. Andrea Rossi

    Tom Conover:
    Ms Vessela Nikolova ier referring to a book she wrote. Nothing to do with the Report of the ITP.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  9. JCRenoir

    Dr Rossi:
    Will the Professors of the ITP answer to the comments made about their report?
    Thank you,
    JCR

  10. Andrea Rossi

    JCRenoir:
    The Professors told me that they are discussing the questions that merit an answer and that will answer to such questions by means of updates of the report published on
    http://www.elforsk.se/LENR-mattrapport-publicerad
    Their report will be then periodically updated with all the necessary answers.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  11. George

    Dear Dr. Rossi, needs to be done soon with the hot cat or our planet because of oil and fossil fuels will have serious problems. See the video of NASA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk5FgtLBP8c

  12. Wladimir Guglinski

    eernie1 wrote in October 17th, 2014 at 7:41 PM

    Dear Andrea,
    I have read much discussion by critics about the role of the independent test in verifying your device. They claim since the test was not 100% independent because of your minimal involvement, the whole test was not admissible as evidence.
    ———————————————–

    Dear Eernie,
    suppose that Rossi had invented the plane, and he invited you to test his invention, as follows: driving his plane, you would have to cross the sea between USA and Europe.

    But as you do not know how to drive his plane, the test started with Andrea Rossi giving you instructions on how to drive his invention.

    So, after some explanations, you did put the plane to fly, and you alone crossed the sea.

    But of course some people would claim:

    “The test of the Rossi’s invention made by Eernie is not 100% independent, because Eernie crossed the sea between the Europe and USA with the Rossi’s plane, however Rossi gave to him some initial instructions on how to drive the machine”

    I have doubt if such sort of critic is 100% reasonable.

    regards
    wlad

  13. Wladimir Guglinski

    eernie1 wrote in
    October 10th, 2014 at 10:43 AM

    1) ———————————
    Dear Wlad,
    Since the Halo Neutron of the 11Be has been observed, the possible existence of a Halo Neutron in the 7Li cannot be ignored despite the theories of the SQM.
    ————————————-

    Eernie,
    the existence of the halo neutron in the 11Be with orbit radius 7fm can be explained only by considering the nuclear model proposed in Quantum Ring Theory.
    See 5- Halo neutron 4Be11 in the page 69 of the paper Stability of Light Nuclei:
    http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/Stability%20of%20light%20nuclei.pdf

    For supposing a 7Li with halo neutron would also require new foundations for Nuclear Physics, as those proposed in my Quantum Ring Theory.

    My aim is just to show that there is no way to explain cold fusion by considering the current principles of the Standard Nuclear Physics, since the current nuclear models are not able to explain even many other puzzles, like the halo neutron of the 11Be.

    2) —————————————–
    Assuming its existence and the looseness of its bond in the 7Li nucleus, there are a number of possibilities for creating and applying enough energy to allow the neutron to be expelled with added energy. One use for the hydrogen protons added to the device may be to create multiple microwave ovens in the cracks of the Ni complex. My reasoning is that the cracks contain a strong magnetic field created by the heated NI atoms which align the spins of the H protons inserted into the cavities of the cracks. Then with the influence of an applied RF field(pulsed) the ensuing microwave oven RF then causes the 7Li nucleus to release its Halo Neutron and the dance begins. I have other thoughts about the possible generation of stimulating energy, but I need more time to think about it.
    Wlad, Has Pandora’s box been opened?

    No if you keep the current foundations of the Standard Nuclear Physics.

    regards
    wlad

  14. Andrea Rossi

    Patrik Wiksten:
    I do not know if you will read this comment, because probably you do not know we reported the link of your “Open Letter” published on LENR Forum.
    I just want to thank you for the paradigma you offered of a Galilean way of thinking opposed to a paradigma of “Sancta Inquisitio” way of thinking.
    The Professors just made measurements and, while I agree upon the difficulty to reconcile the 62Ni percentage shift – about which we are studying and I hope soon we will have a plausible answer, totally respecting the Standard Model – I did not see any serious critic of all the complex calculations made in the published Report, while I saw many mistakes, like ” the clamps have been swapped” ( false), ” the calculation of the resistances shows that the E-Cat does not respect the Ohm’s Law” ( false, the resistances do not have a linear response to the temperature in the coil of the E-Cat and the behavior is totally different from the copper cables, as well as from regular inconel), ” the color of the alumina at 1300°C is white heat” ( stupidity, Alumina becomes white heat only when it melts at 2070°C and compare it to the glass is an elementary mistake), “the multiplication of voltage time amperage gives an amount of energy superior to the one declared” ( yes, but the control system continues to change the phase angle, and this wrong calculation has been made assuming that the values are always at the peak, and this is obviously wrong) and so on, with an innuendo that the Professors of the ITP are not able to connect a Wattmeter, to measure a Temperature, and insulting them: exactly like the Sancta Inquisitio, who wanted to burn alive Galileo, just because he was discovering something that was different from the consolidated and universally shared knowledge of the time. Your open letter is very intelligent.
    About ” The Cat is dead”: I am sorry for Dr Pomp, but the Cat is very healthy and on the verge of a commercial breakthrough, because to make him alive or dead is not the Sancta Inquisitio of Dr Pomp, but is the market. If the Customer makes profits with the E-Cat, the Cat is alive, otherwise he is not: I can assure the Cat is pretty healthy: makes many exercise, does not drink alcohol, does not get illegal drugs and somebody recently has experienced he could become a tiger, if necessary, now and again. I also would like to underline the fact that the Cat has never, anywhere, used a single cent of the Taxpayer.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  15. Henry Ethancourt

    Hello Mr. Rossi,

    Surfing on the web yesterday, this link came to my attention: it is an open letter to Dr Pomp:

    http://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/758-The-Pomp-factor-in-Cold-Fusion-an-open-letter-to-Stephan-Pomp

    Enjoy, :)

    Henry.

  16. Andrea Rossi

    Henry Ethancourt:
    Thank you for the information.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  17. Vessela Nikolova

    Hello Andrea, after about one year my book has come to an end. The publication is a matter of days… I wish you a nice day.
    Vessela

  18. Andrea Rossi

    Vessela Nikolova:
    Good luck!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  19. Gunnar Lindberg

    Dear Andra Rossi,
    The result of the third part evaluation is indeed very promising. From now, I´m sure, everything will happen fast.
    Can you confirm the rumor that Elforsk is buying one of your megawatt plants? This will undoubtedly speed up the certification of the domestic cats.
    Best regards
    Gunnar Lindberg

  20. Andrea Rossi

    Gunnar Lindberg:
    Thank you for your kind words.
    About rumors, as I always said, I strongly suggest not to take them seriously. Real information is given in due time and it is given first time, when it is due, on this Journal. Until you do not read an information on this Journal, regarding our activity, just disregard it. Whatever it is.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  21. Andrea Rossi

    Dear Ernie:
    Obviously you are right.
    Now, let’s go to make happy the Customer, aka let’s be able to make him earn money from the plant. If the Customer gets profits, the plant works well. If the Customer does not make money, the plant does not work well. With or without the contact with the inventor.
    Most of critics of the ITP report, as far as I could read, are of the genre that should they look at me and see me to walk upon the surface of a lake, they would say: ” Hey, look at that moron, at his age is not even able to swim”. Too much work to do: no more time to listen this blabla.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  22. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    I have read much discussion by critics about the role of the independent test in verifying your device. They claim since the test was not 100% independent because of your minimal involvement, the whole test was not admissible as evidence. First of all using their criteria for independence, it is not possible to create an independent test because they claim there must be no contact by the creator of the device. Of course if you cannot have interaction with the inventor, how can you duplicate the device? At least the inventor has to give instructions on how to assemble and operate the device. When a device is submitted to Underwriters Lab (UL) they provide only independent testers. This is what your test reported. The argument can only be about the credentials of the testers which are better in my opinion than most tests of this nature.
    Regards.

  23. Paul

    Andrea,

    Thomas McGuire and his team at Lockheed Martin’s Skunk Works have achieved a remarkable new magnetic configuration to contain a hot fusion reaction. They are still billions of investment dollars away from a practical solution to the worlds energy problems.

    http://aviationweek.com/technology/skunk-works-reveals-compact-fusion-reactor-details

    Paul

  24. Andrea Rossi

    Paul:
    Very interesting, thank you.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  25. Hi, Andrea.
    Please correct me if my memory is faulty. I seem to recall that you said in the past that the current investigating team was enlarged and that there were professors who were representing the USA, Europe and the far East. Please indicate which of the team represented the USA and the far East. All the authors seem to be from Europe. Thanks for all your dedicated E-CAT work and the time taken to answer peoples’ questions.

    Jean Pierre

  26. Andrea Rossi

    Jean Pierre:
    Yes, I have been told that other Professors, besides the ones that have signed the report and its Appendixes, have participated to the reviewing of the Report during its making and before the publication.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  27. Rafal Krych

    Dear Andrea,

    After looking at recent 3rd party report I’ve noticed that Hot E-Cat can keep high temperature like 1400 °C for long periods of time.
    It actually makes it a perfect candiate to replace burners used in Lime Kilns:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lime_kiln

    The limestone calcination process requires temperature below 1000 °C and consumes around 20kWh of electric power per tonne of lime. The coal fired lime kilns produce additonally 259 kg/t of CO2 and natural gas fired produce 206 kg/t of CO2. The Hot E-Cat might be in form of hollow pipe (similar to October 2011 model shown in Bologna) throuh which air is being pushed and heated. This air can be then used to heat limestone inside kiln. Lime kiln example, just imagine that burner is replaced with Hot E-Cat:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU4KNV1hRiQ
    Usage of Hot E-Cat here will cut both heating costs and carbon dioxide emissions drastically. Sounds like good business oportunity when you finally start introducing your technology to market.

    Regards
    Rafal

  28. Andrea Rossi

    Rafal Krych:
    Thank you for your suggestion,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  29. Dear Dr Rossi:

    You have industrial use certification for the E-Cat. My suggestion is to design and sell a 10 kilowatt industrial use only portable space heater. That would prove the technology works, provide you with a stream of income, and over time convince the certification agencies that it was also safe for home use. That would require only one E-Cat unit to be used and controlled, and the reactor would only be heating air with radiant reflectors and a simple fan mechanism. You could design the unit then get a preexisting factory somewhere to build them for you by the thousands.

    Just a thought.

    Best Regards, Christopher Calder

  30. Andrea Rossi

    Christopher Calder:
    It does not work that way. First, we need the safety certification, then we can sell the domestic units. We need several years of proper operation of the industrial application, then there will be the base for a certification protocol. it is true that our 1 MW plants have been put for sale in the late year 2012, but the first plant that has been sold to an industrial Customer and that can generate statistics for the certification is quite recent.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  31. Dear Andrea and JoNP Readers,
    in this apparently calm period after the ITPR I will use the occasion to mention some other consequences of the “electron mediated LENR hypothesis” I mentioned in my previous recent posts. Always in the hope that someone will comment/criticize/suggest.

    Ni64 is the Source of Copper 65
    The experimental results say that Ni64 is depleted by the LENR. I therefore gather that Ni64 has a magnetic moment (quadrupole or higher) that allows it to react and become Ni65. Ni65 then decays beta to Cu65 (with a half-life of 2.517 [h]):

    16: Ni64+e+p ->Ni65+neutrino+ (max) 5.15 [MeV]
    Ni65 ->Cu65 + e- + antineutrino + (max) 2.138[Mev]

    I think this is the origin of the isotope shift described in the Rossi-Focardi paper “A new energy source from nuclear fusion”. In that report the natural isotope ratio between Cu63 and Cu65, equal to 2.24, was found to have shifted to 1.16 in the ashes. I suggest that that shift was due to the addition of Cu65, in an amount exactly equal to the Ni64 that reacted.

    Decay of Ni69
    Ni69 is radioactive, with a half-life of 76,000 years, and decays almost exclusively via electron capture. The branching to positron emission is only 0,000037%. Therefore if this isotope remains in the charge only as traces it will not cause significant gamma radiation (for a 0.55 [g] Ni charge …). A problem remains in the fact the that the X ray emissions (in the range of a few [keV]) that follow the electron capture should have been measured.

    Lithium Isotopic Shift
    The LENR I propose for Lithium, differently from what happens for Nickel, lead to an enrichment in Li6 only because the two become He4 at different rates. This means that the total amount of Li should decrease together with the Li7/Li6 ratio.

    Reactions that Generate Power
    It is interesting to note this: if the main source of energy of the tested Hot-Cat were the isotopic shifts of Nickel and Lithium, the net power should have decreased during the test, simply because the amount of reactants decreased progressively (confirmed by the isotope analyses). Instead the net power production remained quite constant, and even grew during the last 4 days. This fact suggests that a progressively growing part of the energy of the test came from reactions that are different from the isotopic shifts. I think that these reactions are the reaction 1-4 of my first post on this.

    Andrea Calaon

  32. Joseph Fine

    Koen Vandewalle,

    Thanks again for shedding some light on this matter.

    Joseph Fine

  33. John Atkinson

    Mr. Rossi,
    I have followed your hard work and dedication for several years now. I believe it has been through the grace and shield of God you have been able to withstand the ridicule and slander thrown your way throughout the independent study process. I realize the commercial plant completion and assimilation is now your primary focus, and with Gods continued guidance will shine the light on the path you will follow.I have one question. For the next year, what new developments should we look forward to and or information given to us while the plant is being built and tested? Thank you you for all of your hard work and dedication.

  34. Andrea Rossi

    John Atkinson:
    Thank you for your kind words.
    Our R&D continues , focused upon the 1 MW plant, I am not able now to know which information will be given day by day, but now we are working exclusively on the commercial breakthrough and the theoretical problems regarding the results of the Report. Anyway: any information that will be fit to be given, will be given to our Readers. This answers also to many other Readers that have commented on the same topic.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  35. Koen Vandewalle

    Joseph Fine,

    “Let there be light”. There seems to be proof of that : http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/newsandeventspggrp/imperialcollege/newssummary/news_16-5-2014-15-32-44

    A little further in the abstract (of the previous experiment that you mentioned), after a lot of subsequent details, is written that there are created “two lights”.
    At that time, they had no blogs to fill yottabytes with, so there might be some confusion about how to understand this concept of “two lamps”.
    But officially, there is room for a second lamp, independent from the bright and hot one.

    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  36. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    In your internal testing, have you:

    a. Run an eCat reactor to fuel exhaustion?
    b. If yes, then what was the lifetime of the run?
    c. If yes, Did the thermal output begin to decrease as the fuel was consumed or did it remain constant and then suddenly decrease?
    d. Was the run what you expected based on your theory of operation — i.e., you got a certain amount of excess energy out and this corresponds to the fuel mass?

    I understand you may not want to release this information but this does not deal with the internal workings of the eCat so I think it is a fair question to ask.

  37. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    1- yes
    2- confidential
    3- confidential
    4- mostly yes
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  38. Italo R.

    Dear Dr. Rossi:
    assuming that on the beginning of the reaction the charge is formed with various components mixed homogeneously, and that during the reaction there are inhomogeneous variations within the charge. A sample taken at one point of the mixture is not representative of what has happened in the rest of the charge.
    Are we confident that the sample was taken significantly?
    After all, sampling is a science on its own.

    Kind Regards
    Italo R.

  39. Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.:
    We are working on all this issue in all the due directions. We are throughly studying the results and I am convinced that we should arrive to a reconciliation, taking in account all the results of the data regarding the heat excess, the Ragone diagram and the isotopical shift. Crossing all these data we are formulating a theory. No doubt about the increase of 62Ni, which we found many times, about the entity measured a strong work is in the making. Until this work is finished, I cannot comment on it. Many explications are under inspection.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  40. orsobubu

    Dear Andrea, I am very very happy with the results of your work. The same history of your life is a source of great inspiration for me. I think you will become a hero! The whole event is also taking funny implications: I’m reading about respected scientific commentators speculate that you spend your time studying how to install laser hidden in the ceiling, creating special compartments like a magician’s trick box where one thing goes in and a different one comes out, depending on how the box is manipulated, or by training several hours a day in manual dexterity for the replacement of dusts. Honestly, I think, since you’ve risked everything in this adventure, also those who publicly denigrate you should not get away with it, from the point of view of their reputation and their careers.

    Do you think that would be helpful, once business gets permanent drive and you have more permanent free time, and since you risk becoming *very* rich, set up some kind of foundation to take care, protect and help, even financially, who is placed at the edge of the scientific establishment because of personal interests, or still suffered ostracism which have compromised his future as it happened to you? to make a case that we know well, mr Guglinsky has repeatedly stated here that he could not go in court, for economic reasons, to defend his rights against clear cases of plagiarism. There are several associations dedicated to fighting those who deviate from recognized knowledge, should there be even a few that deal with certain fundamentalism in the opposite direction

    another thing. are you reconsidering the possibility that Guglinsky’s hypothesis – or other versions different than the standard model – can explain the test results better than yours?

    One last thing, again about lasers. I saw the photos of alumina prototype of the new e-Cat. As I assumed for a long time, it is eventually taking the shape of the sword handles of Star Wars Jedi knights. Now it is clear to me which is the real hidden goal of your work. Very good, I’m a fan too. Don’t you think that now it is time you slow down with the 1MW plant and accelerate with the sword?

  41. Andrea Rossi

    Orsobubu:
    Welcome back.
    Since the set up of the test has been totally made by the Professors of the ITP, the assumptions and the innuendos of the usual imbeciles are just insults to the integrity of 6 Professors whose entire lifes give paramount evidence of their honesty and of their knowledge in the field of Physics. For this reason such assumptions, as you correctly mean, does not merit to be taken in any consideration.
    Said this, I totally adhere to the Standard Model, with all respect for the sincere anf honest work of Wladimir Guglinski, albeit I am perfectly conscious of the fact that theories are made to be overcame. Not bad your idea of a fund to defend the mavericks.
    The 1 MW plant in the factory of the Customer should be the first stone of the commercial breakthrough, and a commercial breakthrough resolves all the discussions. The 1 MW plants are for sale since 2012, now, for the first time, we have the possibility in the USA to control the operation of our plants in a factory where they are applied to an industrial production and not in a situation of internal tests .
    In the late seventies the “experts” used to say that the idea to produce computers for “housewifes” was ridiculous and technologically impossible.
    Whatever they are saying now is totally insignificant, as well as what they said in the past.
    The Sword will annichilate them.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  42. orsobubu

    This is only a test to see if the nasty robot keeps on spamming me

  43. Andrea Rossi

    Orsobubu:
    I take advantage to this comment of yours to inform that we have restricted the filter of the robot, due to attacks we received. I can assure you I have not spammed any comment of yours. When a Reader does not find published a comment, in most of cases is because there is contained a link that is taken as advertising. Please signal it, sending an email to
    info@journal-of-nuclear-physics.com
    with the text of the comment spammed.
    We will see what we can do
    As a matter of fact, dear Orsobubu, I was buffled by the fact that it was time you didn’t comment here. I was in permanent waiting.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  44. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    No offense taken. But I could not resist pouncing *like a Cat on a Mouse” on a possible Rossi revelation… (LOL)

    Seriously — I hope you are able, from time-to-time, to provide a few nuggets of eCat truth, theory and practice our way. We Thirst for your knowledge..

  45. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Few nuggets? In the Report of the ITP you got a Niagara Falls of nuggets!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  46. Paul

    Andrea,

    Will you ever be able to release the video of the hot-cat from the 2013 tests that lost control and melted down?

    I think that was to-date your smallest 1 MW reactor.

    Paul

  47. Andrea Rossi

    Paul:
    We cannot release videos related to our internal R&D.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  48. Hello Dr. Rossi,
    So much has occurred since our last correspondence. Firstly, congratulations on the recently published test results! They have certainly created more positive interest in your technology.
    My question refers to the plant in Ferrara, Italy that was heated prior to 2009 by what must be the Grandmother of E-Cats. Is this boiler still in operation? I realize that I am still encouraging your previous efforts to create an affordable home style unit. At present, it seems that you and partners are occupied primarily with the larger energy generation projects. Thanks for your reply. I wish you continued success!
    Best regards,
    Gerard Cruz-Molina
    Brooklyn, NYC

  49. Andrea Rossi

    Gerard Cruz:
    Thank you for your kind comment.
    The domestic line is still under R&D and enormous amount of experience and designs, manufacturing projects have been made for it. It will take time, though, to get the necessary safety certification; for this several years of operation of the indistrial E-Cats will be necessary.
    The factory of Ferrara has been closed and all the stuff has been transferred in the USA.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  50. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    You posted “When it produces 62Ni…” So from this I assume you mean that the reaction actually changes something (e.g., other nickel isotopes) into 62Ni, as opposed to devouring the other nickel isotopes and leaving 62Ni untouched?

  51. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Ha,ha,ha,ha…Steve, I was just joking!
    Obviously, you are too intelligent not to understand that I am not laughing AT you, but WITH you.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  52. Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi, Koen Vandewalle,

    Andrea is 4 years younger than I am. Despite his youth, he knows much more about Physics and E-Cats than I do.

    My cat, Nina, sends regards to both of you.

    Joseph Fine

  53. Joseph Fine

    Koen Vandewalle,

    Based on the previous experiment, first I would have to say:

    “Let there be light!” (Or FIAT LUX)

    All the rest are details.

    Joseph Fine

  54. Andrea Rossi

    Gherardo:
    Nice, thank you,
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  55. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I know you cannot discuss what occurs inside the eCat reactor but will an operator hear any sound from the eCat during normal operation? Some devices have a pitch that operators know by experience whether the device is operating correctly. Does the eCat reactor “sing”?

  56. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Of course the E-Cat sings! When everything goes well, full power, he sings “Twist and Shout”, when things go not too well he sings ” Please don’t cry loving me”. When it produces 62Ni he emits dodecaphonic notes ( not easy to reconcile).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  57. Alessandro Coppi

    Hi Andrea, you should say soon that E-CAT doesn’t work at all, because the prices of the Brent and WTI are dropping silently, and many rich guys will lose a lot of money around the world.
    Great days we are going to live!

    :-)

    Grazie
    Alessandro Coppi

  58. Andrea Rossi

    Alessandro Coppi:
    He,he,he…
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  59. Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Professor Joseph Fine,

    Most of the time you very precisely comment on topic, besides some joke or a teaser to make us read on some very interesting subjects. Remember I suspected you of really being an alias of Andrea Rossi. I think he likes your comments, but maybe he might consider you a pain in the head.

    Having a teacher like you, would make me want to become a nuclear scientist.
    But what happened yesterday is very uncomprehensive to me.

    Suppose, for once, that you have to create a universe. How would you begin ? For now and for the simplicity you can omit side-effects as organic life. Just to create some matter.

    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  60. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    So, Prof. Joseph Fine: are you an alias of Andrea Rossi? I never knew, but you never know…
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  61. Giovanni Guerrini

    Dear Mr Rossi,
    in these 3-4 years I have seen a strange phenomenon.
    There are some people (and in some groups a lot of people)who,when I speak about this concrete chance to make better this world for all,oppose without know what I am speaking about.
    They don’t want listen and seems to me that they have fear.
    So I have asked to myself: why fear?!
    I don’t know,but I have a hypothesis.
    It could be that these people feel good because they are in a position better than a lot of other people and they have fear to lose their comparative privilege.
    So they become clowns who follow,unawares,their instict of “homo homini lupus” and “mors tua vita mea”.
    I hope my hypothesis is wrong,because it would be very sad.
    Culturally today the idea that “I have ergo sum” is still strong and I think that a thecnology that give more well being to all will be a great gift also for these people because they will be forced to evolve.
    But I hope my hypothesis is wrong.

    Regards G G

  62. Andrea Rossi

    Giovanni Guerrini:
    I think you are right, but nobody can stop a commercial breakthrough. This is why we have now to focus excusively on our 1MW plant and the related R&D and nothing else.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  63. Andrea Rossi

    To the Readers:
    One of the few clowneries around, regarding the Report, on some blog, merits a comment, just to put in evidence the total lack of “bona fides” of the usual persons:
    1- ” The clamps of the electric power have been inverted”: obviously it is a false innuendo. The clamps have never been inverted.
    2- ” The resistances of the dummy were different from the resistences of the Hot Cat”: obviously it is false, because there was not a dummy and a Hot Cat, the same Hot Cat has been measured without charge ( and in this status has been defined “dummy”) and with charge ( and in this status has been defined “Hot Cat”); the behavior of the resistances, as I explained already, changes and is not linear, because it interacts with the reactor and the reactions. I cannot give more information about this particular, for obvious reasons.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  64. Curbina

    Dear Mr. Rossi:

    I haven’t asked anything here in a long time (last time was around 2012), but I’m curious of one thing that I haven’t seen yet asked to you after the release of the report: In your opinion the results were Positive or Negative? (For me they were very positive, but I’m more interested in your perspective, of course, the results, as you also announced a few days before the release of the report, are tremendously important).

  65. Andrea Rossi

    Curbina:
    Positive. Important. Problematic under a theoretical point of view, and we are working on this.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  66. Andrea Rossi

    Dear Readers:
    I am receiving a snowball of comments, in any form and with the most creative excuses, to get more information regarding the reactor tested by the ITP: questions regarding charge,powders, alumina, resistances, photographies, cables, you name it, you got it. For me it is not a pleasure to spam all of them. For this reason, please take notice of the fact that I cannot give any more information about the reactor in positive or in negative. I cannot, as well, give any information, so far, regarding the R&D and the theoretical study started from the publication of the Report.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  67. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    Have you ever placed one of your filled Alumina tubes without any external connections on alumina blocks inside a microwave oven and observed the tube with an IR camera while irradiating it with the microwaves? Might be an interesting easy to do test.
    Regards.

  68. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    I cannot give information about our R&D.
    Thank you for your kind attention,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  69. Yona

    Dear andrea Rossi. Now after the successful report, when it will be possible for visitors to come to see the 1mw plant ( as you said) ? Thanks and good luck

  70. Andrea Rossi

    Yona:
    The visitors will be accepted to visit the plant after the period of perfectionment of the set up. You know plants problems ( I know who you are) and you know perfectly well that a complex like this needs up to 1 year to go through all the problems that come out by the day, when you put at work a new technology in operation for a production process that implies 24 hour per day of labour of the plant, 350 days per year.
    Thank you for your distinguished attention.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  71. Andrea Rossi

    Dr :
    Unfortunately, we HAVE TO climb the Everest !
    We are studying throughly the results and some light is beginning to be turned on.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  72. Joseph Fine

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I apologize for writing relativistic ‘photons’ as all photons travel at the speed of light. I meant there could be a gravitational red-shift operating on the gamma rays (due to the mass of the nucleus) and if the gammas were close enough, under the proper conditions they would bend and lose energy (be red-shifted or increase wavelength) to the lattice.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound%E2%80%93Rebka_experiment

    I’d prefer climbing the Appalachians. It’s much warmer and there’s more air to breathe.

    Thank you,

    Joseph Fine

  73. Andrew

    Andrea Rossi,
    How do you comment the fact that after thousand of tests you find out just now a such massive isotopical shift in Ni? Does this result somehow relates to the way the Cat was operated (Not Self sustained mode)?
    Beasides, are you aware of the value of the waste products that comes out of the Cat?
    If I am not wrong 1 milligram of Ni 62 at that purity (over 99%) can cost over 1000$.
    Seems you have in your hard a technology whose worthiness goes a lot beyond heat production.
    Always wishing best luck
    Andrew

  74. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    I am studying the results of the test to reconcile the isotopical shifts.
    I am doing this with a nuclear physicist well known and expert of the matter and stronger than me in advanced mathematics. Perhaps we are approaching the beginning of a percourse to a reconciliation, remaining in the standard model, therefore avoiding dangerous exotic temptations. We want to find at any cost the solution. It is hard, it is not like climbing the Appalachian Mountains, but even the Everest has been climbed, at last. Just working.
    Lavolale, lavolale!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  75. Hank Mills

    Hello Everyone,

    A new article on PESN has been posted about how Dr. Brian Ahern, a scientist and long time LENR researcher, has changed his opinion about the paper documenting the month long test of a high temperature E-Cat. Initially, he indicated that he believed no excess heat had been produced. Such a statement aligns with his previous skeptical comments about the technology. But after consulting with an expert in IR measurements – who declared the cameras and methodologies used during the test were correct and the same as he would have chosen – his doubts were resolved. He now feels the results are accurate. Please read the full article at:

    http://pesn.com/2014/10/13/9602546_Hell-Freezes-Over–Brian-Aherns_Doubts_on_E-Cat_Test_Resolved/

    Perhaps he will be one of many previously skeptical individuals to recognize the truth that the E-Cat works.

  76. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    Dr Brian Ahern is a sincere and honest scientist. He says what he sincerely thinks to be right. Sometimes with excess of nerve, but I prefer go to the core of problems, ignoring the form outside.
    Speaking of things that count, and not of the useless blabla, the work made by Ahern with nickel and hydrogen is smart, as I already said in the period during which we got not very tender words from him. I confirm my opinion that he will be probably the first one to arrive to an industrial product after us. His publication has been very convincing for us.
    Thank you for the kind information.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  77. Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi,

    http://lenr.qumbu.com/web_hotcat2_pics/141011_ragone_20.png

    If you divide the Energy Density of each dot (W-h/Kg) on the Ragone Plot by the corresponding Power Density (W/Kg), the result is the duration (in hours) of the test.

    The March 2014 E-Cat ran for (1.6/2.1)*1000 hours = 31.75 days while the Pu-238 system Energy and Power Densities appear to be based on projected operation of ( 9.7*10^9/500) hours or 2,215 years!

    The advantage in using the Pu-238 system seems limited if the user must wait over 2,000 years to get almost the same Energy Density as an E-Cat that operates for 6 months! Plus there are the Radiation concerns for any Pu-238 system.

    ( 6 * 1.6*10^9 = 9.6 * 10^9 W-h/Kg )

    How do you keep (most) Gammas in the nuclei? While staying within Standard Physics?

    (It seems to be a good question.)

    The following ‘crazy’ thought popped up (in a dream, as usual) that, at the femto-meter level, relativistic photons (when created in the nuclei) are extremely close to several femto-scale event horizons (tiny black holes) and rapidly lose energy to the lattice.

    I apologize for offending anyone with this crazy comment, but “is it crazy enough to be true”?

    (You don’t have to answer, but I have to ask.)

    Relativistic regards,

    Joseph Fine

  78. I’m sure that the governments and other energy hoarders are quaking in their boots.

    I admit that China is a good place to start, but their government is as vulnerable to change as those with conventional energy supplies.

  79. Andrea Rossi

    Charlie Sutherland:
    I am not involved in commercial issues.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  80. Bill Conley

    Andrea Rossi,

    First I’m am a big supporter of you and the eCat and often defend you both against skeptics/trolls on various blogs. I also accept the results of the test as true and accurate.

    The last test was an opportunity to for the test team to answer many of the criticisms that were leveled at the first test. Two majors issues were that the first test took place on your premises and in your presence. This time the tests were wisely moved to an independent facility and the expectation is that you would not be present either.

    Then we find out that you “intervened” (page 7) at several important points in the process. Why was this necessary when all must have known that this would just be ammunition for your critics to cry foul and fraud. I do not understand why you were even there to feed this narrative. I think it would have been much wiser to not even have set foot in the facility and allowed these courageous professors to claim complete independence. Now you cast an unnecessary shadow over the event.

    Best wishes going forward. I hope that the demonstration of the commercial plant comes soon.

  81. Andrea Rossi

    Bill Conley:
    My presence has been clearly explained in the Report, as well as its limitations. The necessity of technical assistance in case of breakages is obvious. I am the sole guy that could repair any breakage. Luckily, no breakage happened. The commercial plant is not going to make a demonstration, it has to make a profitable work for the Customer who pays for it.
    Thank you for your kind attention,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  82. Gian Luca

    Dear A.R.
    while we are talking about the discovery of the millennium (after the wheel) oilprice.com publish this article, but does not mention or LENR E-CAT. Meanwhile, oil continues its descent toward $ 80 a barrel
    http://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Nuclear-Power/Is-Fusion-Power-Closer-Than-We-Thought.html
    Ad Majora…..

    Gian Luca

  83. Andrea Rossi

    Gian Luca:
    Thank you for the info. About the talking: I take notice of the fact that our opponents are again trying to use my past to assassinate my character
    ( http://www.ingandrearossi.com)
    This gives evidence of the validity of my work, if after 5 years they still need to use that as an argument.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  84. Dear Andrea Rossi,

    FYI

    Brian Josephson (awarded for the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1973) comment at Nature.com

    —————————————
    The most important news of the year, perhaps, not just the last seven days? The results of a new investigation into the Rossi reactor (allegedly a high-power cold fusion reactor), involving running the reactor over a 32-day period, are now out. The report not only confirms output power far in excess of anything possible by chemical reaction, but also gives a clear indication that a nuclear reaction is occurring, on the basis of a substantial change in the isotopic proportions of Li and Ni over the period of the run. The report, entitled Observation of abundant heat production from a reactor device and of isotopic changes in the fuel may be seen at http://www.sifferkoll.se/siffe….

    As before, I predict that pigs will fly before Nature makes any mention of the report, which has also been put on hold by the physics preprint archive arxiv.org (with an earlier report, a leaked email disclosed that the moderators were trying hard to find a reason to block the report but eventually gave in).

    Brian Josephson
    —————————————

    http://www.nature.com/news/seven-days-3-9-october-2014-1.16087#comment-1626001865

    Best Regards
    Felix Rends
    Germany

  85. Andrea Rossi

    Felix Rends:
    I thank you very much for your comment, that I think is important for the following reasons:
    1- Brian Josephson is a Nobel Prize laureate ( one of the youngest Nobel Prize awarded of the History)
    2- Because his article has been written on Nature, even if its blog
    Well, this is a very beautiful moment.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  86. silvio caggia

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    The ITPR says that your e-cat was able to produce 1 gram of Nickel 62 isotope with a purity of 99,3%. Do you have any idea of the commercial value of such high refined material?
    You have not to recycle e-cat ashes, you have to sell them! :-)

  87. Andrea Rossi

    Henry Ethancourt:
    Thank you for the information,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  88. alex

    Dear Ing. Rossi,

    In your reply to Daniel G.Zavela you wrote:

    “..it is the milestone that signals the first commercial product based on LENR ..in the free market. The success of this plant goes beyond anything else, and nothing will take a single hour of my work but it from now through the end of 2015″. Does this mean that you are targeting roll out of commercial e-car or hot-cat, or domestic e-cat, for early 2016?

    God be with you.

  89. Andrea Rossi

    Alex:
    What I answered to Daniel G. Zavela means that I will not accept any engagement of any sort until the 1 MW plant supplied to the Customer will be totally and definitely running in a regular, easy operation, without trouble making of any sort.
    About the domestic application, I already explained.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  90. Neri B.

    Dear Andrea,
    Congratulations your results are really stunning…I think I have been staring at the table of isotopic change for some hours having no words …
    I have one question if you can answer: when you say 1 MW plant you still refer to THERMAL power or ELECTRIC power?
    Thank you on behalf of mankind
    Neri B.

  91. Andrea Rossi

    Neri B.:
    Thermal
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  92. Koen Vandewalle

    Overnight re-reading of the report makes me consider the following:

    This does not need publiciation in a scientific journal. The output/input measurement is plain vanilla up-to-date thermodynamics analysis, executed on a very professional way with perfect scientific approach.

    This document fits in courses and professional litterature -and why not in advertising for industrial measurement technics- that should be studied by every technical university student and technical professional involved with heat-related issues.
    These are the guys that will offer, sell, install and service the final devices. If they “buy it”, their employers will buy it.

    Sorry for posting and commenting too much. But this excellent, well written report, full of facts and proof deserves better than “opinion-by-reference-authority”-approach.

    Koen

  93. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    Thank you for your opinion,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  94. Dear eernie1,
    thank you for answering me directly. I feel honored by your attention.
    I agree with the need for something out of the box. It depends how far out.
    Let alone my theoretical rumbling speeches, the “theory” I am proposing fortunately arrives at some falsifiable statements.
    Here a few of them:
    Physics (the electron coupling and the collapse):
    Some electromagnetic frequencies in the [kHz] range should be able to change the reaction rate. This because they should stimulate/interfere in the coupling between the p/d/t and the electron. Specifically I estimate (but this a very rough estimation) that one frequency should be equal to the p/e mass ratio 1,836. … [Hz].
    The irradiation of the charge with gamma rays of frequencies just above 141 [keV] and 4.17[MeV] should activate the production of neutrons. If my estimation of the mass of the beta decaying H4 is wrong these frequencies should be changed accordingly.
    The d-e attraction should be less intense than the t-e attraction. Together with reaction 4, this means that any tritium added to an hydrogen loaded charge should gradually be consumed by the LENR. The E-Cat and the Hot-Cat in fact seem not to accumulate tritium, despite hydrogen loading (see Edmund Storms’ comments …).
    The presence of a strong magnetic field should enhance the reaction rate. The radiation that escapes the charge should have an angular distribution that follows the magnetic field. In particular there should be two different sets of frequencies coming out parallel and perpendicular to the magnetic field. Those parallel are due to the approaching phase of the nucleons to the electron and are “dipolar”. Those perpendicular should be due to the “cyclotron” emission of the nuclei once captured “inside” the electron Zitterbewegung (if any).
    Chemistry (before the coupling):
    Stimulating the charge with photons that enhance the movement of vacancies, the reaction rate should raise.
    The size of the active metal clusters should be in the 3-12 nanometer range. Outside the reaction rate should be very low.
    There should be a correlation between the number of hydrogen (p/d/t 2) molecules formed and the amount of energy produced (some of the approaches do not lead to the electron coupling and to the collapse, but to the formation of molecules inside newly formed vacancies).

    Best regards

    Andrea Calaon

  95. atlantis71

    Dear dr. Rossi,
    this is the link of the article on the strategic impacts of breakthrough energy technologies that I mentioned to you by email a couple of months ago.
    http://www.sicurezzanazionale.gov.it/sisr.nsf/approfondimenti/strategic-impacts-of-breakthrough-energy-technologies.html
    All the best
    D.R.

  96. I finally got my video up from my interview on Coast to Coast AM about the E-Cat test results.

    Sterling Allan on Coast to Coast AM about E-Cat breakthrough – On October 9, George Noory interviewed me about Andrea Rossi’s third-party test.

  97. eernie1

    Dear Andrea Calaon,
    In my experience,when a situation or result lies out of the box of standard theory you must look for an out of the box solution. At this stage of the game with an incomplete ash analysis,your theory is as good as anyone else can come up with within reasonable boundaries. I think we require more information but the last report of ash content if correct, may point us in the right direction

  98. Dear Dr. Rossi,

    With apologies to Christopher Columbus, please remind your critics that the Earth is indeed flat and that if you travel far enough, you will fall off the edge.
    I know the truth of what you have achieved as Dr. Patterson had success in 1995 producing 400% excess power using a corrugated nickel base and when he substituted a smooth nickel base, the reaction would not work. Dr. George Miley analyzed and found transmutation of elements in the Patterson Power Cells(tm). I have a copy of an independent laboratory report proving transmutations from a cell that vaporized at 3000 degrees C.

    Sterling Allan feels it will take 5 years more time to commercialize your ECat. Do you believe production might happen sooner?

    Wishing you the best of luck.

    Best Regards,

    Daniel G. Zavela

  99. Andrea Rossi

    Daniel G.Zavela:
    As a matter of fact, we already have a plant of 1 MW made for a Customer. For all the next 12-14 months my only and sole focus will be on it: it is the milestone that signals the first commercial product based on LENR ( or QUAR, as my friend Renato Estri likes to say) in the free market.
    The success of this plant goes beyond anything else, and nothing will take a single hour of my work but it from now through the end of 2015. Also my activity of R&D will be focused on it. All my great team is focused on it.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  100. Dave K

    Dear Mr. Rossi,
    In mercatu veritas! There seems no longer a reason for your customer (or IH) to not allow the E-cat to be put on display, if not to the public, then at least to some group of business, government, or scientific leaders. Even if there remain some technical difficulties, the customer would be seen for its business acumen, technical savvy, and environmental awareness, and it would surely improve a beleaguered stock price. If the customer is not willing to allow this, IH should put it on display themselves, or they should establish a second customer who will! Do you not think so?

  101. Andrea Rossi

    Dave K:
    Selected visitors will be allowed to the 1 MW plant, in future.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  102. Curiosone

    Dr Rossi,
    I do not know if you can answer to this question, if not please spam it.
    Does the Hot Cat like the one tested by the Independent Third Party have two separated charges, one for the Mouse and one for the Cat ?
    W.G.

  103. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    No, the charge is the same, we have only one charge in that kind of reactor; by the way: if the ssm is not adopted, the distinction between Cat and Mouse vanishes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  104. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    I want to admit that I just discovered that I asked you a needless, redundant question earlier today. After reading the report yet again I found the answer. I aoologize, and I now know why you spammed my comment.

    I deserved it. I’ll re-read the report again.

    Thank you.

    Hank

  105. Andrea Rossi

    Dear Hank Mills:
    Thank you. This report is very deep. The more you read it, the more you get from it. It comes from the experience of Professors that have dedicated all their life to Nuclear Physics and that accepted not to be biased against the possibility of LENR, albeit these could pose gaps of reconciliation with the classic models. They also had the courage to be honest and sincere: it would have much more easy for them to follow the wave and dismiss LENR as impossible and so be it.
    This Report a mine also for me, like the book of Norman Cook.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  106. Thank you, Andrea, for your wonderfully entertaining reply which started:

    “Andrea Rossi
    October 10th, 2014 at 3:05 PM
    TO THE READERS:
    I have been informed right now that on a blog a person whose nickname is Raman has said a curious thing I want to deal with because is a paradigmatic example of fake professionality used to perpetrate an agenda.”

    It brought a huge smile to my face!

    Thanks also to Hank Mills for his quote from Jonathan Swift!

    Rodney Nicholson.

  107. Andrea Rossi

    Rodney Nicholson:
    Usually I ignore stupid comments, but sometimes I get nervous.
    Sorry.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  108. Andrea Rossi

    Herb Gills:
    We are studying the results. It will take time.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  109. Herb Gillis

    Dr. Rossi:
    According to the most recent 3rd party report a number of elements that were in the fuel material seem to have disappeared from the ash, or were radically lower in concentration in the ash. These were Al, Fe, C, Ca, Cl, Mg, and Mn. Apparently no data given on isotopic composition (changes) in these elements. Do you find any of these changes surprising? Do you think these changes were due to simple chemical segregation within the fuel during burning- – or perhaps something else?
    Kind regards; HRG.

  110. Curiosone

    Dear Dr Rossi:
    Which is the official site where the report is deposited?
    Thank you,
    W.G.

  111. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    The site where the Report of the Independent Third Party has been put and where the Professors will make all the updatings is:

    http://www.elforsk.se/LENR-matrapport-publicerad

    Some minor corrections already have been made.

    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  112. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    I know that the professors did not run the device in self sustained mode(no activating input)because they feared a runaway mode may occur. After they finished their testing regime did they try to run it in self sustaining configuration? In the self sustaining mode, COP is meaningless because dividing by 0 gives you infinity. My other question is, have you or are you running your tests in self sustaining mode and if you are, can the device be controlled?
    Successful regards.

  113. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    The Prof did not use the ssm mode. We did in our factory, but the data of our R&D are restricted, so far.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  114. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Since The Report shows a dramatic isotopic RATIO shift, I believe there are two possibilities:

    1. That the isotopes showing a decrease were “consumed” in the exothermic reaction.
    2. That the isotope with the large increase was somehow created during the reaction.
    3. both of the above occurred.

    For lithium – I do not know of a way to shift 7Li to 6Li, so I assume this was a reduction in the 7Li population that caused the 6Li relative population to dramatically increase. So this might be a case of the 7Li being converted to helium?

    For the nickel – I would assume the lower numbered nickel isotopes were altered and eventually became the dominant nickel isotope. But we did not see a production of copper. Somehow, the reaction stopped at 62Ni isotope.

    Comments?

  115. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    We are studying.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  116. H-G Branzell

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    H-G BRANZELL:
    PLEASE FIND MY ANSWERS ALONG THE TEXT: MY ANSWERS ARE RECOGNIZABLE BECAUSE WRITTEN IN CAPITAL LETTERS, INSERTED IN THE TEXT TO MAKE EASIER TO UNDERSTAND THE ANSWER TO ANY SINGLE POINT MADE BY THESE SCIENTISTS. I RESPECT THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT AN AGENDA, BUT FIGHT FOR WHAT THEY ARE SINCERELY CONVINCED OF.

    Not very positive for the Dogbone Cat —

    IT IS NORMAL AND EXPECTED

    http://www.nyteknik.se/asikter/debatt/article3854985.ece, google Translate:

    Elforsk AB is the Swedish electricity company research and development company. Thus, Elforsk a heavy role and a responsibility to conduct the important research on the current and future energy supply in a way that is both responsible and relying on good science and critical thinking.

    MOST OF ALL, I WOULD SAY, ON EXPERIMENTS THAT REALLY MAKE PRODUCTS THAT WORK: ELFORSK DOES NOT PRODUCE THEORIES, BUT ENERGY.

    On NyTekniks debate page on 9/10 states now Magnus Olofsson, CEO of Elforsk, it’s time for Elforsk to proceed with research on so-called Low Energy Nuclear Reactions (LENR), and this is largely because of the “amazing results” that is now being published in a report written by researchers from Uppsala University. We find it surprising that just hours after the report is released, without waiting or asking for more critical comments on the reported material, is prepared to launch an entirely new area of ​​research.

    We note that the new measurements have been carried out in southern Switzerland and that funding for the report comes from Elforsk, and that three of the authors are retired, formerly employed at Uppsala University. But as far as we know, this report has otherwise no connection to Uppsala University, financially or operationally.

    LET’S BE PRECISE:
    THE FUNDS DID NOT ARRIVE ONLY FROM ELFORSK; THE LIST OF FUNDINGS IS REPORTED AT THE END OF THE REPORT; AND NOWHERE HAS BEEN WRITTEN THAT ANY FUNDING CAME FROM THE UPPSALA UNIVERSITY

    Perhaps the most interesting thing about the E-Cat deal, which now has rolled in blogs and the media since 2011, it is perhaps that it is still “alive” and question why anyone still believes in it. Periodically test new variants of the E-Caterpillar and criticisms of tests of previous E-Cat variants are never to be and answered. Instead investigated now even a new variant of “energy catalyst” and even more amazing results presented.

    ALL THE QUESTIONS, TO WHICH WAS POSSIBLE TO ANSWER, THAT HAVE BEEN PUT AFTER THE FORMER TESTS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED TO; NEW TESTS HAVE FOLLOWED SUIT THE EVOLUTION OF THE WORK

    We agree that what is reported is amazing. But we believe that it is surprising is that the authors and Elforsk are so naive that they uncritically swallow something that would set the entire nuclear physics on its head; in a gram of “fuel”, consisting mainly of nickel, the proportion of the isotope Ni-62 in the “fuel” through some type of nuclear processes have increased from 4 percent to 99 percent. And this without any radiation emitted, either during operation or in the resulting “ash”. An equally spectacular nuclear transformation must have been of a proportion of lithium in the fuel powder. This goes against all the accumulated nuclear physics knowledge collected over the last 100 years. But rather than rewrite the textbooks, we believe that you first have to thoroughly investigate if there are other, simpler explanations.

    I AGREE ON THE FACT THAT THE RESULTS ARE DIFFICULT TO RECONCILE, AND WE ARE STUDYING ON THIS. IF WHAT HAPPENED WITH LITHIUM SUITES IN PART OUR EXPECTATIONS, FOR NICKEL WE HAVE DIFFICULTIES TO RECONCILE. CLEARLY, THERE IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE UNDERSTOOD.

    THESE SCIENTISTS FORGET THAT IT HAS BEEN MEASURED AN EXCESS OF ENERGY NOT RECONCILIABLE WITH ANY CHEMICAL REACTION. THIS TOO CONTRASTS WITH 100 YEARS OF FORMER EXPERIENCE. RELATIVITY CONTRASTED WITH 500 YEARS OF FORMER EXPERIENCE. GALILEO RISKED TO BE BURNT ALIVE BECAUSE CONTRASTED 3 000 YEARS (OR MORE) OF FORMER CONSOLIDATED SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE.
    SUCH AN EXCESS OF ENERGY, MEASURED IN A LONG PERIOD ( MORE THAN 1 000 HOURS STRAIGHT) NEEDS AN EXPLICATION TOO, THAT DOES NOT RECONCILE WITH ANY CHEMICAL REACTION.

    For apparently thinking Elforsk not seriously if researchers simply may have been deceived by an inventor proposals. The drastic isotope enrichments that should have been accomplished during the operation of the E-Cat can be quickly purchased from several different companies. The inventor Rossi has what we can understand of the report dealt with the fuel itself both in terms of replenishment and withdrawal.

    THIS IS REALLY FUNNY: SHOULD I HAVE TEMPERED THE SAMPLES, I WOULD HAVE MADE IT TO MAKE RECONCILING POSSIBLE, OR AT LEAST CLOSE TO LIKELY ! THESE SCIENTISTS ASSUME THAT I SUICIDE MYSELF MAKING ARTIFICIALLY A NOT RECONCULABLE CHARGE!
    BESIDES: IN THE REPORT IS WRITTEN THAT THE SAMPLES HAVE BEEN TAKEN BY THE COMMETTEE.

    Already in 2011 there were two very professionally conducted fuel analyzes at the Natural History Museum.

    THIS IS MORE FUNNY: THESE SCIENTISTS DEFINE VERY PROFESSIONALLY CONDUCTED AN ANALYSIS MADE UPON A SAMPLE SUPPLIED BY ME, AND DO NOT, BY LOGICAL DEDUCTION, CONSIDER PROFESSIONALLY CONDUCTED ANALYSIS MADE UPON SAMPLES INSERTED AND EXTRACTED BY A THIRD PARTY

    The result of this time showed that the nickel contained in both the “fuel” and “ash” had the natural distribution of isotopes of nickel, that is, no isotope change of nickel which could be observed. It then alleged reaction product of copper occurred additionally in separate flakes of “ashes”, not mixed in nickel flakes which should have been the case if nuclear transformations occurred. Therefore, one can suspect that Rossi did not hesitate to provide the testing with researchers manipulated the material. Without a rigorous and documented inspection, one can not draw any conclusions regarding Ecatens function based on the fuel analyzes presented.

    AS THESE SCIENTISTS CORRECTLY SAY, I SUPPLIED THOSE SAMPLES, IN 2011 (TO PROF. SVEN KULLANDER), AND I GAVE A SAMPLE FROM WHICH THE COMPONENTS, THAT AT THOSE TIMES WERE NOT DISCLOSABLE, HAD BEEN EXTRACTED, BECAUSE NOT YET PATENTED. I CLEARLY WARNED PROF. KULLANDER OF THAT. SO WE ALL KNEW THAT THOSE ANALYSIS COULD NOT BE TAKEN AS COMPLETE, BUT JUST AS A FIRST APPROACH TO THE PROBLEM. THE COPPER FOUND WAS PROBABLY AN IMPURITY AND I MADE CLEAR THIS SUSPECT OF MINE . IN THAT CASE THE SAMPLE HAD NOT BEEN WITHDRAWN FROM A REACTOR BY A THIRD PARTY AND I HAVE NO DIFFICULTY TO SAY, AS I DID WHEN I DELIVERED IT, THAT I HAD TAKEN OFF FROM IT THE PARTS THAT I WANTED NOT TO DISCLOSE.

    ANDREA ROSSI

    Stephan Pomp, Professor, Uppsala University
    Göran Ericsson, Professor, Uppsala University
    Peter Ekström, Professor Emeritus, University of Lund
    Ane Håkansson, Professor, Uppsala University

  117. Andrea Rossi

    H-G Branzell:
    Please find my answers inside the text of your comment, to make easy the reading. My answers are in capital letters, to make clear the distinction between what they wrote and what I answered.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  118. Andreas Moraitis

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    After the release of the test – which will hopefully be followed by a publication in a peer reviewed journal – scientists around the world might wish to reproduce the “Rossi effect” in their laboratories. Do you see a possibility that you, without disclosing any critical information, propose some of them an experiment that would allow a reliable replication? I’m thinking of a setup that produces a COP that is greater than 1, but anyway not high enough for commercial applications.
    From the viewpoint of an entrepreneur there would be no reason for you to do that, but as a scientist you might be open for this idea. By the way, don’t forget that well-known city in Sweden…

    Best regards,
    Andreas Moraitis

  119. Andrea Rossi

    Andreas Moraitis:
    For the next year we will be exclusively focused on the operation of the 1 MW plant supplied to our Customer and on the R&D applied to it. This commercial breakthrough is the sole logic next step and we want not to be distracted from this purpose.
    Obviously I will personally continue to study on the results of the Report, because at this point I ned to reconcile the theoretical bases. Theoretical discussions will go ahead for years, though.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  120. Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Andrea,
    The more I read and re-think all that has been said and written, the more I get convinced that this “test” is no more than the warming-up, the preparation, the stabilisation of the reactor.
    This is really a miracle device. A gift of God.
    I understand your modest and humble attitude, many of our great inventors in history had that, but I am not sure it is in place. The world is in big trouble, and this invention gives a possible outcome.
    Thank You very much Andrea Rossi,
    Best Regards,
    Koen

  121. gian

    Michael Nelson, Alternate Discipline Leader for SLS Propulsion at NASA’s Propulsion Research and Development Laboratory, notes, “I was impressed with the work that was done to insure the measurements claiming a 3.2 to 3.6 COP were accurate. Aside from the fact that this could not have been produced from any known chemical reaction, the most significant finding to me is the evidence of isotopic shifts in lithium and nickel. Understanding this could possibly be the beginning of a whole new era in both material transmutations and energy for the planet and for space exploration. This is an exciting time to live in and this is an exciting technology to witness come about.”

    IS IT NOT REMARKABLE ? THIS IS NASA !

  122. gian

    “The sample was taken by us at random from the fuel and ash,
    observing utmost care to avoid any contamination.”

    So was written by the Autors of the report.

    The accuses of some colleagues of Upsala that fuel and ash were
    manipulated or replaced by other substances by Rossi are unfounded,

  123. Andrea Calaon

    Dear JoNP Readers,
    dear Wladimir Guglinski, dear eernie1, dear Steven N. Karels, dear Dan C., dear H-G Branzell, dear Rodney Nicholson (question 2 ;) ), …

    Please consider this simple suggestion for the solution for the “mystery” of LENR.

    The LENR are simply nuclear fusion reactions mediated by the electron.

    This so far uncharted type of reaction follows always this scheme:

    Nu(N) + electron + p/d/t -> Nu(N+1) + photons

    where:
    Nu(N) is any nucleus with neutron number N and
    the expression p/d/t meas: either a proton, a deuteron or a triton.
    If Nu(N+1) is not stable other corresponding nuclear “pieces” appear.
    It is a ternuclear reaction in the sense that the three particles on the left react at the same time because they meet in the same place. The means by which this otherwise very unlikely meeting event happens is the coupling of the electron.

    A necessary condition for this reactions to take place is that the two reacting nuclei must have at least a magnetic quadrupole moment (a magnetic dipole moment is even better …) because the attractive potential is magnetic. Is is essentially Dallacasa’s nuclear attractive potential (1983).
    These reactions are triggered only when the two nuclei and the electron find themselves within a radius of “some” picometers, and have kinetic energies that are not too high.
    If you want I can detail on the collapse mechanism.
    It is possible to enhance the coupling through some electromagnetic frequencies.
    The many metal structures that have been proven to host LENR actually succeed in squeezing the two nuclei and the electron inside picometric distances. They do it in a special way, through the dynamic of vacancy movement with some additional requirements: energy localization that comes with non linear modes in particles between 3 and 12 nanometers … this is the physical-chemistry of LENR.

    The essential is that the electron acts like an extension of what is called nuclear force (nothing to do with the strong force). The Zitterbewegung of the electron has a diameter of 386 [fm]: much larger than any nuclear range. And it can reach even further.
    Hence there is actually no particle kinetics that overcomes the Coulomb barrier, as in common plasma fusion.

    There is no need for a special mechanism for energy fractionation because the nuclei accelerate while accelerating towards the electron and during the final collapse that happens “inside” the Zitterbewegung trajectory (like a spiralling rail) of the electron. They therefore emit soft gamma rays, well before the real nuclear reaction eventually takes place: exchange of W+ and emission of a neutrino. In this way part of the binding energy turns into photos instead of kinetic energy of the daughter particles.

    The “classical” LENR are:

    1 : p+e+p ->d + neutrino + (max) 1.442MeV
    2 : d+e+p ->t + neutrino + (aver) 4.9 MeV(max 5.475)
    3a: d+e+d ->H4+ neutrino + (max) 6.82 MeV
    non-excited H4 ->He4+e-+antineut.+(max) 16.00 MeV
    3b: d+e+d+141[keV] ->H4 + neutrino +(max) > 0.00 MeV
    excited H4 ->t + n + 3.39 MeV
    4a: t+e+p ->H4 + neutrino + (max) 2.79 MeV
    non-excited H4 ->He4+e-+antineut.+(max) 16.00 MeV
    4b: t+e+p+4.17[MeV]->H4 + neutrino + (max)> 0.00 MeV (very unlikely)
    exited H4 ->t + n + 3.39 MeV
    5 : t+e+d ->H5 + neutrino + ?
    H5 ->H4 + neutrino+n+e-+(max) 18.1 MeV
    excited H4 ->t + n + 3.39 MeV
    non-excited H4 ->He4+e-+antineut.+(max) 16.00 MeV

    By the way, in the nuclide charts H4 is described having a mass of 4.027806424 [u] and decaying 100% by neutron emission. That is however a excited nuclear isomer. There exists another H4 that has a lower mass (approx. 4.020334 [u]) and that decays beta, as indicated in the _a reactions.

    When one of the two nuclei “captured by the electron” is not a p/d/t, but a heavier nucleus, an isotope shift (possibly followed by a transmutation) occurs.
    For example in the case of Lithium:

    10: Li7+e+p ->He4+ H4(non-excited)+ 0.83 [MeV]
    non-excited H4 ->He4+e-+antineut.+(max) 16.00 [MeV]
    11:Li6+e+p ->He4+t+neutrino+ (max) 4.51 [MeV]
    and the produced tritium is rapidly consumed by reaction 4a.

    Li7 has a magnetic dipole moment (3.256424 [muN]) that is larger than that of Li6 (0.8220467 [muN]). This is the reason for which it reacts more quickly. This causes the isotopic ratio of Lithium to progressively change.

    In the case of Nickel:
    12: Ni58+e+p ->Ni59+neutrino+ (max) 8.22 [MeV]
    13: Ni59+e+p ->Ni60+neutrino+ (max) 10.60 [MeV]
    14: Ni60+e+p ->Ni61+neutrino+ (max) 2.63 [MeV]
    15: Ni61+e+p ->Ni62+neutrino+ (max) 14.22 [MeV]
    Ni61 is the only stable Ni isotope with a magnetic dipole moment. The other isotopes, since they react, must have a magnetic quadrupole moment. Unfortunately no data are available to me about the actual quadrupole magnetic moments of Ni58, Ni59, Ni60.
    The nuclear (fcc) structure of Ni62 is sort of “perfectly symmetric”, in fact it possesses the highest binding energy per nucleon. That makes all its magnetic moments exactly equal to 0. This is the reason why it does not couple with the electron, and stops the isotope shift progression.

    About the Hot-Cat:
    I think that in the “production” mode (long term runs), the Hot-Cat reactions that provide most of the power, as in all other less powerful LENR devices, are number 1, 2, 3a and 4a. Occasionally if reactions 3b and 4b are activated by the gamma radiation of the very same LENR, some lone neutrons can be actually produced. Reaction 5 happens only during some runaway bursts, during which tritium and deuterium accumulate.
    The “heavy” isotopes that can undergo isotope shifts (like Ni58) are completely “depleted” in the priming of the Hot-Cat charge. This phase lasts a time span measurable in months of continuous work.
    When the charge has no more “heavy and shiftable” isotopes, reactions 1-4 can become the primary energy source. And it could be that the optimum electromagnetic stimulus has to be changed accordingly as well.

    A comment on the COP for electricity production:
    To me it makes no sense to evaluate the industrial interest of the COP of a system that can transfer heat only “passively” through radiation to a non-absorbing medium. The COP for electrical energy production should instead be proven for systems that control their temperature at least partly by varying the cooling load.

    The alumina rod of the experiment seems to have been developed specifically for pure radiation heat exchange, like the performed test, because it is brittle, but with excellent endurance at the highest temperatures.

    I think that with:
    - Primed Fuel (no more isotope shifts in Ni and Li) +
    - Discontinuous Cat and Mouse Heating Cascade +
    - Higher Temperature +
    - “Cooling-fluid Thermal Control”
    the COP can raise towards 20. This is the range that I guess Andrea Rossi and his Team have in their hands and are testing right now.

  124. Curiosone

    If the article will be published in a peer reviewed magazine, do you know which one is it ?

  125. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    The Professors told me so. But told me it takes a long time. Besides, it is a 54 pages report, not easy for a magazine. Usually magazines limit the pages around 15-20 pages and this report is not easy to cut, because every page has a precise function.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  126. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone: No, I do not know which one is it.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  127. To Steven N. Karels:

    Questions about how much longer the fuel charge could have continued providing heat in the ITP test may not have much relevance to the performance of a commercial E-cat because in the ITP test the investigators ran the unit with power continuously ‘on’.

    I understand this was to make it simpler to calculate both the energy input and heat output. In previous experiments, in order to keep the unit functioning it had only been necessary to provide input power intermittently. With the continuous power input during this test the fuel may have been used up at a faster rate than would have been the case with only intermittent power input.

    This will also likely be a factor in the COP. If in this ITP test the power had indeed been applied only intermittently, when strictly necessary, then the amount of power input would have been reduced, and the power output likely would not have been diminished as much. So I believe this is one of the reasons the COP in the ITP test came out to less than 6. There may perhaps be additional reasons also.

    Rodney.

  128. Steven N. Karels

    Analysis of the eCat Mass and Interior Volume based on The Report

    The report showed a mass after the test of 452 grams, with one gram attributed to the Fuel.

    Is the mass consistent with the Alumina material and published dimensions?

    Alumina density = 3.95 grams per cubic centimeter

    Volume model: Two Caps plus one cylinder
    Cap is 4 cm in length and has a diameter of 4 cm (radius = 2 cm)
    The cylinder has a length of 20 cm and a diameter of 2 cm (radius = 1 cm)
    If they were solid Alumina, the Alumina volume would be V = pi * r * r * L
    Alumina volume = 2 * pi * (2cm * 2cm * 4cm) + pi * (1cm * 1cm * 20cm) = 52 * pi cc = 163.4 cc
    The corresponding mass would be 3.95 grams per cc * 163.4 cc or 645 grams

    The difference (645 – 452) is due to the hollow volume = 193.3 grams or 49 cc of hollow space
    This does not account for the mass of the resistance heating wires so the space (for the hydrogen gas) is probably 50 cc or slightly larger.

    If the hollow volume were cylindrical with a length of 20 cm, then the hollow cylinder radius would be 6.3 mm or a diameter of 12.6 mm (about ½”).

  129. Steven N. Karels

    Fuel Mass Analysis of the eCat from The Report

    Mass Content:
    The eCat reactor is described as cylindrical with a diameter of 2 cm and a length of 20cm. The material was stated to be Alumina with a triangular surface, 0.23cm deep by 0.32cm wide, purportedly for heat transfer purposes.
    Inside was an electrical heater subsystem. Mass after the test was 452 grams. Fuel mass was 1 gram.

    Assumption: Wall thickness was 0.4 cm (based on a thermocouple hole diameter of 0.4cm).

    Inside Radius = 1.0 cm – 0.23 cm – 0.4 cm = 0.27 cm
    Total Internal Volume of the cylinder = V = pi * r^2 * h = 3.14 * 0.27 * 0.27 * 20 cm = 4.6 cc
    Assumptions: Assign ½ of volume to resistance heaters. Gas pressure is 10 atm.
    Working Volume = 2.3 cc. = 0.0023 liters

    How much hydrogen is needed to support a pressure of 10 atm at 1200K?

    Using the ideal gas law P * V = n * R * T, where R = 0.082 liter * atm / ( K * moles)
    n = P * V / ( T * R) = 10.0 atm * 0.0023 liters / (1200 K * 0.082 atm * liters / (mole * K)
    n = 2.34 * 10 ^-4 moles

    2 grams of hydrogen in one mole, therefore hydrogen mass = about 0.47 milligrams

    Assumption: LiH was used to supply both the hydrogen and the lithium to the eCat.

    What was the mass of the LiH supplied?
    LiH can yield about 25% of its hydrogen when heated above 700C. So the hydrogen portion of the LiH must be 1.88 milligrams. Lithium has an atomic mass of about 7 while hydrogen is about 1. So the amount of LiH is 8 * 1.88 milligrams or about 0.015 grams (or more).
    Total amount of lithium is about 0.013 grams.

    What was the mass of the nickel?
    Total fuel mass was 1 gram. So the nickel mass was about 0.985 grams (could be less)

  130. FINALLY GOT YESTERDAY’S MATS LEWAN INTERVIEW POSTED

    Author of An Impossible Invention

    TWIFE™ Featuring Mats Lewan on E-Cat Test Results – News Compilation on E-Cat Validation Paper

    Includes show notes and links

  131. Curiosone

    Do you know if the Report of the ITP will be also published in a peer reviewed magazine?

  132. Here’s an excerpt from the email that Coast to Coast AM sent out after the show last night, which can be found at http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2014/10/09

    From: CoastZone
    To: sterlingda…
    Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 7:53 AM [MDT]
    Subject: CoastZone – Cold Fusion Breakthroughs

    October 10, 2014 Coast Insider Audio

    Cold Fusion Breakthroughs:

    During the first half, CEO of Pure Energy Systems Inc., Sterling D. Allan , talked about the latest developments in alternative energies and cold fusion technology. Allan commented on a recently published third-party report on the performance of Andrea Rossi’s low energy nuclear reactor. Rossie’s “cold fusion” device ran for 32 days continuously at over 1000° C using only a gram of fuel, he reported, noting it produced 3.5 times more energy than was put into the system. According to Allan, we may only be five to ten years away from a small (size of refrigerator) cold fusion system that can power a house.

  133. Hank Mills has written an excellent article reviewing the test results and their ramifications.

    Apocalypse Revealed – The Four Horsemen of Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat: Lithium Iron Nickel Hydrogen – Not only did the recent report show clear and credible evidence of anomalous heat as well as isotopic ratio changes, proving that Andrea Rossi’s Energy Catalyzer is a clean nuclear process, with no externally measurable radioactivity involved, but it also divulged some important information that may enable replication. (PESN; October 10, 2014)

    I’m nearly ready to upload the interview I did with Mats Lewan yesterday, which you’ll want to listen to. Then I’ll prepare the interview I did on Coast to Coast AM last night, which went well.

    Also, we’ve created a page over at PESWiki to track the news as it comes in on this: http://peswiki.com/index.php/News:E-Cat_Fuel_Analysis_and_Validation_Paper_Posted_October_8%2C_2014

    We welcome your help in keeping it updated. We try to use GMT time with the date so we can keep things in their proper sequence of arrival.

    Like Wikipedia, PESWiki is publicly editable. Feel free to update and add links. We had to disable the sign-up of new users due to spam, so just contact us if you want an account.

    We use stars to highlight excellent coverage, and we also have a flag to mark “mainstream” news stories as they trickle in.

  134. Giovanni

    The E-lectriCAT

  135. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    I saw someone use this quote today, referencing you.

    “When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him.” – Jonathan Swift

    At least a few other intelligent individuals, like those who have signed onto the paper and work with you at IH, have provided you with an alliance of allies against the dunces.

    Also, someone

  136. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    Thank you, but I am not a “Genius”, just a hard worker.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  137. Giovanni

    Dear Dr Rossi
    please hurry up in your way of producing electric power….. that will be the real and world wide accepted and recognized winning strike!!!
    My best regards and compliments
    Giovanni

  138. Andrea Rossi

    TO THE READERS:
    I have been informed right now that on a blog a person whose nickname is Raman has said a curious thing I want to deal with because is a paradigmatic example of fake professionality used to perpetrate an agenda.
    Here is how the story goes.
    This Raman, proclaiming himself a high level expert, writes that from the data of the report the conductivity of the cables of the resistance does not respect the Ohm’s Law, therefore all the E-Cat stuff is rubbish.
    He says this apodittically, without any analysis of the real situation: as a matter of fact, the alloy of the resistance is different from the alloy of the cables. Every alloy’s behavior in function of the temperature is a characteristic of its. In the alloy of our resistance, the behavior is not linear. Copper wires have standard Ohmic behavior in function of temperature: their resistance becomes higher with the temperature. Because the resistors are in series and not in parallel, it is clear that with higher temperature the copper cables dissipate less and the coils of the internal resistance dissipate more. Mr Raman uses the word “Shunt”, in a totally improper situation: shunts are resistors that are put in parallel to an ammeter, but in this case we have resistors in series; he has used a simple evaluation of linear behavior as if dealing with simple electric conductors. Our doped conductor has non linear answers, and it acts in synergy with the regulation and control system in a very sophysticated way. As I said many times, the E-Cat is a machine much, much more complex than it appears to be. Somebody really thinks that I am a stupid guy, and that the E-Cat is fallen on my head casually from a fig tree, while I was eating a banana, with problems in managing how to peel it ( and jetting the peel on the flowers too); consequently, these imbeciles ( from the Latin Imbacula, not an offense, just a factual situation), that do not know the difference between linear and not linear behaviors in function of T, think they can act as Professors, utilizing formulas to calculate linear integrals instead of non-linear, without even think to the fact that, before saying this, you have to analyse the situation you are dealing with.
    The Professors of the ITP have, obviously, considered only the well known dispersions, i.e. the ones from the copper cables. From the report, it is clear that for the Cu cables the Ohm Law is perfectly respected, while it is not possible for the cables of the resistance inside the E-Cat. The alimentation cables are in series with the cables inside the reactor, therefore all the line cannot be considered linear.
    In a nutshell: the Report is very, very tough and deep, it is not fit for an easy reading. I bet all you want that this Mr Raman has not been able to read it.
    So long, “Prof” Raman.
    Suggested reference: ” Electronics for Dummies” ( Amazon).
    Andrea Rossi

  139. Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Readers and Writers of JoNP,
    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    Thinking again about the movie: “Le Concert”.
    Andrea seems to be the perfect conductor:
    Letting the Ni- and Li- atoms transmute perfectly ONE BY ONE, for 32 days.
    I did not find the sheet-music in the report. Andrea wrote that he is a drummer, so it must have been the beats.
    So, how is this done ?
    Musical Regards,
    Koen

  140. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    “Le Concert”: what a wonderful movie!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  141. eernie1

    Dear Valeriy,
    The high energy protons for the 7Li transformation and the neutrons for the 6Li transformations must be supplied by either a linear accelerator or a fission reactor which is use to produce the He and also the Tritium used in the H bomb. In Rossi’s device no signs of He or 3H or signs of high energy neutrons or protons are found or reported.
    Regards

  142. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Seshavatharam:
    Thank you for your insight,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  143. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    As I read The Report, It does not indicate the eCat reactor was running out of fuel. Certainly some ash was found and was measured. But I would understand that when the reactor was shut-down, there was still fuel available for further operation.

    a. Is this correct?
    b. Do you have an estimate of what percentage of fuel was left?

  144. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    a- As you can read on the report, when the E-Cat has been shut down the fuel had not been totally consumed. It is difficult to know how much more time it could endure.
    b- No.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  145. eernie1

    Dear Wlad,
    Since the Halo Neutron of the 11Be has been observed, the possible existence of a Halo Neutron in the 7Li cannot be ignored despite the theories of the SQM. Assuming its existence and the looseness of its bond in the 7Li nucleus, there are a number of possibilities for creating and applying enough energy to allow the neutron to be expelled with added energy. One use for the hydrogen protons added to the device may be to create multiple microwave ovens in the cracks of the Ni complex. My reasoning is that the cracks contain a strong magnetic field created by the heated NI atoms which align the spins of the H protons inserted into the cavities of the cracks. Then with the influence of an applied RF field(pulsed) the ensuing microwave oven RF then causes the 7Li nucleus to release its Halo Neutron and the dance begins. I have other thoughts about the possible generation of stimulating energy, but I need more time to think about it.
    Wlad, Has Pandora’s box been opened?
    Curious regards.

  146. Respected Andreea Rossi Sir

    I would like to bring to your kind notice that, form the recent third party report report of page-30, para-2, line-2/3:”Our measurement, based on calculating the power emitted by the reactor through radiation and convection, gave the following results: the net production of the reactor after 32 days’ operation was (5825 ± 10%) [MJ],the density of thermal energy (if referred to an internal charge weighing 1 g)” can be fitted and understood with binding energy difference of 58Ni, 62Ni and 7Li.

    If BE of 58 Ni 506.6 MeV, BE of 62 Ni =544.41 MeV and BE of 7Li= 41.45 MeV, then
    41.45-(544.41-506.6)=41.45-37.81=3.64 MeV of energy for each transformation (of 58Ni to 62Ni)can be liberated. If so for one gram of 58Ni,5894 MJ of energy can be liberated.

    thanking you sir,
    yours sincerely,
    U.V.S.Seshavatharam

  147. Italo R.

    Dear Dr. Rossi, the correct link for that CNN page is:
    http://www.american-reporter.com/5,074/1.html

    The same article is on:
    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1177868

    But I think that there is something to be corrected on measuring units (inches, megawatt)

  148. Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.:
    Thank you for the info,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  149. Tom Conover

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Again may I say, “GREAT RESULTS!” I love the small format you used for the test reactor!!!

    I found out some info about your comment about mainstream CNN coverage. It is nice that Joe Shea put a story “ireport.cnn.com” and on “american-reporter.com” but it states that the story is “Not verified by CNN” and Joe is a fan of yours (as am I) that regularly posts on e-catworld. Great job, Joe! The links to his comments and stories and contact information he publishes there are shown below.

    Tom Conover

    http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/10/08/e-cat-report-released/

    by Joe Shea
    AR Correspondent
    Bradenton, Fla.
    October 9, 2014

    Joe Shea is Editor-in-Chief of The American Reporter. Write him at mreporter@aol.com.

    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1177868
    and on
    http://www.american-reporter.com/
    NOT VERIFIED BY CNN

  150. Andrea Rossi

    Tom Conover:
    Thank you for the info.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  151. Andrea Rossi

    Andrea Moraitis:
    We are working also on that configuration.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  152. Mark Saker

    Dear Andrea,

    1) I know you are now looking into the result of the nickel analysis.

    Even if you cannot determine the cause of Ni 90% transmutation in one month, would an easy fix be to add six grams of material to give you a 6month usage cycle (which is still not very much). Would this have any adverse effects?

    Or..
    WE’LL SEE

    2) Would the reactor continue to work regardless of the change in Nickel isotope (you probably cannot answer this ) :)
    EXACTLY

    3) Also, is there video footage of the test at the times you were involved such as emptying the reactor, etc. Of course I fully believe in the e-cat, I’m just thinking of the pathological skeptics. I’m interested to see how far they will go before they convert :) I’m guessing very far!
    THERE IS NO ANY VIDEO FOOTAGE REGARDING THE LUGANO TEST; IF SOME IS AROUND, IT IS A FALSE PRODUCTION. THE CHARGE HAS BEEN PUT AND EXTRACTED BY THE COMMETTEE

    4) Could you request the ITP authors release some more photos to quench our thirst for new stuff….or you can release a picture of the 1MW device. hehe
    NO. PHOTOS OF THE 1 MW PLANT WILL SURELY BE AVAILABLE IN DUE TIME

    5) Are you aware of IH giving any media announcements related to the Ecat in the near term or will they not talk until the 1MW planty has been running for a year? Surely you must be in contact with them?
    NO NEWS UNTIL THE R&D AND TEST UPON THE PLANT SUPPLIED TO THE CUSTOMER WILL BE COMPLETED

    6) Any plans to come to England, I’ll be glad to cook you a meal
    I TAKE NOTICE OF THIS

  153. Andrea Rossi

    Mark Saker:
    See the answers inside your comment in capital letters.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  154. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear Andrea
    all of us we are obviously happy and really excited for the report.
    However, as you can imagine, among your “beloved Readers” several comments and chatters were born. :)
    I would be happy to have some clarification with respect to what we had understood in the past.
    1 It was understood (but can not remember who had said it …) “6 months of continuous operation”. There have been other tests, beyond the 32 days? Or the “continuous operation” lasted only for 32 days?
    2 You said: “The report will be written by Professors and 7 Physicists of three European Universities”. For some reason one professor has waived?
    3 There was talk of “a peer reviewed scientific magazine”. As far as you know, the publication is still in progress?
    Greetings and warmest congratulations
    Giuliano Bettini.

  155. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    1- see my answer to Aubrey yesterday
    2- read well the Prof. who participated to the Report
    3- yes
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  156. Wladimir Guglinski

    eernie1 wrote in October 9th, 2014 at 10:40 PM

    Wlad,
    The lifetime of a free neutron is approximately 15 minutes. Don’t you think that would be enough time for the neutron to encounter a 58Ni and be captured by it?
    ——————————————

    Eernie,
    the problem is: a halo neutron with orbit radius R=7fm in 3Li7 is impossible by considering the current models of the Standard Nuclear Theory (as I explained for the case of the halo neutron of the 4Be11).

    Such 3Li7 halo neutron with orbit R=7fm makes sense only by considering my new nuclear model.

    As the 3Li7 is stable, the question is to know why the neutron leaves away the nucleus.

    regards
    wlad

  157. Valeriy Tarasov

    Dear eernie1,
    I have meant not a spontaneous decay of stable isotope 7Li, but its induced decay in result of interaction with protons.

  158. Andreas Moraitis

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    First of all, congratulations from me, too, for the successful report.

    My question: What do you think about a hybrid reactor, powered both by electricity and gas? Perhaps it would be easier to realize than a completely new, solely gas-based system.

    Best regards,
    Andreas Moraitis

  159. Hank Mills

    Hello Everyone,

    My article about this ground breaking report is now up at PESN.

    Apocalypse Revealed: The Four Horsemen of Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat

    http://pesn.com/2014/10/10/9602543_Apocalypse-Revealed–The-Four-Horsemen_of_Andrea-Rossis_E-Cat/

    Don’t let the title mislead you. Apocalypse means revelation in Greek.

  160. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    Thank you!
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  161. Christopher Henderson

    Thank you so much Dr. Rossi, and congratulations! What a great day for humanity. Thank God for you and the E-Cat.

    Love,

    Chris

  162. Andrea Rossi

    Christopher Henderson:
    Thank you. Now our team has to work very hard to make true what you say.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  163. Dan C.

    Dear Mr. Rossi:

    In response to H-G Branzell: You said
    > “I knew that during the operation 62Ni is formed”
    > “and its percentage grows, but not in that measure.”
    > “We are studying this fact to try to understand.”

    If I may make an observation:
    This test was performed 24/7 @32 days under continuous power.
    The ash analyzed in your lab are likely from reactors that run in on/off(SSM) 25% or so of the time or may have to do with the EM Pulse or both. Is there a correlation that stands up to scrutiny.
    Wishing you a happy serendipity.

    Warm Regards,
    Dan C.

  164. Andrea Rossi

    Dan C.:
    Yes, your point is good, as well as the point of H-G Branzell. We are trying to reconcile the 62Ni issue. It is midnight, right now, and I am studying on this…just while your comment arrived!
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  165. eernie1

    Wlad,
    The lifetime of a free neutron is approximately 15 minutes. Don’t you think that would be enough time for the neutron to encounter a 58Ni and be captured by it?

  166. Andrea Rossi

    Dear Readers:
    It appears the mainstream Media are looking at LENR: I have been informed right now that this has been running on CNN today:
    http://www.american-reporter.com/5,704/1.html
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  167. Wladimir Guglinski

    eernie1 wrote in October 9th, 2014 at 4:11 PM

    Wlad,
    Thank you for your wise comments. Theoretically the loose nucleons should be r=1.2fm.11^1/3 = approx. 2.76fm for 11Be but tests out at7fm. For 7Li this should be 1.2.7^1/3 or approx. 2.3fm. Since there is no data for the neutron of the 7Li nucleus, my best guess would be around 5-7fm., well beyond the 3fm distance that the strong force exhibits a healthy influence. I suggested thermal influence because we know that is provided through the heating cycle
    ———————————————–

    Dear Eernie,
    there is one thing the nuclear theorists do not consider regarding the halo neutrons with radius orbit R = 7fm, as in the case of 11Be: the centripetal force.

    Due to the rotation of the nucleus, and because the radius R= 7fm is very short, the neutron is submitted to strong centripetal force, trying to expell it.
    As there is not interaction via strong force in the distance R=7f between the neutron and the cluster, the neutron would have to be expelled from the 11Be.

    But the neutron of the 4Be11 decays, and becomes a proton, and the situation becomes worst, because there is Coulomb repulsion between the newborn proton and the cluster.
    With the decay of the neutron to proton, the newborn element is the 5B10 with a halo proton in a distance of 7fm from the cluster.
    Therefore the newborn 5B10 would have to expell the halo proton, and transmute to 3Li7 + 2He4

    However, instead of leaving away the cluster, actually the halo proton is captured by the cluster, and they form the stable 5B10.

    There is no way to explain it via the current nuclear models of the Standard Nuclear Theory.

    regards
    wlad

  168. Ron Stringer

    Dear Dr. Rossi,
    Congratulations on this most recent public validation of your work. The scientists probably now have enough information to continue their studies on their own, while you can continue to pursue industrial commercial success, which is as it ought to be. The next milestone, we all hope, will be the irrefutable and really world-changing one, the implementation of fully functioning, productive units doing real, useful work!
    One question, if you can spare the time; was the e-cat tested in the report coupled to a mouse, or was it on it’s own? I am guessing the former, and that the cat and mouse configuration will be even more efficient!
    All the best to you and your amazing team. – Ron

  169. WaltC

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    Congratulations on the test results.

    If genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration then in your case I’d add a big something more for perseverance in the face of adversity. This recent good news is very well deserved on your part and your team’s.

    I do have a question, if you have time: The report’s analysis seemed to indicate that a large part of the excess energy came from the transmutation of Lithium and Nickel:
    – Do you think that’s true, or is the jury still out on that one?

    Thanks & congratulations again,
    Walt C.

  170. Andrea Rossi

    WaltC:
    The Professors just made measurements, so they are not out on anything. Now we have to interpret the results, and while for Li we can reconcile, with the results of Ni it’s hard. Much to study about.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  171. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Thank you! Very Fine!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  172. Herb Gillis

    Andrea Rossi:
    Congratulations on the latest confirmation of your invention!
    I would like to pose the following question regarding the extreme depletion of 58Ni in the latest report. Could this be explained by “hot spots” in the reactor? Some of the fuel particles may have gone into “run away” mode during the reaction, resulting in the nearly total exhaustion of 58Ni, and changing the physical appearance of the particles. The change in physical appearance might have caused an (unintentional) selection bias during the analysis??
    Kind regards; HRG.

  173. Andrea Rossi

    Herb Gillis:
    We are studying the analysis; while for Li we had theorized it and we understand well the results, the results related to Ni are puzzling us.
    I have an idea, but there is much to study upon.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  174. Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Andrea,
    The Rossi-Effect seems to transform the nuclei to stable isotopes. Is there any hope -within the scientists group that cooperate with you- to use the effect to treat radioactive waste with the Rossi Effect ?
    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  175. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    Thank you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  176. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Some clarification please. On The Report, it shows the ash had largely consumed certain nickel and lithium isotopes. But I understand that this is only for the ash particles. So, there still remained fuel particles that had not been changed to ash at the end of the test?

    a. Is this correct?
    b. Can you disclose the relative amount of lithium compared to the nickel? It would help in the energy analysis.
    c. Helium was not mentioned in the report. Do you believe this was generated but either escaped or was not tested for?
    d. What do you think the primary energy producing reaction was (lithium)? and the secondary one (nickel)?

  177. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Please forward your questions to Orsobubu.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  178. Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Andrea,
    Dear Industrial Heat team,
    Am I correct that with this version of E-Cat, the long-term self-sustain-mode under heavy load has lost a lot of its importance to COP ? Or are there other tricks in the hat ?

    It makes obsolete a lot of other ideas and concepts. Any attempt to compete with your team is pointless.

    Congratulations,
    Koen

  179. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    We have studied that possibility, but to no avail so far.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  180. alex

    Dear Ing. Rossi
    Congratulations on this dramatic milestone. The world is awaiting rollout of the hot cat coupled to a prime mover and alternator producing electricity at a fraction of the price which would be affordable by the poor of the world.
    It looks like the report has revealed a lot of what’s inside the reactor. Are you not afraid of some countrynor group of people copying your science?
    The Chinese and India are starved of energy and the hot cat technology would suit yhem fine, hopefully without stealing it from you.

    God speed.

  181. Andrea Rossi

    Alex:
    As a matter of fact in these 8 months of tests the Professors of the ITP have collected substantial information.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  182. JCRenoir

    A Physics question, if you have time: I found somebody say that bosons are massless, other say bosons are massive. What do you think?
    JCR

  183. Andrea Rossi

    JC Renoir:
    Bosons are massless; they become massive in case of spontaneous symmetry breaking.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  184. Curiosone

    Congratulations, great result. Bravo!

  185. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    Thank you!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  186. DTravchenko

    Dr Rossi: I have read the report: what a wonderful thing !
    Forward, Andrea, Forward!
    Warm Regards,
    DT

  187. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    Thank you!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  188. Arnie

    Dear mr Rossi. I have been following this blog- with anticipation- for a few years, and even though i know this type of reactions should not be possible, I have since the beginning not seen any real reasons for doubting something “impossible” is really happening. For example: You have been relatively welcoming to journalists and scientists, and too much people are involved. Someone with something to hide would never take such risks. If I really had something to hide, why let so many get the opportunity to find the “hidden cable”? Most or all of your so called competitors are doing the opposite, and in these cases I really can hear the alarm bells loud and clear…
    And for anyone reading the just published test I think it should be obvious something “impossible” is actually taking place.
    With this said, I still think the sceptics generally are doing a great job, forcing you and even TIP professors to refine methods, even if some sceptics tend to be overly aggressive.
    Of course I have understood that you don’t always want to tell us everything. And doing so would be very unwise.
    Also I have understood that you sometimes have wanted the world and perhaps yourself to think that you understand more about the process than you actually do. This is also normal, and perhaps necessary to stay ahead of the competitors. There has also been some unclear information regarding the manufacturing and e-cat factory constructions and so on. To this there might be similar -or other- explanations, too.
    But I have never caught you lying about anything.
    This leads to my questions.
    You have said you have provided the TIP team with three devices, but they claim to have had access to one device only.
    1.Why this contradiction?
    You have said you have had nothing to do with the tests, but -irrelevant or not- you have been visiting the testing premises at least three times.
    2.Why is this?
    Also, the length of the tests: you have said the device has been running for months in the tests, but it was only one month.
    3.Am I mistaken? Could be I misunderstood.
    Otherwise, one explanation could be that there are more than one group performing tests right now…
    Thank you for your time! Kind regards! /Arnie

  189. Andrea Rossi

    Arnie:
    1- two E-Cats were spare parts, in case of breakage of the first and, eventually, of the second
    2- I have been there to check that everything was OK and to intervene in case of breakages, not to participate to the measurements. In the Report is described what I did.
    3- six months were including all the phases of the test: the operation started on the 13th of February ( when the professors started to arrive) and finished in half September, with the last analysis.
    Thank you for your attention,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  190. Wladimir Guglinski

    Nicola Cortesi wrote in October 9th, 2014 at 3:31 AM

    Dear Readers,

    Litium, Nickel, H+… It seems that all the components of the E-cat fuel are also naturally present in some rocks inside the earth, where the high temperatures and pressures could be able to sustain the LENR reactions indefinitely, generating the “missing heat” geophysicians are looking for. Maybe if there is a geologist between the readers, he could try to speculate on this topic further.
    —————————————————

    Dear Nicola,
    the speculation about cold fusion within the Earth, and also in the heliosphere of the Sun, is mentioned in my book Os Dados que Deus Escondeu, published in 2003 in Brazil.
    http://bodigaya.com.br/index.php/os-dados-que-deus-escondeu.html

    regards
    wlad

  191. eernie1

    Dear Valeriy,
    3Li,4Li,5Li,8Li and 9LI decay to He but 6Li and 7Li are stable isotopes. Am I missing something?

  192. eernie1

    Wlad’
    I also believe a sprinkling of 11Be in the mix would not hurt.

  193. eernie1

    Wlad,
    Thank you for your wise comments. Theoretically the loose nucleons should be r=1.2fm.11^1/3 = approx. 2.76fm for 11Be but tests out at7fm. For 7Li this should be 1.2.7^1/3 or approx. 2.3fm. Since there is no data for the neutron of the 7Li nucleus, my best guess would be around 5-7fm., well beyond the 3fm distance that the strong force exhibits a healthy influence. I suggested thermal influence because we know that is provided through the heating cycle

  194. Valeriy Tarasov

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    In the paper, there is a change of isotopes ratio towards 62Ni increase. But this doesn’t mean that there is synthesis of 62Ni. This can be a result of decay of all other Ni isotopes (the same scheme with 7Li and 6Li, I have mentioned to eernie1 below). Such fission will change the ratio. Only the precise measurement of nickel amount before and after usage will give the answer. If there is synthesis of 62Ni from 58Ni then total amount of nickel isotopes will stay the same. If there is 58Ni decay, after interaction with alpha particles, into low atomic weight elements then total amount of nickel will be decreased.
    Best wishes,
    Valeriy Tarasov

  195. Joseph Fine

    Andrea,

    My family and I thank you for your continued dedication to this miracle.

    In reply to my request for a not-lengthy lyric to the labwork by Levi et al in Lugano, with Lithium and lots of labor, Matt Robinson sent the following.

    New Fire – by Matt Robinson

    The Third Party test in Lugano
    was built on a set of Meccano
    In the middle a pipe,
    The first of its type
    Showing the light of a brighter Tomorro’

    Our congratulations to you and your team,

    Joseph Fine

  196. Giovanni Guerrini

    Dear Dott Rossi,
    Yes,of course,anyone working in this project,works for the truth and progress.
    Thank you all.

    Regards G G

  197. Carlo Marcena

    I haven’t yet read the report, but … an idea about COP: if warming heat is supplied by burning fuel, and electricity is used only for EM stimulus, then also a COP<5 or so would allow an efficient electricity generation.
    I am sure that this idea has already been assessed …
    Again, Andrea, my best congratulations for the results you have obtained so far.
    Regards,
    CM

  198. Janne

    Dear Mr. Rossi,

    Congratulations on the astounding results of the ITP test!

    This being the last test that is conducted and public information about the IH customer possibly a year away, does this mean we’re in for yet another long silence? I want the E-Cat to revolutionize energy production yesterday!!

    Best Regards,

    ~Janne

  199. Tommaso di pietro

    Dear ing. Rossi,
    What is The following step of The e cat disclosure?
    Press conference?visit to The plant in operation?other?

  200. Andrea Rossi

    Tommaso Di Pietro:
    We’ll see.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  201. Dear Dr. Rossi,

    The new design of you ECat reactor and the temperatures achieved in the latest test are a testament to your engineering genius. Congratulations!

    Do you intend to use the ECat self-sustaining mode in commercial applications or has your team decided that better control is achieved via the use of uninterrupted electrical power input as was done in the latest 32 day test run?

    Many have tried to harness “Cold Fusion”, but you have actually succeeded after “only” 25 1/2 years of research and toil under the frowning gaze of the scientific physics establishment. Bravo! Wishing you continued great success.

    Best Regards,

    Daniel G. Zavela

  202. Andrea Rossi

    Daniel G. Zavela:
    Thank you.
    The Cat&Mouse ballet will go commercial.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  203. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    The success of eCat technology as demonstrated in the report will awaken the sleeping giants who will want to oppose or control the technology. Most people of technology that I know believe “Cold Fusion” to be a pseudo-science. This report may evoke a major change in their perceptions.

    I say the onslaught of critics because the powers that will be negatively affected by eCat will attempt to rally against you. I suspect the “Plan A” – LENR is bad science – is now effectively negated by The Report. “Plan B” will now be to regulate it into non-existence or otherwise force it into a mechanism where the eCat technology can be minimized or forced to be abandoned. This is where the Game becomes interesting.

  204. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    1- I have to work and stay focused on my job
    2- I have to pray God to help us
    All the rest is not up to me
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  205. Giovanni Guerrini

    Carissimo Dott Rossi,
    EVVIVA! “Eppur si muove!” e correrà sempre più veloce.
    Onore alla scienza che,tra le tante cose,ci dona l’incontestabilità di ciò che è vero.
    Onore al Prof Levi e colleghi,che dedicano la propria esistenza al perseguimento della verità e del progresso.

    Grazie a tutti Voi. Giovanni Guerrini

  206. Andrea Rossi

    Giovanni Guerrini:
    Thank you; obviously the results are merit of all our Team.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  207. Nicola Cortesi

    Dear Readers,

    Litium, Nickel, H+… It seems that all the components of the E-cat fuel are also naturally present in some rocks inside the earth, where the high temperatures and pressures could be able to sustain the LENR reactions indefinitely, generating the “missing heat” geophysicians are looking for. Maybe if there is a geologist between the readers, he could try to speculate on this topic further.

    Bests,
    Nicola

  208. Andrea Rossi

    Nicola Cortesi:
    Sure your comment merits an answer from a geophysicist: I am not able to answer, but you are introducing an interesting principle: under our feet we have an immense laboratory that makes for us for free a gigantic amount of experiments, if we are able to read them.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  209. Daniel De Caluwé

    Dear dr. Rossi,

    I’ve read the Report. Also from Belgium, congratulations with this positive report! Again a big step! As I read them calculating the energy radiation and the convection, having to calculate and fill in all the parameters, I couldn’t supress a smile, because, of course, with this big amount of excess energy, for people with eyes to see and ears to hear, this was already obvious with the simple caloremetric tests that you did yourself. I personally even prefer a simple caloremetric test, with a cooling fluid, measuring the flow and the delta T (Temperature difference) because honestly, that’s less complicated. But ok, the scientifc world now has, back again, a very decent report, measuring and calculating the excess energy in a different way. Kind Regards, and a lot of further success with you work, and with the 1MW plant at the location of the customer.

  210. Andrea Rossi

    Daniel De Caluwé:
    Thank you for your attention; in the report is explained well why the Professors preferred a direct measure of the energy instead of through a heat exchanger.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  211. Marco Serra

    Caro Andrea
    non ho mai dubitato della tua scoperta da quando ho visto su youtube il Prof. Focardi che diceva “Per l’umanità questa scoperta è paragonabile a quella del fuoco”. Da allora passato 3 anni annoiando amici e familiari increduli sulla nuova era che, grazie a te, si stava per aprire per l’umanità. Tutte le mattine ho letto i tuoi posts su questo sito aspettando buone notizie. Finalmente il momento è arrivato e la mia gioia è alle stelle. Ti faccio le mie congratulazioni e i migliori auguri per il tuo futuro lavoro.
    Grazie a te e grazie a Dio che sicuramente ha guidato il tuo lavoro.

    Un abbraccio
    Marco

    PS. Se hanno dato il Nobel 2014 per la fisica agli inventori del led a luce blu non possono non darlo a te.

  212. Andrea Rossi

    Marco Serra:
    Thank you!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  213. Enrico Ghelardoni

    The report finally arrived and puts an end to this last stressing period for many of us.
    Hope that things will go a little smoother for everybody.
    Thanks for your resolution.

    Enrico

  214. Andrea Rossi

    Enrico Ghelardoni:
    Thank you!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  215. Dan C.

    Dear Mr. Rossi

    You may already be aware that Elforsk is considering LENR Research.
    If not-On NyTeknik

    http://www.nyteknik.se/asikter/debatt/article3854541.ece

    Maybe in relationship with Industrial Heat???
    Regards
    Dan C.

  216. Andrea Rossi

    Dan C.:
    Thank you for your kind attention. No comment at all.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  217. Dear Andrea,
    Congratulations for the report. The ash was reported to be 98% pure Ni-62. There seems to be a marker for pure isotopes, see e.g. isotope-amt.com and buyisotope.com. To know the prices, one would have to ask for quotation. Someone at Vortex mailing list had speculated earlier that the price could be more than $100k per 10 grams (www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg79966.html).
    Maybe you could sell some surplus Ni-62 from test runs, and in that way generate some extra income for Leonardo Corp. From a 1 MW plant, the amounts produced would no longer be so tiny.
    best regards, /pekka

  218. Andrea Rossi

    Pekka Janhunen:
    Maybe an idea.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  219. George

    compliments Dr Rossi. You’re a champion

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSTivVclQQ0

  220. Andrea Rossi

    George:
    Thank you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  221. H-G Branzell

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    Your new member of the E-Cat family obviously needs a name. It belongs to the subspecies Hot-Cats, but it still needs a name of its own. To me this new name is obvious, welcome the Dogbone Cat, or D-Cat for short.

  222. Andrea Rossi

    H-G Branzell:
    Good idea!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  223. Andrea Rossi

    Bill Nicholson:
    Please find my answers in capital letters below your questions in your comment.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  224. Dan C.

    Dear Andrea

    Congratulations to You & your team on a positive report. I have read it once. it is not as layman friendly as the last report.

    As to the COP>3.6, I take notice of the On/Off(SSM) and EM Pulse is not implemented. Both of which would have a greater impact on COP though more complex to control.

    The test seems to be a bare-bones basic mode which appears very stable in operation. A practical approach considering it’s intent was to measure excess heat, not necessarily a high COP.

    My Intuition is that I may be missing something other then the EM Pulse & On/Off(SSM) not being implemented. If I’m correct, could you point out what I should be looking for before I re-read the report. It’s a Long Read & my eyes are getting old. :-(

    P.S. This looks like a Cat between 2 mouseys. Any comment?

    https://html1-f.scribdassets.com/44sjod4la842xrh7/images/2-ee77d95136.jpg

    Warmest Regards
    Dan C.

  225. Andrea Rossi

    Dan C.:
    Thank you for this important information.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  226. H-G Branzell

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    I have read the new third party report, thank you. The isotopic shifts are mindblowing. When the test ends all the Nickel is Ni-62 and in spite of this the Net Power Production shown in Plot 6 is constant and even increasing until the test ends. It is like a miracle! How do you do that? :)

  227. Andrea Rossi

    H-G Branzell:
    You are right.
    The results of the analysis have been partially surprising also to me. I perfectly expected the depletion of 7Li ( I have a patent pending for this, filed much before the test), I knew that during the operation 62Ni is formed ( we found many times a shift toward 62Ni in our private tests) and its percentage grows, but not in that measure. We are studying this fact to try to understand.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  228. Andrea Rossi

    Martin Aubrey:
    Sorry, I cannot give this information,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  229. gian

    THIS IS AN IMPORTANT DECLARATION FROM SWEDISH: NyTeknik

    Omissis …………
    The central part of the reactor is narrow and two inches long . In the experiments, the reactor was at a temperature up to about 1400 degrees Celsius. Net developed 1,500 kWh energy as heat. The heat energy released was three to four times the electrical energy input . This with approximately one gram of the fuel consisting of hydrogen charged with nickel additives in powder form.

    Elforsk in recent years has followed the development of what has come to be called nuclear reactions at low energy, LENR – Low Energy Nuclear Reactions . Elforsk include published a compilation of knowledge about LENR . Elforsk has also co-funded the current measurements and earlier measurements. While the earlier measurements showed an unexplained excess energy .

    If it is possible to safely achieve and control the now indicated nuclear reactions waiting probably eventually a fundamental transformation of our energy system. It can open for decentralized energy supply. Electricity and heat can then be produced with relatively simple components . Climate Efficient energy would be very cheap.

    In the current situation we do not know if all this is too fantastic to be true. The measurement results indicate that a new way of extracting nuclear power may have been discovered. A small group of Swedish scientists are deeply involved in trying to understand the underlying physics . Sweden thus has a unique chance to be involved in leading research and development in the LENR area .

    Elforsk now taking the initiative to build a comprehensive Swedish research initiative . More knowledge is needed to understand and explain. Let us engage more researchers in searching coat phenomenon and then explain how it works.

    Magnus Olofsson , CEO Elforsk

  230. Andrea Rossi

    Gian:
    Translation: ” Our gratitude and a prayer must go also to Prof. Sergio Focardi”.
    I totally share your comment.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  231. gian

    Il nostro riconoscente pensiero ed una
    preghiera vadano al Prof. Sergio Focardi.

  232. Andrea Rossi

    Gian:
    Very important indeed, thank you. We are really honoured of this position of Elforsk.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  233. Will Hurley

    Congratulations!!! I am amazed at the progress you have made in short order. You have invented the new light bulb and now many lamps must be invented.
    Sergio is smiling.
    God Speed
    Will

  234. Andrea Rossi

    Will Hurley:
    Thank you!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  235. I hope what I just heard is confirmed. If so, a hardy congratulations!!
    I’m very glad my business is making laundry detergent. No matter how little pollution the world continues to produce, folks will still manage to get dirty.

    Charlie

  236. Andrea Rossi

    Dear Readers:
    I am delighted to receive your comments. I will answer to all of them as soon as possible.
    Warmest regards to all.
    A.R.

  237. Martyn Aubrey

    Dear Dr Rossi,

    Would it be correct to say that one “cap” is the Cat and the other “cap” is the Mouse?

    If so, does each cap contain its own charge of nickel powder fuel?

    Kind Regards,
    Martyn

  238. Bill Nichols

    Dear Andrea,

    Congratulations on the very positive release of the report of the e-cat. Can only express the appreciation and thanks for the incredible time and efforts made by you and many others.

    Know your incredibly busy…

    Three quick questions

    1.) Does this report aid in obtaining patent(s); hence strengthen your implementation of a business model (besides you mentioning demonstrating the product and satisfied customers)?
    PATENTS ARE DEALT WITH BY OUR ATTORNEYS; BUSINESS MODEL IS BASED MORE ON THE PERFORMANCE OF THE 1 MW PLANT IN OPERATION

    2.) Will this report aid in partnering with others to obtain greater resources to proceed (financially, technologically, and so on) in concert with question 1 above?
    THIS REPORT WILL STRENGTHEN OUR EFFORTS TO CONTINUE IN OUR R&D ENDEAVOURS AND DEVELOPE THE INDUSTRIALIZATION OF OUR PRODUCTS

    3.) The report is only a step. Have the report authors provided a roadmap to involve the larger scientifically community and ultimately allowing these and future results secure support for further research and discoveries?
    WHILE OUR R&D EFFORTS WILL CONTINUE, COHERENTLY WITH ALL OUR FORMER WORK, WE FROM NOW ON WILL FOCUS OUR ATTENTION ON THE PLANTS IN OPERATION IN THE FACTORIES OF OUR CUSTOMERS. OUR R&D WILL GO AHEAD COHERENTLY WITH OUR INDUSTRIAL NECESSITIES AND WITH THE NECESSITY TO MAINTAIN AS LONG AS NECESSARY OUR IP

    Interesting how your new technology configuration has similarities to what asked you to visualize several days ago. Coincidence? I don’t think so. : < )
    I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING: OUR “NEW TECHNOLOGY CONFIGURATION” HAS BEEN BORN ONE YEAR AGO, NOT SEVERAL DAYS AGO

    Critical we communicate what heat and temperature are, how they overlap with the incomplete concepts of "gravity" and "charge" in the mediums we define as matter. As we've discussed.
    SORRY, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WANNA SAY!

    More to ponder from an olde and ancient B-52 aviator.
    OK

    All the best and enjoy the ride!
    WITH A PILOT LIKE YOU THE RIDE WILL NOT BE BORING.
    WARM REGARDS
    A.R.

    Kind Regards,

    Bill Nichols

  239. Valeriy Tarasov

    And more :) , a similar to 7Li decay effect should be detected if Lithium will be replaced by Potassium or Sodium.
    Best wishes,
    Valeriy Tarasov

  240. Valeriy Tarasov

    Dear eernie1,
    Just one note. In the case of 7Li decay to alpha particles after its interaction with protons relative amount of 6Li will be increased. Thus, no synthesis of 6Li is needed, and only decay of 7Li is sufficient to change the isotope ratio.
    Best wishes,
    Valeriy Tarasov

  241. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    First, I would like to say that I am aware of the statement in the report in which it is stated they ran the reactor in such a way to ensure continual operation and that their results do not represent the best possible performance of the reactor. However, that does not answer my questions. I hope you can provide additional clarification.

    HANK MILLS: FIND MY ANSWERS BELOW YOUR QUESTIONS ALONG YOUR TEXT IN CAPITAL LETTERS, TO MAKE IT FASTER:

    A few thoughts:

    1 – The previous model of hot-cat tested in the first report could produce similar COPs at far lower temperatures (around 400C) than the new hot cat in the current report. In this report, temperatures of over 1,000C were required just to obtain similar COPs.
    WRONG, READ BETTER THE REPORT

    2 – The output of an E-Cat goes up rapidly with temperature. This is because the emission of infrared power rises quickly at higher temperatures. At 1,200C, much less 1,400C, the hot cat in the first report would have been producing a huge amount of output with a very high COP (probably 10 or higher). In this report, a maximum of around 3.8 was achieved.
    YOU SAY SO, BUT IT IS NOT SO. THE REPORT HAVE TAKEN MEASURES. YOU MUST BASE YOUR CONSIDERATIONS UPON WHAT THE RESULTS ARE, NOT UPON WHAT YOU ASSUME THEY COULD HAVE BEEN. REMIND THAT SHOULD I HAVE 5 BALLS, I COULD BE A PINBALL.

    3 – We have already been told by “cures”, who worked with scientists on the original E-Cat, the reactor wants to “run away” very quickly when heat is applied. I assume it starts to “run away” at temperatures far lower than 1,400C. This means the original E-Cat could have an infinite COP at a lower temperature.
    REMIND THE PINBALL….

    Here are my questions.

    (I would like to clarify that when I say less efficient I mean that at temperatures of 1,200C or higher it seems like the COP of the new model of E-Cat should have been greater than the previous model that obtained the same efficiency at a much lower temperature. In addition, I would like to state, for the record, that the efficiency of your technology can be infinite. We are only discussing a couple specific implementations.)

    1 – Why does the new hot-cat not produce high efficiencies at high temperatures, unlike the previous model of E-Cat?
    READ BETTER THE REPORT

    2 – Is the ONLY answer for question one that they provided constant input power and this lowered the COP to an extent that even a one thousand degree Celsius temperature difference could not overcome?
    NO

    3 – Are there other reasons as well why the new model of reactor is less efficient?
    HANK: PLEASE READ THE REPORT. IT IS NOT AN EASY READING, IT TAKES TIME AND FOCUS, OTHERWISE YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND IT

    4 – Was a truly self sustaining mode of operation, in which the temperature would have remained constant or climbed for lets say half an hour without any electrical input, available to be tested?
    I WAS NOT THERE MOST OF TIME, THE PROFESSORS MADE THE TEST THAT THEY DEEMED OPPORTUNE TO MAKE THEIR MEASUREMENTS, COHERENTLY WITH THE AIM OF THE TEST. IT WAS NOT A COMMERCIAL TEST, WHERE YOU HAVE TO REACH SPECIFIC CONTRACTUAL TARGETS, IT WAS A TEST WHOSE AIM WAS EXQUISITELY SCIENTIFIC: TO CHECK IF THERE WAS OR NOT AN ANOMALOUS PRODUCTION OF ENERGY, BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT, FOR A LONG PERIOD. TO AVOID A LACK OF RELIABILITY, THE TEST HAS BEEN CONDUCTED VERY CONSERVATIVELY. SO IS WRITTEN. PLEASE READ AGAIN AND CAREFULLY AND BE SURE THAT WHILE YOU READ YOU ARE OPEN TO LEARN, NOT BIASED TO FIND CONFIRMATION OF YOUR PRE-EXISTENT CONVINCTION.

    5 – At what temperature range could they have cut off input power and then self sustained, maintaining the same temperature or climbing in temperature for a significant period of time? Please answer this question even if they were not allowed to utilize self sustaining mode.
    SEE ABOVE

    6 – If this test was to validate the technology, the highest possible efficiency and COP would provide the most skeptic-proof evidence: obliterating any false notion of measurement errors. Since this is the case, why did industrial heat provide the testers with a new model of E-Cat that were less efficient than the previous model?
    STUDY THE REPORT. SEE THE RAGONE DIAGRAM

    7 – Would it not have been better to send them additional modules of the previous design so they could have obtained a higher COP?
    SEE ABOVE

    8 – Did you intentionally, to ensure absolute safety and zero possibility of a run away, send them reactors that were produced (perhaps by an adjustment of the fuel) to only be capable of lower efficiency?
    NO

    9 – Do the results they obtained from the new version of the “hot cat” match those produced in your lab?
    WITH THE CONVERSION FACTORS DUE TO THE CONSERVATIVENESS OF THE TEST, YES

    10 – When tested in your lab, does the model of E-Cat used in the current report produce better, the same, or worse efficiencies (COPs) as the model used in the first report when provided the exact same input (in whatever mode tested)?
    I CANNOT GIVE INFORMATION OF WHAT WE DO IN OUR R&D LABORATORIES

    11 – How exactly is the new model of hot cat improved – as said in the report – if the efficiency is lower than what it would be with the previous model at high temperatures? Other than the fact ceramic is used which allows for the device to remain intact for longer periods of time at high temperatures.
    READ BETTER THE REPORT OF 2013 AND THE REPORT OF 2014, THEN MAKE A COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS

    12 — There are individuals saying that after the test the fuel had been melted – according to the electron microscope images – and the reactor would not have been capable of being restarted because the reaction sites would have been destroyed. Would the reactor have been capable of being restarted?
    YES

    13 — Did the fuel they tested come from the charge of the mouse or the cat?
    FROM THE CAT
    WARM REGARDS,
    A.R.

    Thank you,

    Hank Mills

  242. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    Please find the answers below your questions scrolling your your comment.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  243. Andrea Calaon

    Dear Andrea,
    I have one question:
    Did you give them an unprimed rod that you turned on for 10 hours for checking that it worked?
    I guess they stopped the test just before finishing the priming.

    In fact if I am right in the first month or so of operation the matrix and the “rest” undergo rapid transmutations:
    - Li7+e+p -> He4 + H4(non-excited)+photons
    non-excited H4 ->He4+e-+antineut.+photons
    - Li6 +e+p -> He4+t+neutrino+photons
    (Li7 reacts quicker due to the higher magnetic moment …)

    - Ni58+e+p -> Ni59+neutrino+photons
    - Ni59+e+p -> Ni60+neutrino+photons
    - Ni60+e+p -> Ni61 …
    - Ni61+e+p -> Ni62+neutrino+photons
    (Ni61 is disappears quickly because it has actually a “long range” magnetic moment)…
    Tomorrow I will try to detail. I wrote the equations without checking them (masses, energies, …)
    At Ni62 is the end of the story: it has the lowest energy per nucleon.
    Ni64 should not react.
    This is the way you were saying you enriched in Ni62 an Ni64. No centrifuges!

    After the priming the transmutations should be very limited. And the “classical” LENR reactions with protium, deuterium, tritium, H4, He4 … start. The COP should change as well. And not towards lower values.

    Well done Andrea.

    Ciao

    Andrea Calaon

  244. Andrea Rossi

    Andrea Calaon:
    You make all your considerations. As you know, I cannot comment.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  245. Dear Mr. Rossi:

    Many questions have been answered in the paper. But more arise:

    1) Was it originally intended that the paper be released on sifferkoll? Or might
    this be some kind of unintentional leak? And if it was unintended, from what you know is the information contained in the report accurate?

    2) It seems that in the ITP test the content of 58Ni was reduced almost to zero after one month of operation. That leads to a conclusion that maybe some route of conversion of 58Ni to 62Ni may be a significant source of the energy relaeased. But if the E-cat can function for as much as six times longer than the 32 days of the ITP test, then that cannot be right because there would not be any 58Ni available for the next five months.

    3) I had previously thought I had understood that hydrogen was supplied in gaseous form under pressure. But I do not see mention of that in the paper. It seems that it is available only in the form of AlLiH4. Is that correct?

    Please feel free to modify, or completely erase, any of the above questions if you feel discussion of them might not be helpful.

    Again, wonderful (positive?!) news. Congratulations.

    Rodney Nicholson.

  246. Andrea Rossi

    Rodney Nicholson:
    1- I do not know why the Professors of the ITP decided that way to publish. They, as I always said, are totally independent from us. If they did so, means they had a reason for it. The report has been written by them, obviously; today I have contacted their spokesman, who confirmed that the report published is the original version, uncut; the version that will be published in a scientific magazine will have to be reduced within 15 pages. They told me it was necessary a publication with all the 54 pages, because every page has a specific importance.
    2- the charge had been made for a 35 days test. This is the test duration agreed upon when the experiment has been started
    3- I cannot enter in this particular
    Thank you for your attention,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  247. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Congratulations on a positive outcome. I was slightly disappointed that the test was not 6 months but 30+ days is more than sufficient for demonstrating a nuclear level activity. I was also disappointed that the COP was not higher but, for such an important test, I understand the need to be conservative. Better to have a positive test result for such a critical test.

    Now begins the onslaught of the critics…

  248. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Thank you for your words; why onslaught ? The critics that mostly count, at this point, are only the critics of the Customers that buy our plants. Critics that teach us something are useful, while critics that repeat the usual blabla are irrelevant: in any case I do not see any onslaught in the horizon of the E-Cat.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  249. georgehants

    Dear Mr. Rossi, three long years for those of us following your progress, but I think the time may have flown very fast for you being so busy changing the World forever.
    Now we shall see if those with power and influence will allow this technology to be given freely to the people or held back as it has been for many years for political and financial reasons.
    All of science now has a new baby to nurture and help grow to maturity.
    Many congratulations and good luck as always for the future, both yours and the new science of LENR.

  250. Andrea Rossi

    Georgehants:
    Our Team is working to put this technology at work.
    Thank you for your kind words.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  251. Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in October 8th, 2014 at 9:07 PM

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Thank you for your kind expressions. What is beginning is just a period of tough work on R&D.
    ——————————-

    Dear Andrea,
    I know there is a lot of work to do. For instance, there is need to improve your technology so that to get electricity from the eCat.

    However today is a great day, because the controversy is ended.
    In spite of many of us were sure that the eCat works, however many stated that the E-Cat didn’t work.

    It’s a great day of a New Era for mankind.

    regards
    wlad

  252. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    The opposition will continue to say the E-Cat does not work. At this point they are irrelevant, though. The era of this kind of tests is finished, now the focus is exclusively on the plants we sell to Customers and the R&D is focused only on the Customers’ needs.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  253. Wladimir Guglinski

    Dear Eernie,

    also,
    do not forget that Rossi uses a catalyst in his eCat, and without a catalyst the eCat does not work.
    Therefore, if your supposition of the reaction via 3Li7 is really correct, however the mechanism of the extraction of the neutron from the 3Li7 depends on the help of the catalyst.

    Perhaps Rossi does not use any catalyst, and he told a lie, just with the aim to deceive everybody, by putting them very far away on the mystery on how his eCat works.
    But I dont think Rossi said a lie, and I guess he really uses a catalyst.

    Rossi tried several catalysts, and some of them work better than other ones.

    I predicted that the best catalyst to resonate with the structure of Ni is the 52Te:
    http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/How%20repulsive%20gravity%20contributes%20for%20cold%20fusion%20occurrence.pdf

    According to my new nuclear model, the nuclei exhibit a phenomenon (which I named Accordion-Effect): they have shrinkage and expansion like the bellows of an accordion.

    The Accordion-Effect of the nucleus Ni can resonate with the Accordion-Effect of other nucleus (the best resonance occurs with the 52Te).

    In the case your speculation about the extraction of the neutron from the 3Li7 is correct, however probably the resonance between the Accordion-Effect of the Ni and 52Te helps the extraction of the neutron.

    regards
    wlad

  254. Wladimir Guglinski

    eernie1 wrote in October 8th, 2014 at 3:42 PM

    1) ————————————-
    This neutron may exist as a Halo neutron which is located approximately 7 times further from the cluster than any of the other nucleons and thereby much more loosely bound to the nucleus by the strong force since the force falls off rapidly with distance.
    —————————————

    Eernie,
    There is no experimental evidence for such assumption.
    The halo neutron with 7 times further from the cluster was detected experimentally for the 4Be11, but not for the 3Li7.

    The halo neutron of the 4Be11 has an orbit with radius 7fm, and therefore it is a proof that the strong force is not the cause of the aggregation of the nuclei, since the strong force does not actuate in distances longer than 3fm.

    .

    2)————————————–
    (3) The 7Li atom has a neutron which seems to be excessive when examined in accepted nuclear cluster theory. This neutron may exist as a Halo neutron which is located approximately 7 times further from the cluster than any of the other nucleons and thereby much more loosely bound to the nucleus by the strong force since the force falls off rapidly with distance.
    ———————————————

    Dear Eernie,
    the structure of the 3Li7, according to my new nuclear model, is shown n the Figure 13, page 17, of my paper Stability of Light Nuclei, published in JoNP:
    http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/Stability%20of%20light%20nuclei.pdf

    What you say makes sense by looking at the structure of 3Li7 shown in the Figure 13.

    The neutron has spin-interaction with the deuteron, while the centripetal force Fc tries to expell both the deuteron and the neutron, but the magnetic force Fm pulls the deuteron toward the central 2He4, and as the neutron is tied to the deuteron via the spin-interaction, the neutron is kept in the 3Li7.

    .

    3)—————————————-
    (4)The amount of external energy necessary to strip this neutron from the 7Li atom producing a 6Li atom can be applied through thermal sources since the strong force has a small retaining force on the neutron.
    ——————————————

    Eernie,
    perhaps the extraction of the neutron from the 3Li7 can be caused by the oscillatory electromagnetic field applied in the eCat (maybe the spin-interaction deuteron-neutron can be affected by the oscillatory emf).

    Other hypothesis is to suppose that the rotation of the nucleus 3Li7 can be incresead by the application of the oscilatory electromagnetic field used by Andrea Rossi. Because the deuteron has a positive electric charge, and it is orbiting the central 2He4, and so perhaps an external electromagnetic field can change the rotation of the nucleus 3Li7. By increasing the velocity of the rotation of the 3Li7, the centripetal force on the neutron increases, and it is expelled from the 3Li7.

    regards
    wlad

  255. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Thank you for your kind expressions. What is beginning is just a period of tough work on R&D.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  256. Alessandro Coppi

    Grande Andrea Rossi, qualche volta come tanti ho dubitato, ma ero sicuro che la oltre le colonne ci fosse un nuovo mondo, tu hai ci portato frutti nuovi, che come le patate sfameranno il pianeta per i secoli a venire.

    Un saluto in italiano, una volta tanto.
    Ciao Andrea, grazie per la tua tenacia.

  257. Andrea Rossi

    Alessandro Coppi:
    Grazie!
    Cari saluti,
    A.R.

  258. Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi, I want to add my congratulations to the many other.
    I know this is only the first step.
    I will be very happy to watch you climb every wonderful step to the very top.
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA
    P.S. I am with Gherardo on the Nobel.

  259. Andrea Rossi

    Robert Curto:
    Thank you, but to reach the highest international recognition I still have to give evidence of a commercial breakthrough. A huge work has still to be done.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  260. Bernie Koppenhofer

    Congratulations Dr Rossi, now the only thing we need is the customer announcing he will save millions using your E-cat!

  261. Andrea Rossi

    Bernie Koppenhofer:
    it is exactly the target we have now.
    Thank you.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  262. Wladimir Guglinski

    Dears followers of the JoNP

    So, finally the coroner officially declared that the body of the deceased is really dead.

    The eCat works

    Rossi survived

    And a New Era of humanity begins

    regards
    wlad

  263. Robert Curto

    Mark Fouchi, in your post you said cancer was another passion of yours.
    I am very interested in cancer patients and cancer research.
    If your want to you can send me an email, you may want to know what I am
    doing.
    BOBBYCURTO@WEBTV.NET

    Bobby
    Ft. Lauderdale

  264. Peter Wolstenholme

    Dr. Rossi:
     Congratulations: the report was issued at around the time you forecast, and it ought to raise considerable interest, although I suppose that many prominent scientists will pretend it does not exist.
    A C.O.P  -  which I prefer to call energy gain factor to distinguish it from heat pumps where the C.O.P. has a very different meaning -  of around 3.6 is of course not ideal in practical terms, because in many countries natural gas heating  costs around 30% of the cost of electrical heating. There are clearly at least two ways around this, apart from trying to heat the e-cat with natural gas. Firstly it is clear that operating at a higher temperature can increase the energy gain factor. Secondly some sort of cascading system, whereby one e-cat heats another one, could give a factor over 10. Would a triple cascade be possible, for really stunning results?  You have already written about the cat-and-mouse system, without explaining how it functions, so we are all awaiting news on that topic, which you may be able to release in the coming months.
      Regards,
         Peter Wolstenholme.

  265. Andrea Rossi

    Peter Wolstenholme:
    Let me study and understand throughly the Report.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  266. Carlo Marcena

    Great!!!
    CM

  267. Andrea Rossi

    Carlo Marcena:
    Thank you!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  268. A STUNNING (dare I say “positive”?) result.

    Congratulations.

    Rodney.

  269. Dear Andrea,

    Great news for you and your team (and for the whole world), champagne congratulations! Most interesting new public information was certainly in the chapter concerning fuel and ash analysis.

    The report was based on 32 days test run. Is there still longer term third party test run planned or even going on right now ?

    kind regards

    V. Kanninen

  270. Andrea Rossi

    V. Kanninen:
    Our R&D work will never end.
    Now our work is focused on the 1 MW plant supplied to the Customer, the Third Party par excellence: if it does not work he does not pay!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  271. RobertoM

    NOW THE “NEW FIRE” IS REALLY ON !!!!!
    GREAT ANDREA!
    MANY COMPLIMENTS AND THE BEST FOR YOUR FUTURE!

  272. Andrea Rossi

    Roberto M.:
    Thank you!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  273. Lorenzo Stella

    Dear Ing. Rossi, let me congratulate you, for the report of the 32 days test. I’m so excited that I’m writing this even before reading the full report. This is the BIGGEST DAY for all of us human being.
    Congratulazioni infinite, il coraggio e l’ insistenza focalizzata vincono sempre.

    LS

  274. Andrea Rossi

    Lorenzo Stella:
    Thank you!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  275. BroKeeper

    Congratulations Andrea. Your low morning input prayers resulted in very high output, perhaps COP=Infinity. :)

  276. Andrea Rossi

    BroKeeper:
    He,he,he..yes,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  277. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    I cant resist the temptation to be the first to offer a scenario for your effect based on the ash report. If the ash does contain the purported isotopes resulting from the reaction starting from the reported fuel combinations, there are a few conclusions that can be made. (1) Obviously the 62Ni must be produced through neutron capture by the 58,59,60 and61Ni atoms which are all neutron deficient. (2) the neutrons must be thermal neutrons and can only come from the 7Li atoms. (3) The 7Li atom has a neutron which seems to be excessive when examined in accepted nuclear cluster theory. This neutron may exist as a Halo neutron which is located approximately 7 times further from the cluster than any of the other nucleons and thereby much more loosely bound to the nucleus by the strong force since the force falls off rapidly with distance.(4)The amount of external energy necessary to strip this neutron from the 7Li atom producing a 6Li atom can be applied through thermal sources since the strong force has a small retaining force on the neutron. The neutron thus is ejected from the 7Li atom and assumes the thermal energy plus half of the strong force energy(recoil energy) and enters a neutron deficient Ni atom such as the 58Ni creating a 59Ni which can receive another thermal neutron to produce a 60Ni until it becomes a 62Ni which is one of the most stable species of isotopes because of the nucleon bonds it possesses. The process is exothermal because the neutrons contain both the thermal energy and the portion of the strong force energy which is finally expelled by the 62Ni to equilibrate its nuclear energy balance. Thus we comply with the law of conservation of energy.
    More details as I think further about possible mechanisms. This is my first stab at it.
    Congratulations, there was no doubt in my mind that you had a viable device.
    Successful regards.

  278. Andrea Rossi

    Thank you, Giuseppe!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  279. Dear Mr Rossi a very well deserved result, I am just a simple engineer and connect wait to get my hands on a ECAT system and start design systems with it as it was intended. Do you have a time line of when the 1MW Ecats will start rolling off the production line and do you have any special design considerations when incorporating it external heating and power systems. The temps that they achieved in the report make the ECAT useful for electricity generation (as you well know) and do you see higher COP’s than stated in the report.
    Again thank you for bring this to the world

  280. Valeriy Tarasov

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    Congratulation with very important publication!
    One more thing I would like to mention here (I have written this as an idea on e-catworld.com forum before). For me, the paper confirmed that thermal effect in your e-cat results from the decay of litium 7 producing alpha particle which are absorbed by surrounding material and that give the thermal effect. In result of that you have no radioactivity outside.
    Best wishes,
    Valeriy Tarasov

  281. Andrea Rossi

    Valeriy Tarasov:
    I cannot enter in this. In the report is written what has been found.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  282. Davide C.

    Well, better than I thought. And without running the device at the maximum potential, neither in the self sustaining mode. GREAT
    I would like to know which is the real limit.
    BTW Compliments, the world owe you one!

  283. Anders Lundell

    Dear Andrea Rossi!

    Congratulations!
    I belive this is good news for the world.

    Best regards
    Anders

  284. Andrea Rossi

    Anders Lundell:
    Thank you: it will be good news if the plants will work properly. We gotta work, now: the cow is harnessed, now has to pull.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  285. Gherardo

    Dott.Rossi,
    my best compliments for the achieved result.
    You knew it but the reality is true only when shared and now it is.
    Those days nominations for the Nobel prizes are beeing announced and my best hope for you is that you’ll achieve that overdue Nobel prize.
    For the humanity the hope is that this breakthrough will fully unfold and will not be blocked or delayed by opposing economic forces.

    Complimenti ! ma non ci dimentichiamo di lavolale !!! :-)
    Gherardo

  286. Andrea Rossi

    Gherardo:
    Now comes the most difficult part of the work: industrialization in a permanent R&D process. It is beginning with the 1 MW baby, but this is the beginning, not the end, of a very hard work.
    Lavolale, lavolale!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  287. Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Andrea.
    October seems to remain E-cat-month.
    Do you call this ITP report positive or negative ? And why ?

    This test was in idling mode, without a flow of steam. From the report we learn that the e-cat works more performant at higher power: 100Watt more input resulted in 700Watt more output. Will you publish some numbers (max COP in driven mode) of your own heavy-duty tests now ?

    On page 5, top picture, the power analyzer shows the switching of the triacs. Power is ON for some peaks and OFF during the rest of time. It is about 1/3 – 2/3 ON/OFF. Is this driven and self-sustain, or is this driven mode ? The voltages and frequencies are “OL”. I understand that some secrecy has to remain.

    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  288. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    Let me read and study carefully the report: I was supposed to receive it several days before the publication, but I saw it this morning, published in a very surprising way. It is complex. Let me elaborate.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  289. Michael S

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    My most sincere congratulations !

    You must be relieved – especially not having to write “positive or negative results” any more ;-)

    But I can’t resist also asking questions arising:
    - where there not more scientists involved ? Did some refuse to subscribe the report ?
    - in my understanding the test run was to last 6 months ?

    Best regards to you on this very special day,

    Michael

    Ps. Had I wanted to slightly keep areas of doubt in the report, maybe to borrow some time, I would not have done otherwise.

  290. Andrea Calaon

    Finally I have the chance to sit in front of the computer and write:
    Congratulations to you and your team Andrea!
    Well done!

    I have a few questions, but I will ask them after reading the report carefully.

    Warm Regards

    Andrea Calaon

  291. Andrea Rossi

    Andrea Calaon:
    Thank you for your kind words, also from our Team!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  292. fabio82

    Andrea, grazie di cuore! Per me sei un modello di determinazione ed integrita’.
    Fabio

  293. Andrea Rossi

    Fabio82:
    Thank you!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  294. Dear Andrea Rossi
    congratulations on the wonderful results . This is huge success.
    Pavel Vrbovsky

  295. Andrea Rossi

    Pavel Vrbovsky:
    Thank you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  296. Giuseppe

    Dear Andrea,
    Congratulation to the achievement of the long-awaited result!
    Giuseppe

  297. Gianvico

    Grande Andrea GRANDE!!!
    Con infinito affetto e gioia
    Gianvico

  298. Andrea Rossi

    Gianvico:
    Grazie, Architetto.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  299. gian

    Ho atteso pazientemente 3 anni. Valeva la pena.

    L’Italia così spesso ridicolarizzata ha grazie

    ad un Grande Italiano la sua rivincita.

    Grazie Andrea. Iddio benedica Te e la tua opera.

    Gian

  300. Andrea Rossi

    Gian:
    Thank you, very kind words. But this is the beginning of the war, not the end.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  301. Andrea Rossi

    Malcom Lear:
    Yes, it has been released from the ITP very surprisingly, but now the publication has been done and everybody can read it in full and uncut version.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  302. Gian Luca

    “This amount of energy is far more than can be obtained from any known chemical sources in the small reactor volume”

    This is sufficient for all people that respect the ECAT

    Thanks a lot Mr. Rossi and Mr Focardi

    G.Luca

  303. Andrea Rossi

    Gian Luca:
    Thank you also from Prof. Focardi.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  304. Dima Redko

    Dear Andrea,
    how do you eveluate the results described in the report? Is it a success or not?

  305. Andrea Rossi

    Dima Redko:
    The important is not if it is a success or not, the important is that it worked. Now an enormous amount of work Waits for us to develope the technology.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  306. Martyn Aubrey

    Excellent News!!!

    Many Congratulations Andrea, to you and your team, on this very supportive report (I’m still reading it).

    The size of the new reactor is very small. Surely, this must mean that the 1MW plant will be quite compact – Brilliant!

    Looking forward to any more news to come.

    Happy Regards,
    Martyn

  307. Andrea Rossi

    Martyn Aubrey:
    Thank you!
    Yes, the Hot Cat based 1 MW plants will be very small.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  308. manfred

    Dear Mr. Rossi!

    Congratulations on the publication of the remarkable new 3rd party report!!!
    Just want to let you know that the link you posted
    http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/
    returns “Forbidden page”. You might want to correct that by adjusting the link to
    http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/LuganoReportSubmit.pdf

    All the best,
    Manfred

  309. Andrea Rossi

    Manfred:
    You are right!!! I wrote an incomplete address, it was the emotion, because I was not expecting it. It has been a big surprise, also because I did not expect that publication…I know the length of the report created difficulties to other publishers and the Professors wanted not to cut the report. Probably they have chosen this solution to be fast and complete. They wanted to be independent to the last, so I was totally not expecting this. I have been informed of this publication this morning at 8 a.m. from a bloggist, while I was going to see my 1MW baby.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  310. Mark Saker

    Great News Andrea,

    I’m very pleased for you! Fingers crossed this gets the attention it deserves, perhaps a nice little photo of the 1MW plant (prior to installation if you don’t want to give away client details) will help to put the icing on the cake?

    well done you clever clever man!

  311. Andrea Rossi

    Mark Saker:
    Maybe, yes, maybe… be patient.
    Thank you for your kind attention.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  312. Stan Lippmann

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    Congratulations on the successful results. Do you have a theory for how the transmutations work? Are you able to share this information yet?
    Thanks,
    Stan in Shenzhen

  313. Giannino Ferro Casagrande

    GRAZIE ANDREA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  314. Andrea Rossi

    Giannino Ferro Casagrande:
    Thanks to you and to all for your attention to our work! This result comes from the work of all our great Team.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  315. renatoestri

    Dear Andrea,
    warmest congratulations for the Positive Report results :
    (page 30)
    “In summary, the performance of the E-Cat reactor is remarkable.
    We have a device giving heat energy compatible with nuclear transformations,
    but it operates at low energy and gives neither nuclear radioactive waste nor emits radiation.”

    Highly conservative COP calculated: > 3,2

    An huge success, what to say more ?
    Best compliments !

  316. Andrea Rossi

    Renatoestri:
    Thank you!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  317. Dave K

    Congratulations! You have worked hard and persevered! Enjoy this moment!

    Dave

  318. Andrea Rossi

    Dave K:
    …and more work is coming.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  319. Marc Fouchi

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    Congratulations on another milestone on your amazing journey!

    I have been following you since 2011, and I have become more and more passionate about your work. I strongly believe in your mission, and I love that it will also benefit families in their battles with cancer – another passion of mine.

    The eCat is too important for me to sit on the sidelines and watch. I must get involved somehow. I have sent an email to info@leonardocorp1996.com to inquire how I can help change the world.

    Sincerely,
    Marc Fouchi

  320. Andrea Rossi

    Marc Fouchi:
    Thank you!
    Warm Regards,
    Andrea Rossi

  321. Martin

    Dear Andrea,

    Many many congratulations with te good results of the ITP test!!

    Early follower

    Martin

  322. Andrea Rossi

    Martin:
    Thank you!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  323. Andrea Rossi

    Thorbjorn:
    Thank you!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  324. Tom Conover

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Am I understanding correctly in the report that the (dummy) reactor without a charge in it output (~456 watts) the same amount of power as input (~455 watts)?

    A) yes
    B) no
    C) the report says what it says …

    Thank you for your kindness in replying to questions in this blog!

    Sincerely,

    Tom Conover

    ———————————-
    The report text is quoted below:

    “Page 20:
    Let us now compare this dissipated power with the power supply, the average of which over 23 hours of test is = (486 ± 24) W (uncertainty here is 5% of average, calculated as standard deviation). Keeping in mind the Joule heating of the power cables discussed in paragraph 4.3, we have the following results:
    Power supply (W) Joule heating (W) Actual input (W) Output (W)486 ± 24 7 486 – 7 = 479 ± 24 446 ± 10
    If we take error percentages into account, we will see that where input is at minimum possible value (455 W) and output at maximum possible value (456 W), our method overestimates by about 1 W, i.e. 0.2%. Vice versa, where input is at maximum possible value (503 W) and output at minimum possible value (436 W) our method underestimates the power supplied to the reactor by about 67 W, i.e. 14%.
    We can therefore rely on the fact that applying the very same procedure to data gathered from the E-Cat test does not lead to any significant overestimation; rather, there is a good chance that the power actually generated by the reactor is underestimated.

    Page 26:
    Considering that we do not know the internal structure of the reactor, and therefore cannot completely rule out that there were other charges inside it besides the one weighed and inserted by us, we may repeat the above calculations taking the weight of the entire reactor (452 ± 1 g) into consideration:
    (1618194 / 0.452) = (3580075 ± 10%) [Wh/kg] = (3.6· 106
    ± 10%) [Wh/kg] =
    = (1.3· 104
    ± 10%) [MJ/kg] (31)
    (3580075 / 768) = (4661 ± 10%) [W/kg] = (4.7· 103
    ± 10%) [W/kg] (32)
    Even if taken from this extremely conservative point of view, the reactor lies beyond the limits of the above Ragone plot. ”
    ———————————-

  325. Andrea Rossi

    Tom Conover:
    Thank you for your attention.
    C
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  326. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Congratulations on another report that demonstrates the reality of your invention!

    One question: The reactor we see in the report — is this the cat, the mouse, or the cat and mouse combined?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  327. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Thank you.
    All combined,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  328. Claudio

    Dear Andrea, before going any further I wish to send lot of congratulations to you.

    C.R.

  329. Andrea Rossi

    Claudio:
    Thank you!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  330. Andrea Rossi

    TO THE READERS:
    TODAY ON THE JOURNAL OF NUCLEAR PHYSICS HAS BEEN PUBLISHED THE PAPER “BCC LATTICE MODEL FOR NUCLEAR STRUCTURE” BY DR GAMAL A. NASSER, MANSURA UNIVERSITY, EGYPT.
    JoNP

  331. Thorbjörn

    Congratulations!

    Warm Regards,
    TM

  332. Malcolm Lear

    No matter how it was released, it seems a positive result, so may I be amongst the first to congratulate you Andrea :-)
    Cheers,
    Malcolm

  333. Andrea Rossi

    To all the Readers of the Journal of Nuclear Physics:
    The Report of the Independent Third Party has been published on
    http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/LuganoReportSubmit.pdf
    Warm Regards
    Andrea Rossi

  334. Malcolm Lear

    Hi Andrea,
    It seems the report is now released, is it official or a leaked early version?
    Cheers,
    Malcolm

  335. pg

    A copy of the 3rd Party Report has somehow been unofficially released and is now posted at the web site Sifferkol.se

    Link: http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/LuganoReportSubmit.pdf

    Key findings: COP of COP of 3.2-3.6 over a 32 day period and isotopic change in nickel and lithium was found to have changed substantially after run.

  336. silvio caggia

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    In case of input power failure, how is the automatic shutdown of e-cat achieved?
    A) by a completely passive system
    B) by a low power backup system, only for powering controllers till the complete shutdown of the reactor
    C) by a high power backup system to supply the full input power for the short time necessary to complete shutdown
    Regards

  337. Andrea Rossi

    Silvio Caggia:
    All the options are available.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  338. Peter Forsberg

    I hope you are right Andrea. You have the same optimism as my own father in this subject matter. :)

    Good luck with the upcoming ITP-report.

    Regards

    Peter

  339. Andrea Rossi

    Peter Forsberg:
    Thank you!
    About the ITP report, we all are very anxious.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  340. silvio caggia

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    What would be happened if, during the six months long third party test, the input power had failed?
    A) runaway till melting
    B) automatic shutdown
    C) normal stable functioning
    And what would be happened when input power had come back?
    A) short circuit
    B) system restart
    C) normal stable functioning
    Do you know if third party testers had experienced or simulated this condition?
    Regards

  341. Andrea Rossi

    Silvio Caggia:
    1-B
    2-B
    I do not know if it happened.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  342. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Consider if the nickel particles within an eCat reactor were not spherical but had small nodules or cylinders. Say, if the average nickel particle size was 10 microns but each cylinder has the equivalent of a diameter of 2 nanometers. These might be what is referred to as NAE or nuclear active environments.

    On each nickel particle there might be several million small 2 nanometer diameters cylinders. These NAE cylinders would, of course, melt when a nuclear event occurred on or within them, because of their small amount of mass to absorb the nuclear energy. This would eventually remove a portion of the total number of these NAE cylinders. However, if the percentage removed was small over the six month operating period of the eCat reactor, then the eCat control system would still be able to achieve a constant thermal output.

    Of course, the spent fuel could be melted and reprocessed or commercially sold. If one of the nickel isotopes was more favorably consumed in the eCat reaction, then new “virgin” nickel might be used instead of reprocessing the used fuel. Perhaps you should consider some form of surface treatment in your eCat fuel processing? Maybe a simple analysis is in order to look at this possibility.

  343. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    I am not able to answer you; maybe Orsobubu is.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  344. Wladimir Guglinski

    Dear Gamal A. Nasser

    All the even-even nuclei with Z=N are stable, except the 4Be8.

    There is not explanation for the unstability of the 4Be8 by considering the current models of the Standard Nuclear Physics.

    How do you explain why 4Be8 is not stable?

    I did not see the structure of the 4Be8 in your paper

    regards
    wlad

  345. Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi, Proesa produces Ethanol, and enough energy to run the Plant.
    The Company Biochemtex, and the first Plant are located in Italy.
    Google:
    Proesa
    Scroll down to:
    (PDF) Download-Biochemtey
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA

  346. eernie1

    Bill,
    From a scientific aspect other than absorption or reflection, we were starting to explore the concept of surface plasmon polaritons(SPP)for use in the stealth program. The field was relatively new(1957) but seemed promising because we had an ideal situation, a metal conductor(free crystal electrons),against a dielectric medium(air). The concept had interest for us because incoming EM waves could be not only reflected at different angles from the incoming wave but the frequencies could also be altered. Since Nano technology was also being developed and showed in many experiments to be a viable material for reproduction of the effect(Nanoplasmotics), we were exploring theories that could be applied to our problem. The theory worked in the Nano scale because the size of the particles corresponded to the wavelengths of the infrared and visible spectrum. The question was how to reproduce the 3cm to mm sized structures(3GHz and beyond)corresponding to the sizes of the wavelengths used in radar systems. Ideas such as crosshatching the surfaces,or depositing materials containing individual crystals of the right size were proposed. However at this juncture,I left for greener pastures and lost contact with further developments.
    I suppose there were many other proposals submitted for other approaches to manipulating the incoming RF. Exciting period of time.
    Regards

  347. Peter Forsberg

    Dear Andrea,

    You are right that there is no direct link between the Ebola epidemic and the evolution of the ECat. And I hope that you are right that a vaccine is developed in time.

    But if not, I am afraid that the disease will spread wildly throughout the whole world and extreme amounts of people will die, even in Italy and Sweden for example.

    When the Black Death hit London almost 60% of the population died. But that was in a time when society was more robust. More people were farmers and energy production was not centralized. If Ebola can spread unchecked through society nowadays society as we know it might well totally collapse.

    For those that do survive it would be good if the ECat could be a viable alternative to produce energy. It would help in the possibility to rebuild society.

    Regards

    Peter Forsberg

  348. Andrea Rossi

    Peter Forsberg:
    Now I understand your thought. I am not that pessimistic, though…When the Black Death hit London the medical science was practically not existent, today the time to react properly to a new desease is much shorter. I think that, luckily, the reasons to work hard on the E-Cat are more positive, just raise the level of the life quality of People.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  349. Curiosone

    What is the “Strangeness” ( Stranezza) in elementary particles?
    Thank you for your usual patience.
    W.G.

  350. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    Strangeness is a characteristic of elementary particles with mass and decay time substantially superior than the normality.
    S = y-B
    where :
    y is the hypercharge, it is the 2nd average charge of the multiplet of elementary particles
    B is the barionic number ( 0 if the e.p. is not a barion, 1 if it is).
    Strangeness is conserved.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  351. Curiosone

    Dr Rossi:
    Can you say which COP is reached by the 1 MW plant?
    W.G.

  352. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    All the publicable data regarding the 1 MW plant will be released in due time, after at least one year of operation.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  353. JCRenoir

    Dr Rossi, today there were around rumors that the report had to be published today: any comment?
    JCR

  354. Andrea Rossi

    JCRenoir:
    I have not information about that.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  355. JCRenoir

    Dr Rossi:
    Do you know where the report of the ITP will be published?
    JCR

  356. Andrea Rossi

    JCRenoir:
    No, I do not know where the TPR will be published.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  357. DTravchenko

    Is it true that for the publication it will be necessary another month for a supplement of reviewing?
    Warm Regards,
    DT

  358. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    The 1 MW plant now is the only thing I am focused on, also because it is too an R&D battlefield.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  359. DTravchenko

    At this time are you more engaged in R&D or in the 1 MW plant of the customer?
    Warm Regards,
    DT

  360. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    I do not know.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  361. Dear Andrea and Pekka,

    A small clarifying comment to Pekka Janhunen concerning the mechanism of fast moving electrons in thunderstorms having less time to coulombically interact with other particles, and that a similar mechanism is making radiation therapy possible (your message October 5th).

    External radiation therapy given by a linear accelerator (linac) can be done either by using electron beam (charged particles) or photon beam (non-charged i.e. gamma radiation). Linear accelerator for radiation therapy accelerates electrons: photon beams are generated by rapidly decelerating electrons in a collimator which produces x-ray/gamma-ray spectrum via bremsstrahlung radiation.

    Electron beams in the usually used energy range of 4-20 MeV do deposit most of its energy not in the skin, but somewhat deeper. However, not really very deep, but in the depth of only 1-5 cm, depending on the energy. When the electrons have left the linac accelerator part, there is no more accelerating electric field. Thus when electrons enter to the patient, collisions cause the electrons rather rapidly lose energy. Electron beams are used to treat tumors rather close to skin.

    Photon beams are usually used in the energy range 4-25 MeV, and most of their energy is naturally transferred much deeper. In practice, photon beams are used much more often than electron beams. Thus saying that a similar mechanism is making radiation therapy possible is valid for radiation therapy where electron beams or other charged particles (like proton) are used, but not exactly so when we talk about the currently most commonly used photon beams.

    kind regards

    V. Kanninen

  362. Andrea Rossi

    V. Kanninen:
    Thank you for your clarification.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  363. Peter Forsberg

    Dear Andrea,

    How are you going to safeguard your invention against the threat of society collapsing due to the ebola epidemic? If the current exponential spread continues, what will happen is something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7GXAxnfiq8

    And everything will be over within one to two years. (Calculated with a realistic figure of approximately 20 000 infected individuals to date and a factor of between 2 and 2.4 increase of number of infected per month).

    I know that you liked the movie world war Z. So did I. But this time it is for real, unless vaccines can be developed much faster than usual.

    Regards

    Peter Forsberg

  364. Andrea Rossi

    Peter Forsberg:
    Yes, the scenario is scaring, but the race to make a vaccine is also strong. I am not able to understand in which sense my invention is connected with the epidemic, I think they are two totally different trails. Can you explain where you see a link between these two apparently unconnected fields?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  365. Gian Luca

    Dear A.R.
    in Italy one of the theories about TPR is the one that will be a very positive report but
    soft. In particular, we think that it will be declared a political COP (lower than what is actually found).
    You can no longer deny the LENR but you will look for a way to introduce the ECAT device in such a manner as not to create imbalances in the economy of that country (Russia, Arab countries … west-central Africa, USA) where the petroleum producing income is not easily re-convertible.
    Thought to be a possible scenario? What is your opinion?
    Best regards
    Luca

  366. Andrea Rossi

    Gian Luca:
    Disregard any theory regarding the Third Party report: there are not theories about the report, there will be a report that will publish precise measurements and that will be all, positive or negative as the results might be.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  367. JCRenoir

    I read the book of Mats Lewan ” An Impossible Invention”: what do you think of this book?
    JCR

  368. Andrea Rossi

    JCRenoir:
    No.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  369. JCRenoir

    Dr Rossi:
    Is Global Symmetry responsible for bearing the forces?
    JCRenoir

  370. Andrea Rossi

    JC Renoir:
    As usual, much ado for nothing.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  371. Bill Nichols

    Eernie1:

    Thanks for your words of support. Doesn’t matter if its Vietnam, Desert Storm, Granada, Afghanistan or Iraq…the real goal is “winning the peace”.

    The Saudi’s I worked with in F-117 ops with DESERT STORM found wanted a better world for all of us, just as we did.

    Gen. Washington knew it, Gen. Eisenhower knew it and both spoke eloquently of it and the horrors of war. We must learn to solve things.

  372. eernie1

    Bill,
    Here is a fact that most people do not realize. In recorded history there has never been a period of 60 years where the ratio of war casualties to population was lower. I think that the patrols conducted by you air jockeys(respectful tag) had a big part in accomplishing this. You should be proud and the rest of the world should be grateful for the many long hours spent in providing the deterrent that made this possible.

  373. eernie1

    Bill,
    Pushed the wrong button. To continue, the team had to work through the night to finish the proposal and while I was there my first daughter was born. The team suggested that I name her the B1 bomber.

  374. eernie1

    Bill,
    The B1 was successful because it proved that stealth techniques could work. Of course because it was the first model, Andrea and you can testify to the many bugs that can arise when a device is put out into the real world. Just like the first airplane produced by The Wright Brothers we had to start somewhere.
    Bob, Hallicrafters was the leading designer developer of countermeasure equipment used by the AF not only in the RF bands but also in the Infra Red area to divert the sidewinder type missiles. We also did some work on over the horizon radar. This is why in the 1960′s Northrop purchased the company from Bill Halligan. As an amusing anecdote, the team I was part of proposing the program we were submitting to the AF

  375. George

    Dear Engineer Rossi, I wanted to let you know that today in Milan met ministers for Energy and the Environment of the European Union on the issue of energy efficiency.
    In the long term, the EU intends to achieve the goal of energy savings of 30% through the encouragement of the use of district heating.
    This is the best time to exit the Hot Cat in Europe. Good luck for the upcoming report.

    http://www.edilportale.com/news/2014/10/risparmio-energetico-e-sostenibilita/energia-le-strategie-ue-per-ridurre-i-consumi-del-30-entro-il-2030_41753_27.html

  376. Andrea Rossi

    George:
    Thank you for the information.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  377. Roberto

    Dear Andrea,
    waiting for the report we are now discussing, on my opinion, about the sex of angels, we should just wait and imagine that it is positive.

    It could also be negative, but in the assumption that it is positive how are you preparing?

    Are you aware that your life will have a radical change, many people will be happy glimpsing opportunities for business growth, the earth will be grateful as we reduce pollution; but so many other people will be against you, many economies and whole countries will be bankrupt immediately because of the collapse in oil prices.

    You will need to have very broad shoulders to support all this.

    I’ll give you my best wishes.
    Roberto

  378. Andrea Rossi

    Roberto:
    I just think that, if positive, it will integrate in the energy system.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  379. Bill Nichols

    Eernie1:

    No problem with the big ego in AF. Everyone had to fight for their money and program. Professionalism, competence, integrity and wisdom is what I saw that inspired me and others I worked with. Trust and credibility is the foundation that must not be compromised. Just hard-working quality folks that I worked with. A privileged memory.

    The higher the stakes, more the stress. Involved in stuff bigger than any new platform. Still can remember faces of the 4 stars on some issues discussed. They were just people, but humans with strengths and flaws…as we all are.

    Sounds like Gen Macfollin was typical of the above.

  380. Bill Nichols

    Eeerie1,

    No. The B-1 was the first semi-stealth plane in Stealth arena with serious issues I worked after grounded and going to AFIT to get Master’s in mid 1980s. If the name Mcfollin came up, I don’t recall. The B-1 is OK as a first order platform but had serious issues. Ppresident Reagen wanted It…not the USAF as was told to me routinely by higher ups. The serious flaws of B-1 was a takeaway we were given to push on the B-2 and Congress was on board to fix…the called them “showstoppers” which was correct. The F-117A was in-between B-1 and B-2, development in NV. This was in the 1980s military buildup as we called it, this was a chess match with the USSR (first row seat). There was the F-117A…B-2…other platforms…Star Wars (SDI)…EOTDA’s..XXX’s. The human energy was something will never forget.

    Can tell you know some basic Stealth fundamentals. Just think 2nd…3rd order phenomena extensions and interactions. Then take weather. We are all product of our experiences, we all have strengths to brings. Good organizations bring the best out in the people so the sum is truly greater better than parts. You may be able to better relate then some why I use the ill defined concepts (in my definition) of coherence, radiance and harmonics. Like a very rough sea with almost countless size(s) of waves. Take an occasional “peak” of phasing…get some unique signatures. Such as Andrea Rossi asked.

    If you worked B1 RF…then you know the sophisticated equipment and multi-frequence sensors onboard…only slightly better than upgraded B-52 attm. I then used the on board triple INS/BNS system atmospheric conditions to adjust each RF system. Are you aware of the E-M counter-measures the EWO would use? Atmosphere issues/adjustments. Tricks learned playing to infer “action at a distance” phenomena that was not explainable at the time. Only “fun” part of the job, not happy the more qualified I became, the more people I would vaporize. Line 1 alert…over a million. I rationalized it has a bridge to a better world for all of us. Look at the challenges today? Sadness…

    Went to Wright-Patterson AFB a lot for many years.

  381. eernie1

    Bill,
    Did you ever cross paths with General Rollin Olin Macfollin out of Wright Patterson? In the 1960s, he was designated the AF project head of the B1 stealth bomber. When I was a member of the research department of the Hallicrafters Co. We did a lot of preliminary RF reflection studies from different materials and at different reflective angles of incoming radiation which was used to design the bombers external shape. He had a big ego with respect to his position in the AF but almost no ego when it came to his involvement with the engineering phases. Just the perfect type of person to head an important project of this type. Hands off the engineering and keep the politicians at bay. Needless to say the project was one of the most successful I had ever worked in.

  382. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Thank you for this pearl.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  383. Dear Andrea,
    You have said that your 1 MW plant needs to run for 1 year before considering it success. However, all energy producing plants have some downtime. Do you have a specific downtime limit, such as max 1 percent, which the plant must meet? (Probably the limit itself is a business secret, but I’m just curious if some definite limit has been agreed upon with the customer.)
    r:/pekka

  384. Andrea Rossi

    Pekka Janhunen:
    Sorry, the terms of the contract are confidential.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  385. Marco

    Dear Andrea,

    regarding the comments of John L on October 4th and your reply: molten salts can help stabilize the reaction, especially for the hot cat, because probabily they have higher termic capacity than steam at 550C. A main circuit with molten salts, eventually with a big reservoir, as in solar termic plants, and a secondary circuit for the steam can give a stable, smooth and sustained operation for the hot cat, and probabily you can even put them in parallel without troubles, giving the smoothing behaviour of the high capacity molten salts reservoir.

    Best Regards,
    Marco.

  386. Andrea Rossi

    Marco:
    Thank you.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  387. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    Thank you for your kind words. It is people like you who discover and develop new and once considered difficult principles of science who keep me young.
    Fond regards.

  388. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Thank you
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  389. Alessandro Coppi

    Hi Andrea, you wrote something with capital letters: “I still do not have AVAILABLE information to give”.
    Is 12 october a good day in your opinion for an announce of a discovery?

    Terra!!!
    Alessandro Coppi

  390. Andrea Rossi

    Alessandro Coppi:
    Really, as soon as I will have available information I will be happy (or maybe unhappy) to give it to our Readers.
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  391. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    The Majorana fermion concept is as old as I(1930), and is similar to the epo(electron- positron) of Dirac and the particle(photon-anti photon) of our Wlad that theoretically fills the aether. Perhaps the investigators who claim to have seen the Majorana fermion have only found another method of extracting this energy from the aether.

  392. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Old??? You are vivacious like a kid ! I wish I arrive to your age with your freshness of mind.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  393. Andrea Rossi

    Jean Claud Renoir:
    Mats Lewan is a man whose main characteristic is the sincerity, and his book mirrors this characteristic of his. He is a scientific-investigative journalist, with a solid cultural base ( he has an engineering degree), curious to know anything new around and to investigate about. When he writes he is honest and sincere. When he writes a thing, is because he is convinced it is fit to be reported as he has sincerely understood it. For this reason his writing is interesting, as well as interesting the Journal he writes for ( Nyteknik).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  394. Andrea Rossi

    Jean Claud Renoir:
    Global Symmetry does not produce forces, it just gives an idea that something is moving around in the fields, everywhere and uniformly, at the same time; LOCAL Symmetries ( separately, at every point) can produce connection fields that generate Nature’s forces.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  395. Xavier Pitz

    Dear Andrea,

    Concerning your answer to Silvio Caggia.

    Did you just meant “He,he,he…” or
    “He,he,he… I still do not have information to give.” ?
    :-)

    Regards from France,

    Xavier Pitz

  396. Andrea Rossi

    Xavier Pitz:
    I meant: ” I still do not have AVAILABLE information to give”. Thank you from your kind attention from the great France, where I worked very much in the Seventies.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  397. Bill Nichols

    Dear Andrea:

    Thanks for your response and question.

    Since the e cat is a closed system (as we know it), your findings/comments are reasonable. Please be open (hint) to eventual offshoots if your important e cat endeavor is as successful as we all hope it is. Perhaps a gold mine in future research.

    Regarding your question. Yes and No. First, the No portion to your question.

    No. Projects I most heavily was involved with personally did not directly measure what we call positrons since much has been learned recently. Suggest this is a tree in the energy forest. Stealth principles and survivability were also always first.

    Yes. Simply described. Offer it is part of the Cascade of Energy of radiant energy, atmospheric physics, what I describe for lacking a better word electro-chemistry (Nano-technology enhanced, localized atmospheric conditions interactions roughly defined as resonance and coherence and so on) in stealth technology properties.

    Can we agree?

    • The simpler the explanation the better, “Occam’s razor” principle.

    • Science essentially explains our world that is testable and verifiable. Nature is the judge and jury, theories are man’s opinion. History shows too much emphasis on opinion and this is dangerous.

    • Data is never pristine. Caveats are critical. In Situ and Proxy data are not the same. Even In Situ data must be fully understood to what it measures.

    • The more I learn, the less I’m certain, and more I question. That is good.

    • The 5 blind men and elephant story reflects my 4 decades journey in science and others seem to suffer the same affliction.

    • Truth is our goal for a better life for all of us, Science is the vehicle to truth, the process of inquiry is the compass and fuel.

    Consider 3 concepts in adding to key on while using existing science concepts…

    1. Frame Of Reference. Are we using the correct tools?
    2. Scale Analysis (spatially, temporally, changing properties/characteristics of 6 forms of what we commonly define as energy) continuously applied to phenomena.
    3. Differentials (more than just G gravity or Q charge).

    When I gave high level briefings to key decision-makers in USAF/USN/Army/DOD, besides keep it simple, pictures to visualize were quite helpful. Mostly with Stealth Technology, Radiant Energy Principles, Climate Change, Future Weapon Systems including high altitude platforms.

    Here’s one picture I ask you to keep in your mind and as you move to the next section…

    Our current understanding may be more like a square peg of G/Q and accompanying mathematics, while cosmology is more like a round hole that operates like a slinky (type of oscillation?). It’s close, just incomplete for fuller, better applications.

    Now,

    Since I know your very busy…basic thoughts to your question.

    A.) We learned in USAF from large scales (macro) to the smallest (micro) importance of size and shape toward energy properties. You’ve noticed this too in some of your statements.
    B.) The broad concept, the “Global Electric Circuit” is poorly understood, ask for your consideration evidence continues to increase its more dynamic and holistic involvement with earth’s weather and climate. A tome could be written on this.
    C.) The thunderstorm phenomenon is not understood well (offer at all). Experiments we did if your interested may be of utility. These data reside in very closed circles. Directed these programs if you have questions.
    D.) Blue Jet , Red Sprites, Elves, high altitude ionization appear are more dynamic and holistic to earth-atmosphere system.
    E.) Do we fully understand the “y-axis” of the x-y axis of wavelength/frequency?
    F.) Properties of stealth may share similarities to micro size-shape relations you use.
    G.) Keep in mind the propagation properties of E-M…water is a remarkable compound, alchemy? Nexus of Atmospheric parameters link to lightning is beyond basic thermodynamics you’ve learned.
    H.) My experiences as an aviator (B-52), operating the most powerful E-M platforms in 1970s and early 1980s has proven priceless before my grounding and becoming a full time scientist. Meritocracy was always first order.

    Keeping the slinky picture in mind. Perhaps positrons are not even a tree, but a leaf. Yet, a useful clue though, we are not in a desert of energy.

    On the larger scales, look at our solar system, then, add the magnetic electric sheath of solar system graphical multi-variant pictures. Can our basic principles fully explain based in “gravity” and “charge”? Visualize Galaxy groups, Galaxies, hurricanes, extra-tropical systems, eddies (tornadoes, dust devils, smaller), similar characteristics coincidence? Go on to the smaller scales. See any inconsistencies and opportunities for testing toward improved understanding? Are you aware there are world atmosphere energy changes in the 25 to 35 day period that are very close (positive statistical correlation) to sun’s rotation pattern periodicity? Is this coincidence? Are you familiar with eigenvectors and eigenvalues? Uses and limitations? Keep in mind Big Bang, Dark Matter, Dark Energy are man’s theories (opinion) with no real direct concrete evidence, at incredible scales of energy for the slinky picture analogy. Example: Are you aware of eV profiles in dust devils, Tornadoes?

    Final point. My sense is we are living in continuous foam of energy that again operates like a slinky.

    Keep an open mind, Since you mentioned your very interested, this in my military records, I was the Weather Commander at Holloman AFB, NM while bringing F-117A Stealth Fighters during DESERT STORM. Worked with Gen Curtis Le May, (contacted by him) who was very energized, desperate and sincere, just before he passed, questions he had access to. Was told me had contacts to some things we were doing to things many, many, decades before.

    If you’re very interested in positrons, on the correct path. Consider the tree and forest analogy as you move forward?

    I can understand if you and others are scratching your heads. Can only postulate nature (data) and scales of cosmological phenomena suggests much of this.

    One very, very, big one benefit and truth is there is no conflict with science and spirituality. Keep in mind 1st Principle of Thermodynamics: Energy cannot be created or destroyed; only TRANSFORMED.

    Trust you found this at least curious and thought provoking to your question. This is already too long, could provide much, much, more but also wrong venue due to complexity of thought and areas worked and ramifications.

    Use your gut to assess if there is value to anything above. Found truth leads to comfort, less comfort is further from the truth. Science and feelings…yes. You must digest and decide.

    Again, good luck!

    Kind Regards,

    Bill Nichols

  398. Andrea Rossi

    Bill Nichols:
    Fantastic comment!
    Let me digest it, dropped like a bomb from a B 52. Booomm!
    Gotta return to my 1 MW baby, he decided Sunday is the best day to make troubles. Especially during the night.
    Talk to you soon,
    Andrea

  399. Gian Luca

    Dear A.R.
    Majorana with his studies he was a man of the future.
    If he were here today would certainly be a supporter of
    Rossi / Focardi.
    I’m sure…
    saluti
    Gian Luca

  400. Andrea Rossi

    Gian Luca:
    The “Ragazzi di Via Panisperna” have been the pioneers of the Nuclear Physics.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  401. P Janhunen

    Dear Andrea,

    Concerning positrons in thunderstorms, I find the wpedia page “Relativistic runaway electron avalanche” to be a readable introduction to the topic.

    The main idea is that once an electron moves in air fast enough (with more than 100 eV kinetic energy or so), the average friction that it experiences due to Coulomb collisions with atomic electrons and nuclei gets smaller when the energy gets larger (for lower energies, the reverse is true). Hence, if a fast electron is created by some seed mechanism such as cosmic ray, it can be accelerated until it becomes relativistic. The limit is set by the voltage drop that exists between ground and cloud which can be several million volts. Electrons with such high energies are able to create positrons when colliding with other electrons.

    The faster a charged particle moves, the less time it has to interact coulombically with other particles when passing by. The same mechanism explains why radiation therapy is possible: when a charged particle beam moves through tissue, it deposits most of its energy at a certain depth, not at the skin.
    regards, /pekka

  402. Andrea Rossi

    P. Janhunen:
    Thank you for your interesting and correct explication.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  403. silvio caggia

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    So you will not be allowed to tell us that you received the report (3 days before publishing)…
    But we can ask you daily if you received the report and you will answer “I still do not have information to give.”… Till that day! :-)
    This is like non-destructive quantic measuring :-D
    Quantic Regards

  404. Andrea Rossi

    Silvio Caggia:
    He,he,he…
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  405. Dear JoNP Readers,
    while waiting for the ITPR, in my free time I gathered a sort of “LENR theory”. Yet Another one!
    I would very much appreciate any comments/suggestions/sharp criticism … . So I prepared a trivial web site with the “theory” in a pdf document and a blog page for your comments.
    The page is:

    http://lenr-calaon-explanation.weebly.com/

    The “theory” is more of a collection of ideas comprising the set of what I think are the real LENR reactions (nothing really new as you will read), plus the mechanism that makes them possible. Nothing outside the realm of accepted physics.

    I hope you’ll find it interesting.

    Best regards

    Andrea Calaon

  406. John L

    Hello Andrea,
    I was thinking along the line of using hot molten salt to trigger and regulate the Rossi effect/LENR and as the same time, a medium for storage of the extra heat generated. Perhaps an integration of existing concentrated solar molten salt plant with Hotcats for electric power generation.

    Respectfully regards, John L

  407. Andrea Rossi

    John L.:
    Thank you for the suggestion, that is interesting.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  408. Andrea Rossi

    To the Readers:
    On Science has been published the discovery of the “Majorana Fermion”, so called because it has been hypotised by Ettore Majorana ( fellow student of Enrico Fermi , when they were called “I ragazzi di via Panisperna”). This particle is extremely interesting because it is, at the same time, an elementary particle AND its own antiparticle. The discovery has been made in the Princeton University by the Group of Nadj- Perge.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  409. Hugh D

    Dear Andre,
    Thunderstorm produced positrons
    Thunderstorms produce plenty of positively charged particles and negatively charged particles by forces causing electrons to be added or subtracted by convection from aerosol particles. The result is lightning which is believed to create bursts of positrons.

    “Scientists think the antimatter particles were formed in a terrestrial gamma-ray flash (TGF), a brief burst produced inside thunderstorms and shown to be associated with lightning. It is estimated that about 500 TGFs occur daily worldwide.”

    See http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/GLAST/news/fermi-thunderstorms.html

    I am certainly no expert on positrons or antimatter.

    Best regards,
    Hugh

  410. Andrea Rossi

    Hugh D.:
    Very interesting: when NASA is around, there is much to learn.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  411. John L

    Hello Andrea,
    Have you tried to combine a Hotcat with molten salt technologies – any productive outcome?

    Respectfully regards, John L

  412. Andrea Rossi

    John L.:
    No, not yet. What are you thinking about, precisely?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  413. To the readers of JONP:
    My book ‘An Impossible Invention — The Energy Source that Could Change the World’ is now available as an ebook on Amazon:
    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O38417S

  414. Andrea Rossi

    Mats Lewan:
    Good luck for your honest and sincere book.
    Andrea Rossi

  415. Pietro F.

    e se cambiasse strategia riguardo la proprietà intellettuale e il prossimo brevetto? Potrebbe seguire il pensiero di Elon Musk, ceo di Tesla:
    And if he changes his strategy regarding intellectual property and the next patent ? Could follow the thought of Elon Musk, CEO of Tesla:

    http://www.industrie-techno.com/tesla-donner-ses-brevets-rapporte-plus-que-de-les-defendre.30696

    buon lavoro.

    Pietro F.

  416. Andrea Rossi

    Pietro F.:
    Our patent strategy is made by out patent attorneys.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  417. Joseph J

    Dear Andrea

    Is the e-cat also suitable for containerized desalination as, for example this company is offering?
    Canadian Clear http://www.canadianclear.com/desalination.html
    Or these http://www.hohusa.net/InsideViews.html

  418. Andrea Rossi

    Joseph J.:
    Maybe.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  419. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear Andrea,
    happy Saturday and good Sunday.
    do you give us a warning, when you’ll receive the report?
    If I remember you said “…they will deliver to me the report several days before the publication”.
    “Several” = “3 to 4 days”, you said.
    Regards,
    Giuliano Bettini.

  420. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    I still do not have information to give.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  421. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    You mentioned that under the protocol, you will receive a advanced release of the independent report three days before the publication. Are you allowed to reveal that you have received that release?

  422. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    No.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  423. LucaS

    Caro Andrea,

    Ti seguo dall’inizio della tua avventura come un tifoso segue la sua squadra del cuore…. e ti auguro un grandissimo in bocca al lupo in vista del prossimo report!

  424. Andrea Rossi

    LucaS:
    Thank you for your kind comment. Let’s hope.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  425. Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in October 3rd, 2014 at 2:17 PM

    Hank Mills:
    Coffee.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    ————————————–

    Andrea,
    God built the world in 6 days, and in the seventh He drunk champaign.

    regards
    wlad

  426. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    He,he..yes, but I am a servant of God and I need coffee. Hungry and nervous is the perfect state to work for something.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  427. Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi, Google:
    Thunderstorms Make Antimatter
    Click on:
    NASA Science
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA

  428. Andrea Rossi

    Robert Curto:
    Interesting, thank you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  429. Joe

    Dr Rossi,

    Concerning your question about positrons and thunderstorms, the following might help:

    “And under the clouds the investigators documented extraordinary strikes of “positive” lightning. These bolts were six times as powerful as ordinary “negative” lightning, and they lasted ten times as long.”
    http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/arch06/060322sprite.htm

    Maybe that factor of six is directly responsible for the COP of six found in the E-Cat.

    All the best,
    Joe

  430. Andrea Rossi

    Joe:
    Thank you for the information.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  431. Wladimir Guglinski

    eernie1 wrote in October 3rd, 2014 at 10:33 AM

    Wlad,

    1) ————————-
    In your remarks, you dismiss Dirac and say the difference between your theory and his is that he uses a massive particle and antiparticle(although he states the particles are made up of waves in a string) and your particles are massless photon like particles.
    ———————————————

    Eernie,
    the particle and antiparticle of the aether are not massless. They have mass, but their mass is very very smaller than the mass of electron and positron.
    QRT and Dirac’s theory are similar, the difference is the mass of the particle-antiparticle considered in the two theories.

    .

    2)———————————–
    Since you dismiss SQM do you also dismiss the Higgs field and Higgs Boson?
    ————————————-

    Of course.
    Higgs proposed his theory 60 years ago, when the theorists were sure the space is empty, as proposed by Einstein.

    The experiment published in 2011 by Nature proved that space is no empty, and therefore Higgs theory is wrong.
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/Light-created-from-vacuum-shows-empty-space-a-myth/articleshow/10789049.cms

    The boson detected in the LHC is not the Higgs boson.
    In 2015, when the LHC will work in full potency, other bosons will be detected.

    .

    3) ———————————
    Dirac envisions his epo as two fields(electron and positron) intertwined and phase related to maintain its character. Isn’t this similar to your particle made up of two fields?
    ————————————

    No.
    My model of double-field of the elementary particles was conceived with the aim to solve the puzzles of the hydrogen atom and the nucleus, not explained in the Standard Model.

    The model of elementary particle proposed in QRT is the following:

    1- a body-ring formed by quarks

    2- the rotation of the body-ring induces a flux of gravitons (distributed in the form of Dirac strings performing spires crossing the ring). The flux of gravitons induces an inner principal electromagnetic field involving the body-ring.

    3- the rotation of the inner principal field induces an outer secondary electromagnetic field (concentric and involving the inner field). This secondary field is responsible for the Coulomb interactions.

    When a nucleon perforates the secondary outer field of a nucleus, it is captured by the flux of gravitons produced by a central 2He4, and so the nucleon takes a place in a region within the principal field of the 2He4, where the nucleon does not experiences the Coulomb repulsions.

    So, in the nuclear model proposed in my QRT, the nuclei aggregation is not due to the strong nuclear force.
    The protons and neutrons are kept thanks to the equilibrium between centripetal force and magnetic force on them. This is shown in my paper Stability of Ligth Nuclei, published in the JoNP:
    http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/Stability%20of%20light%20nuclei.pdf

    regards
    wlad

  432. Bill Nichols

    Dear Andrea Rossi…

    Two questions…

    1.) Is the e-cat reaction in any way impacted by changes in Atmospheric Conditions (even if 2nd or 3rd Order)?

    2.) If so, wouldn’t further testing potentially provide additional insight to how the reaction works and is governed?

    We know…THERE ARE KEY ASSUMPTIONS MEASURING TEMPERATURE (KINETIC ENERGY) AND HEAT (POTENTIAL ENERGY + KINETIC ENERGY).

    In other words, do we fully understand what we are measuring? Your temperature probes, a statistical based derivation of differential Q. Examples: Kirchoff’s and Plank’s laws fully valid to name a couple.

    We don’t really know what “gravity” G is…what “charge” Q is (suggest both are relativistic phenomena). Quantum physics is statistical…so essentially is Rutherford…Bohr…Wave models of the atom.

    As an Atmospheric Scientist who worked hi-levels military Stealth technology in 1980′s/1990′s with Radiant, Thermal, Nuclear, Mechanical & Chemical Energy relationships, if question 1 is valid, maybe there are some tests to consider depending on your dataset to better understand what I describe is happening within the Earth-Atmosphere-Solar-Cosmological (EASC) system. Scales of Energy leading to better understanding of our rough grasp of resonance, coherence and harmonics to name a few.

    My decades in these disciplines…offer this is the case…and much of what we have learned is incomplete. Would be surprised if your answer to question 1 is no.

    Don’t we need to understand the relationship of Q (charge…two way force) and G (“gravity”…one way “force”)…since both are used to define ENERGY? Do we really understand force?

    I saw confirmed anomalous heat in early 1990s as a research scientist. So don’t doubt the phenomena.

    If you’ve seen variances per question 1…maybe there are some basic first order tests. You may or may not have considered and done.

    Thanks for the opportunity to ask these two questions, and all the best in your endeavors and hopefully ultimately to a successful report for the e cat.

    Kind Regards,

    Bill Nichols

  433. Andrea Rossi

    Bill Nichols:
    No, atmospheric conditions cannot affect in any way the operation of the E-Cat. Thank you very much for your comment, though, and one question from me: do you know tests that gave evidence of production of positrons during thunderstorms? I am very interested to that effect.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  434. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    If you were to go grocery shopping in the near future and were required to add one extra item to your list, what purchase do you think would be most appropriate: natural curcumin powder (a natural anxiety reliever), coffee (to get more work done), or champaign?

  435. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    Coffee.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  436. Hello Andrea,

    The rumblings are getting louder and it does seem that the independent report is soon going to be published.

    Regardless of whether the report is positive or negative, your greatest accomplishment may be that you are inspiring people to examine the possibility that existing assumptions can be incorrect, and that things can be better.

    As effective as any artist.

    You do this while attempting to retain the view that you are a spiritual part of something much larger than yourself.

    This is the great gift that I hope to have captured in my film, so that people can be see your example and be inspired to improve other things in the world.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHJ6julvoMg

    I enjoyed reading Stephen Hawking’s autobiography where he communicates the idea that he is grateful to have had the opportunity to study, and that he is simply lucky because he “happened to choose an area of science that has not been proved wrong yet”. All things can be improved.

    I look forward to the story continuing.

  437. Andrea Rossi

    Thomas Florek:
    Thank you for your continue attention.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  438. eernie1

    Wlad,
    In your remarks, you dismiss Dirac and say the difference between your theory and his is that he uses a massive particle and antiparticle(although he states the particles are made up of waves in a string) and your particles are massless photon like particles. How do your particles then create mass. Since you dismiss SQM do you also dismiss the Higgs field and Higgs Boson? Dirac envisions his epo as two fields(electron and positron) intertwined and phase related to maintain its character. Isn’t this similar to your particle made up of two fields?

  439. stevehigh

    Dear Andrea:
    My beloved son is a brilliant researcher in nanophysics who is biding his time working as a postdoc at an august New England institution. I’ve been pestering him about the ECat since I first heard of it in January 2011. My question: will there be a place on your team for such a talented individual who has pretty much achieved the bending of heaven and earth in his lab? I expect to be sending him a breathless update on your progress in the near future.

  440. Andrea Rossi

    Stevehigh:
    Your son can send his C.V. and credentials to
    info@leonardocorp1996.com
    Our Group will need to hire and all the requests of employement will be duly examined.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  441. Fabio82

    Dear Andrea, why and how did you start studying lern?
    good luck, I’m very anxious too.
    Fabio

  442. Andrea Rossi

    Fabio82:
    I started few time after the press conference of F&P and the reason has been that I was interested to work with it, being already in the field of energy production.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  443. Wladimir Guglinski

    eernie1 wrote in October 2nd, 2014 at 7:30 PM

    Wlad,
    Sorry, what I meant to say was can the summation of magnetic moments create the null readings in the spherical nuclei.
    ———————————————–

    Eernie,
    I made a mistake.
    Actually it is IMPOSSIBLE.

    Because if in the even-even nuclei with Z=N the total magnetic moment due to protons and neutrons was not zero, then the nuclear spin also would not be zero.
    But those nuclei have nuclear spin zero.

    Therefore the magnetic moment due to protons and neutrons must be zero.
    And so it remains the magnetic moment due to the rotation of the protons.

    regards
    wlad

  444. Wladimir Guglinski

    eernie1 wrote in October 2nd, 2014 at 7:41 PM

    Wlad,
    One more thing. Santilli has a proposed structural form for his neutron. How does it compare with yours?
    ——————————————–

    Eernie,
    Santilli’s model cannot explain the spin 1/2 of the neutron, because he does not consider the helical trajectory of the elementary particles in his theory.

    Also, in my theory I propose a new gravitational Planck constant 1000 times smaller than the electromagnetic Planck’s constant, in order to explain why the electron is not expelled from the nuclei.

    regards
    wlad

  445. Wladimir Guglinski

    eernie1 wrote in October 2nd, 2014 at 7:30 PM

    Wlad,
    Sorry, what I meant to say was can the summation of magnetic moments create the null readings in the spherical nuclei.
    ———————————————–

    There is no way.
    The protons and neutrons have magnetic moment. In the even-even nuclei with Z=N, each proton has a symmetric proton and their total magnetic moment is zero, and the same happens with each neutron, it has its symmetric.
    So, due to protons and neutrons, the magnetic moment is zero.

    For a total null magnetic moment, the protons and neutrons would have to have a total non-null magnetic moment, with the exact value (and with contrary signal) of the magnetic moment produced by the rotation of the protons.
    That would be a very big coincidence.

    Even if the coincidence could occur in the case of one specific nucleus, however the coincidence could not occur for all the even-even nuclei with Z=N, as 2He4, 4Be8, 6C12, 8O16, 10Ne20, 12Mg24, 14Si28, etc. etc…

    regards
    wlad

  446. eernie1

    Wlad,
    One more thing. Santilli has a proposed structural form for his neutron. How does it compare with yours?

  447. eernie1

    Wlad,
    Sorry, what I meant to say was can the summation of magnetic moments create the null readings in the spherical nuclei.

  448. Wladimir Guglinski

    eernie1 wrote in October 2nd, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    Wlad,

    1) ———————————
    He also,like some of todays scientists and yourself,considered the aether as composed of particles and antiparticles(electron and positron).
    ————————————

    Eernie,
    however there is a fundamental difference.

    The positron and electron have big mass, compared with the mass of the particles and antiparticles proposed in my Quantum Ring Theory.

    The own positron and electron are composed by particles and antiparticles, because they are formed by quarks, and the quarks are composed by particles and antiparticles (those which compose the structure of the aether).

    .

    2) ——————————-
    He went a step further by proposing that each particle also had another opposed form of energy.
    ———————————-

    It is easier to develop a theory dealing with energy, as Dirac did, instead of proposing new particles.
    However, the question is not to find the theoretical easily way. Because in the case the structure of the aether be really composed by several particles-antiparticles, the easier theoretical way fatally will fail.

    .

    3) ——————————————–
    If you want conjectures, I cant think of a situation that allows more of them.
    ———————————————–

    It is not just a question of proposing conjectures.

    There are two sort of conjectures: the good, and the bad.

    When an author starts up by supposing good conjectures, his theory will be compatible with the phenomena observed in the Nature.

    But when an author starts up by supposing bad conjectures, his theory will fail in several aspects, and therefore will be denied by several phenomena.
    An example is the Dirac’s theory.

    .

    4) ————————————-
    On another subject, can the differences between you and the SQM people arise because of the mobility character of the particles that make up the nucleus? I think this does not allow for supposing a single geometrical form, but is composed of a summation of all the possible forms for the nucleons.
    —————————————-

    No.
    My nuclear model has a central 2He4.
    This is the reason why the even-even nuclei with Z=N have non-spherical shape, according to my Quantum Ring Theory.

    As there is not a central 2He4 in the current nuclear models, then, according to the Standard Nuclear Physics, the even-even nuclei with Z=N must have spherical shape, and that’s why along 80 years the nuclear physicists were sure that those nuclei are spherical.

    But when I developed my nuclear model, I knew that non-spherical nuclei must have non-null quadrupole moment. As the experiments had never detected non-null quadrupole moment for even-even nucle with Z=N, I had to explain why, according my nuclear model, the experiments never detected the non-null quadrupole moment for those nuclei.
    I proposed the explanation in the page 137 of my book Quantum Ring Theory.

    The authors of the paper published by the journal Nature in 2012 faced the same problem.
    Because, as the experiments published by Nature in 2012 detected that even-even nclei with Z=N have non-spherical shape, then why the experiments along the years had never detected their non-null quadrupole moment?
    The explanation proposed by the authors of the paper published by Nature in 2012 is the same explanation proposed in the page 137 of my book.

    .

    5) —————————-
    Could this account for the none null readings of magnetic moments in what is considered spherical nuclei?
    ——————————-

    You did not understand the point.
    In spite of even-even nuclei with Z=N have non-spherical shape, nevertheless they have NULL magnetic moment, which is confirmed by experiments.

    However, as all the nuclei have rotation, and they have positive charge (protons), the rotation of the protons would have to induce a magnetic moment in the case of the even-even nuclei with Z=N.
    Therefore, by considering the foundations of the Standard Nuclear Physics, the even-even nuclei with Z=N cannot have magnetic moment zero, and so the foundations of the theory are denied by the null magnetic moment of those nuclei.

    So, the Standard Nuclear Physics cannot explain why the even-even nuclei with Z=N have null magnetic moment.
    And this is the reason why the nuclear physicist Dr.Lakshminarayana (author of the present paper published in the JoNP, and also the professor invited by the Dr. Seshavatharam) did not come here to explain such a question.

    regards
    wlad

  449. eernie1

    Joe,
    Good question. You are perhaps asking if there has been evidence that the coulombic repulsion between the negative hole and the electron can be decreased or compensated for in a semiconductor structure allowing the electron to occupy this site. Of course the theory that at extremely low temperatures, the coulombic repulsion between pairs of electrons is mitigated and would allow pairs to be formed(Cooper pairs) thereby producing what is called superconductivity, is similar. This possibly occurs because at decreased temperatures theoretically there is formed a Fermi gas similar to the Boson gas of the BEC. I recall that investigators at a number of institutions are pursuing this question because it could be the basis for an extremely fast 0-1 computer chip.
    I hope I have not misinterpreted your question.

  450. JCRenoir

    Andrea, now the rumors that the report id very close are becoming loud. Are you hearing any whisper of it?
    JCR

  451. Andrea Rossi

    JCRenoir:
    I too hear the rumors: you said that come from 100 Harley Davidsons, I take notice of what you say.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  452. Andrea Rossi

    JC Renoir: I am not scared, I am anxious.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  453. DTravchenko

    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    How is going the work with the 1 MW plant? Are your troubles more or less than 2 weeks ago?
    Warm Regards,
    DT

  454. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    Our 1 MW plant is a magnificence and an ouvre d’art: we resolved the problems we had ( so far…). We have a great team!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  455. colurwin

    Haha ‘Listen carefully’ Andrea, Bond-James-Bond fan or not… Your attitude to internet security was already betrayed by your willingness to click links to posted on this blog!

    Maybe one has over time become blase about the nature of one’s own discoveries?

    Highest Regards
    Col

  456. Andrea Rossi

    Colurwin:
    Nor true, and I cannot explain you why…
    Warm Regards,
    Bond, James Bond

  457. Joe

    eernie1,

    Has an experiment involving the stopping (and perhaps cooling) of an electron ever been done to verify the suspected drop of a low energy electron into a negative hole?

    All the best,
    Joe

  458. JCRenoir

    Also: the rumors ( like 100 Harley Davidsons) are that the results are very important: are you scared?

  459. eernie1

    Wlad,
    I have enjoyed our discussions immensely. Perhaps I did not make myself clear when I asked how was your theory basically different than Dirac’s. He also,like some of todays scientists and yourself,considered the aether as composed of particles and antiparticles(electron and positron). He went a step further by proposing that each particle also had another opposed form of energy. One set he called negative and the other positive. The negative energy particles because they were the lowest energy, filled all the allowed energy levels of the aether and possessed 0 entropy(perhaps dark energy). The positive entities, because they were excluded by the Pauli principal, were free to manifest themselves in the sensible portion of the aether and arranged themselves into stable pairs he called epos. The movement of the epos in and out of the two regions of the aether defined some of the interactions we observe between particles and photons and allow the entire spectrum of frequencies and the mass to energy relationships that exist. If you want conjectures, I cant think of a situation that allows more of them.
    On another subject, can the differences between you and the SQM people arise because of the mobility character of the particles that make up the nucleus? I think this does not allow for supposing a single geometrical form, but is composed of a summation of all the possible forms for the nucleons. Could this account for the none null readings of magnetic moments in what is considered spherical nuclei?
    Regards.

  460. Dear Andrea,
    (Related to your answer to Joseph Fine and previous discussion about AC/DC.) So only AC works as driver, but DC gets produced. Is then DC a poison? If so, there exists counter-poison: oppositely directed DC. Even if the effect is small, maybe possible to obtain extra control parameter this way.
    regards, /pekka

  461. Andrea Rossi

    Pekka Janhunen:
    The issue is much more complex.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  462. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    He,he,he…
    By the way: the production of direct current is one of the rows of our R&D.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  463. Wladimir Guglinski

    eernie1 wrote in October 1st, 2014 at 4:49 PM

    Wlad, We are at a crossroad in our discussion. I will close by suggesting that you reread Dirac with an open mind.
    ———————————-

    Dear Eernie,
    as you said, “Dirac believed he could explain the laws of Nature with his four particles. IMO he did a good job. HE thought that adding more would only over complicate the issues.”

    If the Nature would be working with four particles, be sure that Dirac’s theory would be able to reproduce the whole phenomena existing in the Nature.

    Dirac had supposed that Nature works by four particles. But he had supposed it because “thought that adding more would only over complicate the issues”. However such assumption is not a guarantee that Nature really works by four particles.

    The problem with the scientific method is because it does not allow conjectures.
    Dirac preferred to consider the known existing particles as the electron and the positron, and that’s why he avoided to appeal to a conjecture by supposing other more particles.

    However, if the Nature works via several particles of the aether, then any attempt by using the scientific method fails, because it does not allow conjectures.

    When I was developíng my Quantum Ring Theory, I felt that the Standard Model was not able to explain several phenomena. And then I started to think about several conjectures.
    So, when I was developing my theory, I thought to myself: “My God, the scientists will never accept my theory, because there are so much conjectures in it”.

    For instance, my model of field formed by two concentric fields is a conjecture hard to be accepted.

    But look what happened with other conjecture.

    According to my new nuclear model, the even-even nuclei with Z=N have non-spherical shape. But a non-spherical nucleus must have non null electric quadrupole moment. And this is the reason why along 80 years the nuclear physicists believed that those nuclei have spherical shape.

    So, as the experiments never measured electric quandrupole moment non null for those nuclei, it seemed that my theory was wrong, and that’s why I thought to myself:
    “The scientists will never accept my new nuclear model, since the experiments never detected a quadrupole moment zero for the even-even nuclei with Z=N”.

    But in 2012 new experiments published in the journal Nature detected that those nuclei have non-spherical shape, as predicted in my theory.

    As you see, the scientists avoid conjectures, because the scientific method does not allow them, and this is the reason why sometimes they arrive to wrong conclusions.

    So, Dirac made a mistake, believing that Nature works by four particles only. He avoided to consider more particles because he wished to avoid conjectures. And he developed a wrong theory, because in the case of the structure of the aether there is need to consider conjectures.
    There is no way to solve the mystery of the aether structure without to consider conjectures.

    And the authors of the paper published by the European Physical Journal in 2013 have the same opinion of mine, since they had proposed a conjecture: the aether is formed by particles and antiparticles, like proposed in my Quantum Ring Theory:
    The quantum vacuum as the origin of the speed of light
    http://link.springer.com/article/10.1140%2Fepjd%2Fe2013-30578-7#page-1

    regards
    wlad

  464. Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi:

    A current is a flow of charge. In a semiconductor, for example, there are negative and positive charge carriers: (An excess of) Electrons and a deficiency of Electrons or ‘Holes’.

    In your device, do you produce both negative and positive charges and/or currents? In this way, perhaps your results can be both Negative AND Positive at the same time!

    Positive regards,

    Joseph Fine

  465. colurwin

    Steven N Karels wrote:

    …and perhaps state-sponsored espionage too

    ——————————

    Perhaps!? I’m not a great conspiracy theorist, but I’m fairly certain there are several darkened rooms around the world devoting themselves to finding out just what’s going on in Dr Rossi’s lab.
    …cf: The Snowden Files

    Maybe The Good Doctor air-gapped his favoutite PC, but I bet the TPR reseachers didn’t.

    My guess is the Russian state is the most interested, as without a high oil price, things won’t be too rosy for them…

  466. Andrea Rossi

    Colurwin:
    How many movies of Bond-James-Bond did you watch this morning? Take it easy, turn into Mickey Mouse!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  467. BroKeeper

    Dear Andrea, while praying, don’t imagine the dark side of the moon. Its light and your work of hope will be reflected back to us all from the Son. Bless you brother.

  468. Andrea Rossi

    BroKeeper:
    Let’s just put down at work…the cow is harnessed, now has to pull.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  469. Andre Blum

    Dear Andrea,

    Thank you for all your hard work and perseverance. As (long time) spectators of your work, we have exciting times ahead, with the upcoming report!

    I was curious: where do you work out of nowadays? Are you still working (at least part time) in Italy? Or are you working more or less permanently in the U.S. now? Is your U.S. base still Florida, or are you spending most of your time in North Carolina or elsewhere?

    Best regards, good luck!
    Andre

  470. Andrea Rossi

    Andre Blum:
    I am always in the USA, mainly in North Carolina and in Florida, focused on my work for Industrial Heat and IH’s Customer.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  471. Wladimir Guglinski

    Francesco wrote in October 1st, 2014 at 12:48 PM

    Hi, I can’t understand how you can accept the hypothesis of a negative result of the independent report if you are sure that the so called “Rossi effect” is real and so evident (COP6).
    I don’t want to be polemic but for me is impossible to understand how you can continue to say that the results can be negative although you have worked on this system for so long and you have a so deep comprehension of the phenomena.

    Thank you for you answer.
    ———————————

    Dear Francesco,
    My humble opinion is that Andrea Rossi is sure his eCat works.
    He thinks, though,”The final answer belongs to the scientists who are testing the eCat”.

    When the heart of person stops to work, and he stops to breathe, we are sure that he is dead
    However, we have to wait the autopsy report of the coroner, so that to consider oficially that person as dead.

    So, the test will tell us oficially what we already know: the eCat works. Otherwise Rossi is dead.

    regards
    wlad

  472. BroKeeper

    Dear Rossi, while praying, don’t imagine the dark side of the moon. Its light and your work of hope will be reflected back to us all from the Son. Bless you brother.

  473. eernie1

    Wlad, We are at a crossroad in our discussion. I will close by suggesting that you reread Dirac with an open mind.
    Fond regards.

  474. orsobubu

    Dear Andrea,

    according to Argon’s thoughtful LMAO translation machine, not only you are very near to “your labor exhaustion”, but it seems that, because “your investors need result of your work”, in the effort of “increase your work team” you’re starting a very discutible practice of “delegate …etc” Please clarify urgently this point because this is not what we intend here as a permanent social evolution.

  475. Andrea Rossi

    Orsobubu:
    I did not publish your comment because “that” word has not right of citizenship in this blog.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  476. Francesco

    Hi, I can’t understand how you can accept the hypothesis of a negative result of the independent report if you are sure that the so called “Rossi effect” is real and so evident (COP6).
    I don’t want to be polemic but for me is impossible to understand how you can continue to say that the results can be negative although you have worked on this system for so long and you have a so deep comprehension of the phenomena.

    Thank you for you answer.

  477. Andrea Rossi

    Francesco:
    We must wait for thr report of the ITP and the operation of at least one year of the 1 MW plant before considering consolidated the technology. In the meantime a huge R&D work will have to be performed.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  478. Wladimir Guglinski

    eernie1 wrote in September 30th, 2014 at 5:15 PM

    Wlad,
    Why do you keep insisting that the only photons in the Dirac theory are the annihilation photons of an epo(511 KeV for the electron, 511KeV for the positron)? In his theory he accounts for the production of all frequencies of the spectrum and only in special cases, for the annihilation of the epos. Why do you think that only those photons are allowed?
    ———————————————

    Dear Eernie,
    an acceptable model of photon must be able to explain the entire electromagnetic spectrum.

    According to the Dirac theory, the photons of the luminous spectrum have energy in the magnitude of 1MeV.

    1MeV is the energy of the gamma rays.

    Therefore, according to Dirac theory, all animals and the human specie would have to be blind, since the energy of the positron-electron photon would destroy the eyes of the whole live beings.

    But the energy of the positron-electron photon would destroy not only the eyes of all alive beings.
    The photons positron-electron with the energy of the gamma rays would destroy the whole life in the planet.

    Dirac theory of the photon is absurd and stupid, and I dont want to talk about anymore.

    You are trying desperately to save the Dirac theory, because you use it in your LERN theory.
    But the science does not work in such a way.
    If a theory is unable to describe a phenomenon, the theory must be discarded, because the phenomenon cannot be discarded (as you are suggesting), since the phenomenon belongs to the range of phenomena existing in the Nature.

    regards
    wlad

  479. Giuliano Bettini

    Andrea, Jean Pierre:
    maybe the issue is not:
    AC has something positive.
    Maybe the issue is: DC has something negative (which gas doesn’t have).
    As a matter of fact, things may be positive, but also negative.
    Magnetic regards
    Giuliano Bettini.

  480. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    I do not know how the consume of electricity has been measured by the Independent Third Party, but I imagine it will be described in detail in the report.
    I know, because they told me before the test, that they have treasured the experience and the critics made after the test made in 2013.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    P.S.
    As per your request, I did not publish your comment.

  481. timycelyn

    Dear Dr Rossi, regarding lead for screening. Do you forsee lead will always be needed for screening e-cats, or only while we are in the early stages of making these devices, with other screening options possible later?

    My concern is that if you look up lead in Wikipedia, current world resources – without additional demand – will be used up in around 40 years.

    My very best hopes and wishes for success!

    Tim

  482. Andrea Rossi

    Timycelyn:
    In our Team there are specialists of the necessary fields and when we need support we ask it from external specialists of our trust. Obviously the control system are a vital part of the plant and your Group can be sure we have top level engineers that have designed it. Obviously we work only with persons who got the necessary clearance, beside the necessary professionality.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  483. orsobubu

    When Steven N. Karels reads Andrea Rossi saying RCPN (Report Could be Positive or Negative), he LOLs. But when I read Steven N. Karels trying every subtle trick to know the nickel particle size from Rossi, I ROTFL. LOL.

  484. Andrea Rossi

    Orsobubu:
    I agree with you. What we are doing is a team work. A strong team work. Read again the comment of Argon… and my answer to him.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  485. timycelyn1

    Dear Andrea,
    We have been discussing the 1MW plant you have installed at IH’s first E-cat customer, and the experts in our group who have background in the relevant industry and disciplines are stressing the challenge and difficulty of ganging up 100 – odd heat producing units in a heat excanger type situation, and keeping them all within acceptable performance parameters.

    Apparently it is a substantial control systems challenge, even for something as mundane as a gas burner, that could take many months to perfect.

    Our concern was that we knew the World’s ECAT experts were taking care of the ECAT modules at the heart of he 1MW device, but we wondered (no insult meant!!) to what extent you had / had access to the very best experts in these complex control system problems. One of our number summed this up with something like “They shouldn’t try to do everything themselves. They are the ultimate experts when it comes to the ECATs, but they need to get in equivalent experts for the non-ECAT parts of the project.” How do you feel about this worry – have we a point?

    Best wishes and hopes

    Tim

  486. Andrea Rossi

    Rodney Nicholson:
    nice!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  487. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    When the independent report is published and IF IT IS POSITIVE!, A big if, yes we know it can be either positive or negative, but if it is very positive, this could be very troubling for you and your firm. Think of the enormous pressure to produce, to protect your Intellectual property, the increased amount of scams and fake investments which will arise, the enormity of the opposition now becoming competition, etc. You will have awakened many sleeping giants.

    I understand you have taken provisions to obtain a patent and, perhaps, the report, IF POSITIVE, will aid in a successful outcome. But, I suspect, literally billions will flood into corporate and perhaps government research projects into this technology area. And there is the problem of industrial espionage (and perhaps state-sponsored espionage too). I trust your security (IT and personal) are good enough. I hope you are ready to ride the Wave of Success, if the report is very positive. Success can be very difficult in ways you may not have imagined. It seems you have a good Management team, seasoned and strong. And a good technology team. Your thoughts?

  488. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels,
    You have imagined the bright side of the moon. I should have to imagine the dark side of the moon. The consequences of a failure would be devastating.
    In both cases, I will continue, as always, to pray God every morning and then get down to work, because in both cases much work will have to be done by our team. First of all, we want to see the 1 MW plant work well for a long, long time, and make profits for the company of our Customer. I have to focus on this, not on the sides of the moon.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  489. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I think Argon’s suggestion was towards the thought of developing different applications, given you understand the input and output characteristics of the eCat reactor. A suitable simulator could be developed to exercise the heat transfer and/or application.

    Personally, I would think it would divert you from your primary goal of producing a production version of eCats. The industrial companies that want your eCat know best how to convert the output power into their particular application. Having an “army” of support means Management and that takes time and energy (from you). You are doing it right… keep on doing it.

  490. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Thank you.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  491. Argon

    Sorry my english is a machine translation. Dear Dr. Rossi! You have a lot of months of hard work up to 16 hours a day. But the timing of the sale of E-cat and remain unclear. It is normal for the industry difficult birth of new products. Thus, the typical cars and planes are still developing teams of dozens of people, and build their thousands. And work of one person does not replace the work of the collective. May be worth more to delegate to the your slaves, increase your work team? It is doubtful that your investors need result of your works your labor exhaustion :) )). I am personally as your little client need a real product – E-cat :) ))
    After the imminent release of the report you will be throwing questions – where e-cat? when the e-cat? What that it is necessary to accelerate the production of e-cat? :) ))

  492. Andrea Rossi

    Argon:
    It is not very easy to understand what you mean, but I try.
    About domestic E-Cats: we will not put them for sale for the time being. It will take time to make it possible, for many reasons I already explained.
    About the other issues: my duty is to continue my R&D work, whatever the results of the ITP report.
    By the way: I am not exhausted, I am used to work hard.
    Suggestion: please write short phrases, so you can take under control what you say… and avoid to write stupidities as the one I cancelled from your comment.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  493. eernie1

    Wlad,
    Why do you keep insisting that the only photons in the Dirac theory are the annihilation photons of an epo(511 KeV for the electron, 511KeV for the positron)? In his theory he accounts for the production of all frequencies of the spectrum and only in special cases, for the annihilation of the epos. Why do you think that only those photons are allowed?

  494. Argon

    Dear dr.Rossi!
    You will need to work not thirty people, but many dozens of groups and thousands of experienced people. You can have labor subcontractors without loss of your know-how. For this you may give yous future subcontractors a full-featured simulator E-Cat.
    To save your know-how you need to give subcontractors not real E-cat, but its full-featured simulator. Having the same external characteristics. Identical dimensions, capacity, load schedule and everything else like a real E-cat. But without the contents of the active Ni-H nucleus. To put it simply, an electric boiler in the corpus of E-Cat with the electronic control circuit. With big label ‘model emulator E-cat’
    In doing so you will be able to hired your contractors other entire teams and firms. Specialists in steam turbines, energy, power electrics. Specialists in Stirling engines and heating systems of buildings, etc. etc.

  495. Andrea Rossi

    Argon:
    Sorry, but I do not see the point.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  496. Wladimir Guglinski

    eernie1 wrote in September 30th, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    Wlad,
    You must be kidding that the absorption of Dirac photons by a black surface is indicative of violating the conservation of energy. The total absorption is only for the visible portion of the energy spectrum which is a very small part of the energy realm. Even so you agree that, that part of the absorption is completely accounted for and no violation of energy conservation occurs.
    ——————————————-

    No, I am not kidding.

    The energy of a photon in the visible spectrum is between 1,24eV to 12,4eV.

    The energy of a photon composed by electron-positron moving with the speed c of light is:

    E = 2.m.c² = 2x(0,5×10^6 eV/c²).c² = 10^6 eV

    Therefore the energy of the Dirac’s photon is at least 10^5 times larger than the photon of the visible spectrum.

    There is only one way to save the Dirac theory: we have to consider that the visible spectrum does not exist.
    But in this case I dont understand how can I read the comments posted here in the JoNP.

    regards
    wlad

  497. eernie1

    Wlad,
    You must be kidding that the absorption of Dirac photons by a black surface is indicative of violating the conservation of energy. The total absorption is only for the visible portion of the energy spectrum which is a very small part of the energy realm. Even so you agree that, that part of the absorption is completely accounted for and no violation of energy conservation occurs.
    As for Pamela- Boss, there are so many ways 10 MeV neutrons can be generated in nuclear transmutations and nucleus rearrangements your guess is as good as mine. Feynman diagrams will tell you the same thing. Pamela hit her solutions with a sledge hammer and like lightening produced some neutrons of varying energy.

  498. Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in September 30th, 2014 at 8:34 AM

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    As you know, I publish all your comments, even when I do not agree with your opinions. The sole comments of you that we spam are the ones in which appear phrases that we deem offensive against scientists that adhere to the Standard Model. Any comment is welcome, independently from the text, so far it does not show lack of respect for anybody who works seriously in the field. We spam as well comments that insult you.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    ————————————-

    Dear Andrea
    when a scientist betrays the scientific method, neglecting or rejecting some experiments which deny the Standard Model in which he believes, the lack of respect is of the own scientist against himself and against to the scientific method.

    I dont think to reject scientific experiments can be considered a serious attitude

    The serious and acceptable attitude is to be loyal to the scientific method, being honest, in order to recognize when the Standard Model is denied by some experiment, and to confess it.

    So, when a scientist refuses to accept any experiment which denies the Standard Model, the lack of respect is not mine when I call him a betrayer.

    regards
    wlad

  499. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    There is nothing that can’t be discussed with respect. This is why we will continue to spam any comment that is disrespectful toward anybody, independently from the issue.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  500. Wladimir Guglinski

    Eric Ashworth wrote in September 28th, 2014 at 2:02 PM

    Wladimir,
    Do you ever wonder why your theories are rejected when they do make sense and why paid physicists will not answer your questions.
    ———————————-

    Dear Eric,
    the eCat is being tested by academicians, and if I comment here my opinion on the reason why the physicists do not answer my questions, my comment will not be aproved for publication here.

    Some years in the future the scientific community will realize that I am right, and the physicists in the name of the Science will ask me forgiveness, as the Pope in the name of the Church asked pardon to Galileo, 400 years after his death.

    regards
    wlad

  501. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    As you know, I publish all your comments, even when I do not agree with your opinions. The sole comments of you that we spam are the ones in which appear phrases that we deem offensive against scientists that adhere to the Standard Model. Any comment is welcome, independently from the text, so far it does not show lack of respect for anybody who works seriously in the field. We spam as well comments that insult you.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  502. eernie1

    Wlad,
    I agree completely with you when you state there are numerous methods to obtain cold fusion. However I would change it a little to say there are numerous methods to obtain energy from the nucleus and I have so stated in a number of previous blogs. We have already succeeded through hot fusion of Hydrogen and cold fission of Uranium, Plutonium and Thorium. Nature does it many ways through radioactivity. I think it is easy to predict that through insight provided by people like you and other researchers, other investigators will succeed in the future to uncover other methods. Success always unlocks the door to further success by providing incentives.

  503. Wladimir Guglinski

    eernie1 wrote in September 29th, 2014 at 3:31 PM

    Dear Wlad,
    I do not understand your argument about the violation of the energy-mass relationship. Dirac accounts for all the energy waves resulting from mass conversion produced by epo interactions. By the way, many experiments show that photons can be divided, enhanced(doubled in frequency)changed in polarization character, reflected and otherwise manipulated without annihilation. What do you mean when you say it strikes a surface? This will be my last comment on this subject.
    —————————————————

    Eernie,
    when the light bits a black surface, the photon is 100% annihilated, all its energy is absorbed by the surface and converted to heat.

    And from Dirac’s theory the energy of the positron-electron photon is several times biggest than the energy of the light converted to heat.

    regards
    wlad

  504. Italo R.

    Dear Dr. Rossi, have you already seen this site?

    https://pulsodream.com/en/index.html

    If you have already been informed, discard please this mine.

    Ragards,
    Italo R.

  505. Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.:
    I lost your comment for a mistake, it is gone lost in the spam when I forwarded it for publication. Sorry for that. Anyway: you asked which kind of support the Professors of the ITP asked to Prof of other institutions.
    Answer: I do not know, but we will read on the report, I think. It is totally futile to make suppositions, let’s wait for the report and eventually read it.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  506. Wladimir Guglinski

    Dear Eric,
    a new paper suggests that the Universe can be like a Swiss Cheese, as I said some days ago.

    The name the physicists are calling such Swiss Cheese is “multiple universes”.
    See figure in the link:
    http://www.inovacaotecnologica.com.br/noticias/noticia.php?artigo=inflacao-cosmica-balanca-multiverso-ganha-firmeza&id=010130140929#.VCnGcRYUpbE

    The original paper is published here:
    http://arxiv.org/abs/1409.6530
    The new astronomical observation is eliminating the hypothesis of inflationary universe, and therefore it disproves the Big-Bang theory.

    .

    Now,
    if the physisists will finally realize that light can move with speed very lower than c=300.000km/s in the dark matter existing in the space between the multiple universes, they will conclude that the system for measuring the distance between the galaxies is wrong, and this is the reason why from the current theories the galaxies would have to be expelled under the action of the centripetal force.

    regards
    wlad

    http://arxiv.org/abs/1409.6530

  507. Wladimir Guglinski

    eernie1 wrote in September 29th, 2014 at 11:03 AM

    Wlad,
    My theory of LENR depends greatly on some of the principals of the Dirac theory. One aspect considers that the electrons that make up the electron sphere of an atom originate from the epos contained within one of the neutrons in the nucleus. This creates a proton within the nucleus and the remaining positron of the epo gives the nucleus its + charge. The electron, depending upon the number of nucleons and their make up(ratio of neutrons to protons) remains external to the nucleus sphere within a specific distance and with an equilibrium energy. If the external electron is then forced back into the nucleus(electron capture)the result is generation of a Beta+- emission with the subsequent ejection of the captured electron and either the formation of an isotope or transmutation to another atom dependent on the ratio of neutrons to protons in a specific atomic nucleus along with a neutrino+- and a photon of various energies dependent upon the angle with which the electron approaches the nucleon inside the nucleus. Forcing the electron(most likely a 1s electron) back into the nucleus can be accomplished by applying a negative field to the exterior of the atom’s electron sphere which transmits its effect to the inner electrons through field effects. I call this the Fermi-Alvarez effect since they both were involved with formulating the theory and performing tests to verify the phenomena.
    ——————————————–

    Eernie,

    1- I think there are several different mechanisms for cold fusion, instead of only one. Each mechanism depends on the conditions used in the experiment

    2- How do you explain the emission of neutrons with energy 10MeV in Pamela Mosier-Boss experiment?

    In his paper Neutron Emission in the Cold Fusion Phenomenon, Hideo Kozima eliminates one of the d-d fusion as possible explanation for cold fusion:

    “The neutron energy spectra extending up to about 10 MeV and the existence of the CFP in protium systems exclude the CFP in protium systems exclude the d-d fusion from fundamental nuclear reactions responsible for events in this phenomenon.”
    http://www.google.com.br/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&ved=0CEMQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.geocities.jp%2Fhjrfq930%2FPapers%2Fpaperr%2Fpaperr28.pdf&ei=g7spVNaiAYqF8gG90IHQCA&usg=AFQjCNGHDYJjh5hIgwj-t2VRXD6euoKMew&sig2=lfbBJ8S2pNeT2Hx61pJyng&bvm=bv.76247554,d.b2U

    In the Discussion and Conclusion Kozima says:
    The occurrence of the nuclear reactions resulting in neutron emission in protium and deuterium systems is a decisive evidence of new mechanisms other than d-d reactions supposed to be a cause of the CPF by the pioneers of this wonderful field

    However,
    such conclusion can be wrong, because perhaps the excess energy of the neutrons emitted can be due to the energy of the helical trajectory of the electron, not considered in the standard theories, as I show in the article available in Peswiki:
    How zitterbewegung contributes for cold fusion in Pamela Mosier-Boss experiment
    http://peswiki.com/index.php/Article:_How_zitterbewegung_contributes_for_cold_fusion_in_Pamela_Mosier-Boss_experiment

    See the Fig. 9, where the electron loses its helical trajectory when occurs the fusion p+e=n:
    http://peswiki.com/index.php/Image:AAAfig9-coldFUSION-pamelaMOSIERboss.gif

    As you may realize,
    to solve such question of the emission of neutrons with 10MeV is fundamental for the understanding of several experiments in the field of cold fusion.

    regards
    wlad

  508. eernie1

    Dear Wlad,
    You continue to misrepresent or read something into my remarks that are not there. You are the one insisting upon the annihilation of the epos as a function of the process and the annihilation of any subsequence photons. You criticize Dirac’s theory based on his relativistic treatment of the Schrodinger equation. Since you insist on not reading into his theories, how can you criticize them? He hardly compares them or can they be compared to any religious form since they are deterministic rather than philosophic.
    I do not understand your argument about the violation of the energy-mass relationship. Dirac accounts for all the energy waves resulting from mass conversion produced by epo interactions. By the way, many experiments show that photons can be divided, enhanced(doubled in frequency)changed in polarization character, reflected and otherwise manipulated without annihilation. What do you mean when you say it strikes a surface? This will be my last comment on this subject.

  509. Dear Andrea and Readers,

    Warning for fraudulent websites claiming ECAT partnership
    29 Sep 2014/in ECAT News/by ECAT
    It has come to our knowledge that a fraudulent website “Pulsodream” has surfaced on the Internet. They are illegally seeking investments related to ECAT products by Leonardo Corporation. “Pulsodream” do NOT have any licenses or rights to sell or market the ECAT under Leonardo Corporation, NOR representing any other Licensee of Leonardo Corporation.

    “Pulsodream” is a total fraud and has been reported to the appropriate authorities.

    Please be aware.

    /The ECAT Team

    - See more at: http://ecat.com/news/warning-for-fraudulent-websites-claiming-ecat-partnership

    Yours Sincerely,
    Magnus Holm,
    Hydro Fusion Ltd

  510. Andrea Rossi

    Magnus:
    Thank you for the repetition. Our specialists have discovered that the Pulso Dream website, apparently from Russia, is in reality directed from Greece. We are continuing to investigate the real source to file a suit.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  511. eernie1

    Wlad,
    My theory of LENR depends greatly on some of the principals of the Dirac theory. One aspect considers that the electrons that make up the electron sphere of an atom originate from the epos contained within one of the neutrons in the nucleus. This creates a proton within the nucleus and the remaining positron of the epo gives the nucleus its + charge. The electron, depending upon the number of nucleons and their make up(ratio of neutrons to protons) remains external to the nucleus sphere within a specific distance and with an equilibrium energy. If the external electron is then forced back into the nucleus(electron capture)the result is generation of a Beta+- emission with the subsequent ejection of the captured electron and either the formation of an isotope or transmutation to another atom dependent on the ratio of neutrons to protons in a specific atomic nucleus along with a neutrino+- and a photon of various energies dependent upon the angle with which the electron approaches the nucleon inside the nucleus. Forcing the electron(most likely a 1s electron) back into the nucleus can be accomplished by applying a negative field to the exterior of the atom’s electron sphere which transmits its effect to the inner electrons through field effects. I call this the Fermi-Alvarez effect since they both were involved with formulating the theory and performing tests to verify the phenomena.
    Regards.

  512. Wladimir Guglinski

    eernie1 wrote in September 28th, 2014 at 10:51 PM

    1)———————
    Wlad,
    We are not talking about electron positron annihilation where the combination mass is converted to energy. It is well known that it results in photons of 1MeV. You didn’t have to calculate it. Are you trying to dazzle me with your knowledge of math?
    —————————————–

    No, dear Eernie.
    I am speaking about the energy-mass conservation law

    When a photon formed by electron-positron hits a surface and is annihilated due to to the collision, all the energy of the photon is transfered to the surface.

    Therefore,
    the Dirac’s photon composed by electron-positron violates the energy-mass conservation law.

    .

    2)——————————–
    I was talking about the results of epo interactions within a physical system where the relationship of electron wave to positron wave produced a wave of a frequency which depended upon all the characteristics of the system.
    ———————————-

    And I am not interested in a theory which works only in those conditions interested to the author (Dirac) and his followers, but it fails in others fundamental aspect, as for instance the conservation of the energy-mass.

    .

    3)——————————
    If you insist that only complete annihilation is the only outcome of epo reactions, we cannot continue discussion.
    ——————————–

    And I cannot bamboozle myself by supposing that the photon does not suffer complete annihllation when it hits a surface, since it is stopped due to the collision and its velocity becomes zero.

    Dirac theory would be very good if the photons were not annihilated with he hits a surface (when they do not have reflection, refraction, etc).

    Unfortunatelly,
    dear Eernie,
    the photon has total annihilation. And I can not pretend it does not happen, just to please the followers of the Dirac theory.]

    I can believe in phantasies, but not when they belong to the field of the science.

    .

    4)—————————–
    If you want to get into a math contest, don’t start with basic relationships. You can get them in any first year physics manual. I don’t appreciate spending time reading perhaps your misinterpretation of my statements. Where do you think those frequencies you mentioned came from. When I was doing electron spin absorption studies in free radicals with magnetic alignments one of the prominent absorption bands was in the 300 GHz region of the spectrum. Please read Dirac’s theory.
    ——————————–

    I cannot waste my time reading a theory proposed by an author who pretends that some phenomena of the Nature do not exist.

    What Dirac proposed is not a scientific theory. Instead of, he actually proposed something like a religious dogma.
    He believed that Nature works only with four particles, because, as you said, “he also believed that the smallest number of proposed particles was the best approach to describing a physical system( Four fundamental particles in his analogy)”.

    Unfortunatelly,
    the Nature does not shares the Dirac belief, and she uses more than four particles (probably because she came to the conclusion that it is impossible to produce all the phenomena by the use of only four particles).
    If the Dirac’s dream would be possible, be yourself sure that the Nature would use it, since she always uses the most simple solutions.

    Regarding to your other words: “He would not be to happy with your use of all the different forms you use to describe your analogy”, I am not interested if Dirac would be happy, or not.
    I have concluded that it is the unique way so that to explain all the phenomena.

    The best would be if Dirac would complain to the Nature, saying: “I am not happy with your use of all those different forms you use to produce the phenomena”

    And she would simply reply to him:
    “Sorry, dear Dirac, I cannot produce all the phenomena I need with only four particles, as you did”

    regards
    wlad

  513. eernie1

    Wlad,
    We are not talking about electron positron annihilation where the combination mass is converted to energy. It is well known that it results in photons of 1MeV. You didn’t have to calculate it. Are you trying to dazzle me with your knowledge of math? I was talking about the results of epo interactions within a physical system where the relationship of electron wave to positron wave produced a wave of a frequency which depended upon all the characteristics of the system. If you insist that only complete annihilation is the only outcome of epo reactions, we cannot continue discussion. If you want to get into a math contest, don’t start with basic relationships. You can get them in any first year physics manual. I don’t appreciate spending time reading perhaps your misinterpretation of my statements. Where do you think those frequencies you mentioned came from. When I was doing electron spin absorption studies in free radicals with magnetic alignments one of the prominent absorption bands was in the 300 GHz region of the spectrum. Please read Dirac’s theory.

  514. Wladimir Guglinski

    eernie1 wrote in Sep eernie1
    September 28th, 2014 at 11:24 AM

    Wlad,

    For your other inquiry, Is this a trick question? Of course the spectrum between 3KHZ and 300GHZ can be generated by the epos.
    ————————————————–

    The mass of the electron and positron is m= 0,5×10^6 eV/c²
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_rest_mass

    The energy of a photon composed by electron-positron moving with the speed c of light is:

    E = 2.m.c² = 2x(0,5×10^6 eV/c²).c² = 10^6 eV

    The energy of the electromagnetic wave with frequence 3Kz is 12,4peV = 12,4×10^-12 e/V = 10^-11eV

    So, the energy of a photon composed by positron-electron is 10^6/10^-11 = 10^17 times larger then the photon with frequence 3Kz.

    .

    The situation is worst with photons with extremelly low frequence, with 3Hz, which energy is 12,4feV.

    Their energy is E = 12,4×10^-15eV = 10^-14eV
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_spectrum

    So, the relation between the energy of the positron-electron photon and the photon with extremely low energy is:

    10^6 / 10^-14 = 10^20

    regards
    wlad

  515. Andrea Rossi

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  516. Alessandro Coppi

    Hi Andrea, I was waiting for a message with capital letters, but not this one!

    …ch’anco tardi a venir non ti sia grave.

    Alessandro Coppi

  517. Andrea Rossi

    Alessandro Coppi:
    He,he,he..
    A.R.

  518. Eric Ashworth

    Wladimir, Thanks for your reply regarding my thoughts and your comment about having no time to dwell upon that which you are unable to prove as I know you are busy. I find your comments interesting and food for thought. As for Dirac I was unaware that he distilled physics down to four particles. My simple understanding is that there are only four major densities within nature. Solid-Liquid-Gas-Aether. Three of them being comprised of Aether substance which has the least density when as an unstructured mass. To me the figuer four runs throughout nature. As an after thought and I am curious. Do you ever wonder why your theories are rejected when they do make sense and why paid physicists will not answer your questions. I was once asked in a discussion what’s the difference between a secret and a mystery I said “very little” with no further comment. Best Regards Eric Ashworth.

  519. eernie1

    Wlad,
    Dirac believed he could explain the laws of Nature with his four particles. IMO he did a good job. HE thought that adding more would only over complicate the issues.
    For your other inquiry, Is this a trick question? Of course the spectrum between 3KHZ and 300GHZ can be generated by the epos. Superconductivity and semiconductors are explained by electron-positive holes and pairing of entangled electrons which are a manifestation of epo interactions as a pipeline for electron-positive hole movement without environmental interaction(resistance).Do you have a reason to believe this cannot be accomplished? By the way, have we beaten this subject to death yet?

  520. Italo R.

    Dear Dr. Rossi

    Only for joke: you have to learn chinese language, too..:-))

    Mandarin Regards,
    Italo R.

  521. Andrea Rossi

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    WARM REGARDS,
    DR ANDREA ROSSI, CEO OF LEONARDO CORPORATION

  522. Pietro F.

    .. se nessuno l’ha ancora informata:
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    Buon lavoro

    Pietro F.

  523. Andrea Rossi

    PIETRO F.:
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    DR ANDREA ROSSI, CEO OF LEONARDO CORPORATION

  524. Piero Mongioj

    Dear Andrea,
    Are they concerned with you?

    https://pulsodream.com/en/index.html

    Un caro saluto,
    Piergiorgio

  525. Andrea Rossi

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    DR. ANDREA ROSSI, CEO OF LEONARDO CORPORATION

  526. Wladimir Guglinski

    UVS.Seshavatharam wrote in September 24th, 2014 at 8:16 AM

    Wladimir Guglinski Sir

    Please let me have a couple of days. I will forward the mail to my professor: lnsrirama@gmail.com

    yours sincerely,
    UVS.Seshavatharam
    ——————————————

    COMMENT:

    Two couple of days have gone, and nobody did come here to explain why even-even nuclei with Z=N have magnetic moment zero, according to the Standard Nuclear Physics

    The nuclear physicist Dr S.Lakshminarayana did not come.
    And also did not come the professor invited by Dr Seshavatharam.

    Dear Mr Jr:
    you use to claim that current Theoretical Modern Physics is able to explain all the physical phenomena

    So,
    may you tell to us why the nuclear physicist Dr S.Lakshminarayana and the professor invited by Dr Seshavatharam did not come here to explain why even-even nuclei with Z=N have magnetic moment zero ?

    Perhaps they did not come because they do not know that your stupid definition of nuclear magnetic moment which violates a fundamental law of Physics, according to which the magnetic moment of the even-even nuclei with Z=N is, BY DEFINITION, equal to zero

    Mr JR
    please invite them to come here to share the solution proposed by you

    regards
    wlad

  527. Wladimir Guglinski

    eernie1 wrote in September 27th, 2014 at 11:03 AM

    he also believed that the smallest number of proposed particles was the best approach to describing a physical system( Four fundamental particles in his analogy). He would not be to happy with your use of all the different forms you use to describe your analogy.
    —————————-

    Eernie,
    science is not a question of taste

    A theoretical model must be able to describe the physical phenomena

    If the smallest number of proposed particles is not able to describe what we observe in the Nature, then we cannot keep our believe that “the smallest number of proposed particles was the best approach to describing a physical system”

    You did not respond to my question:

    The electromagnetic radio waves (frequence between 12,4 feV to 1,24meV) are also formed by positron-electron?

    regards
    wlad

  528. hrabal

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    first of all, thank you for what you did so far, it’s simply wonderful.

    Then a question:

    Could the 1M plant be used to give electricity power to houses or residential buildings?
    I wonder if it may be or will be suitable for giving power to small villages or other different kinds of communities.
    I believe the e-cat’s actual revolutionary strength lies in the use of single domestic units, but, as you said, it needs time for certifications, so I’m eager to see it working even in not a perfect situation to let it speak by itself and give impulse to others in spreading it’s use.

    high regards

    riccardo

  529. Andrea Rossi

    Hrabal:
    So far we are making industrial plants to make heat. One of the main goals of our R&D process is the production of electric energy. About domestic application, you already gave the answer. We are working also in that direction.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  530. eernie1

    Wlad,
    One other thought. You seem to be working in a 4 dimensional relativistic Riemann system space with only time as a non Abelian dimension. Since in such a space the geometry is spherically oriented, and is highly dependent on the velocity factors in the particle(massive or massless) motion, I think many of the values such as magnetic moments can vary continuously with time and what we measure is average or statistical values. This is the basis of many of the theories proposed in SQM, QED, QCD and Relativity. The interpretation of these effects IMO is what leads to the disagreements between scientists.

  531. eernie1

    Wlad,
    Dirac did use the phase differential among other considerations to explain why the electron did not fall into the nucleus. I don’t want to get into a discussion of fundamental criteria, but of course frequency is the number of times the fields of the particles(massive or massless)go from maximum to minimum per second. The variance can be achieved in a number of ways such as the amount of phase difference between interacting entities, angle of approach, dipole length, and many more physical relationships between various particles or waves. Dirac treated all systems as waves stating they all wave. All the above situations of course have been observed and investigated through multiple scientific programs and can explain all the observed frequencies. he also believed that the smallest number of proposed particles was the best approach to describing a physical system( Four fundamental particles in his analogy). He would not be to happy with your use of all the different forms you use to describe your analogy. Dirac was attacked by mainstream scientists(Heisenburg, Plank) using the same arguments you have presented to me. As you know mass and energy are interchangeable and can assume either form at different phases of existence. Please do not become as narrow minded as them?

  532. JCRenoir

    Another question: how is going on the work on the 1 MW plant?
    ICRenoir

  533. Andrea Rossi

    JC Renoir:
    I cannot answer to questions related to what happens inside the E-Cats, in positive or in negative. Nevertheless, I can answer to your question independently from the E-Cat operation.
    Electrical current is a flow of electrons through a medium plus a transmission of vibration induced by electrons bouncing against each other. This fact produces also a resistance, as if you kick many balls inside a pipe and they proceed in disorder making reciprocal obstacle : this of course makes their path less easy, which means that this produces a resistance, due to the mass od electrons, which are fermions, therefore carry matter ( while bosons carry only force). But: at very low temperatures electrons can team up in pairs so that their spin sums up to an integer number ( electrons have spin never integer, but always plus or minus 1/2, and electrons have spin 1/2): once they combine an integer spin they are turned into bosons ( bosons have spin integer) and bosons do not carry matter, so that their new status allows them to proceed in the condensed matter of the conductor without encountering resistance.
    If you want to understand better, can Google ” BCS Theory”.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  534. Curiosone

    Dear George:
    Excuse me for my late answer, but I read only now your comment of 22 september that answered to my comment regarding the “5 Stelle” position on the LENR.
    I am sorry to have misunderstood your position and I understand your reaction. I want also to say that I have given to your movement my vote, because I think that you are the sole political force not rooted by corruption. So I never intended to damage you, I just wanted to ask to Andrea Rossi his opinion about the financing of LENR by the government. What I wrote ( erroneously, as you explained) has been caused by the fact that in the internet ( please sdo not ask me where, because I do not remember) has been written in a journal that in the list of the waste of money spent by the government there were also 4 million euros given to somebody ( not specified) for R&D on the LENR that produced nothing. So I was curious to ask Andrea Rossi’s opinion, that’s all; I never wanted to damage you. Please go ahead with your good work,
    W.G.

  535. JCRenoir

    How can you explain that electrons do not find resistance in a superconductor ? Is this related to the Rossi Effect?
    JCRenoir

  536. Andrea Rossi

    JC Renoir:
    We are patiently fixing the problems step by step, improving the situation day by day. “Non mollare mai” ( Never give up).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  537. Wladimir Guglinski

    eernie1 wrote in September 25th, 2014 at 9:36 PM

    Wlad,
    Dirac explained that the spins(1/2) of the two particles were out of phase in the string and thereby could not combine.
    —————————

    Eernie,
    there is not in Theoretical Physics an explanation for the reason why the electron does not fall down within the proton

    If the solution proposed by Dirac based on the spins out of phase was acceptable, the theorists would also apply it as explanation why the electron does not falls down within the proton

    ,

    eernie1 wrote in September 26th, 2014 at 10:51 AM

    1) ——————-
    Of course the energy of the generated photon is dependent on its frequency(hv) The frequency of the emitted photon is dependent upon the method of interaction with the external force causing the phase transformation.
    —————————

    Eernie,
    this is the sort of phantasmagoric solution based on the Heisenberg phantasmagoric scientific criterium

    What would be the PHYSICAL MECHANISM capable to produce different frequencies in a photon composed by two corpuscles with the same mass???

    What is the physical mechanism reponsible for the frequency of such a photon??

    What is frequency ??

    Two particles with the same mass, moving always with the same speed c, cannot have different frequencies

    Dirac model of the photon is absurd, it makes no sence from the PHYSICAL VIEWPOINT

    But obviously, from the MATHEMATICAL viewpoint, one can propose any sort of nonsenses (from the PHYSICAL viewpoint), as Heisenberg did

    2) —————————–
    This allows photons to be created throughout the spectrum.
    ———————————

    No, it does not allow it
    The spectrum is possible only if the particle-antiparticle of a photon A have DIFFERENT masses of a particle-antiparticle of a photon B

    The frequency of a photon depends on the mass of the particle-antiparicle

    3) ———————
    All this can be derived by using the Dirac wave equation. Dirac was a quantum rebel since his theory disrupted many of the cornerstone ideas of the leading scientists and he was attacked often. But many of the observed atomic values were able to be derived using his formulas.
    ————————-

    Dirac supposed the aether formed by positron-electron because experiments showed that positrons are created in some reactions

    His theory can work better by considering that aether is formed by elementary particles of the aether (electricitons, magnetons, gravitions, etc)

    ,

    Eernie,
    1- as Dirac suppoosed the photon as a particle, how did he explain the wave feature of the photon?

    2- How did he explain the polarization of light following statistical laws?

    3- What about the electromagnetic waves with very low energy, in the infrared, microwave, and radio?

    The electromagnetic radio waves (frequence between 12,4 feV to 1,24meV) are also formed by positron-electron?

    regards
    wlad

  538. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    In my 40+ years of working in engineering, I have rarely seen a new installation go without problems. Would you characterize the more significant problems as:

    1. Failure by the developer to consider how the eCat was to preform in the customer’s environment?
    2. The Customer not clearly expressing his requirements and needs?
    3. Operator error?
    4. Installation errors?
    5. Performance problems?
    6. A rush to deliver the unit before it was completely tested?
    7. Combinations of the above?

  539. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    As you correctly say, it is impossible that an important plant does not have an initial period of assessment. Our plant is a very complex thing and we are making all the necessary work to deliver it respecting all the guarantees we gave to our Customer. Obviously this work is not public and in due time we will give the due information regarding the operation of the plant.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  540. Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Andrea,
    does the ITP have the optimized control systems and, if so, do they have access to the software, or did they just receive a basic drive ?
    Are they allowed to tamper with everything ?

    You continue to answer and comment everyday on this blog. You do this very strictly, even when there is not so much news. It is as if the world is pregnant and we can listen daily only to the heartbeat of the baby.
    I think lots of us are longing to see her/his face and hear the first cry.

    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  541. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    The report, I suppose, will define exactly the protocol of the test. I am not allowed to give any related information before the publication.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  542. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    Is the reluctance of the customer to allow observation of his production setup related to perhaps his not wanting to reveal some of his intellectual property involved in his program?

  543. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    The industry of the Customer is not a theater, nor a show room…it is an industry, with specific issues regarding safety, production and confidentiality. When visits will be allowed and at which conditions will be decided exclusively by the Customer, for obvious reasons and only when all will have been stabilized and consolidated.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  544. eernie1

    Wlad, Since the epo of Dirac is in the form of EM spinor fields, they can move as a massless unit such as the photon. Of course the energy of the generated photon is dependent on its frequency(hv) The frequency of the emitted photon is dependent upon the method of interaction with the external force causing the phase transformation. This allows photons to be created throughout the spectrum. All this can be derived by using the Dirac wave equation. Dirac was a quantum rebel since his theory disrupted many of the cornerstone ideas of the leading scientists and he was attacked often. But many of the observed atomic values were able to be derived using his formulas.

  545. The Wright Brothers took years after their first flight to make a public display their world changing invention. If you actually have something, you must know it will have a greater effect on our world than a mere aeroplane, and your name will describe a new age. Then again, if you have nothing to show after all these months, you must know your name will have other connotations.

    I’m glad I have other things to think about.

  546. Pietro F.

    Buongiorno ing. Rossi,

    il vostro cliente é un fornitore di servizi (tipo riscaldamento) o un produttore industriale?
    Your client is a provider of services (such as heating) or an industrial manufacturer?

    Buon lavoro

    Pietro F.

  547. Andrea Rossi

    Pietro F.:
    Our Customer is a manufacturer, and uses the 1 MW plant for his production.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  548. H-G Branzell

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    You say that a negative third party report will encounter no obstacles to be published by a reputable scientific journal. I beg to differ with that opinion. You have told us that a negative report would be one that finds a COP < 1 + error margins. Considering the very low interest that the established scientific community has shown in the Rossi effect I think that a negative report will meet with the same interest from the scientific journals as a report stating that apples are still falling to the ground in the autumn.
    Kind regards, H-G Branzell

  549. Andrea Rossi

    H-G Branzell:
    You may be right. Anyway, the report will be published by the ITP independently from the fact that it can be positive or negative.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  550. Andreas Moraitis

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    What would happen if the customer were forced to stop his production suddenly by some reason, so that the 1 MW plant would have to go in idle mode, without prior warning? Is there already a solution for such a scenario?

    Best regards,
    Andreas Moraitis

  551. Andrea Rossi

    Andreas Moraitis:
    Of course. Also is provided a solution in case of malfunction of the 1 MW plant, by means of a back up made using the traditional energy source.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  552. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I understand that you believe my previous comment about “poisons” was another attempt to extract information that you do not want to reveal — which it was. The question came up when I saw a video on Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor (LFTR)which claims to be much more efficient (compared to uranium reactors) at using the available nuclear energy, that it is inherently safe and, if true, it might be a serious competitor to the Rossi Effect reactors for large scale energy production.

    In the video, the thorium is consumed, releasing the energy. At some point in time, you will reveal how the energy is generated with the Rossi Effect. Why not now?

    In the future, I suspect, you will describe what is required in the reconditioning process to recycle the fuel and to ensure it can be done in a safe and environmentally responsible manner. These actions will be required before the Rossi Effect reactors will be publically accepted as being among the viable energy production technologies. So you will answer the questions, it is only a matter of when.

    And of course, I must comment that my reaction to your response could have been either positive or negative. (LOL)

  553. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Surely in due time and situations we will give due information.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  554. Wladimir Guglinski

    eernie1 wrote in September 25th, 2014 at 9:36 PM

    Wlad,
    Dirac explained that the spins(1/2) of the two particles were out of phase in the string and thereby could not combine. When they were in phase(Caused by an external force)the spins added and formed a photon(spin 1) which then traveled at the velocity of light down the connected strings.
    —————————

    Eernie
    then all the photons would have to have the same energy, since the electron and the positron have always the same mass, and they always move with the speed of light.
    But each photon has a different energy.

    In QRT the particle is formed by the agglutination of positive electricitons. The more quantity is of electricitions, heavier is the energy of the photon. While the antiparticle is formed by the glue of negative electricitons.

    2)
    This is why the photon always assumes the velocity of light with respect to the position of the observer since the rotation of the EM fields in the strings was at the speed of light. He would say your photon was the combined fields of a positron and an electron.
    —————————–

    As the electron and the positron have mass, having the speed of light they would have infinite mass, according to the Einstein’s equation.

    Besides, an aether formed by positron-electron would be detecable by experiments

    regards
    wlad

  555. eernie1

    Wlad,
    Dirac explained that the spins(1/2) of the two particles were out of phase in the string and thereby could not combine. When they were in phase(Caused by an external force)the spins added and formed a photon(spin 1) which then traveled at the velocity of light down the connected strings. This is why the photon always assumes the velocity of light with respect to the position of the observer since the rotation of the EM fields in the strings was at the speed of light. He would say your photon was the combined fields of a positron and an electron.

  556. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    In conventional nuclear reactors, there are elements and isotopes generated during the normal nuclear reaction which eventually “poison” the reaction, thus necessitating the removal and reprocessing of the nuclear rods.

    1. Is there an equivalent in the Rossi Effect reactor?

    2. Are “poisons” created or generated which require the reprocessing of the fuel?

    3. Or does the portion of the “fuel” that is active in the reaction disappear or become inactive/ineffective?

  557. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Do you understand that this comment of yours ( and my answer) can make of Orsobubu a permanent LOL- contortionist ?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    P.S.: Steve, my friend: I am not laughing at you, I am laughing WITH you. You understand why, I’m sure.

  558. Giuliano Bettini

    Roberto:
    eventually, I think, if the results are positive, Italy will receive a “golden tapir”, to have lost an opportunity.
    http://nonciclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Tapiro_d‘oro.jpg
    Regards,
    Giuliano Bettini.

  559. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    Maybe.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  560. Dear Dr. Rossi,

    You have stated that the Third Party Report could have positive or negative results in their summary. A third possibility is that the results of their testing could be reported as “inconclusive” due to repeatability problems with inconsistent startup and shutdown issues, or sudden shutdown or temperature control variations. Based on your current research and testing do you feel that an “inconclusive” summary judgement in the Third Party Report is unlikely or is this a probability due to the technology not yet being mature?

    Again I wish you the best of luck to counter the 1,000 scientists who say “Climate change is not statistically” real. The earth needs your help.

    Best Regards,

    Daniel G. Zavela

  561. Andrea Rossi

    Daniel G. Zavela:
    I do not know.
    Thank you for your kind wishes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  562. eernie1

    Wlad,
    My question was based on your claim to have proposed a particle antiparticle structure for space. That is what Dirac proposed when he suggested space was comprised by the electron(particle) positron(antiparticle)combined in an EM field string. Can you elaborate on how this is different from your proposal?

  563. Wladimir Guglinski

    Wladimir Guglinski
    September 25th, 2014 at 3:55 PM

    eernie1 wrote in September 25th, 2014 at 10:43 AM

    Dear Wlad,
    How does your theory of the aether differ from that of Dirac. He proposed that the aether consists of strings composed of a positron and an electron whose form is an electromagnetic wave(epo) rotating at the speed of light.
    —————————————–

    eernie,
    but the main difference between my theory of aether and that of Dirac is because his theory is impossible.
    Because an electron and a positron have fusion when they meet together, producing pure energy. The Universe filled by the aether conceived by Dirac would instantaneously explode in a big bang.

    In my model of aether the particle and antiparticle have no fusion, because the repulsive gravitons avoid them to fuse together.

    Thanks to the repulsive gravitons the particle and antiparticle of the photon do not have fusion.

    Such a question was not solved by the authors of the paper published in 2013 by the European Physical Journal, because in spite of they had proposed that the space is filled by particles and antiparticles, however they do not explain why the particle and antiparticle do not fuse together.
    http://link.springer.com/article/10.1140%2Fepjd%2Fe2013-30578-7#page-1

    The reason why the authors of the paper published by the European Physica Journal did not solve such question is because they did not conceive a complete structure for the aether.
    They proposed an ad hoc theory, so that to explain the experiment published in 2012 by the journal Nature, which proved that the space is not empty.
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/Light-created-from-vacuum-shows-empty-space-a-myth/articleshow/10789049.cms
    As because the experiment showed that space is not empty, and it is able to create light, the authors of the paper published by the European Physical Journal felt the need of proposing a structure for the aether.

    Unlike, my model of the aether had been conceived taking in consideration several questions, as the structure of the photon, the structure of elementary particles as the proton and electron, and the structure of the atomic nuclei.
    That’s why I arrived to a complete structure for the aether

    regards
    wlad

  564. eernie1

    Wlad,
    Are you saying that Dirac is wrong? The epo is totally existing as an EM field in the string until it exits the string and converts to what is perceived as mass or as an ejected photon traveling at the speed of sound. The mass differential in the conversion of a neutron to a proton is due to relativistic velocity considerations between the quarks in the nucleus. Please review his theory.
    Regards.

  565. Dear Andrea.
    Thank you for responding. My query in a nut shell is that alternating current and its associated accompanying magnetic field are associated with a REVERSAL over a cycle and as time goes by.
    DC does not provide this. The ECAT does not work on DC, only on AC.
    I cannot see that a gas heated ECAT is associated with any
    REVERSAL effect. Therefore, since DC does not work then why
    should gas heating? I hope you can provide the missing link?

    Keep up the good research and the very best wishes to you.
    Jean Pierre.

  566. Andrea Rossi

    Jean Pierre:
    Sorry, I cannot give you this information.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  567. Wladimir Guglinski

    eernie1 wrote in September 25th, 2014 at 10:43 AM

    Dear Wlad,
    How does your theory of the aether differ from that of Dirac. He proposed that the aether consists of strings composed of a positron and an electron whose form is an electromagnetic wave(epo) rotating at the speed of light.
    ————————

    eernie,
    a space composed by positron and electron makes no sense, because they both have mass, and the space would interact with the matter with motion, having friction.

    Besides, the light could not travel in such a space

    regards
    wlad

  568. gillana

    Dear A. Rossi
    Considering the type of reaction absolutely abnormal, compared to the classical nuclear fusion (not hard gamma rays nor neutrons), and any other reaction capable of a COP> 1, it is understandable that scientists are very careful before producing a report on an accredited peer reviewed magazine, for which the delays are understandable. Report in question is confined to verifying that the energy produced is greater than the energy provided or could provide a scientific analysis of the data that may bring to a theoretical explanation of the phenomenon?
    Many regards
    Gillana

  569. Andrea Rossi

    Gillana:
    I will be able to answer when the report will be delivered. I have not a clue. I know that the Professors of the ITP asked help from other important institutions. We’ll see.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  570. alutam

    Andrea,
    Problems?!
    Please repeat after me:
    “I don’t have problems, I have opportunities!”
    Doesn’t that feel better?
    Best regards.

  571. Andrea Rossi

    Alutam:
    I don’t have problems, I have opportunities ( x 10)
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  572. Dear Andrea,
    (Off-topic)A recent physics news: black holes don’t exist (http://uncnews.unc.edu/2014/09/23/carolinas-laura-mersini-houghton-shows-black-holes-exist/).

    They performed a coupled hydrodynamics and general relativity numerical simulation of stellar collapse, including also self-consistently the effects of Hawking radiation emission. The result: an event horizon never forms, the star loses mass by Hawking radiation just fast enough to prevent horizon (black hole) formation. To an external observer whose time is much dilated in comparison to the object itself, it looks like a very dark almost holelike region, but internally what happens is that the star collapses to a minimum size and then bounces back because it loses a lot of mass by Hawking radiation. The bounce back looks internally like an explosion (or “fireworks” as the authors say), but to an external observer is looks like the faint Hawking radiation which slowly evaporates the object away.

    Probably a lively discussion among physicists emerges from this. To me the analysis looks good and seems to make physical sense.
    r:/pekka

  573. Andrea Rossi

    Pekka Janhunen:
    Very interesting.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  574. barty

    Dear Andrea,

    thank you for that information. It’s good to hear that this problems are “only” minor problems.
    Such kind of problems you always have to resolve ;)

    But it is good to hear that the problems are not major resp. “critical” about your “rossi effect” (not working at general or something else).

    Good luck and best regards from germany!
    barty

  575. Andrea Rossi

    Barty:
    Thank you for your kind attention.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  576. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    What you have in your installation program are bugs which are uncovered in any first field test. Just look at Apple with their introduction of the I-phone6 or Boeing with the 787. Nothing unusual.

  577. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Yes, exactly; anyway, in my life I have designed and installed hundreds of industrial plants, never had the luck to see one pass through the first period of several months without troubles. This is NOT an exception.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  578. barty

    Dear Andrea,

    are the problems your team has to resolve minor or major problems?
    Maybe you only have to adjust some values to fit your customers needs?

    Best regards from germany
    barty

  579. Andrea Rossi

    Barty:
    We have a lot of minor problems; obviously I cannot give the particulars; also, we have to adjust the plant to the particular needs of the Customer, as you correctly said, therefore, as usually, from problems are born more problems. Lot of work to do.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  580. Dear Andrea,
    Perhaps your robot has dumped my two previous emails to you at JONP (Rossi Blog Reader) The first was on 20Sept 2014 and the
    second was on 24 Sept 2014. I am well-disposed to both you and your research. I would at least very much appreciate an acknowledgement of the arrival of these two emails even if you
    are not prepared to answer my question. I have been following JONP comments for about three years now and this is the first time that I have submitted a question to you. I am like curiousone (ie curious) and have only good intentions. Jean Pierre

  581. Andrea Rossi

    Jean Pierre:
    We did not receive your former comments, probably the robot anti-spam has eaten them. Please send your comments again, possibly from another address, or be sure you have not links with advertising.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  582. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Thank you for your response regarding the 1 MW plant. Are you still planning on allowing visits to the plant in the near future?

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  583. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    In the near future is impossible. In future yes, but I cannot give a scheduling, because it depends on what the Customer thinks: we are not in the factory of Industrial Heat, we are in the factory of a Customer. Presently we have problems to resolve.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  584. eernie1

    Dear Wlad,
    How does your theory of the aether differ from that of Dirac. He proposed that the aether consists of strings composed of a positron and an electron whose form is an electromagnetic wave(epo) rotating at the speed of light. One end of the string is positive and the other end is negative and the strings aligned +- throughout space. This is the reason for instantaneous causality and gravitational attraction. In this sea of epos there exists clumps of epos that make up the particles we call quarks that make up the protons and neutrons of the atomic nucleus. The fundamental particle is the neutron that degenerates into the proton with the emission of an electron from one of the epos inside the neutron and which is then captured as a field rotating about the nucleus. All other characteristics of matter can also be explained both empirically and mathematically by further analysis of his analogy. His theory also contains a possible quantum state below the lowest allowed energy level(Deep Dirac Level(DDL))which can explain the proposed Hydrino.

  585. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    What’s the current status of the E-Cat plant you have installed at your customer’s site?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  586. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    We are resolving problems, in a preliminary phase. It will take at least one year before considering consolidated the situation.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  587. Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi, Chris Johnson,

    Here is the link to abstracts from the Supercritical CO2 conference:

    http://www.swri.org/4org/d18/sco2/abstracts.htm

    Please turn on the lights!

    Joseph Fine

  588. Andrea Rossi

    Joseph Fine:
    Thank you!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  589. Wladimir Guglinski

    ON THE FORMATION OF THE UNIVERSE

    Dear Eric,
    the Big-Bang theory was conceived from the idea that the space is empty, and therefore not suitable to have contraction.

    By considering the space filled by aether, we are able to suppose that the Universe is like a Swiss cheese , where the holes are the galaxies (with aether with low density), and the cheese is the dark matter (aether with big density).

    Our system to measure the distance between stars works well only within our Milky Way galaxy.

    As the light moves slowly in the dark matter, the method to measure the size and the distance between the Earth and stars in other galaxies is wrong.

    So, suppose that the cosmologists calculate as being R the radius of a galaxy. Such size R is based on the calculation taking the speed of light as being c=300.000km/s.
    Therefore the velocity of the stars situated in the perimeter of the galaxy is v= w.R , where “w” is the angular velocity.
    The observations are showing that with such velocity v= w.R the stars of the galaxy would have to be expelled by the centripetal force.

    And suppose that the speed of the light in the dark matter is actually c=30.000km/s, i.e., 10 times slowly.

    The angular velocity w of the rotation of that galaxy is not changed by the error of calculation, because the time for the galaxy to make a full turn does not change.

    However, as the speed of light in the dark matter is c/10, and not “c” as the astronomers use, then the radius of the galaxy is actually R/10.
    So, the true velocity of the stars in the perimeter of that galaxy is v= w.R/10, a velocity 10 times slowly than the cosmologists are calculating.
    And therefore the stars in the periphery of the galaxy will not be expelled, as wrongly believe the cosmologists.

    Obviously I have taken as c=30.000km/s the speed of light in the dark matter only as an example, because we actually dont know what is the true speed of light in the dark matter.

    So, I think the cosmologists have to change their ideas with respect to the formation of the Universe by discarding what the idea of Einstein’s empty space had suggested to them up to now.
    They have to start to consider the aether in their reflections on the formation of the Universe.

    However, it is hard to hope they will do it.

    regards
    wlad

  590. Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in September 24th, 2014 at 8:46 PM

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Of course the Journal of Nuclear Physics is open to publish any answer or comment the EUROPEAN PHYSICAL JOURNAL deems opportune to react with vs your declaration.
    =================================

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    of course I will enjoy very much if the Editor of the EJP come here to explain why I have not the right of the paternity on the proposal for the structure of space formed by particle-antiparticle, published in my Quantum Ring Theory in 2006, and the merit for the paternity is actually due to the authors who published their paper in 2013 in the European Physical Journal.

    However, as a thief never comes back to the place he had stolen, I have doubts if the Editor-in-Chief of the European Physical Journal decides to come here to explain the reasons why the paternity of the idea is not mine.

    regards
    wlad

  591. Chris Johnson

    Dr. Rossi,

    Are you aware of the Echogen supercritical CO2 electrical generator? The first units are in final industrial testing at Dresser Rand, a large steam turbine company.

    See http://www.echogen.com/documents/waste-heat-to-power-applications.pdf and http://www.echogen.com/our-solution/

    In their testing, they use a heat exchanger in the 400C flue gasses to drive the closed CO2 loop. I’m sure that it would be even more efficient with the higher temperatures available with the Hot Cat. Their test units are 300KWe, but they are working on a 7.5MWe unit.

    GE has licensed the technology for marine applications, and Dresser Rand is an investor in the company. They had a presentation at the DOE supercritical CO2 symposium earlier this month (see http://www.netl.doe.gov/File%20Library/Events/2014/co2%20power%20cycles/Supercritical-Symposium-program-2014-FINAL.pdf) .

    Best Regards,
    Chris Johnson

  592. Andrea Rossi

    Chris Johnson:
    Thank you for the interesting information,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  593. Wladimir Guglinski

    LAW SUIT AGAINST THE European Physical Journal, BECAUSE OF PLAGIARISM

    Dears readers of the JoNP

    In 2013 the Eureopean Physical Journal had published a paper where the authors proposed a structure for the space, which would be formed by particle and antiparticle.

    Such structure of the space (aether) formed by particle and antiparticle was proposed in my book Quantum Ring Theory, published in 2006.

    The Editor-in-Chief of the EPJ did not accepted my suggestion so that to publish a note in the journal, in order to credit to me the paternity of the theory.

    I dont have money, so that to suit in law the European Physical Journal, by plagiarism.

    That’s why I went with an interpellation in court against the sbf Brazillian Society of Physics-SBF, where I require to the SBF to suit in law the European Physical Journal.

    My request has judicial merit, because according to the Statute of the SBF that entity has the obligation of taking care about the rights and interests of the Brazillian physicits.

    The Law Suit against the European Physical Journal is translated to English by the Google and published in the Peswiki link bellow:

    Law suit against European Physical Journal
    http://peswiki.com/index.php/Law_suit_against_European_Physical_Journal

    regards
    wlad

  594. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Of course the Journal of Nuclear Physics is open to publish any answer or comment the EUROPEAN PHYSICAL JOURNAL deems opportune to react with vs your declaration.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  595. Wladimir Guglinski

    THE FORMATION OF THE UNIVERSE

    Eric Ashworth wrote in September 24th, 2014 at 2:09 PM

    3. When people refer to dark matter are they referring to aether? because I would say this is a mistaken label.
    ==========================================

    Dear Eric,
    I dont think the Big-Bang is a good theory.

    In 1990 I supposed another mechanism for the formation of the Universe, by considering the space filled by aether, as follows.

    In the beggining, there was only aether.
    Due to the contraction because of the actuation of the gravity, in several places of the Universe the aether started to have a big density, under big pressure. Each of these places would become a galaxy.

    When the pressure in several points of those places became very high, suddenly the very dense aether started to have a collapse (a big implosion). In such implosion the aether was converted to the form of hydrogen (protons and electrons).
    Each of those points were stars.

    But each of those implosions consumed aether. In order that, in the space of each galaxy the density of the aether had a strong reduction.

    However, in the regions between two galaxies, in spite of the aether had a big contraction (and therefore it became very dense), nevertheless the pressure was not sufficient for the ignition of the implosions.
    Therefore in the regions between the galaxies there is today aether with very big density. And perhaps such very dense aether is just dark matter.

    The speed of light in the aether with big density (outside the galaxies) is very slowly than here in the interior of the galaxies, where we live, and where we make our experiments, by supposing that the density of the space is the same in the whole Universe, and where we measured the speed of light as being c=300.000km/s.
    So, our system of measuring the distances between the Earth and the stars is not correct.

    However, this is only speculation.
    And that’s why I have no interest to discuss it, since I cannot prove it.

    regards
    wlad

  596. Wladimir Guglinski

    Eric Ashworth wrote in September 24th, 2014 at 2:09 PM

    1. The understanding of an aether substance. Because aether has no charge and it only responds to empty space it is undetectable by equipment because equipment is not empty space.
    ============================================

    I think aether is undetectable by equipment because the elementary particles of the aether do not interact directly with the matter (atoms) via experiments with low speed. Aether does not interact even with light. The aether supplies the electricitons, magnetons, and gravitons for the formation of the body of the photon and its gravito-electromagnetic field. Such supply of particles and antiparticles by the aether is the unique interaction with the light, and so there is no way to detect the aether.

    Aether interacts with matter via experiments where the speed of the particle is near to the speed of light.
    For instance, the experiment which measured the growth of the mass of the electron moving very fast. The growth of mass according to Einstein’s equation is consequence of the interaction with the aether.

    2. Aether represents a value of absolute size. Empty space represents a value of absolute volume.
    =========================================

    Empty space does not exist.

    3. When people refer to dark matter are they referring to aether? because I would say this is a mistaken label.
    ==========================================

    I dont know what is dark matter.
    Such a hypothesis comes from the cosmology. I think that, as some misunderstandings are occurring in the atomic and subatomic levels, probably in cosmology also some mistakes are occurring.
    For instance, we dont know if the density of the aether is the same in the all regions of the universe far away of the presence of stars.
    In the case the density of the aether is larger in the perifery of the galaxies, this could explain why the stars are not expelled from the galaxies by the action of the centripetal force.

    However, I dont want to discuss on the puzzles of the cosmology, because we have so many puzzles in the atomic and subatomic levels, and we have to solve the earlier than the puzzles of the cosmology.

    3. Regards energy. This I believe is connected to a charge which is matter and of which is comprised of aether. The degree of energy is directly related to the velocity value of the charge. Compressed aether has more energy than that which is less compressed. Aether whether as a free substance or in the make-up of matter has an affinity for empty space.

    4. To provide for a duration of life between two pieces of matter with strong opposing charges there is need for a resonating barrier of aether matter able to expand and contract and thereby repulse each charge from the resonator thereby maintaining a necessary distance between the two opposing charges.
    ==========================================

    In my model of elementary particles, the electron does not fall dawn into the proton because the inner field Sp(e) of the electron has repulsion with the inner field Sp(p) of the proton.

    The attraction proton-electron is due only to the Coulomb attraction between their outer fields Sn(e) and Sn(p).

    When the outer field of the proton is perfurated, so that two protons share a common outer field, they do not experience the Coulomb repulsion, and this is the reason why there is no need the strong nuclear force for the aggregation of the nuclei. The nuclei are aggregated by magnetic forces.
    The reason why two protons cannot form a stable diproton is explained in my paper Stability of Light Nuclei, published here in JoNP:
    http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/Stability%20of%20light%20nuclei.pdf

    regards
    wlad

  597. Italo R.

    Dear Dr. Rossi, today it is Sunday and in this day people generally rest from own work.
    How are you passing the time today?
    Kind Regards,
    Italo R.

  598. Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.:
    You say that new rumors hit your ears: was it a brumm brumm or a bramm bramm? If you specify, I can better understand: maybe a Harley Davidson, but also could be masons working to remake the facade of a building. Unless it is a whisper: in this case can be Andrea Rossi that suggests you not to take in any consideration the rumorists. I do not know how the report will be and I do not know when it will be published and if I do not know these things you can be sure that the rumorists are just displacing idle acoustic waves using their tongues as propellers.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  599. H-G Branzell

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    If the long-awaited report turns out to be negative do you think that any scientific journal will publish it?

    Kind regards, H-G Branzell

  600. Andrea Rossi

    H-G Branzell:
    If the report of the Independent Third Party ( again thank you for the proper correction) will turn out to be negative, do you think there will be anybody, in the scientific context and outside, that will not publish it ?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  601. Eric Ashworth

    Wladimir, While you are waiting for a reply from Dr Lakshminarayana. Perhaps you could comment on some of my thoughts with regards to aether and energy as I am intrigued by it. This is what I think and I shall try to keep it brief. 1. The understanding of an aether substance. Because aether has no charge and it only responds to empty space it is undetectable by equipment because equipment is not empty space. Aether represents a value of absolute size. Empty space represents a value of absolute volume. A value of size will always fit within a value of volume. This strange terminology is because I am refering to aether. The same applies to matter which is comprised of aether. When people refer to dark matter are they referring to aether? because I would say this is a mistaken label. For me matter has to have gravity and thereby has physical attributes. 2. Regards energy. This I believe is connected to a charge which is matter and of which is comprised of aether. The degree of energy is directly related to the velocity value of the charge. Compressed aether has more energy than that which is less compressed. Aether whether as a free substance or in the make-up of matter has an affinity for empty space. To provide for a duration of life between two pieces of matter with strong opposing charges there is need for a resonating barrier of aether matter able to expand and contract and thereby repulse each charge from the resonator thereby maintaining a necessary distance between the two opposing charges. If velocity of a charge is responsible for the energy content then maybe the conundrum regarding P+E = N could be explained by the acceptance that nature being physical comprised of aether is not static in its evolutionary progression but travels a distance over a duration of time. I shall attempt to explain. When the proton, the electron and neutron are formed providing a physical mass, the neutron maintains its necessary work of resonating between the proton and the electron. With evolution and the change of environment due to progression i.e. into a more positive zone that activates fission the proton responds accordingly and fuses down being a value of size energy while the electron fisses out being a value of volume energy. The neutron resonating between also responds accordingly and thereby travels a greater distance over the same duration of time and in doing so increases the energy content of the unit. If this is so, then time-distance-velocity is part of the energy equation. Could any of what I think help explain some of the puzzles in modern physics. Regards Eric Ashworth.

  602. Wladimir Guglinski

    Eric Ashworth wrote in September 23rd, 2014 at 11:49 PM

    Wladimir,

    Am I correct in assuming that your theory is something to do with what I have breifly described.
    ——————————————–

    Dear Eric,
    it is hard to know it, because there is no way to understand your theory without figures.

    My model of field is like a desire of engineering, with figures showing the two concentric fields and the fluxes of the particles of the aether moving in them.

    When my paper will be published by the JoNP, you will be able to verify if your theory is similar to the mine

    regards
    wlad

  603. Wladimir Guglinski Sir

    Wladimir Guglinski Sir

    Please let me have a couple of days. I will forward the mail to my professor: lnsrirama@gmail.com

    yours sincerely,
    UVS.Seshavatharam

  604. Hi Andrea. We have done research and found similarities between old ineffective computer software, and ineffective personal relationships. We present the results of our research in this song.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UICS8g20nUA

    (As always, reviews of the song could be positive, or negative).

    :-)

  605. Andrea Rossi

    Thomas Florek:
    Thank you, very nice.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  606. domenico canino

    Dear Andrea,
    a few days ago, Rockefeller family, one of the most important in US financial area, announced they to leave their fossil fuel energy investments. Do they know (and do you know) if something of game changing energy world assets is happening?
    Clear regards

  607. Andrea Rossi

    Domenico Canino:
    Let’s wait for the results of the ITP and the R&D on course, positive or negative as they might be.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  608. Wladimir Guglinski

    To the readers of the JoNP:

    I sent the email ahead to Dr. Seshavatharam and Dr. Lakshminarayana:

    ————————————————–
    From: wladimirguglinski@hotmail.com
    To: seshavatharam.uvs@gmail.com; lnsrirama@yahoo.com
    Subject: your paper published in Rossi’s Journal of Nuclear Physics
    Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 21:30:44 -0300

    Dears Dr. Dr. Seshavatharam and Dr. Lakshminarayana

    I posted a comment in the Journal of Nuclear Physics, where I ask your opinions about a fundamental question in Nuclear Physics.

    regards
    wlad
    ————————————————–

    .

    Dr. Seshavatharam sent me the following reply:

    ————————————————–
    Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 05:05:49 +0430
    Subject: Sir, please send by mail if possible …… Re: your paper published in the Journal of Nuclear Physics
    From: seshavatharam.uvs@gmail.com
    To: wladimirguglinski@hotmail.com
    ————————————————–

    .

    Then I sent to his email the comment posted here in the JoNP, and he sent me the following second reply:

    ————————————————–
    Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 05:24:20 +0430
    Subject: Please let me have a couple of days.. sir
    From: seshavatharam.uvs@gmail.com
    To: wladimirguglinski@hotmail.com
    ————————————————–

    .

    Dr. Lakshminarayana. who works in the Dept.of Nuclear Physics, Andhra University
    Visakhapatnam-03, AP, India, did not send me any reply.

    So, it seems to me that nuclear theorists know that it is impossible to explain the magnetic moment zero of the even-even nuclei with Z=N, but they neglect such unforgivable failure of the Standard Nuclear Physics.

    Therefore, sincerelly it seems to me that nuclear theorists do not face seriously the challange of eliminating the inconsistence of the Standard Nuclear Physics, because there is no way to eliminate the inconsistences by neglecting fundamental questions which point out to them that they are working in the wrong way.

    Such sort of theoretical work is a clear manner that any theorist can use so that to deceive himself, and also they deceive peoples as our friend Mr. JR, hidding to them the fundamental questions where the current nuclar models have not solution for the puzzles of the Standard Nuclear Physics.

    regards
    wlad

  609. Wladimir Guglinski

    To the readers of the JoNP:

    In my comment of September 23rd, 2014 at 7:23 PM I made a mistake, saying that 6C12 has four protons. But such mistake is because in my nuclear model there is a central 2He4, and only four protons gyrate in orbit with radius R.
    However, the quantity of protons makes no difference. The existence of any quantity of electric charge in the even-even nuclei with Z=N imply that their magnetic moment cannot be null, because of the rotation of the nucleus.

    regards
    wlad

  610. Eric Ashworth

    Wladimir, As I have told you many times I am not academic and therefore lack technical language. You state, in my paper ‘Aether Structure for Unification between gravity and electromagnetism’ submitted for publication in JONP it is shown etc. etc. that all elementary particles have two concentric grivito-electromagnetic fields. Am I to understand that you theorize that every elemental particle has gravity within it producing an inner field i.e. one that penetrates to the inner gavity and an outer electric field that circumvents the exterior and that these fields have a common point of origin. If this is what you have theorized then your theory is in keeping with my own which I have demonstrated as the unifying field factor and embodied it into a technology. The inner field/gravito field of any structure I refer to as ‘the economy flow system’ and is responsible for maintaining the structure for a specific duration of time. It’s the intensity of the inner gravity together with its field that dictates the lifetime of the structure hence the word economy. The outer electro magnetic field is the connection to the outer exterior gravity/environment. Between the inner gravity and the exterior gravity is where these two circuits have a common location and are responsible for unifying the structure into a stable mass. As the mass progresses along its path of evolution the structure enters into more positive zones of fusion which produces more fission energy. The two circuits respond to the environment and consequently the gravito/economy field collapses and the outer magnetic field increases, hence the structure falls to pieces under evolutionary law, which I believe could be stated as ‘that which is created must eventually be destroyed’. Am I correct in assuming that your theory is something to do with what I have breifly described. Regards Eric Ashworth.

  611. Wladimir Guglinski

    Fundamental question to be responded by Dr. Seshavatharam and Dr. Lakshminarayana, authors of the paper herein published:

    Dears professors,

    There are fundamental questions in Theoretical Physics which, if not responded by a theory, imply in the unacceptability of the theory.
    It is the case of a fundamental question impossible to be solved by any nuclear model based on the Standard Nuclear Physics, from whose fundamental principles is impossible to explain the null nuclear magnetic moment of the even-even nuclei with Z=N.

    Indeed, consider for instance the nucleus 6C12. It has null nuclear spin and null magnetic moment, because the spin and magnetic moment of each pair proton-neutron is cancelled by a symmetric pair proton-neutron.

    However, all nuclei have rotation. So, as the 6C12 has four protons, and they have electric charge, the rotation of the four charges induces a magnetic moment. And therefore, the 6C12 cannot have null magnetic moment, according to the current nuclear models based on the principles of the Standard Nuclear Physics.

    To solve such question is fundamental for the enterprise of eliminating the inconsistences of the Standard Nuclear Physics.
    Any nuclear model, unable to explain why even-even nuclei with Z=N have magnetic moment zero, is unacceptable.

    In my paper Aether Structure for unification between gravity and electromagnetism, submitted for publication in JoNP four months ago, it is shown that the null magnetic moment of even-even nuclei with Z=N can be explained by considering that all elementary particles (as proton, electron, neutron, mesons, quarks, etc.) have two concentric gravito-electromagnetic fields.

    So, if we finally realize that such puzzle of Nuclear Physics can indeed be solved via the adoption of a double-field for the elementary particles, it means that the current nuclear models of the Standard Nuclear Physics cannot solve the puzzle because they are developed from the concept of mono-field existing in the current Quantum Field Theory.

    Besides,
    suppose that the double-field exists in the Nature.
    This means that is impossible to solve the puzzles of the Standard Nuclear Physics by any theory developed from the concept of mono-field, as the nuclear theorists are trying nowadays.
    The nuclear theorists are trying to solve the puzzles of Nuclear Physics via the adoption of mathematical solutions, but if the physical structure of the field of elementary particles existing in Nature has a double-field structure, then obviously any attempt made via the concept of mono-field cannot be successful.

    In my opinion such fundamental question regarding the null magnetic moment for even-even nuclei with Z=N cannot be neglected in the Nuclear Physics, because if the the nuclear theorists neglect it they will never succeed in their challenge of eliminating the inconsistences of the Standard Nuclear Physics.

    Besides, such question is fundamental for the answer of another fundamental question:
    Is it possible to eliminate the inconsistences of the Standard Nuclear Physics via the current concept of mono-field considered in the current Quantum Field Theory?
    Or
    there is need to adopt the new double-field concept of elementary particles?

    I would like to know the oppinion of yours, regarding such fundamental question

    regards
    wlad

  612. Vincenzo Bonomo

    Egregio Dr. Rossi, come forse ricorderà dalle mie precedenti mail dove affermavo che Lei aveva realizzato sostanzialmente un acceleratore atipico di particelle, sono qui ad interrogarmi sul perchè non abbia mantenuto il fattore di forma toroidale della sperimentazione di Bondeno, rivelatosi molto efficace nella fase di autosostentamento come constatò lo stesso Prof. Focardi, inoltre è mia ferma convinzione che alla base dell’Effetto che porta il Suo nome ci sia la superconduttività dell’idrogeno metallico, fenomeno favorito dal catalizzatore segreto noto solo a Lei.
    A proposito di quest’ultimo ho elaborato un’ipotesi che vorrei sottoporre al Suo giudizio (negli ovvii limiti di riservatezza del caso) anche per avere il Suo benestare per la pubblicazione sul blog 22Passi dell’amico Daniele Passerini, ovviamente se per qualunque motivo ritenesse opportuno rimandare più in là nel tempo la pubblicazione di quest’ipotesi mi adeguerei senza problemi alla Sua decisione.
    Dalla pubblicazione del Prof. Fabio Cardone “VERSO IL NUCLEARE PULITO” riporto il seguente stralcio: “Sin dal 1939 era stata stilata e poi sempre più perfezionata la tavola periodica dei nuclei atomici usando come criterio la massa del nucleo, data dal numero dei suoi componenti, e l’energia di legame specifica ottenuta dividendo l’energia di legame del nucleo per il numero dei suoi componenti, questa veniva chiamata l’energia di legame per componente. Tutti i nuclei a partire dal più piccolo, il deuterio, fino al più grande, l’uranio, erano ordinati secondo il valore crescente di questa energia di legame per componente. Tra i due estremi vi è il ferro che si trova circa a metà tra deuterio ed uranio, inoltre il ferro possiede il valore più alto della energia di legame per componente tra tutti i nuclei degli elementi ed in più il ferro è inerte cioè non è radioattivo. Per questa sua proprietà di avere l’energia di legame più alta il ferro è il più svantaggiato per produrre energia nucleare ed anche il meno incline a farlo. Scherzando si può dire impropriamente che il suo nucleo è e quindi sarebbe l’elemento meno adatto da considerare, almeno secondo il normale buon senso, come avrebbe detto Fermi. Ma tutto questo in condizioni normali, ossia di spazio piatto. Viceversa nello spazio deformato delle forze nucleari, il ferro si trova invece in posizione avvantaggiata. Infatti se vi è una soglia di energia da raggiungere, che è al disopra di tutte le energie di legame, il nucleo con l’energia più alta è quello più vicino, quello che a parità di potenza fornita la supera per primo tra gli altri nuclei e, cosa più importante, nel minor tempo.”
    Ebbene mi chiedevo se il ragionamento del Prof. Cardone si poteva applicare al nitruro di titanio che da superisolante in opportune condizioni di temperatura, pressione, ecc. poteva trasformarsi insieme all’idrogeno metallizzandolo e rendendolo superconduttore.

    In attesa di un Suo cortese riscontro Le faccio i miei migliori auguri per il Suo importantissimo lavoro e Le invio i più cordiali saluti.

    Vincenzo Bonomo

  613. Andrea Rossi

    Vincenzo Bonomo:
    Our protocircuit in Bondeno was just experimental and not fit for industrial applications. It was not a particle accelerator, just a water loop. For the rest of your comment, I respect your opinion, but it has nothing to do with our work. Next time you send us a comment, please translate it in English, because most of our Readers do not speak Italian. I published it anyway, maybe some Italian Reader is interested to what you wrote. My answer, anyway, contains the substance of your question; regarding the work of the competitor you cited, I never comment the work of our competitors.
    Thank you for your kind wishes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  614. @george

    since I can only judge of M5* question via google translate, can you confirm that M5* simply
    - state that LENR show promising development including some commercial (E-Cat among I suppose)
    - ask what is the plan of the government for public research and initiative

    Is it correct ?

    It seems far from the idea to close ENEA LENR research ?

    from this report
    http://ec.europa.eu/research/industrial_technologies/pdf/emerging-materials-report_en.pdf
    and this conference
    http://www.enea.it/it/Ufficio-Bruxelles/news/new-advancements-on-the-fleischmann-pons-effect-paving-the-way-for-a-potential-new-clean-renewable-energy-source/
    it seems ENEA too try to push LENR in Europe ?

  615. Gian Luca

    Thanks a lot Mr.George for your clarifications.
    This is very important for all italians who follow LENR
    and the energetic destiny of their country.

  616. George

    Curiosone, please check rigorously your source of information, to avoid to spread around wrong news.
    Regards,
    George

  617. Andrea Rossi

    George:
    Thank you for the correction of the information.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  618. George

    Dear Curiosone, before making statements FALSE on M5S should inquire or mention the source.
    Stop throwing mud at those who work on issues such as difficult as the LENR.
    I enclose the link that proves its falsity and reliability. Shame on you

    However, Andrea Rossi has repeatedly said he is not interested in public funding.
    http://banchedati.camera.it/sindacatoispettivo_17/showXhtml.Asp?idAtto=15181&stile=6&highLight=1

  619. Curiosone

    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    I read that the “Movimento 5 Stelle” party has proposed to the Italian government to cancel the funds so far granted for the research in the LENR field made in the Frascati Laboratory by Francesco Celani, saying that that work has produced nothing in years and costed to the taxpayer millions of euros. Did Celani or his laboratory participate to your R&D or to your work in some measure?
    Thank you,
    W.G.

  620. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    First of all, I never comment the work of our competitors. Therefore, without commenting the quality of the work made by the Competitor you cited, I must say that we never worked with that Laboratory, directly or indirectly and also that we are not interested to their work, based on what they have published so far about their results. In line of principle, as you know, I repeatedly said that I do not believe in public funding of LENR, for many reasons; we always have refused any proposal of funding coming from Taxpayers. This is a personal point of view . If an apparatus works, money comes from the Customers and from private investors. Obviously my opinion can be wrong and I perfectly understand that it is connected with the vast and complex issue of the pure research, independent from immediate application opportunities. But many distinctions have to be made if we enter in this universe.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  621. Curiosone

    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    Did you see the documentary “Particle Fever”, of Kaplan? Is the story of the quest for the iggs Boson in the LHC of CERN, from the initial fier in 2008 to the discovery of the Higgs; I liked it very much.
    W.G.

  622. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    Yes, I watched “Particle Fever” and I agree with your opinion. Is very interesting and is a successful example of how difficult physics issues can be explained in a way to be understood from the non physicists.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  623. Wladimir Guglinski

    Lex wrote in September 16th, 2014 at 3:45 PM

    Dear Andrea,

    The generally adapted theory on the creation of elements in the universe states that new elements can only be created under extreme energy level conditions. Now it seems that inside your E-Cat nickel is transformed into cupper at low energy level conditions, what would that mean for the theories on the creation of elements and the creation of the universe? Does your E-Cat fits in this theory?
    ———————————————

    Andrea Rossi replied in September 16th, 2014 at 4:22 PM

    Lex:
    LENR are not that simple, and you cannot resolve the problems just thinking that you can have nuclear reactions with low level energy: it is not that simple. What does not happen in Nature can happen with a mechanism that in Nature does not exist. Nature can take one billion years to make a stone travel from the Alps to the Adriatic sea, but with a truck you can make it faster and without all the meteorytes crush tests, the earthquakes, the floodings, the hurricanes, the you think it you put it, that you need to get Nature make the logistics.
    What I can say is that the so called Rossi Effect does not violate any law of the Standard Model.
    ————————————————–

    Eric Ashworth commented in September 20th, 2014 at 1:03 PM

    My understanding of your reply is that what does happen in nature can be accelerated using a mechanism. Therby the Rossi effect is a process of nature that does not violate the standard model.
    ———————————————

    COMMENT:

    Dear Lex,
    cold fusion occurs only in special condictions, and one of them is the need of having resonance between the nucleons which have fusion.
    In order to have such resonance, there is need to apply a suitable electromagnetic field with a specific frequence.

    Cold fusion does not occur in core of the Sun, because the extreme condictions does not allow two nucleons to have fusion withe help of that suitable frequence.

    However, perhaps cold fusin may occur in the heliosphere of the Sun, where perhaps the condition is more favorable for the occurence for cold fusion. Indeed, the heliosphere has a temperature of 1.000.000ºC, while the temperature of the surface is only 6.000ºC.
    There is no explanation for such phenomenon according to the current theories of Physics, and perhaps the high temperature in the heliosphere is due to cold fusion.

    In spite of Andrea Rossi claims that the Rossi Effect does not violate the Standard Model, but even if that it is true however the Standard Model is violated by the results of two experiments, one made by Don Borghi (1993) and other made by Elio Conte (1999).

    The two experiments show that a neutron can be formed from the fusion proton+electron at low energy (this is impossible according to the Standard Model).

    In the Borghi experiment, he used an oscillatory electromagnetic field which frequence is in the same magnitude of that used in the Rossi’s eCat. So, the resonance in the Borghi experiment occurs in a way similar of that which occurs in the Rossi’s eCat.

    Rughero Maria Santilli tried to repeat the Borghi experiment in several universities of the Europe, between 1994 and 2000. He was banned from all the universities.
    So,
    as all the universities in Europe had refused to repeat the Borghi experiment, then Santilli undertook to repeat it in the laboratories of the Institute for Basic Research, in 2006:
    Confirmation of Don Borghi’s experiment on the synthesis of neutrons from protons and electrons
    http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0608229

    Cold fusion occurs via some mechanisms which violate the Standard Model.

    If the Rossi’s Effect violates, or not, the Standard Model, is another question. In order to respond such question, there is need to know what elements and condictions exist within the eCat, and we dont know them.

    As Andrea Rossi knows what exists within the eCat, he is in a best condition to propose a theory. However, after the moment when he reveals what he uses within the eCat, we will analyse his theory, so that to verify if, indeed, the theory explains the Rossi’s Effect without to violate the Standard Model.

    regards
    wlad

  624. Alexvs

    Dear Mr. Rossi.

    Could you recommend an available book upon atomic nucleus?.

    Thanks in advance.

    Alexvs

  625. Andrea Rossi

    Alexvs:
    I strongly recommend:
    Norman D. Cook – “Models of the Atomic Nucleus”, Springer ( Berlin ) – 2010 ( 2nd edition).
    Find it also by Amazon.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  626. Steven N. Karels

    Roberto,

    The 2009 patent states “… hydrogen is injected into the metal tube containing the highly pressurized nickel powder having a pressure, preferably though not necessarily, from 2 to 20 bars.” The bar is a metric unit of pressure, defined by the IUPAC as exactly equal to 100,000 Pa. It is about equal to the atmospheric pressure on Earth at sea level.

  627. Roberto

    Caro Andrea,
    probably you can’t give this information, anyway, how is the hydrogen inside the E-CAT: is it at atmosferic pressure or higher?
    Ciao, Roberto

  628. Andrea Rossi

    Roberto:
    I gave this information in the patent granted to me in 2009, with priority April 2008: the pressure is higher.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  629. Curiosone

    Why so much time is necessary before an important paper is published? I am asking independently from your specific case.
    Thank you for your patience,
    W.G.

  630. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    Obviously you are talking of the “OPERA” team of CERN, experiment made in March 2012. That has been a very unfortunate case: they got 5 Sigma, before making the press conference. If you remember, I published a comment on this blog, immediately after the press conference, writing that there was probably a mistake due to the error margin of the instrumentation. When you obtain a result that is very, very close to the error margin of the instrumentation, the hunch’s Sigmas could not tell the whole story. As a matter of fact it turned out that a loose cable that connected their master clock to a GPS receiver led to a delay in the timing that has been measured by their detector.
    Who doesn’t make mistakes cast the first stone.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  631. Eric Ashworth

    Andrea, Regards your reply to Lex Sept. 16th What you state is ‘What does not happen in nature can happen with a mechanism that does not exist in nature. Nature can take a billion years etc. but with a truck you can make it faster etc.. Also the so called Rossi effect does not violate any law of the standard model’.

    My understanding of your reply is that what does happen in nature can be accelerated using a mechanism. Therby the Rossi effect is a process of nature that does not violate the standard model. It is this reference to the standard model involving the evolution of energy within nature that I have always thought was an unknown and why LENR have not been taken seriously. Am I correct? or am I missing something?. My own theory is that nature, excluding the two absolutes, is sandwiched between these two extremes, these being the absolute fission and fusion states but nature moves from the beginning of fusion which is out of fission into full fusion and consequently into fission. Transmutations I believe are a neccesary requirement to adapt to a foreign environment or you could say adapt into a more positive environmental state thereby distance and time are part of the transmutation equation with regards nature. Just a thought prompted by your analogy. Regards Eric Ashworth.

  632. Andrea Rossi

    Eric Ashworth:
    I confirm what I said. Thank you for your insight.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  633. DTravchenko

    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    How much is the pressure from journalists in this period?
    Warm Regards,
    D.T.

  634. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    No pressure at all: I am declining any request of interview from any side since December 2013, friendly or hostile as it could be. It’s time to work, not to talk.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  635. Steven N. Karels

    Hank Mills,

    I have also heard speculation about adding some level of deuterium to natural hydrogen to increase the eCat reaction efficiency. I recall in the early days, Andrea Rossi reportedly enhanced the isotopic distribution of his fuel. Back then, we all assumed he was referring to nickel. But in a general sense, the hydrogen could also be considered a fuel. So adding deuterium would be consistent with AR’s earlier comments. Going against this are some tests reported earlier that adding deuterium “poisoned” the nickel-hydrogen reaction but that was not done in the eCat configuration.

    Obviously, we do not need to worry about particle size for the hydrogen or deuterium as they are gases at the operating temperatures. Still, if a catalyst was found to convert their diatomic nature to a single atom, that might facilitate the eCat reaction. But, this is all speculation. I can neither confirm nor deny whether it is positive or negative (LOL).

  636. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    rotfl

    rolling on the floor laughing

  637. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Got it!
    Rolling Regards,
    A.R.

  638. Curiosone

    Do you remember what caused the error of the “discovery” of neutrinos faster than light in CERN ? How many Sigma did obtain the physicists who made it before making a press conference?
    Thank you,
    W.G.

  639. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    The steps are:
    1- make the test
    2- data are collected and distributed to all the authors
    3- if the data are millions, thousands of discussions and emails will be exchanged by the authors
    4- the authors have to make independently their own analisys on data, samples, etc
    5- the authors will ask to their peers to replicate the analisys on data, samples, etc
    6- data have to be compared with expectations
    7- every author writes his part of the report, based on his specialization
    8- when a draft of report is ready, every author reviews the parts of the other authors, and they reciprocally review their work and their calculations, analisys, etc
    9- when a text of report is agreed upon, the authors ask further reviewing from colleagues
    10- the report is given to the magazine, which makes its own peer reviewing.
    Said this, use as a calculator your good sense and tell me: do you think a total time between 6 month and 1 year is reasonable ?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  640. DTravchenko

    Attention: you are receiving “innocent” questions that, bit by bit, are stealing IP…
    Warm Regards
    D.T.

  641. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    In this blog I receive important information too. It’s a matter of leverage.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  642. JCRenoir

    If you cannot answer, I understand, thank you all the same,
    JCRenoir

  643. Andrea Rossi

    JC Renoir:
    One year from the start up.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  644. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    You have already said this before, but to quench some speculation taking place on the internet could you state again, for the record, no deuterium (other than the tiny amount found in ordinary light hydrogen) is added to the E-Cat or Hot Cat?

    Thank you.

    Hank

  645. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    I do not give information about this issue.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  646. orsobubu

    In the answer to Italo R., who says that wars are due to oil, Andrea Rossi writes that “the roots of wars are deeper: during the stone age men killed each other not for lack of stones. Cain did not kill Abel for lack of apples.”

    This is absolutely correct. Most of the wars today are placed in the new framework of global relations that began to take shape in the 90s, with the federation of the Euro and the rise of Asia and China in particular. In the relations between powers, what matters is not the specific event but the historical process leading to the event and that is intrinsic to the structure of the system itself, the capitalistic production system and the imperialistic political order (Kissinger). It is from the womb of politics that the wars take their origin (Klausewitz), being the result of objective causal chains, from a society in which the human species is not consciously master of its own destiny. The states and the wars between the states are irreconcilable expressions of the conflict between classes: the uneven economic and political development changes the relationship between the powers, calls for a strength showdown and leads to the breakdown of the international order. (Guido La Barbera, La nuova fase strategica, 2014)

  647. Andrea Rossi

    Orsobubu:
    Rolling On The Floor Laughs ?
    Laughing Regards,
    A.R.

  648. JCRenoir

    Dr Rossi:
    How much time will you need the 1 MW plant work before considering it reliable and start a mass production?
    Thank you for your time to answer,
    JCRenoir

  649. Andrea Rossi

    Orsobibu
    ROTFL: ?
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  650. Andrea Rossi

    Got it.
    Thank you,
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  651. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    LOL

    abbreviation
    informal

    Laughing out loud; laugh out loud (used chiefly in electronic communication to draw attention to a joke or amusing statement, or to express amusement):
    ‘I love how you said ‘coffee is not my cup of tea’. LOL!’

  652. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I knew that you could not comment on the nickel particle size or anything else that goes on within your eCat reactor. However, you previously stated that the nickel particle size does affect eCat performance. This analysis confirms that statement. Of course, the analysis maybe incorrect or correct, so it may be viewed as either positive or negative. (LOL)

  653. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    In some comment, as in your last one, I found the acronym “LOL”: forgive me for my ignorance, what does it mean, exactly?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  654. Steven N. Karels

    Particle Size Analysis – eCat 10kW Reactor

    Given a Hot eCat, can we derive the minimum nickel particle size consistent with the particle not melting?

    Nickel specific heat capacity: 0.44 Joules/ (g * C)
    Nickel melting point: 1,455C
    eCat External Surface Temperature: 1,000C
    Nickel density:7.81 g/cc
    eCat reactor average output: 10kW

    Assume allowed nickel particle temperature increase is 200C.
    Assumed nuclear energy released per nuclear event: 3MeV
    Assumed amount of nickel fuel in one eCat reactor: 5 grams

    Assuming the nickel fuel is in the form of small particles (spheres) located immediately inside the eCat cylinder, then the average nickel particle temperature must be around 1,200C. So the nickel particle size must be larger enough to absorb a single nuclear event energy release without melting.

    Amount of energy released = 3MeV = 4.8 * 10^^-13 Joules per nuclear event.
    So the amount of mass of each nickel particle must be equal to or greater than 4.8 * 10^^-13 J / (200C * 0.44 J/(g * C) = 5.45 * 10^^-15 grams. The volume of such a particle would be 5.45 * 10^^-15 g / 7.81 g/cc = 6.98 * 10^^-16 cc. The volume for a sphere is 4/3 * pi * radius^^3. So the diameter must be about 11 microns.

    Number of nickel particles: 5 grams / 5.45 * 10^^-15 grams per particle = 9.2 * 10^^+14
    Nuclear events rate: 10,000J/sec / 4.8 * 10^^-13 J/event = 2.1 * 10^^+16 events / sec
    Average event rate for a single nickel particle = 2.1 * 10^^+16 events/sec / 9.2 * 10^^+14 particles = 22.7 events / sec

    Given the larger number of assumptions used, I would guess the nickel particles are 1 micron or larger.

  655. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    All I had to say is written in my patent.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  656. WaltC

    Dear Andrea,
    This may be premature, but do you know if the publisher of the ITPR2 will require payment for us to access the ITPR2 journal article?

    Thanks,
    Walt C.

  657. Andrea Rossi

    WaltC:
    I hope the Report will be published also in a way that will allow free access to the Readers, but, as you know, this does not depend on me.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  658. Tom Conover

    Hello Andrea,

    Just wondering, you mentioned that September you would be exceptionally busy this year. 3 questions not related to IP for you to consider, if possible.

    1) Are the automated production lines running properly?
    2) Have you shipped 5 or more 1MW plants during Aug and Sept?
    3) How many man hours does it take to assemble a 1MW plant?

    Thank you for answering if you are able to do so, and for your pioneer work and perseverance!

    Warmest regards,
    Tom

  659. Andrea Rossi

    Tom Conover:
    1- We are not yet in a situation that justifies an automated production line, but we have already part of them and the designs for the complete operation. Obviously, before we launch a mass production we need first of all to evaluate the report of the Independent Third Party, the results of at least one year of operation of the 1MW plant in the factory of the Customer and the follow up of our R&D process. Probably you think all this takes too much time: you have not idea of the thousands of thousands of particulars you have to adjust; the more you work, the more you have to work because new problems are born from former ones. It is a permanent ( Hi, Orsobubu!) struggle.
    2- No.
    3- This information is not available to the public.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  660. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    On the topic of nickel particle size, you referred me to your Italian patent and then said the question was previously answered. I offer this analysis to bound the particle size:

    Particle Size Analysis – eCat 10kW Reactor
    Nickel specific heat capacity: 0.44 Joules/ (g * C)
    Nickel melting point: 1,455C
    eCat External Surface Temperature: 1,000C
    Nickel density:7.81 g/cc
    eCat reactor average output: 10kW
    Assume allowed nickel particle temperature increase is 200C.
    Assumed nuclear energy released per nuclear event: 3MeV
    Assumed amount of nickel fuel in one eCat reactor: 5 grams

    What is the smallest size particle diameter that could function within an eCat reactor?

    Assuming the nickel fuel is in the form of small particles (spheres) located immediately inside the eCat cylinder, then the average nickel particle temperature must be around 1,200C. So the nickel particle size must be larger enough to absorb a single nuclear event energy release without melting.

    Amount of energy released = 3MeV = 4.8 * 10^^-13 Joules per nuclear event.

    So the amount of mass of each nickel particle must be equal to or greater than 4.8 * 10^^-13 J / (200C * 0.44 J/(g * C) = 5.45 * 10^^-15 grams. The volume of such a particle would be 5.45 * 10^^-15 g / 7.81 g/cc = 6.98 * 10^^-16 cc. The volume for a sphere is 4/3 * pi * radius^^3. So the diameter must be about 11 microns.

    Number of nickel particles: 5 grams / 5.45 * 10^^-15 grams per particle = 9.2 * 10^^+14
    Nuclear events rate: 10,000J/sec / 4.8 * 10^^-13 J/event = 2.1 * 10^^+16 events / sec
    Average event rate for a single nickel particle = 2.1 * 10^^+16 events/sec / 9.2 * 10^^+14 particles = 22.7 events / sec

    Given the larger number of assumptions used, I would guess the nickel particles are 1 micron or larger.

  661. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    I can’t comment.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  662. Lata

    Hi Andrea,

    You had recently said that you can selectively activate the Rossi Effect in a single nano grain of fuel. Is it possible to build a small pebble or lump of NiH fuel with a few grains always activated? The pebble will always be smoldering like the small pilot flame on gas stoves. Then you can ignite the whole pebble when needed.

    Regards,
    Lata

  663. Andrea Rossi

    Lata:
    I did not say that. You probably misunderstood what I wrote.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  664. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in September 17th, 2014 at 6:43 PM

    Wladimir,

    You write,
    “Therefore, as the experiment detected a magnetic field, it means that there is need to have an electric field too.”

    But if there would be an electric field, that means that there would necessarily also be a nonzero resultant electric charge on the photon (perhaps under certain conditions). But since the photon is never observed as charged, the presence of a magnetic field is unexplainable in the context of QRT (as well as QM and QFT).
    =========================================

    Joe,
    as I said, the particle and antiparticle are separated by a distance “d” very short regarding the size of the electromagnetic field.
    The two particles behave as they were in average one unique corpuscle.

    There was not up to now a technology able to detect the non-zero resultant of the electromagnetic field.

    The non zero magnetic resultant also was never detected before the experiment published in August 2014 in the Nature Photonics.

    But now, thanks to the new technology, we know that the photon has a non zero magnetic resultant ( in spite of, in average, the magnetic field is zero).

    regards
    wlad

  665. Joe

    Wladimir,

    You write,
    “Therefore, as the experiment detected a magnetic field, it means that there is need to have an electric field too.”

    But if there would be an electric field, that means that there would necessarily also be a nonzero resultant electric charge on the photon (perhaps under certain conditions). But since the photon is never observed as charged, the presence of a magnetic field is unexplainable in the context of QRT (as well as QM and QFT).

    All the best,
    Joe

  666. Nava Lina

    Chi ha finanziato il test e i testers?
    Who gave the funds necessary for the Independent Third Party Test and the Professors who did it and the Report ?
    Regards
    Lina

  667. Andrea Rossi

    Nava Lina:
    I do not know. Possibly in the report will be acknowledged who funded the test.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  668. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe
    September 17th, 2014 at 4:00 AM

    Wladimir,

    It would be understandable if the experiment had detected just one of the two magnetic fields within the QRT photon. But that would have been on the order of 10^-30m (the distance d between the two particles) and not on the order of 10^-11m (19 orders of distance further away). At that latter distance, both magnetic fields would cancel if the two particles propagated symmetrically. But since a magnetic field is detected at that greater distance, the two particles must necessarily be propagating asymmetrically. And if such is the case, an electric field (and its associated electric charge) would also be detected. But that does not occur.
    =============================================

    Joe,
    they did not make the experiment so that to the detect an electric field.

    The aim of the experiment is to detect the magnetic field

    However, we know that the electric field and the magnetic field of the photon move together ( DxE = -dB/dt, Maxwell equation). The light is a propagation of an electromagnetic field in the space.

    Therefore, as the experiment detected a magnetic field, it means that there is need to have an electric field too.

    regards
    wlad

  669. DTravchenko

    Are you open to sell other commercial licenses besides the licenses you already sold?
    Warm Regards,
    D.T.

  670. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    No.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    p.s. attention: your comment has been casually fished from the spam, wherein our robot has sent it: check that the address you sent it from is not connected with an advertising of some sort.

  671. JCRenoir

    Dr Rossi:
    Which month will be most likely the publication month:
    1- September 2014
    2- October 2014
    3- November 2014
    4- December 2014
    JCRenoir

  672. Andrea Rossi

    JCRenoir:
    October 2014, I think, but I could be wrong.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  673. Marco

    Dear Andrea,
    Regarding my previous question: I know you use common AC current, but I would like to know if you tried AC current with different frequencies or even better measure the frequency response in a reasonably broader band (maybe 10-100000 Hz?) of some parameters like COP etc…
    By the way, if you do that, yo can do a Bode or Nyquist diagram and design a PID controller to enhance the stability… Just a suggestion…

    Regards.

  674. Andrea Rossi

    Marco:
    I cannot give this infrmation, in positive or in negative.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  675. georgehants

    Dear Mr. Rossi, are you at this time satisfied with the progress you are making with your job in Research and Development.
    Are things moving in-line with your hopes.
    Have you encountered any major unforeseen difficulties in your progress with the Rossi Effect.
    Best wishes

  676. Andrea Rossi

    Georgehants:
    We are working cutting our way through a jungle.
    The compass says we are going in the right direction.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  677. Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in September 17th, 2014 at 3:26 AM

    Curiosone:
    After the press conference of CERN regarding the finding of the Higgs boson , the the physicist Joe Incandela, spokesperson of the team that made the job, to a journalist that asked if at that point their work was finished, answered: ” Sometime they think after a success the job is finished, but for us any success is the beginning of a new work”.
    ==============================================

    COMMENT
    But in the case of the Hiigs boson, I suspect that after that success wrongly interpreted as success the physicists will discover that the beginning will be a new work in a different way they are expecting.

    In 2015 the LHC will work at its full capacity, and I think the physicists will have many unexpected surprises.

    regards
    wlad

  678. manfred

    Dear Hank Mills,

    I definitely feel that quantum tunnelling is important to explain the Rossi effect, but I’m not so sure about the Casimir effect. Quantum field theory is fascinating and worth studying any time but before diving deeper into that subject I was hoping to know your opinion if it will also benefit my understanding of the Rossi effect.
    From my rather humble phenomenological approach to understand the Rossi effect, I always felt that phonon resonance effects might be more relevant for its explanation.

    All the best,
    Manfred

  679. Joe

    Wladimir,

    It would be understandable if the experiment had detected just one of the two magnetic fields within the QRT photon. But that would have been on the order of 10^-30m (the distance d between the two particles) and not on the order of 10^-11m (19 orders of distance further away). At that latter distance, both magnetic fields would cancel if the two particles propagated symmetrically. But since a magnetic field is detected at that greater distance, the two particles must necessarily be propagating asymmetrically. And if such is the case, an electric field (and its associated electric charge) would also be detected. But that does not occur.

    All the best,
    Joe

  680. Curiosone

    When the report will be published your work will be substantially finished, if the report will be positive?
    W.G.

  681. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    After the press conference of CERN regarding the finding of the Higgs boson , the the physicist Joe Incandela, spokesperson of the team that made the job, answered to a journalist that asked if at that point their work was finished: ” Sometime they think after a success the job is finished, but for us any success is the beginning of a new work”.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  682. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    In regards to the question about quantum tunneling and the Casimir effect, I think both are active in the E-Cat.

    Recently, I’ve read how researchers have seen quantum tunneling between the tips of tubercles on nickel powder. Even when the tips are not touching, the high amount of charge at the tips allows for current to pass between them. If there is hydrogen present, it can transform into a superconducting form at the tips. This could allow nuclear reactions to take place.

    When it comes to the Casimir effect, at the small distances between cracks, there can exist newtons of force. These forces may manipulate hydrogen and allow for energy extraction from the zero point energy field.

    My guess is there are multiple phenomenon taking place in the E-Cat. Some may be desirable and others may not.

    Have you ever attempted to stimulate nuclear reactions via a spinning permanent magnet – presenting alternating fields to the reactor – and a non-magnetic reactor casing? It would be interesting to see how it affects the reactions.

  683. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    You already know my answer,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  684. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    How many full time staff do you expect will need to be employed by companies that install your industrial plants to operate them?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  685. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Very difficult to say now, but the potential scenario could be proportional to that of a diffused utility.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  686. Dima Redko

    Dear Andrea,
    in your opinion what might be reason for the 3-d party testers to take so much time to release their report? If I understood correctly the test itself ought to be complete by March 2014.

  687. Andrea Rossi

    Dima Redko:
    The peer reviewing of an important paper usually needs 6-12 months of reviewing.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  688. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in September 16th, 2014 at 4:46 PM

    If asymmetry occurs, BOTH those fields should appear, not just the magnetic one.
    ==============================

    Joe,
    note that the size of the magnetic field of the photon (the range of its actuation) has the magnitude of 10^-11 meter.
    While the magnitude of the distance “d” in the photon has a magnitude shorter than 10^-30 meter.

    So, the distance “d” within the photon is practically zero regarding to the size of the magnetic fields of the particle and antiparticle.

    Therefore the existence of an effective magnetic field for photons can be detected only via a phenomenon of resonance, and that’s why it can be detected only via the use of an interferometer.

    Also,
    note that such resonance (thanks to which it is possible to detect the existence of the effective magnetic field for photons) occurs because of the existence of the distance “d” between the particle and antiparticle.

    If the distance “d” would not exist between particle and antiparticle, the resonance would not occur, and the experiment published in the journal Nature `Photonics would detect nothing.

    regards
    wlad

    regards
    wlad

  689. Wladimir Guglinski

    silvio caggia wrote in September 16th, 2014 at 5:41 PM

    @Wladimir Guglinski
    Now I am a bit confused about your model of photon linear polarization… Photon linear polarization info is contained in distance “d” between particle and antiparticle OR in angular position between particle and antiparticle?
    How are these two info related?
    ===============================================

    Silvio,

    1- The angular position between particle and antiparticle defines the polarization of the photon.

    2- The distance “d” defines the ability of the photon either to be polarized, or not.
    Because the polarization is a resonance phenomenon (the ability of the polarizer to change the angular position between particle and antiparticle depends on the resonance between the distance “d” in the photon and the distance “D” between two consecutive atomic planes within the polarizer; if the distance “d” in the photon is not able to get resonance with the distance “D” in the polarizer, then the polarization does not occur).

    regards
    wlad

  690. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in September 16th, 2014 at 4:46 PM

    Wladimir,

    In QRT, it is the symmetrical motion of the charged particle-antiparticle pair within the photon that is responsible for the seeming lack of electric and magnetic fields. Those fields cancel. If asymmetry occurs, BOTH those fields should appear, not just the magnetic one. And the electric charge should become nonzero as would be indicated by the presence of a newly appeared electric field. So QRT has to explain how we can have a magnetic field without an electric field (and its associated electric charge).
    ==========================================

    Joe,
    in average the electric field of the two corpuscles is null.
    As the particle and the antiparticle are very small, and also is very small the distance “d” between them, they behave as if they were one unique particle with electric charge zero.

    There is no way to detect each one of the two electric fields by experiments.

    And the magnetic fied acually does not appear in the experiment published by Nature. The existence of such magnetic field is deduced from the use of an interferometer, as said in the paper:
    “We experimentally observe an effective magnetic flux between 0 and 2π corresponding to a non-reciprocal 2π phase shift with an interferometer length of 8.35 mm and an interference-fringe extinction ratio of 2.4 dB. “

    regards
    wlad

  691. silvio caggia

    @Wladimir Guglinski
    Now I am a bit confused about your model of photon linear polarization… Photon linear polarization info is contained in distance “d” between particle and antiparticle OR in angular position between particle and antiparticle?
    How are these two info related?

  692. Joe

    Wladimir,

    In QRT, it is the symmetrical motion of the charged particle-antiparticle pair within the photon that is responsible for the seeming lack of electric and magnetic fields. Those fields cancel. If asymmetry occurs, BOTH those fields should appear, not just the magnetic one. And the electric charge should become nonzero as would be indicated by the presence of a newly appeared electric field. So QRT has to explain how we can have a magnetic field without an electric field (and its associated electric charge).

    All the best,
    Joe

  693. manfred

    Dear Mr. Rossi,

    Which one of the two effects do you think are more relevant to explain the Rossi effect?

    - Quantum Tunnelling
    - Casimir Effect

    Wishing you all the best and keeping my finger crossed for the energy revolution!

    Thanks,
    Manfred

  694. Andrea Rossi

    Manfred:
    Whattaya think?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  695. Lex

    Dear Andrea,

    I’m following your story with great interest because to me its clear that this is a big promise for the future of my kids. One question keeps running in my mind since I started reading about the E-Cat and LENR 3 years ago.
    The generally adapted theory on the creation of elements in the universe states that new elements can only be created under extreme energy level conditions. Now it seems that inside your E-Cat nickel is transformed into cupper at low energy level conditions, what would that mean for the theories on the creation of elements and the creation of the universe? Does your E-Cat fits in this theory?

    Kind regards,

    Lex Steigenga

    Lex

  696. Andrea Rossi

    Lex:
    LENR are not that simple, and you cannot resolve the problems just thinking that you can have nuclear reactions with low level energy: it is not that simple. What does not happen in Nature can happen with a mechanism that in Nature does not exist. Nature can take one billion years to make a stone travel from the Alps to the Adriatic sea, but with a truck you can make it faster and without all the meteorytes crush tests, the earthquakes, the floodings, the hurricanes, the you think it you put it, that you need to get Nature make the logistics.
    What I can say is that the so called Rossi Effect does not violate any law of the Standard Model.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  697. Wladimir Guglinski

    To the readers of the JoNP:

    New experiment with light published by the journal Nature Photonics corroborates photon model proposed in Quantum Ring Theory.

    Non-reciprocal phase shift induced by an effective magnetic flux for light
    http://www.nature.com/nphoton/journal/v8/n9/full/nphoton.2014.177.html

    In the experiment the photon had interaction with a magnetic field.

    But according to Quantum Mechanics, the light is a propagation of a duality wave-particle, which electric charge is null.

    First of all, we have to note that a particle with charge zero cannot have magnetic field.
    So,
    according to the concept of photon considered in Quantum Mechanics we had to expect that would be impossible to have interaction between the photon and a magnetic field.

    Such experiment can be explained only by considering the photon model proposed in Quantum Ring Theory, because as there is a distance “d” between the particle and the antiparticle, it is possible the existence of an effective magnetic field for photons, in spite of its total electric charge is null.

    There is no way to explain the phenomenon by considering a photon with electric charge null as considered in Quantum Mechanics.

    In the paper published in the journal Nature, the authors say in the Abstract:
    “However, recent theoretical work¹,² has shown that an effective magnetic field for photons can exist if the phase of light changes with its direction of propagation”.

    But in spite of the recent theoretical work mentioned in the paper had proposed the existence of an effective magnetic field for protons, however it is IMPOSSIBLE to explain WHY the phenomenon occurs, because it makes no sense to consider that a wave-particle propagation with electric charge zero could be able to produce such magnetic field.

    This is always the problem with Quantum Mechanics. The authors of a paper propose something, but they cannot explain WHY that occurs, because from the models of Quantum Mechanics there is no way to find the cause of the phenomenon.

    regards
    wlad

  698. Marco

    Dear Andrea,
    maybe my comment got spammed, so i am resending it. Anyway some of the issues got asked and answered.

    I was wondering if the frequency of the AC current changes the COP or the stability or other features and if you have tried, with an AC/AC converter, other frequencies and with what results.

    Regards.

  699. Andrea Rossi

    Marco:
    We use normal AC current at the frequency it is supplied to us from the grid.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  700. NCY

    Has there been any R&D toward using a Stirling Engine to generate mechanical advantage/electricity directly from the E-cat?
    Thank you for your time.
    NCY

  701. Andrea Rossi

    NCY:
    Yes, it is an issue for our R&D.
    Thank you for your attention,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  702. Wladimir Guglinski

    Silvio,
    an additional explanation on the linear polarization:

    a) Suppose a photon passes by a polarizizer 90º, and so it is polarized vertically with 90º. It means that his particle and antiparticle meet them together in the positions 90º and 270º.

    b) Now we will oblige that photon to pass by a polarizer 45º. It has 50% chance to be polarized 45º, depending on his distance d. If it is polarized 45º, it means that the particle and the antiparticle changed their relative position, and they will meet together in the positions 45º and 225º. And perhpas the distance d also can be affected, by a litle changing.

    regards
    wlad

  703. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in September 15th, 2014 at 4:55 PM

    Wladimir,

    How is the creation of two new corpuscles for the two particles of a divided photon different in essence from hadronization which also involves an act of creation of particles from the vacuum (or aether, as you believe)?
    ============================================

    Joe,
    I think the creation is the same in the two cases. When a “hole” is created in the aether due to the rupture of the partnership of the two corpuscles in the photon, the aether creates a new particle.

    But in the case of polarization there is not creation of particles.
    In the case of polarization there is changing in the properties of some photon.
    I cannot believe that, if we change the polarization of a twin brother photon here in the Earth, his brother in the Moon will also change its polarization.

    When we change the polariztion of the first twin brother photon here in the Earth, a polarizer is changing the relative position between the particle and the antiparticle of that photon. Such phenomenon requires the interaction between the two corpuscles of the photon with the atomic planes of the polarizer.
    I dont believe the twin brother photon in the Moon will also change the relative position between the particle and the antiparticle.

    regards
    wlad

  704. Wladimir Guglinski

    silvio caggia
    September 15th, 2014 at 9:49 PM

    @Wladimir Guglinski

    1)======================
    Sorry, I missed someting…
    Two photons A and B, emitted from the SAME laser, can have different distances “d” between their particle and
    antiparticle? Shouldn’t them have same distance “d”?
    Anyway, if both them pass a vertically polarizer (90º), shouldn’t them have NOW same distance “d”?
    =============================================

    No,
    two photons can be created with the exact same distance d only when are produced via the process of broken an original photon in two twin photons.

    The fact that two photons pass a vertically polarizer (90º) does not mean that they must have the distance d.

    Two photons with different distances d can be polarized 90º . Each one has 50% of chance to be polarized.
    Polarization is a phenomenon of resonance between the distance d and the distance D between the atomic planes of the polarizer. The value of the distance d varies between a maximum and minimum to be polarized.

    .

    2) =============================================
    By the way, what does it means the linear polarization of a SINGLE photon? Shouldn’t it have only spin (circular polarization)?
    Shouldn’t linear polarization be a collective property of photons?
    =========================================

    The particle and antiparticle move in contrary direction, with the same angular velocity (about the line center of their helical trajectory). So they pass one in front to the other in two positions, separated by 180º.

    In vertical linear polarization, the particle and the antiparticle pass by the points 90º and 270º at the same time (90º and 270º are the points where they pass one in front to the other).
    They always pass one in front to the other in the points 90º and 270º in the linear polarization.

    Unlike, in the circular polarization the particle has a circular motion a litle slowly, and so the point of their meeting is always changing.

    regards
    wlad

  705. silvio caggia

    @Wladimir Guglinski
    Sorry, I missed someting…
    Two photons A and B, emitted from the SAME laser, can have different distances “d” between their particle and
    antiparticle? Shouldn’t them have same distance “d”?
    Anyway, if both them pass a vertically polarizer (90º), shouldn’t them have NOW same distance “d”?
    By the way, what does it means the linear polarization of a SINGLE photon? Shouldn’t it have only spin (circular polarization)?
    Shouldn’t linear polarization be a collective property of photons?
    Regards

  706. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    The requirement for AC makes me think an magnetic field, altering in polarity, may be needed to stimulate the reactions until they reach a certain level at which they become self sustaining. Another possibility is that the resistor coil acts like a helical antenna emitting an RF signal into the reactor. This second possibility seems less likely, due to the possibility that red hot resistors might have such a great resistance they may not transmit well.

    Can you elaborate at all on this? As always, I understand if you cannot. But after following this saga for years now, I’ll be thrilled when we can learn a bit more about what is happening: rather than only reading speculation that is probably 90% wrong that has been rehashed over and over on internet E-Cat forums.

    The E-Cat is a dream of an ideal energy source made manifest. I’m not a doubting Thomas, but perhaps a bit of a Zacchaeus, with a great curiosity , climbing up the “tree” of the internet to hear an explanation of whats happening that allows the E-Cat to work it’s wonders. If you were a prophet and the E-Cat was a barrel of water turned into wine, the situation would be so much easier. But since you are a scientist having to deal with patent laws, unsavory characters, and IP issues, the whole situation is much more complicated.

  707. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    In your question there is the answer. Obviously I cannot comment. Our Team is making all the necessary work to make the E Cat operate.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  708. Rafal Krych

    Dear Andrea,

    How about making your E-Cat reactors (both domestic & industrial) resistant to EMP (electromagnetic pulse). I mean to hide all electronic components inside metal shielding of reactor (Faraday cage) and maybe some extra fuses to protect against currents induced in external cabling. This might be very important in case of possible “Carrington Event” or human triggered EMP:
    http://www.wired.com/2012/02/massive-solar-flare/

    Such feature will make your reactors even better when comparing with classical energy sources which cannot be secured like this.

  709. Andrea Rossi

    Rafal Krych:
    Interesting issue, never thought about that. I will talk with out electronic experts to check what you write.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  710. Joe

    Wladimir,

    How is the creation of two new corpuscles for the two particles of a divided photon different in essence from hadronization which also involves an act of creation of particles from the vacuum (or aether, as you believe)?

    All the best,
    Joe

  711. Wladimir Guglinski

    silvio caggia wrote in September 13th, 2014 at 9:47 AM

    @Wladimir Guglinski

    Now I have some doubts that asked her (and still waiting for reply)
    1) What happens if NL2 is put before D2 (after b)?
    2) Why do you need to put the infrared beam (that hit O) before NL2?
    3) Whats happens if you reduce the distance between D3 and D2?
    I thing that you should maintain some reasonable doubt about this experiment till Gabriela answers these questions.
    =========================================

    Silvio,
    we have to wait Gabriela to make the experiments suggested by me.
    I even dont know if she will undertake them
    regards
    wlad

  712. Wladimir Guglinski

    silvio caggia wrote in September 13th, 2014 at 8:39 AM

    @Wladimir Guglinski
    If I well understood your thinking, the photon behaviour approaching a polarizer should be deterministic (its sub-particles have a determined distance between them) and not probabilistic (as QM says).
    So what should happen when a laser beam of vertically polarized photons approach a 45degree polarizer (or a beam splitter)?
    According to a deterministic approach all photons should get the same way…
    But experimental results say they get two different ways: 50% pass and 50% absorbed (or deviated in a beam splitter).
    Have I missed something?
    How your model explains the different behaviour of identical photons (same polarization)?
    I think that this is the core concept of QM, we must agree on this point before discussing about entanglement or Aspect experiment.
    =====================================

    Silvio,
    two photons with the same wavelenght can have different distances “d” between their particle and antiparticle.

    Suppose two photons A and B with the same wavelength, but in the photon A the distance is “d(a)”, and the distance in the photon B is “d(b)”.

    Both the photons A and B can be polarized vertically.

    So, suppose both them are polarized vertically (90º)

    Now suppose they both hit a polarizator 45º

    Their chance to be polarized 45º depends on their distances d(a) and d(b). For each one of them the chance is 50%.

    Only two twin photons (as created in Gabriela experiment) will have the same behavior, because they both have the same distance “d”.
    If one is polarized, the other is polarized too.
    If one is not polarized, the other also is not polarized.

    regards
    wlad

  713. Mark

    Hi Andrea,
    Lets not talk about controllability of the E-cat, can the Rossi effect be initiated by any heat source (gas, Dc, Ac, animal fat, coal,gasoline….)?

  714. Andrea Rossi

    Mark:
    No, only with AC, so far. R&D is on course for gas operated E-Cats.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  715. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in September 14th, 2014 at 9:28 PM

    Eric,

    Your suggestion about recreating a missing part of a particle by using the environment may be true. One example of such a speculated process is called hadronization:

    “In particle physics, hadronization (or hadronisation) is the process of the formation of hadrons out of quarks and gluons. This occurs after high-energy collisions in a particle collider in which free quarks or gluons are created. Due to postulated colour confinement, these cannot exist individually. In the Standard Model they combine with quarks and antiquarks SPONTANEOUSLY CREATED FROM THE VACUUM to form hadrons.” (capitalization is mine) (Wikipedia, Hadronization)
    ============================================

    Joe,
    there is a confusion here.

    in high-energy collisions there is collision between matter with matter, at high energy. As energy is converted to matter following Einstein’s equation E=mc² , the creation of quarks occurs.

    A similar phenomenon occurs when a photon is divided in the Gabriela experiment. The particle takes a direction, and as the photon cannot be formed by one unique corpuscle, a new antiparticle is created, and together with the particle they form the first new twin photon.

    The same happens with the antiparticle of the original photon. It takes another direction, and a perticle is created, and together with the antiparticle they form the second new thin photon.

    It is not the case in the entanglement between photons. They have to interact through a very long distance.
    And it is not the case of formation of a new photon. It is actually the case of change its polarization.

    regards
    wlad

  716. Andreas Moraitis

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Could the gas-powered reactors use a DC source (for example, a battery) as electrical input?

    Best regards,
    Andreas Moraitis

  717. Andrea Rossi

    Andreas Moraitis:
    Gas powered E-Cats are still in a very primitive R&D status, therefore I am not able to answer to your question. Sorry.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  718. Piergiorgio Mongioj

    Dear Andrea, you say “50 Hz or 60 Hz are frequencies at which the E-Cat can work properly”. So The E-Cat works properly… Very good news!!! Negative or positive? ;-) “Hot” regards. Piergiorgio Mongioj

  719. Andrea Rossi

    Piergiorgio Mongioj:
    I meant that the E-Cats can work properly “from the electrical point of view” if the frequency is either 50 or 60 Hz, I was not referring to the other data.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  720. Greg Leonard

    Dear AR
    Will the ecat work just as well with the American 60Hz and the British 50Hz mains electricity?

  721. Andrea Rossi

    Greg Leonard:
    Yes, 50 Hz or 60 Hz are frequencies at which the E-Cat can work properly. As a matter of fact, in the USA we have 60 Hz, while in Europe we have 50 Hz.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  722. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    You say that the E-Cat needs AC current to operate. My understanding is that the electricity is needed to run an electric resistance heater — could not DC current power a resistor and achieve the same effect?

    So what is additional purpose behind the need for AC?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  723. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    No, we need AC current: the E-Cat cannot be operated with DC current.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  724. Wladimir Guglinski

    Eric Ashworth
    September 14th, 2014 at 12:48 PM

    Could it be posible that if you split a rotating object then the two rotating objects will by means of the free aether be able to re-create its missing partner if it only needs one or two aethers. Could this explain the Gabriela experiment or am I completely off the mark. Regards Eric Ashworth
    ========================================

    Eric
    I dont believe, it

    That would require a very complex mechanism

    regards
    wlad

  725. Joe

    Eric,

    Your suggestion about recreating a missing part of a particle by using the environment may be true. One example of such a speculated process is called hadronization:

    “In particle physics, hadronization (or hadronisation) is the process of the formation of hadrons out of quarks and gluons. This occurs after high-energy collisions in a particle collider in which free quarks or gluons are created. Due to postulated colour confinement, these cannot exist individually. In the Standard Model they combine with quarks and antiquarks SPONTANEOUSLY CREATED FROM THE VACUUM to form hadrons.” (capitalization is mine) (Wikipedia, Hadronization)

    All the best,
    Joe

  726. Eric Ashworth

    To Wladimir and Joe, Thanks for your reply to my questions regarding QE. I will be following your comments which I enjoy on this blog. The subject of aether regarding its existence is, I believe, an important missing link in physics which if ever proven will provide major advances in the understanding of a complex subject. My understanding of aether is that it is a grainy substance with no gravity value because it lacks a dimension of volume but represents a value of size energy i.e. not volume energy. It will respond to gravity because gravity has to sit within a volume. Maybe aether can only make so much volume energy/ matter within a given volume and any remaining aether has to fill the empty space between the manufactured volumes and thereby the free aether will never be at rest as it takes straight line projectories to cover as much distance in the shortest possible time. Could it be posible that if you split a rotating object then the two rotating objects will by means of the free aether be able to re-create its missing partner if it only needs one or two aethers. Could this explain the Gabriela experiment or am I completely off the mark. Regards Eric Ashworth

  727. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    In considering the size of the nickel particles, it seems to me there must be an optimal nickel particle average diameter for the Rossi effect to work for industrial applications such as the Hot eCat. Assuming the eCat reactor is at temperature with the internal fuel close to but less than the melting point of nickel, then too small a nickel particle diameter and the particle will melt due to the nuclear event. Likewise, since the LENR effect appears to be a function of surface area, too large of a particle diameter will reduce the likelihood of an LENR effect. So there must be a “sweet zone” for the Rossi effect in terms of nickel particle size. Do you agree?

  728. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    As you know, I already answered to you regarding this issue.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  729. Dan C.

    DR. Rossi

    From images I’ve seen, it appears you still employ the flange on the reactor with the studs protruding out.

    This would indicate that the reactor would be positioned inside a boiler with the flange pressing against the wall squeezing the seal tight against that wall. As opposed to the flange being on the outside pressing the seal apart when under pressure & increasing the odds of springing a leak. Or worse, the reactor being jettisoned like a safety plug should the studs break off.

    Could one assume then that with the above configuration of the reactor mounted to the inner wall of the boiler, that the reactor core itself can be removed through the center of the flange without removal of the outer casing. This could involve just the hermetically sealed charge/insert or include the resistor coils imbedded in the ceramic insert should they need checked or replaced.

    I ask because in a comment you posted “When charges have to be changed the system is fast.”
    This configuration would be fast & possibly even done without shutting down the entire system to change a single dead reactor.

    Also with this design, The outer reactor shell could be built robust enough to last years or decades & become a physical part of the boiler. The reactor itself would then just be the core charge & resistor assembly.

  730. Andrea Rossi

    Dan C.:
    Thank you for your intelligent comment. Obviously you refer to the Hot Cat. As a matter of fact the issue you raised is correct, anyway the images you have seen were not related to an industrial plant, but to a bench prototype.
    Thank you for your attention and your suggestion.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  731. NCY

    Would it be possible to hook up a thermoelectric generator to an Ecat (with the Ecat as the heat source), produce electricity and with the aid of a small battery for a buffer, loop the electricity back into the Ecat for a demonstration device? Thermoelectic seems the simplest for this as they commonly have efficiencies of 5-8% which may be plenty for this application.
    NCY

  732. Andrea Rossi

    NCY:
    Any electric energy source is good for the E-Cat drive, provided :
    1- it must be alternate current ( the E-Cat cannot work with direct current)
    2- it must be e very elastic source, due to the control system technology
    3- it must have an efficiency enough to save the economic convenience of the E-Cat
    For these reasons the integration of the Seebeck Effect with the so called Rossi Effect does not work: so far the efficiency of the Seebeck Effect is too low ( max 5%, more likely 3%, minus the loss to convert DC into AC).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  733. DTravchenko

    Dr Rossi:
    Do you think that gas will substitute electric power to make the E-Cats work?
    I noticed all your public tests have been made using electricity.
    Warm Regards,
    DT

  734. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    We have an R&D section working on gas activated E-Cats, and I think we will be able to resolve the problems we have.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  735. JCRenoir

    Did you ever make experiments to treat with the Rossi Effect radioactive wastes from thermonuclear plants? There are rumors you did .
    JCRenoir

  736. Andrea Rossi

    JCRenoir:
    Yes, with inconclusive results.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  737. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Thank you, useful link.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  738. Joseph Fine

    AR,

    Sorry. I sent the plot/picture of High Entropy Alloys without the article. The link to the original article is below.

    http://newscenter.lbl.gov/2014/09/04/a-metallic-alloy-that-is-tough-and-ductile-at-cryogenic-temperatures/

    Joseph Fine

  739. JCRenoir

    Dr Rossi:
    Can you explain better the “five sigma” thing?
    JCRenoir

  740. Andrea Rossi

    JCRenoir:
    The classic example is the case of flipping a coin: you have a 50% chance that it will be face 1 and 50% that it will be face 2. Obviously if you flip 100 times the coin, it is unlikely you get 50 F1 and 50 F2, most likely you will get 45-55 times either one face or the other: this interval 45-55 is in this example “sigma 1″; means that if you find from 45 through 55 times a face flipping 100 times, there is no event at all, because it is normal. If a stretch of 10 is sigma 1, we will have a stretch of 20 = sigma 2, a stretch of 30= sigma 3, a stretch of 40= sigma 4, a stretch of 50= sigma 5; this means that the higher the value of sigma, the higher the possibility that there is something, that you are looking for, that makes a work: in the case of the coin, can be a trick that makes the coin fraudolent, in case of Physics can be a force that breaks the symmetry or something else. If you get a sigma 5 the probability that there is a break of the normality is very close to be certain ( in Physics nothing is certain, everything has a higher or lower grade of probability).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  741. Roberto

    Dear Andrea, two questions:
    The current international situation is affecting the delay of the report release?
    Without Focardi and the fantastic Italian academic world made ​​of humble people would have the E-Cat existed ?
    Regards, Roberto

  742. Andrea Rossi

    Roberto:
    I do not see how the current international situation could affect the report release. The Report of the ITP has been delayed by nothing but the necessity of a proper review. All Physicists know that the publication of an important paper can take from 6 to 12 months.
    Prof. Sergio Focardi has given a strong help to the development of the E-Cat.
    Many Professors from the Italian academic world have given an important contribution. The E-Cat is the result of an international team work without which the E-Cat probably could not have been born.

  743. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Thank you, useful information.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  744. Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi,

    Just saw this article on high-entropy alloys.

    The article only focused on cryogenic applications, but these materials may also have exceptional properties in high temperature applications.

    You may find these materials of some use in your R & D.

    http://newscenter.lbl.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/08/Rob-Ritchie-alloys-paper.jpg

    http://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/15/12/5338 (Click on PDF; Open Access)

    High-Entropy regards,

    Joseph Fine

  745. Curiosone

    We are now going toward the period of the Christmas gifts, and books are among the more donated gifts: which book would you suggest to give as a gift in the LENR neighbourhood?
    W.G.

  746. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    Sigma can be two different things:
    1- a boson of the family of Barions, inside the Hadron system. Is a virtual particle, can have positive, neutral and negative charge.
    2- a probabilistic interval that measures statistically the probability that an event is real: for example, sigma 1 makes the extraordinary event unlikely, sigma five makes the event close to certain.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  747. Curiosone

    What is “sigma” in nuclear physics?
    W.G.

  748. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    Norman Cook ” Models of the Atomic Nucleus”, 2nd edition, Springer, 2010
    Is a gold mine.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  749. DTravchenko

    Dr Rossi:
    In Russia we have enormous reserves of gas: do you think we can take advantage from the E-Cats using gas?
    Warm Regards,
    DT

  750. silvio caggia

    @Wladimir Guglinski
    About the Gabriela’s experiment I finally got the setup schema:
    i.imgur.com/nwHb1qp.jpg
    The red line is the infrared path while the yellow line is the red light path. Yeah, a bit confusingly…
    It is very different from what I imagined from the article you posted here, there are not the two arms to apply my suggestions.
    Now I have some doubts that asked her (and still waiting for reply)
    1) What happens if NL2 is put before D2 (after b)?
    2) Why do you need to put the infrared beam (that hit O) before NL2?
    3) Whats happens if you reduce the distance between D3 and D2?
    I thing that you should maintain some reasonable doubt about this experiment till Gabriela answers these questions.

  751. silvio caggia

    @Wladimir Guglinski
    If I well understood your thinking, the photon behaviour approaching a polarizer should be deterministic (its sub-particles have a determined distance between them) and not probabilistic (as QM says).
    So what should happen when a laser beam of vertically polarized photons approach a 45degree polarizer (or a beam splitter)?
    According to a deterministic approach all photons should get the same way…
    But experimental results say they get two different ways: 50% pass and 50% absorbed (or deviated in a beam splitter).
    Have I missed something?
    How your model explains the different behaviour of identical photons (same polarization)?
    I think that this is the core concept of QM, we must agree on this point before discussing about entanglement or Aspect experiment.

  752. Alessandro Coppi

    Hi Andrea, when the ITP2 will be released, we can imagine an huge number of requests for the paper at the same time, and the web server could be overloaded, becoming unavailable.
    Are your IT guys aware on this issue?

    Best regards
    Alessandro Coppi

  753. Andrea Rossi

    Alessandro Coppi:
    This is an issue to be assessed by the publisher. The publication will not be made by us.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  754. timycelyn1

    Dear Andrea,
    now that the 1MW plant has been delivered to your Customer, are you able to return to focusing your attention on the rest of the research you are pursuing, or does the 1MW plant still take up your time?

    Best wishes

    Tim

  755. Andrea Rossi

    Timycelyn1:
    I will have to control the operation of the 1 MW plant closely, but also participate to the R&D.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  756. Wladimir Guglinski

    Discussion on entanglement in the JoNP blog posted in ZPEnergy:

    http://zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3571

    .

  757. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    It seems to me there must be an optimal size for the nickel particles used in the Rossi effect. I suppose too large a particle and the surface area effect decreases. Too small a particle and the small particle melts by the generate energy before the thermal energy can be conducted away. Comments?

  758. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    This issue has been described in the Patent granted to Andrea Rossi in Italy with priority April 2008.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  759. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Good news about the movement of the 1MW plant from your factory to the customers’ factory! Is transporting the plant a difficult procedure? I hope it is not something that is easily damaged.

    Best wishes,

    Frank

  760. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    The 1 MW units do not carry transportation troubles.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  761. Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Andrea,

    Can you please explain now, after a few years, the reason why 1 MW was the minimum size of output that you offered to customers ?
    As people know, the (original) 1MW plant consists of modules of +/- 30kW.

    Since your R&D allows to have better control on the Rossi-Effect, nowadays it may be possible to have a continuous and guaranteed output with units smaller than 1 MW. Do you think that smaller units are a viable option ?

    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  762. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    Of course small units are a viable option; the choice to limit the market to big units is dictated by commercial strategies integrated with IP issues. The destiny of the E-Cat is to be produced, if it works, in a mass of small and big models: your comment matches with Argon’s I answered to few minutes ago.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  763. Argon

    Dear Andrea! I respect your inventing merit and copyright. However, i would like to see alive the Rossi-Focardy effects creation of energy in the Ni-H systems and show this fact for my friends and students. Even simple and without the resources to long working model of a power of several watts. As an example, is a model internal combustion engine for school . They twisted and smoked, they can be taken apart and repaired, but for commercial engines are not competitors in any case, and not threatened anybody’s patents or business. Also the question of finance for the purchase of large E-сat will be perceived our potential sponsors much closer after meeting with the current model

  764. Andrea Rossi

    Argon:
    If and when the so called Rossi Effect will be produced in millions of apparatuses, it will be available universally as a car engine today. At the time of Dr Diesel it was not so easy to have engines, even small, in a classroom…
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  765. Mark Saker

    Dear Andrea,

    ‘If’ the report is positive, will you be able to supply at least some video or a photo of the new 1MW plant running to release at the same time

    At the very least, it will give the media a nice video-bite to play on the news? Perhaps you could speak with IH marketing (although I would hope they have thought of this already)!

    I really hope the report is released soon, I’m getting far too anxious! :)

  766. Andrea Rossi

    Mark Saker:
    The 1 MW plant is in the factory of a Customer of IH. As far as I know, the Customer will not allow any video for the time being. IH has not jurisdiction in the factories of the Customers as for what is related to videos to be published. Eventually specific visits, as I already said, will be allowed, but it is too soon to talk about this. Report of the ITP: I do not think it will take too long before the publication, but this is just a supposition of mine.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  767. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    You say that E-Cat production will be an international concern — do you expect to be manufacturing E-Cat plants outside the United States? If so, where do you anticipate production facilities will be located?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  768. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Presently the manufacturing is made in the USA. I am not informed about a dislocation. In the USA you can find very skilled and efficient employees at any level.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  769. Bob

    Dear Andrea Rossi

    Can you share with your readers any information about progress or setbacks in the effort to integrate the e-cat into a gas turbine aircraft powerplant?

    Thanks

    Bob

  770. Andrea Rossi

    Bob:
    Yes, this is an issue on course in our R&D program. When we will have results worth to be communicated, we surely will give information. So far we are distant from valid results, honestly.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  771. Hello Andrea,

    Recently people who follow news about the ECat have been discussing William McDonough, who has collaborated with Tom Darden in various projects. Mr. McDonough’s “Cradle-to-Cradle” site encourages industry to develop and enrich ecosystems (as opposed to minimizing harm).

    It would seem to be a Phenomenological approach to the industrial process.

    Are you familiar with William McDonough’s work such as “Cradle-to-Cradle”?

  772. Andrea Rossi

    Thomas Florek:
    Yes, I have known William Mc Donough in the factory of IH in Raleigh, and he explained to me the cradle-to-cradle concept. Very smart guy and a brilliant speaker. I agree with the basics of his philosophy.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  773. Curiosone

    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    Do you think that the study of Astrophysics can be useful for the LENR?
    W.G.

  774. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    Yes, see for example the work of Raiola cited in the paper Focardi-Rossi. Astrophysics are an infinite source of information. Did you see the photos of the Universe published by NASA? What a wonderful thing!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  775. JCRenoir

    Please, Dr Rossi: is there a term upon which you could bet 1$ for the publication of the Independent Third Party Report?

  776. Andrea Rossi

    JC Renoir:
    I am very sorry, but whatever I say could be wrong and if I give just a guess, it could be taken as an information.
    I do not think it will take long, though.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  777. JCRenoir

    Are the control systems of the 1MW plant made by some specialist like National Instruments or similar?

  778. Andrea Rossi

    JC Renoir:
    No, we made the control systems by our electronic engineers. We designed and produced all the control system inside our factory.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  779. DTravchenko

    Another question:
    Are there women in the ITP?
    DT

  780. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    I will continue my R&D work.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  781. DTravchenko

    Dr Rossi:
    What you will do if the results of the Independent Third Party will be positive?
    Warm Regards,
    DT

  782. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    Yes, one. She is a nuclear physicist.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  783. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Do you think the TRP has been completed, or do you think it is still being worked on?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  784. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    I do not know, sorry.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  785. Wladimir Guglinski

    silvio caggia wrote in September 10th, 2014 at 6:25 AM

    @Wladimir Guglinski
    Only for sake of truth, the “simple” explanation is based on QM, the “less simple” is a complete reformulation of phisics from the fundamentals as you ask, so in contrast with QM and Relativity. ======================================

    Dear Silvio,
    by reformulation of physics I mean from fundamentals agree to the logic.
    In my oppinion go back in the time is not agree to logic.

    I dont see advantage in replacing an old theory as Quantum Mechanics, developed from some absurd postulates as the Bohr Principle of Complementarity, by other new theory developed from new absurd postulates.

    regards
    wlad

  786. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in September 10th, 2014 at 12:35 AM

    Wladimir,

    Since you believe that aether and space are identical with each other, how would it be possible for you to know that there is a greater density of aether near a star since the measuring rod that exists near the star is contracted due to gravity to the same degree that aether is condensed? In other words, the greater density would look average (d=1) when measured using a contracted rod. (The only solution, of course, is to consider space as nonphysical and therefore beyond the influence of physical processes.)
    =============================================

    Joe,
    the fact that the physical properties of the aether cannot be measured by experiments does not mean that they do not exist.
    It is only a limitation of the technology available.

    Michelson did not succeed to detect the existence of the aether with his experimment, but today new experiments made via new technologies are proving its existence.

    regards
    wlad

  787. Roberto

    Dear Andrea, thanks for the answer
    obviously, as Italian this makes me very sad and disappointed, you are our new gioconda that gets out of hand.
    Roberto

  788. Andrea Rossi

    Nero of Florence:
    R&D and ITP work are both on course: the results are still pending and at last could be either positive or negative.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  789. Nero_of_Florence

    Dear Andrea, always you are telling of “negative or positive” … This is good for ITP and NDA, but… you must know how the e_cats – warm and hot ;-) – operate and what they are producing… What about this? I think you may be more affermative… all in your clear responsability… I apologize for my poor english and… good luck for your R&D… and busyness!

  790. Carlo Marcena

    I do not think that AR will be served a Golden Tapire …

    Warm Regards,
    CM

  791. silvio caggia

    @joe
    For sake of truth, in Reciprocal System time is ONLY an ASPECT of motion, 3Dtime is a deduction from postulates, not an ad hoc postulate. Material sector (3Dspace+clock time) and Cosmic sector (3Dtime+clock space) are ONLY PROJECTIONS. As you say Time and Space are mental objects. The only real thing is Motion.

  792. Giuliano Bettini

    Roberto:
    sorry, I don’t think so. :(
    Giuliano Bettini.

  793. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    …, but if the results will be negative, the Golden Tapire will be served to me.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  794. Roberto

    Dear Andrea,
    As italian, I’ll give you a very direct question, Italy will have a direct and tangible benefit from your new technology compared to other countries?
    Roberto

  795. Andrea Rossi

    Roberto:
    If the results of the R&D and tests on course will be positive, the development of this technology will be based on an international concern. I must invite you to remind that the results could also be negative.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  796. silvio caggia

    @Wladimir Guglinski
    Only for sake of truth, the “simple” explanation is based on QM, the “less simple” is a complete reformulation of phisics from the fundamentals as you ask, so in contrast with QM and Relativity. Regards

  797. Joe

    Wladimir,

    Since you believe that aether and space are identical with each other, how would it be possible for you to know that there is a greater density of aether near a star since the measuring rod that exists near the star is contracted due to gravity to the same degree that aether is condensed? In other words, the greater density would look average (d=1) when measured using a contracted rod. (The only solution, of course, is to consider space as nonphysical and therefore beyond the influence of physical processes.)

    All the best,
    Joe

  798. Joe

    Silvio,

    Let us assume that time is physical.
    In that case, it would be described as linear since we observe events evolving in one temporal direction. But a linear dimension also implies a potential negative direction – a going backwards in time. But since we do not observe such a backwards evolution of events, we can safely and scientifically (since science is based on observation) conclude that time is therefore not a linear dimension. And what is more, if it is not a linear dimension, it is most certainly not an entity consisting of three linear dimensions. The Reciprocal System by Larson is really just an enforced symmetry on what we popularly call 3D space and 1D time, rendering a 3D time and 1D space. But such an act is gratuitous, a mere concoction that will most certainly fail in predicting physical phenomena. Any theory that is solid is derived from first principles – built from the bottom up. The Reciprocal System was built in a lateral movement – a horizontal work rather than the needed vertical one.

    All the best,
    Joe

  799. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    1 – Are there any E-Cat reactors in China at this time?

    2 – As Chief Scientist, do you get to choose who is hired to head the Chinese research project?

    3 – Where will the funding for the Chinese research project originate?

    4 – Have you considered opening an E-Cat acadamy for when the tech starts entering the market in a big way? Those who enrolled could study theory, operation of reactors, construction, safety, etc. Then they could be certified to work E-Cat related jobs in manufacturing, maintenance, servicing, inspecting, etc. I’d be interested in enrolling.

    Thank you.

  800. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    1- no
    2- no
    3- I am not involved in this
    4- we are considering how to prepare certified operators: this is an important issue
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  801. Wladimir Guglinski

    Eric Ashworth wrote in September 9th, 2014 at 12:10 AM

    The two objects must have the same identical resonance. What would Wladimir think of this. As I have said this subject is fascinating. Regards Eric Ashworth
    =========================================

    Eric,
    my friend Dr. Claudio Nassif is the author of a new version for the Theory of Relativity, by introducing the concept the aether in the Einstein’s theory.

    Nassif already published 4 papers in the most prestigious journals of Physics, as for instance in the International Journal of Modern Physics D.

    His theory is named Symmetric Special Relativity – SSR.

    In his theory Nassif shows that there is in the aether a sort of propagation of longitudinal waves with speed several times faster than the speed of light. They can cross the universe in few seconds.

    And Nassif supposed that such very fast interaction could be the cause of the entanglement in the Alain Aspect experiment.

    However such explanation supposed by Nassif cannot work, because such very fast interaction propagates itself LONGITUDINALLY along the aether.

    But in order to change the polarization of a photon there is need to apply a rotation in the photon. In order words, there is need to change the angular momentum. But the longitudinal propagations faster than light are not able to produce a change in the angular momentum of a photon, because they are longitudinal.

    That’s why your idea (similar to that supposed by Nassif) cannot explain the “apparent” entanglement in the Alain Aspect experiment.

    regards
    wlad

  802. Wladimir Guglinski

    Eric Ashworth wrote in September 9th, 2014 at 12:10 AM

    The two objects must have the same identical resonance. What would Wladimir think of this. As I have said this subject is fascinating. Regards Eric Ashworth
    =========================================

    Eric,
    the polarization of a photon cannot be changed via resonance with other photon

    regards
    wlad

  803. Wladimir Guglinski

    silvio caggia wrote in September 9th, 2014 at 5:49 PM

    @joe
    Quantum Entanglement has interesting explanations at the cost that you exit from the mainstream phisics…
    A “simple” explanation is that the entangled particles are connected THRU time… you find details in Transactional Interpretation o QM by John Cramer.
    A “less simple” explanation is that space and time are not phisical containers but only aspects of the real constituent of whole universe: scalar motion. We live in a projection of scalar motion in a 3D space+clock time reference system, but there is also a reciprocal 3Dtime+clock space reference system… You find details in Reciprocal System of theory by Larson.
    ================================================

    COMMENT

    Silvio,
    500 years ago Galileo said that science and logic cannot be divorced. If somebody creates a theory divorced to logic, you can be sure that his theory is wrong, because the Nature does not work divorced to logic.

    The problem of Modern Physics started when Einstein proposed a theory divorced to logic, where an empty space can have contraction and dilation.
    Following the Einstein’s example, the creators of the Quantum Mechanics, lead by Heisenberg, developed a theory divorced to logic too, because they supposed be impossible to create a theory in the field of quantum physics compatible with the logic.

    The origin of the crisis in the Modern Physics was the empty space proposed by Einstein.
    Because of the elimination of the physical space (aether) in the Theoretical Physics, many hidden mechanisms used by the Nature in the production of the phenomena were neglected by the theorists. And this is the reason why many of them used the desperate resource of trying crazy theoretical solutions.

    So, the physicists were induced to believe that Nature is no logic, and such conclusion opened the door for all the sort of theories based on several crazy hypothesis.

    In such a panorama, along the years, when a new paradox appeared defying the current theories, the theorist used to propose solutions divorced to the logic.

    Many experiments published along the 5 last years are showing that Quantum Mechanics was developed from wrong foundations. And the experiment published by the journal Nature in 2011 showed that Einstein’s theory of empty space is wrong.

    Therefore,
    it is not now the time to keep the crazy solutions adopted by some theorists along the years with the aim to explain paradoxes not solved via the current Quantum Mechanics and the Theory of Relativity, because all those crazy solutions are based on the wrong foundations of Quantum Mechanics.

    It is now the time of starting everything again, from the zero, by introducing the concept of aether in the Relativity, and by introducing several new principles missing in the Quantum Mechanics.
    This is the only way.

    The Nature is not crazy.
    But crazy theories sometimes are proposed when some theorists develop them by starting up from the assumption that Nature is crazy.

    regards
    wlad

  804. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in September 9th, 2014 at 12:21 PM

    Wladimir,

    Aether (physical) and space (mental) are not identical with each other. How can you ascertain the dilation or contraction, i.e. the change in density, of aether without a FIXED space in which the aether could operate, and against which the aether could be measured?
    =======================================================

    Joe,
    I call density d=1 of the aether those regions far away of the presence of matter (for instance, the intergalactic space between stars).

    The density of the aether around a star could be established via the gravitational field of the star.
    Suppose that only one star was existing in the universe.
    The regions very far away of the star, where the gravity is practically zero, would be regions with density d=1 of the aether.
    In a point near to the star, the density of the aether would be changing proportional to the square of the distance between that point and the star.

    regards
    wlad

  805. silvio caggia

    @joe
    Quantum Entanglement has interesting explanations at the cost that you exit from the mainstream phisics…
    A “simple” explanation is that the entangled particles are connected THRU time… you find details in Transactional Interpretation o QM by John Cramer.
    A “less simple” explanation is that space and time are not phisical containers but only aspects of the real constituent of whole universe: scalar motion. We live in a projection of scalar motion in a 3D space+clock time reference system, but there is also a reciprocal 3Dtime+clock space reference system… You find details in Reciprocal System of theory by Larson.
    Note: both explanations require that you reconsider deeply the nature of time.

  806. H-G Branzell

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    The acronym should be ITPR, not TIPR because it is a report from an independent third party. It is neither a report from a third independent party nor the third report from an independent party, i. e. is an (ITP)R but neither a (TIP)R nor a T(IPR).
    Best regards, H-G Branzell

  807. Andrea Rossi

    H-G Branzell:
    You are right.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  808. Joe

    Wladimir,

    Aether (physical) and space (mental) are not identical with each other. How can you ascertain the dilation or contraction, i.e. the change in density, of aether without a FIXED space in which the aether could operate, and against which the aether could be measured?

    All the best,
    Joe

  809. Joe

    Eric,

    You bring up three important points:

    1. You are right to be concerned about the manner in which the physical world would connect to the mental world of space and time. The interface is very subtle. It is hard to tease the two worlds apart.

    2. The reason QE is a hard subject for QM is because QM believes that QE is fundamentally nebulous – probabilistic rather than deterministic. But I have already explained how a Nature based on uncertainty would not even exist.

    3. Many years ago, I had contemplated the use of an incompressible medium. But that brings with itself a whole new set of incongruities. (It would be possible to explain instantaneity over a short distance but not over a long distance what with disturbances of the medium with various physical phenomena.)

    All the best,
    Joe

  810. Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Andrea,
    thank you very much for your very positive answer.
    This opens new perspective on “positive or negative”.
    Did you or your team make important or structural modifications on the low temperature e-cat and high-temperature e-cat because of this improved control on the Rossi-Effect ?
    Will the patents, if ever granted, not be outdated or obsolete because of this ?
    I hope you and your team find a way out.
    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  811. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    The evolution of our technology is permanent and depends on the R&D on course amd the tests. For obvious reasons, the most important test is the TIPR related one.
    IP is matter of out patent attorneys.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  812. Eric Ashworth

    Joe, Regards your comment to Wladimir. You state ” So since space and time are non physical they are no impediments to the concept of instanteneity. Therefore, instantaneity can exist in reality. You could equally state that distance and duration are non physical concepts but without the physical these non physical concepts would not exist as a concept of reality. Instantaneity is an event that without the physical would not exist as a concept (as a conceived idea). The photon I think of as a minute physical structure and thereby is able to bring into existence the concept of space and time. I find physics fscinating but I am not academic and therefore non technical. This concept of entanglement with regards a split photon, if my understanding is correct, could it be that the word entanglement could be misleading?. As an example would it be accurate to describe a radio set entangled with a transmitter. As I see it, because there is no such thing as empty space, resonance is able to maintain a connection over any distance due to the aether i.e. not exactly an entanglement more of a ‘knock on effect’ moreso like two objects connected by a solid rod providing instantaneouse reaction. The two objects must have the same identical resonance. What would Wladimir think of this. As I have said this subject is fascinating. Regards Eric Ashworth.

  813. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in September 8th, 2014 at 6:19 PM

    Wladimir,

    1) ====================
    There is nothing wrong with a hypothesis being proven wrong. That proof can take either of two forms: logical or experimental. In the case of Aristotle, it is experimental.
    ==========================

    Galileo proved it not only experimentally.
    He proved it by logic.
    If you take a body with mass m and other heavier body with mass M and glue them togehter, the body with mass M+m needs to fall down slowly than the body with mass M, because the body with mass m will retard the falling down of the body with mass M.
    But the body with mass M+m must fall down faster than the body with mass M, because M+m is heavier.
    Therefore there is a paradox: the body with mass M+m cannot fall down slowly and faster than the body with mass M, and therefore all the bodies fall down with the same acceleration.

    ,

    2)=======================
    In the case of Einstein, it is logical. His example is self-contradicting as I have shown in my previous post.
    ========================

    Einstein’s theory is illogical because he supposed that space is empty. But as he realized that space must have dilation, then he decided to connect space and time, by creating the concept of space-time.

    However space and time are not connected.
    Actually space is physical (the aether).
    And time actually does not exist (it is only a mathematical concept used so that to measure the evolution of mass changings).

    A new experiment published in the journal Nature in 2011 prove be wrong Einstein’s concept of empty space:
    Light created from vacuum shows empty space a myth
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/Light-created-from-vacuum-shows-empty-space-a-myth/articleshow/10789049.cms

    .

    3)============================
    But there is no room for contradicting realities in science.
    =============================

    Yes, as said Galileo.
    That’s why I decided to develop my theory, in order to discover if it would be possible to eliminate the nonsenses of Modern Phusics (introduced firstly by Einstein).

    .

    4) ======================
    So his hypothesis – the physicality of space and time – must be wrong.
    ========================

    Not for the space.
    The space is physical.
    Only the time is non-physical, because actually time does not exist.
    The contraction and dilation of the space-time supposed by Einstein is actually due to the dilation and contraction of the aether

    .

    5) ======================
    There can be no experiment that will prove otherwise.

    So since space and time are nonphysical, they are no impediment to the concept of instantaneity. Therefore instantaneity can exist in reality.
    ============================

    Being the space physical, there is no way to have an instantenous interaction between two paticles aparted far away one of the other.

    .

    6) ===========================
    But as I have also explained in another previous post, the concept of QE is illogical and therefore can not exist realistically even though it is popularly associated with the concept of instantaneity.
    ==============================

    QE is illogical in Quantum Mechanics, because wrongly interpreted by quantum theorists.

    regards
    wlad

  814. Lata

    Hi Andrea,
    Is it possible to induce radioactivity in e-cat fuel through LENR reactions and then use the activated fuel for Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator(RTG). If this can be done, the end product will be simplified and it will be easier to protect the trade secrets because you will be giving away only the activated fuel not the whole e-cat setup. You already see transmutations in e-cat, so this should be possible.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioisotope_thermoelectric_generator

    Regards,
    Lata

  815. Andrea Rossi

    Lata:
    No, it is not possible. Besides, we do not produce any radioactive residual, as well as we do not use any radioactive material. The E-Cat works in a totally different way. The thermoelectric device you gave the link of is a classic generator based upon the Seebeck Effect, that I know pretty well, having worked with it for many years. The particular application fueled by radioactive isotopes has been used by NASA in space devices like spaceships, satellites etc. As a source has been normally used plutonium. This application has been abandoned, due to the risk related to a possible fall of the apparatus on the surface of the Earth. All this has nothing to do with the possible applications of the E-Cat.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  816. Joe

    Wladimir,

    You write,
    “Galileo proved that Aristotle was wrong by making the experiment in the Pisa tower.”

    There is nothing wrong with a hypothesis being proven wrong. That proof can take either of two forms: logical or experimental. In the case of Aristotle, it is experimental. In the case of Einstein, it is logical. His example is self-contradicting as I have shown in my previous post. But there is no room for contradicting realities in science. So his hypothesis – the physicality of space and time – must be wrong. There can be no experiment that will prove otherwise.

    So since space and time are nonphysical, they are no impediment to the concept of instantaneity. Therefore instantaneity can exist in reality.

    But as I have also explained in another previous post, the concept of QE is illogical and therefore can not exist realistically even though it is popularly associated with the concept of instantaneity.

    All the best,
    Joe

  817. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    I was specifically asking about the units which were used in the configuration of the 1 Mev devices. I assume they were all tested with the same routine to assure consistent operating values. In this testing, were there large deviations in outputs and did they perform reliably with a minimum of failure upon startup procedures?
    Fond regards.

  818. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Wrong, we need a certification for the domestic E-Cats: no reliable insurances can give a proper and consistent insurance for non certified apparatuses.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  819. Tom Conover

    Dear Andrea,

    1) Was the 1st TIP conducted on the older style Ecat?
    2) Was the 2nd TIP conducted on the newer style Activator-Ecat?

    Thanks in advance!

    God bless you,

    Tom Conover

  820. Andrea Rossi

    Tom Conover:
    The report will contain the detailed description of the test. I am not able to answer because I have not been there continuously.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  821. Wladimir Guglinski

    silvio caggia wrote in September 5th, 2014 at 8:01 PM

    @Vladimir Guglinski
    By the way…
    Which is your model interpretation of Wheeler’s delayed choice experiment?
    =================================

    Dear Silvio
    the error comes from this wrong interpretation by quantum theorists:

    ——————————————-
    If the apparatus is changed so that a second beam splitter is placed in the upper-right corner, then the two detectors will exhibit interference effects. Experimenters must explain these phenomena as consequences of the wave nature of light. They may affirm that each photon must have traveled by both paths as a wave else that photon could not have interfered with itself.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler%27s_delayed_choice_experiment
    ——————————————-

    The error is because quantum theorist suppose that the photon is a wave-particle duality.

    The photon is NOT a wave-particle duality.

    The photon is a corpuscle formed by particle-antiparticle moving by helical trajectory, and the wave feature of the photon is due to its helical trajectory.

    In 2012 an experiment made by Aephraim Steinberg proved that the photon can have interference with itself, which was supposed impossible by the quantum theorists, because they dont know the true structure of the photon.
    http://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.109.100404

    So,
    the photon is NOT a wave-particle duality, as believed the quantum theorists along 100 years.
    The photon is a corpuscle moving with helical trajectory, and its wave feature is consequence of its helical trajectory, and that’s why the photon can have interference with itself.

    The photon decides NOTHING in the Wheeler’s experiment, because the photon has AT THE SAME TIME the two features corpuscle and wave, because the photon is a corpuscle and the wave feature is due to the helical trajectory of the corpuscle.

    Therefore the quantum theorists had interpreted wrongly the Wheeler’s experiment, because they wrongly supposed that the photon cannot have interference with itself.

    regards
    wlad

  822. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    You must have run hundreds of units at this time. Can you tell us if their is a deviation of output you have measured between units? If so, how large(1% or more). Also, do you have any reliability numbers for successful unit operations you can release?
    Thanks for any information you can release.

  823. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    We did not note discrepances between them.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  824. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in September 7th, 2014 at 8:02 PM

    Wladimir,

    I deduced that space and time are not physical through the use of reason.
    See my post on September 1st, 2014 at 6:42 PM.
    =================================

    Dear Joe,
    Aristotle also had deduced through the use of reason several assumptions, later proved wrong by Galileo, because Aristotle did not take in account some hidden mechanisms which work as cause of some phenomena. For instance, Galileo left two body with different masses to fall down from the Piza tower, and proved that they arrive at the same time in the ground, while Aristotle believed that heavy bodies fall down faster than light ones.

    Aristotle was suggested to think wrongly that lighter bodies fall down slowly than heavy ones because leaves of trees fall slowly, and he did not realize that leaves fall slowly due to their interaction with the air.

    So, dear Joe,
    it seems to me that you had been suggested to think that two entangled photons interact instantaneously because Alain Aspect experiment had suggested such conclusion to all the quantum theorists, because they do not know the structure of the photon, and so they are committing the same mistake commited by Aristotle.

    Galileo proved that Aristotle was wrong by making the experiment in the Piza tower.

    Dont you think that we have to undertake new experiments (like those suggested by me to Gabriela Lemos), so that to discover the true physical mechamisms of the photons entanglement?

    regards
    wlad

  825. gillana

    Dear Dr. A.Rossi.
    From your recent reply to Mr. Jc Renoir there is a point on wich I fail to agree with you.
    Define “important” negative result on the test TIP2 would seem a contradiction, I would describe it as a “disaster”, or am I missing something?
    Best regards
    Gillana

  826. Andrea Rossi

    Gillana:
    “disaster” is not correct, because a negative result should put in evidence errors to be corrected, not a final failure. Anyway, I am not a semiologist.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  827. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    I agree that if the TPR2 is positive it would give the entire field of LENR a huge boost. However isn’t that going to work against you somewhat since then your rivals would be able to attract much more support for their projects. Even I would be tempted to write a proposal for development of a system on the basis of this report that shows the feasibility of extracting energy from the nucleus. The number of possible approaches are large(I can thing of at least a dozen), and there is abundant venture monies available in the financial world(almost all internet startups can get some funding). If you are allowing the inspectors to generate this information for altruistic reasons, I commend you, but that is the only reason I see for your generosity.
    Regards from your friend

  828. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    We made tests with many different configurations and there are deviations in the outputs, depending on many factors.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  829. Joe

    Wladimir,

    I deduced that space and time are not physical through the use of reason.
    See my post on September 1st, 2014 at 6:42 PM.

    All the best,
    Joe

  830. KL

    Dear Mr Rossi

    Whilst we await the publication of the TIP, which we understand may be positive or negative, can you comment on the current level of confidence in your technology amongst the qualified/experienced engineers and scientists with whom you have been working at IH?

    Best regards.

    KL

  831. Andrea Rossi

    KL:
    We are a great Team. We are making together a strong work of R&D, industrialization. It is soon to know if the results will be positive or negative, but we are working together with enthusiasm. I am helped in my work as I never have been in my life.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  832. Henry Ethancourt

    Hello all. This is HOT news. A photograph recently taken right in the lab of Industrial canned Heat, LLC, showing the CEO of IcH and the CEO of Leonarduck Corporation at work.
    The reaction catalyst appears to be a well-known Italian product!

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byy1eWi2Qr7JLTU1LUVtbFFQcHM/edit?usp=sharing

  833. Andrea Rossi

    Henry Ethancourt:
    He,he,he,he,he!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  834. Italo R.

    Dear Dr. Rossi, don’t you think that in future, when your QUAR will be applied all over the world in hundreds of million pieces, there will be less wars due to oil?

    Peaceful Regards

  835. Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.:
    I already know what I need:
    Lavolale, Lavolale!
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  836. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in September 5th, 2014 at 1:27 AM

    Wladimir,

    Space and time are not of the physical world. That does not mean that the physical world does not exist. The physical world is not constrained by space and time. But our view of the physical world IS constrained by space and time since they are mental objects.

    Dear Joe
    where did you get from the idea that space and time are not of the physical world and they are mental objects ?

  837. Roberto

    Steven N Karels
    Regarding the onion question; I think we have to consider to how many joule we can produce by surface and the ability to convert it to power.
    Regards, Roberto

  838. Anonymous

    Mr. Rossi,

    A few times you have suggested that particular commercialization steps would wait or depend on the third party test (or at least that has been my understanding). Have your customers or investors tied specific contracts or investments to the results of the third party tests? Or is it just the case that you believe that a positive result will have an important impact on the success and recognition of the E-Cat.

    If this veers into confidential territory then obviously please disregard this question.

    Thank you for taking the time to answer isofar as you are able.

    F

  839. Andrea Rossi

    Anonymous:
    Again we lost in the spam your comment as I tried to publish it. Very strange. Anyway, thank you for your kind considerations and sustain. I confirm that, as you wrote, I found in the USA a very strong help, at any level, without which this technology could never arrive to the point it arrived so far, even if I must add that the results from the TIP report and the 1 MW operation could be positive, as well as negative.
    Also: the US team is preparing with Chinese scientists an important R&D operation that will help the industrialization of our devices: LAVOLALE, LAVOLALE!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  840. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I believe the “onion” question referred not necessarily to power output but to individual module operating temperature range. For example, the initial eCat might operate over a reduced temperature range, the next one a higher range and the last eCat over a narrow but high temperature regime. Can you answer the following?

    1. Does the control and the stability of the eCat reactor depend on the average temperature the reactor is running at?
    2. Does the control and stability of the eCat reactor improve if the operating range is narrower than the full temperature range of the entire system (i.e., room temperature to say, 1000 degC)?
    3. Does control and stability improve going beyond the “mouse” and “cat” architecture to three, four or more modules in thermal series?

  841. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    1- yes
    2- yes
    3- no
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  842. aka

    Dear Andrea,
    You indicated that a ceramic reactor vessel was used during 2012 testing.
    I did some reading on the first independent test report that was first published in May 2012.
    The report indeed mentioned a construction having three concentric cylinders out of which two were made from ceramic materials and the cylinder holding the (Ni) powder made of AISI 310 steel.

    Let me phrase my question on using a ceramic vessel more specific:
    Would it be possible to also make the cylinder that holds the (Ni) powder holder out of ceramic material(s)?

    Sincerely,
    Aka

  843. Andrea Rossi

    Aka:
    Yes, as you can read in former reports: there is published a photo of a reactor whose external surface was in caramic.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  844. Roberto

    Dear Andrea.
    First, if it makes sense, then the manufacturability and safety and control of the system.
    Roberto

  845. Andrea Rossi

    Roberto:
    It could make sense, everything is manufacturable, safety can be assessed for any device. Costs and convenience of it all is another story and only R&D can resolve the issue.The development algorythm of any prodct from our Team is:
    1st: study and desicn of the concept
    2nd: prototype construction
    3rd: tests
    4th: decisions about the development toward manufacturing
    5th: passing the design to the manufacturing factoryfrom the laboratory
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  846. Roberto

    Dear Andrea,
    Is it realistic to think to an ECAT with an onion structure where many layers are gradually increasing the power. Start with a mouse then a cat, then a dog, then a tiger and so on…
    Roberto

  847. Andrea Rossi

    Roberto:
    This depends on which meaning you want to relate to the word “realistic”.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  848. JCRenoir

    Also: news from the TIP?

  849. Andrea Rossi

    JC Renoir:
    The Higgs interacts directly mainly with heavy particles, rarely with light particles, never with massless particles, but this leaves the possibility to the Higgs to interact indirectly with massless particles.
    Said this, one of the most probable Feynman diagram related to the formation of the Higgs boson is made by two waves that end in a circle from which exits a dashed line, wherein the 2 waves are 2 gluons which interact forming a virtual quark, represented by the circle ( the massive Top Quark, which has the heavyest flavour of quarks), which decays after about 10^-23 s into the dashed line, which represents the Higgs boson . We could say that two vibrations in the gluon field interact and generate a vibration in the quark field, which produces a vibration in the Higgs field.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  850. JCRenoir

    We read in a recent comment of yours that Higgs field makes matter: but what makes Higgs boson?

  851. Andrea Rossi

    JC Renoir:
    The news from the TIP is that the report is under reviewing. I do not think it will take a lot of time before the publication. The results, I have been told, will be important, but I do not know if in positive or negative sense.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  852. Andreas Moraitis

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    With regard to the answer you gave Koen Vandewalle: Did you refer to a single, isolated grain or a specific grain in the powder?

    Best regards,
    Andreas Moraitis

  853. Andrea Rossi

    Andreas Moraitis:
    To be more precise: I referred to the possibility to enhance the reactions in a specific area of the charge.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  854. Mark

    Andrea,
    Are you anticipating this report in late September?
    Sorry if this question has been popup

  855. Andrea Rossi

    Mark:
    I do not know the date of publication, but I expect it anytime.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  856. Anonymous

    Mr. Rossi

    I hope that you are well.

    I was wondering

    (A) if there was any update on the status of the third party test and

    (B) Whether there was anything you could tell us about possible industrialization efforts. Are you targeting current applications or negotiating with potential customers or is your focus currently on research?

    Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions

  857. Andrea Rossi

    Anonymous:
    Your message got lost in the spam when I tried to publish it, I do not know why, but here is your question, that I remember perfectly, and the related answer:
    You asked: ” What were the Professors of the TIP allowed to?”
    Answer: in the report will be described the protocol. I cannot anticipate this information.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  858. silvio caggia

    @Vladimir Guglinski
    By the way…
    Which is your model interpretation of Wheeler’s delayed choice experiment?
    Thanks in advance

  859. Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Andrea,
    1. Can we expect that it will be possible to initiate one single Rossi-Effect-reaction on the time you want it to occur and on the place you choose, e.g: one specific nickel “grain” ?
    2. Can it, if former is positive, be managed to generate a predefined amount of excess energy ?
    I mean scientifically, not commercially profitable or exploitable.
    3. Is this part of your R&D ?
    thought full greetings
    Koen

  860. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    1- yes
    2- yes
    3- yes
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  861. aka

    Dear Andrea,

    Ignoring the minor side effect of atomic transmutations, would the “Rossi-effect” be feasible in a ceramic reactor vessel?

    Sincerely,
    Aka

  862. Andrea Rossi

    Aka:
    Yes, we did it and also published the report of a test in 2012.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  863. Giovanni

    Dear Andrea
    Today on the Italian Radio there was a debate about the various sources of energy. Somebody said that accordinga data collected in 150 years, every new source of energy to pass from 1-2% of the total market to about 50% needs 50-60 years. Do you think that the same will apply to LENR and E-Cat? Hard to say, right?

  864. Andrea Rossi

    Giovanni:
    I think that what they said ( as you report) is an unsustainable generalization. Every specific source has its particular application limits we have to make a distinction of. About us, I have not the data necessary to make that kind of forecast.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  865. Andrea Rossi

    Pietro F.:
    Thak you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  866. Roberto

    Dear Andrea,
    As you say, the third party report can be positiv or negative, but what can you say instead of 1 meg plant that you gave to an industry, have you had any feedback from them? Is it performing well? Are theme pleased or disappointed?
    Roberto

  867. Andrea Rossi

    Roberto:
    When we will be allowed to give information regarding the operation of the 1 MW plant we will publish the available data. Now is too soon to talk about it, we still are in a preliminary phase.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  868. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in September 5th, 2014 at 1:27 AM

    Wladimir,

    Space and time are not of the physical world. That does not mean that the physical world does not exist. The physical world is not constrained by space and time. But our view of the physical world IS constrained by space and time since they are mental objects. Results of an experiment are therefore independent of our view of it.
    ========================================

    Joe,
    therefore from such viewpoint the sharpness of the entangled image in the detector in the Gabriela Lemos experiment cannot change if she changes the angles between the beams of entangled photons.
    Such assumption can be tested in her experiment.

    regards
    wlad

  869. georgehants

    Dear Mr Rossi, with your discovery of the Rossi Effect, are you aware of any other new science that may come from that discovery.
    Can you see the Rossi Effect as just the beginning of a whole new area of science.
    Best wishes

  870. Andrea Rossi

    Georgehants:
    Too soon to say. So far we are focused on the product we are making.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  871. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear Andrea.
    I’m sorry, in all this circus of NDA, commercial interests, 3rd Party Report, I’m lost.
    According to what can be inferred to date, is the Rossi effect real or not?
    Nuclear Regards,
    Giuliano Bettini.

  872. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    NDA, commercial interests and 3rd Party Report are normal issues in a serious technological innovation.
    I repeat that we need to wait the results of the work on course before confirming if our work needs corrections or if it is on the right trail.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  873. Joe

    Wladimir,

    One last thought:

    QM is right about the existence of instantaneity.
    QM is wrong about the existence of QE.

    QM says that neither of two entangled particles can be fully described without considering the other. The problem with that scenario is that it is illogical. A particle is a particle because it contains all its properties without doubt. A particle is defined by the presence of all of its properties. There could never be any actual uncertainty in the property of a particle lest that particle cease to exist altogether.

    All the best,
    Joe

  874. Joe

    Wladimir,

    Space and time are not of the physical world. That does not mean that the physical world does not exist. The physical world is not constrained by space and time. But our view of the physical world IS constrained by space and time since they are mental objects. Results of an experiment are therefore independent of our view of it.

    All the best,
    Joe

  875. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    I’m sorry to hear of the loss of your powder preparer. It sounds like his contribution was very important.

    Do you find the powder prepared by the new process is inferior, equal, or superior to the manually prepared powder?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  876. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    The quality is equal, but, obviously, in view of an industrial production the manufacturing system cannot be manual. The stage our powders preparer was involved in was a prototypical phase, when you have to be ready to change anytime the formula, depending on the experiments. Industrialization is a different thing, but without the first stage you cannot reach the second one. You couldn’t have a hen shouldn’t you have an egg before.

  877. Wladimir Guglinski

    silvio caggia wrote in September 4th, 2014 at 4:08 PM

    @Vladimir Guglinski

    1) =================================
    Sorry but I am a little confused from your answers… You say that Alain Aspect’s experiments require no kind of communication because the entangled properties of the two photons are “predefined” at photon emission and travel with the photons as hidden variables (i.e. Distance between particles)… But you say that Gabriela’s experiment requires a sort of communication when photon C is absorbed by the cat trasmitting something to photon D…
    Why do you give different explanations of the two experiments? Should not entanglement logic be universal?
    ====================================

    Simple.
    Because Alain Aspect does not require entanglement when we consider the photon formed by particle and antiparticle, with the distance “d” between them equal in the case of twin brother photons.

    Unlike, there is no way to explain Gabriela’ experiment without to consider some sort of entanglement, which mechanism we need to discover.

    2) ====================================
    Anyway, you seem to accept that Gabriela’s experiment implies that D photon “is aware” of C photon destiny, and that this “awareness” cannot be explained with “hidden variables” but needs a kind of communication from C photon (when hits the cat) to D photon (when hits the detector) and you are looking for a phisical explanation.
    =======================================

    Yes,
    but photon D does not hit the detector (pay attention that the image in the detector is black, which means that photon D does not hit the detector).

    So, there are two possibilities:

    a) the trajectory of the photon D is deviated due to the collapese of the entanglement, and that’s why it does not hit the detector. (this hipothesis can be tested,putting detectors along the trajectory of the photon D.

    b) the photon D collapses, because ot the collapse of the entanglement, and that’s why it does not hit the detector.

    3) ===================================
    According to Cramer’s Transactional Interpretation of QM the life of two entangled photons is a sort of “bank transaction” that is closed THRU the time of their travel till they are both absorbed, so C photon “destiny info” flows BACKWARD in time till the entanglement source and is disponible to D photon at ANY time of its life. In other words the two photons have got agreements with their FUTURE absorbers in order that all conservation laws will be respected. But one of the weirdest prediction of this theory is that the cat image is obtained even if D arm is shorter then C arm… In other words you should be able to see the cat photo BEFORE you put the cat! Now Gabriela can validate/falsify this teory very simply.
    ========================================

    Such interpretation is based on the concepts of Quantum Mechanics, and as I dont believe QM is correct, I dont think his interpretation can be correct

    regards
    wlad

  878. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in September 2nd, 2014 at 11:34 PM

    ———————————————
    But time (and space) is a mental object, not physical.
    ———————————————

    Dear Joe
    you did not answer my question:

    what happens if Gabriela puts a video so that to film the experiment, and no person will see it.

    Later she and her staff will see the video, so that to see if the entanglement image of the cat was formed in the detector.

    In this case there is not any “mental” object in the experiment

    What do you think happens?

    regards
    wlad

  879. silvio caggia

    @Vladimir Guglinski
    Sorry but I am a little confused from your answers… You say that Alain Aspect’s experiments require no kind of communication because the entangled properties of the two photons are “predefined” at photon emission and travel with the photons as hidden variables (i.e. Distance between particles)… But you say that Gabriela’s experiment requires a sort of communication when photon C is absorbed by the cat trasmitting something to photon D…
    Why do you give different explanations of the two experiments? Should not entanglement logic be universal?
    Anyway, you seem to accept that Gabriela’s experiment implies that D photon “is aware” of C photon destiny, and that this “awareness” cannot be explained with “hidden variables” but needs a kind of communication from C photon (when hits the cat) to D photon (when hits the detector) and you are looking for a phisical explanation.
    According to Cramer’s Transactional Interpretation of QM the life of two entangled photons is a sort of “bank transaction” that is closed THRU the time of their travel till they are both absorbed, so C photon “destiny info” flows BACKWARD in time till the entanglement source and is disponible to D photon at ANY time of its life. In other words the two photons have got agreements with their FUTURE absorbers in order that all conservation laws will be respected. But one of the weirdest prediction of this theory is that the cat image is obtained even if D arm is shorter then C arm… In other words you should be able to see the cat photo BEFORE you put the cat! Now Gabriela can validate/falsify this teory very simply.

  880. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in September 4th, 2014 at 3:45 AM

    There can never be experimental evidence since time and space are nonphysical. In fact, by logic, the onus is on scientists to produce evidence for their new claim that time and space are physical objects – something that they have never done.
    ===============================================

    That’s why I would love if Gabriela decides to perform the experiments suggested by me, in order to verify if , by changing the angles of interaction between the beams of photons, the sharpness of the entangled image in the detector is changed.

    If the sharpness changes, it implies that QE is interaction of fields

    regards
    wlad

  881. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    In the early days of this blog you mentioned that you employed a 95 year-old man to prepare the nickel powder that you use in your E-cats.

    Is your powder still prepared manually, or have you developed newer techniques?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  882. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Yes, you are right: that old master of mine is returned in God’s Spirit, but after his teaching we have industrialized the powders production.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  883. Carlo Marcena

    Hi,
    I do not see any input dated after Sept 1st.
    Is there any change in the address?
    Regards,
    CM

  884. Andrea Rossi

    Carlo Marcena:
    Probably you have problems with your computer, because since September 1st many comments have been published.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  885. Wladimir Guglinski

    silvio caggia wrote in September 3rd, 2014 at 3:23 PM

    @Wladimir Guglinski

    1) ========================================
    What I don’t understand is how your model explains the way Gabriela obtained the cat’s photo without using cat’s side photons.
    ===========================================

    Caling photon C that which hits the cat, and photon D that which hits the detector, I think in two possibilities:

    a) when the photon C hits the cat (and therefore it collapses), as the entanglement is broken the photon D becomes instable, and collapses, and it does not hit the detector.

    b) when the photon C hits the cat (and therefore it collapses), as the entanglement is broken there is a deviation in the trajectory of the photon D, and it does hit the detector.
    Such hypothesis can be tested, putting detectors along the trajectory of the photon D.

    2) ======================================
    By the way, how your model explains circular polarization?
    ========================================

    It can be explained by considering that when the photon is polarized, the particle ahead the photon’s motion has an increase in the radius R of the helical trajectory of that particle. So, in spite of the velocity of rotation stays the same, however the angular velocity W of the particle becomes lower than the angular velocity of the antiparticle.
    The electric field vector will take the form as shown in the figure:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_polarization

    regards
    wlad

  886. KD

    >>>>>Mario on September 4th, 2014 at 4:44 AM wrote.
    Think about it: imagine a huge pool heated by the hot-cat with many people taking a bath the opening day (April is still cold in Italy )
    What a wonderful world!
    -mario<<<<<<

    And invite the Kardashian sisters to swim in the pool.
    This will bring attention of all the population of the world.

    But for sure, the critics still will say.
    Of course the water is hot because the girls are hot.:)

  887. Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi, I know you want to develop an E-Cat to supply electricity for a home.
    In a location like Ft. Lauderdale, we have very little need for heat. when
    needed we get it from our AC unit.
    But in a State up North, where the temperature is sometimes below zero,
    the need for heat is enormous.
    Will you develop an E-Cat to produce heat for a home ?
    Will you develop an E-Cat to produce electricity and heat for a home ?
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA

  888. Andrea Rossi

    Robert Curto:
    The E-Cat is a heat generator, therefore it is simpler to produce heat . With heat it will be possible to make also electric power.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  889. Mario

    Dear Andrea,
    I cannot contribute to the technical discussion because phisics is out of my knowledge.
    But I’m a dreamer.. Actually, with the TPR2 coming and the first plant reaching the production site, I’m moving my mind to tomorrow..
    Next year, as you probably know, there will be the Universal Exposition in Italy, Expo 2015 in Milan.
    Just imagine an Hot-cat running at the Expo.. it would be like the Eiffel Tower for the Paris expo.. something unforgettable!!
    An occasion for million of people to see your invention from really close.. and without any doubt the way for you to get all the attention your invention deserves.
    Think about it: imagine a huge pool heated by the hot-cat with many people taking a bath the opening day (April is till cold in Italy :-) )
    What a wonderful world!
    -mario

  890. Andrea Rossi

    Mario:
    Thank you for the suggestion.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  891. Joe

    Wladimir,

    1. You wrote,
    “Therefore, the flux of magnetons within the strings of gravitons of the gravitational field can work by resonance.”

    I have already explained how gravitational fields in the Universe are present everywhere, interacting with your potential gravitational strings and thereby destroying any possibility for the existence of QE within the framework of QRT. But now the same holds true for your potential magnetic fluxes whereby magnetic fields which are present everywhere in the Universe will interact with those potential magnetic fluxes and thereby destroy any possibility for the existence of QE within the framework of QRT.

    2. You wrote,
    “Actually, Quantum Mechanics is wrong, because there is not a physical model of photon in the theory.”

    Even if your theory about the polarization of photons is correct, the reality is that ALL properties, not just polarization, are subject to QE.

    3. You wrote,
    “There is not experimental evidence for such assumption [...]”

    There can never be experimental evidence since time and space are nonphysical. In fact, by logic, the onus is on scientists to produce evidence for their new claim that time and space are physical objects – something that they have never done.

    All the best,
    Joe

  892. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in September 2nd, 2014 at 11:34 PM

    Wladimir,
    1) =======================================
    1. Gravity works independently of
    i) any potential frequency that it might have;
    ii) the speed of the source (particle) of that gravitational field.
    ===========================================

    COMMENT
    I am not speaking about gravity.
    I am refering to the gravitational field.

    The gravitational field in QRT is formed by strings of gravitons crossed by a flux of magnetons, as shown in the Fig. 2.5 of the paper Aether Structure for unification between gravity and electromagnetism:
    http://peswiki.com/index.php/Image:FIGURE_2.5%3D_flux_of_magnetons_within_string_of_gravitons.png

    The resonance can be caused by the flux of magnetons

    .

    2) ==========================================
    (That is why the gravitational field of the Earth pulls everything down independently of its nature or motion.)
    =============================================

    This is concerning the gravitational attraction, due to the strings of gravitons.
    However the motion of a photon can have influence in the flux of magnetons within the strings of gravitons

    .

    3) ========================================
    Therefore, it is unacceptable to claim that QE within the framework of QRT works by
    i) resonance;
    ii) two (or more) particles sharing a common speed,
    respectively.
    ============================================

    Therefore, the flux of magnetons within the strings of gravitons of the gravitational field can work by resonance

    .

    4) =========================================
    2. Your concept of a cause for QE is wrong. The concept of cause and effect is a temporal (and spatial) one obviously.
    ============================================

    No.
    Actually Quantum Mechanics is wrong, because there is not a physical model of photon in the theory.

    There is a distance “d” between the particle and antiparticle of the photon, and the polarization depends on this distance “d” (a process of resonance between “d” and the atomic distance within the crystal used for polarization)

    A photon A and B can have the same wavelenght, but with different values of the distance “d”.
    So,
    when they are polarized, in spite of they have the same wavelength, however their polarization follow statistical laws.

    Unlike, two twin broter photons (as produced in Gabriela’s experiment) have the same distance “d”, and therefore whe you measure their polarization you get the same value.

    Therefore,
    considering two entangled twin photons, if you measure polarization of the first photon here in the Earth, and I measure the polarization of the second photon in the Moon, I will get the same value of polarization measured by you, because the two photons have the same distance “d”, and not because the photon measured by me in the Moon was affected by your measurement of the first photon in the Earth.

    Such misunderstanding of the Alain Aspect experiment is the reason why you and the quantum theorists believe that The concept of cause and effect is a temporal in QE.
    ======================================

    .

    5) =====================================
    But time (and space) is a mental object, not physical.
    ========================================

    There is not experimental evicende for such assumption, by considering physical phenomena ruled by the laws of Physics.

    Such assumption is consequence of the wrong interpretation of the Alain Aspect experiment
    =============================================

    .

    6) ==========================================
    So QE lacking cause and effect (atemporality, aspatiality) demonstrates the physical nature of QE which is unadorned by time (and space).
    =============================================

    There is NOT entanglement in the Alain Aspect experiment, as I already had explained.
    The reason why the two twin photons exhibit the same polarization is due to the same distance “d” between the particle and antiparticle in the both photons.

    The entanglement occurs only in the Gabriela Lemos

    .

    7) ====================================
    Schrodinger was right in considering the instantaneous phenomenon of QE the only true separator of quantum mechanics (QM) from classical mechanics (CM).
    =======================================

    As I said, there is no entanblement in the Alain Aspect experiment.
    The polarization of the second twin photon measured in the Moon is NOT affected by the measurement of the polarization of the first twin photon here in the Earth.

    So, the reason why in the Moon the measurement gets the same value is due to the property of the two twin photons: the have the same distance “d”.
    The phenomenon is NOT instantaneous, since there is not any phenomenon caused by the quantum entanglement between the two photons.

    We even dont know if the entanglement detected by Gabrela Lemos can be obtained by having the cat here in the Earth and the detector in the Moon.
    Perhaps her experiment works only in short distances.

    regards
    wlad

    All the best,
    Joe

  893. silvio caggia

    @Wladimir Guglinski
    I knew your model of photon and its interesting explanation of linear polarization and entanglement by a sort of “hidden variable” (the offset between the two particles that make the photon). What I don’t understand is how your model explains the way Gabriela obtained the cat’s photo without using cat’s side photons.
    By the way, how your model explains circular polarization?
    Regards

  894. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Thank you, the work of Prof. Stephen Hawking is extremely interesting.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  895. Wladimir Guglinski

    Silvio,
    in another words:

    when Gabriela produces two twin brother photons in her experiment, she eliminates the statistical feature of the two photons. They have the same distance “d”, and so they will have the same behavior when somebody measures their polarization.

    This is waht the quantum theorists do not know.

    If you measure here in the Earth the polarization of the first photon and you get 60º, then if Joe goes to the Moon and he measures the polarization of the second photon he will get 60º too, because the two photons have the same distance “d”, and not because when you measuered the polarizaton of the first photon it had affected the polarization of the photon measured by Joe.

    That’s why Joe and the quantum theorists believe that “fields can not be responsible for QE since their range is indefinite and would therefore interact immediately with any other fields in their vicinity, making the reality of QE impossible for even a moment”

    regards
    wlad

  896. Edward

    try to combine Enshten theory and law of Keeps saved weight.(E=mc2). mass disappears and becomes energy. add to the several paradoxes and you get a black hole. Do you believe in it ?

  897. Andrea Rossi

    Edward:
    I do not understand what you want to say. Can you rephrase clearly?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  898. Wladimir Guglinski

    silvio caggia wrote in September 2nd, 2014 at 7:15 PM

    @Wladimir Guglinsky
    Does the correlation between two entangled photons depend from the lenght of the two arms of the experimental setup?
    Does the correlation depend from the order in which you take measurements?
    Does entanglement “vanish” when first photon is measured?
    Why entangled photons should behave in asymmetric way respect to time?
    ====================================

    Silvio,
    entanglement is a link between two photons.

    There are two aspects:

    1) If one photon has collision with matter (and so it calllapses), the other collapses too. Accordding to Quantum Mechanics, it does not occur via physical causes, and it is instantaneous.

    2) If we take a measure of one photon, the other is affected (according to Quantum Mechanics)

    .

    Let us analyse the two aspects:

    1)
    Regarding the first aspect, I am not agree that the second photon collapses via phantasmagoric way, and instantaneously.
    There are not experiments comproving that it is instantaneous.

    Also, as enfphasized by Mr. Joe, according to Quantum Mechanics:
    fields can not be responsible for QE since their range is indefinite and would therefore interact immediately with any other fields in their vicinity, making the reality of QE impossible for even a moment
    There is not experimental confirmation for such assumption

    .

    2)
    According to Quantum Mechanics, when you take a measure of the polarization of one of the photons, the second photon instantaneously takes the same polarity.

    In my book Quantum Ring Theory I show that such interpretation is wrong.

    The origin of the misunderstanding is because there is not, in Theoretical Physics, a physical model of the photon.

    Einstein and Dirac supposed be impossible to exist a physical model of the photon, because the photons have statistical behavior.

    However, in my model of the photon there is a distance “d” between the particle and the antiparticle. The statistical feature of the photon behavior is due to such distance “d”, because when the photon hits a polarizator, the angle of polarization depends on the distance “d”.
    So, when a photon is created, you cannot predict how it will be behave when is submitted to polarization.

    Therefore, when two twin photon brothers are criated as happens in Gabriela’s experiment, the quantum theorists believe that the two entangled photons have each one a random angle of polarization.
    But such assumption is wrong, because as they are twin brothers, the distance “d” in the two photons is the same.
    Therefore, if you take a measure in one of the photons, and the polarization gets 45º, when the other photon will be measured it will have also 45º, because their distance “d” is the same.

    But the quantum theorists suppposed that, when the two twin photons were created, one could hava a polarization for instance 60º, while the second had 30º. And when the first photon had been measured for 45º (and so its polarization changed from 60º to 45º), the second photon also changes its polarization, from 30º to 45º.

    This is not true. Because as you are using a polarizator 45º, the both photons will be polarized in the same way, because their distance “d” is the same.

    So,
    if you use a polarizator 30º, both the two photons will be polarized by 30º
    if you use a polarizator 45º, both them will be polarized by 45º
    if you use a polarizator 60º, both them will be polarized by 60º

    The two photons always exhibit the same angle of polarization because their distance “d” is the same, and not because the second photon is affected by the measurement of the first photon due to their entanglement, as believe the quantum theorists.

    regards
    wlad

  899. Joe

    Wladimir,

    1. Gravity works independently of
    i) any potential frequency that it might have;
    ii) the speed of the source (particle) of that gravitational field.

    (That is why the gravitational field of the Earth pulls everything down independently of its nature or motion.)

    Therefore, it is unacceptable to claim that QE within the framework of QRT works by
    i) resonance;
    ii) two (or more) particles sharing a common speed,
    respectively.

    2. Your concept of a cause for QE is wrong. The concept of cause and effect is a temporal (and spatial) one obviously. But time (and space) is a mental object, not physical. So QE lacking cause and effect (atemporality, aspatiality) demonstrates the physical nature of QE which is unadorned by time (and space). Schrodinger was right in considering the instantaneous phenomenon of QE the only true separator of quantum mechanics (QM) from classical mechanics (CM).

    All the best,
    Joe

  900. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in September 2nd, 2014 at 4:33 PM

    Wladimir,

    And do you believe that their gravitational fields would not be affected by any of the myriad of gravitational fields that exist between them in the Universe? Because if they would be affected, then your scenario is impossible since any change to their fields would collapse them immediately.
    ======================================

    Joe,
    consider also another fact:

    the two entangled photons move with the speed of the light.

    Therefore, in order to afect their gravitational field (in a say similar to the interaction which occurs between the two entangled photons), only the gravitational field of other photon can affect their entanglement (because other photon also moves with the speed of the light).

    The gravitational field of other elementary particles as protons, electrons, neutrons, etc. do not affect the entanglement, because protons and electrons do not move with the speed of light.

    But only a third photon with the exact wavelength of the two entangled photons would be able to affect their gravitational fields.

    regards
    wlad

  901. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in September 2nd, 2014 at 4:33 PM

    Wladimir,

    And do you believe that their gravitational fields would not be affected by any of the myriad of gravitational fields that exist between them in the Universe? Because if they would be affected, then your scenario is impossible since any change to their fields would collapse them immediately.
    ==========================================

    For the gravitational field of each of the entangled photons to be affected there would be neeed a gravitational field of another photon in the same exact wavelenght of the two entangled photons.
    It’s an interaction by resonance.
    Actually we dont know how such resonance affects the field of repulsive gravitons within the body of the photon, responsible for its statility.

    Perhaps you may claim that it is hard to believe in such sort of entanglement mechanism.

    However in my oppinion it is harder to believe that entanglemnt occurs via phantasmagoric way, with no any physical cause.

    regards
    wlad

    regards
    wlad

  902. silvio caggia

    @Wladimir Guglinsky
    Does the correlation between two entangled photons depend from the lenght of the two arms of the experimental setup?
    Does the correlation depend from the order in which you take measurements?
    Does entanglement “vanish” when first photon is measured?
    Why entangled photons should behave in asymmetric way respect to time?

  903. Joe

    Wladimir,

    You wrote,
    “So, two photons in two opposite points of the extreme of the universe can interact via their gravity fields.”

    And do you believe that their gravitational fields would not be affected by any of the myriad of gravitational fields that exist between them in the Universe? Because if they would be affected, then your scenario is impossible since any change to their fields would collapse them immediately.

    The bottom line is this: fields can not be responsible for QE since their range is indefinite and would therefore interact immediately with any other fields in their vicinity, making the reality of QE impossible for even a moment.

    All the best,
    Joe

  904. Wladimir Guglinski

    A POSSIBLE PHYSICAL MECHANISM FOR THE ENTANGLEMENT

    Joe wrote in September 1st, 2014 at 5:05 PM

    Wladimir,

    But since the particles remain entangled for an indefinite amount of time, the idea that fields are responsible for QE can be safely eliminated.
    ==========================================

    Dear Joe,
    I discovered that it is possible to have entanglement via interaction of fields for an indefinite amount of time, by considering my model of the photon.
    Let me explain it to you.

    In my paper Aether Structure for unification between gravity and electromagnetism it is proposed the structure of field of the elementary particles, including the photon.
    The figure 2.5 ahead shows one gravity string of the gravity field of the particles. The body of the gravitons in those strings is crossed by a flux of magnetons with speed c of light:
    http://peswiki.com/index.php/Image:FIGURE_2.5%3D_flux_of_magnetons_within_string_of_gravitons.png

    The magnetons are captured in the perimeter of the universe, and it means that the lenght of the gravity field of an elementary particle goes from its body until the limit of the universe. So, two photons in two opposite points of the extreme of the universe can interact via their gravity fields.

    The mechanism of the photon collapse due to entanglement
    Now let us see how one photon collapses when its twin photon is collapsed due to an collision with matter.

    According to the photon model proposed in Quantum Ring Theory, a photon is formed by particle and antiparticle moving in circular contrary direction about the line center of their helical trajectory.

    As the particle and the antiparticle have contrary electric charge, they would have to meet together, and the photon would have to collapse.

    However the photon does not collapse because repulsive gravitons avoid the particle and the antiparticle to meet together. So, the repulsive gravitons avoid the collapse of the photon.

    When two twin photons are formed (as for instance in the Gabriela Lemos experiment), they interact very easy via their gravity field, because as they are twin brother they resonate very easily.

    So, two twin photons brothers move in the aether having entanglement between their gravity field, which means that the stability of each of them depends on that entanglement.

    When one of the twin brothers collapses hitting some surface of matter, the entanglement is broken. So, because the resonance with his brother was broken, a disturbance occurs in the field of the repulsive gravitons responsible for the stability of the photon. Due to the disturbance, the particle an the antiparticle succeed to meet together, and the photon collapses.

    Joe,
    as we may realize, from such mechanism for the entanglement, the Quantum Ring Theory becomes compatible with Quantum Mechanics, from the consideration that the entanglement occurs via interaction of fields.

    regards
    wlad

  905. Eric Ashworth

    Regards ideas pertaining to space and time. My understanding is that space represents a distance and time is a duration. Therefore, to bring both into a concept of actuality, surely a physical body is required to travel a distance over a duration of time. However, I do not believe in empty space because of the aether and its activity. Therefore, technically there may exist two contradictory states or two types of nature. One whereby space and time exist and one whereby space and time do not exist. Just a thought. Regards, Eric Ashworth.

  906. JCRenoir

    Dr Andrea Rossi,
    another question: are quarks stable or virtual particles?
    JCR

  907. Andrea Rossi

    JCRenoir:
    1- gravitational field: the symmetries responsible for the force are changes of positions and changes in orientation in four dimensional spacetime
    2- strong interactions field: the symmetry relates to the colors ( red, green, or blue) of the quarks, wherein colors are different quantic status of the same parton: it does not matter if we describe a quark as red, blue or green or any combination of these colors, therefore it is a simmetry
    3- electromagnetic field: particles with electric charges come in matched pairs, one with a positive charge, one with a negative charge, because to get a charged particle is necessary to have two fields that can rotate into each other under the gauge symmetry of electromagnetism. A single field can’t be charged , since there’s nothing for the symmetry to act on ( This reminds me the dialectic between slave and lord in the Phenomenology of the Spirit of Hegel).
    4- weak interactions field: we are talking of the W and Z bosons; they are connection fields born out of an underlying symmetry of nature masked by the Higgs field. The Higgs breaks the symmetry on which W and Z bosons are based and once that symmetry is broken these bosons lose their ” masslessness”.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  908. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in September 1st, 2014 at 5:05 PM

    Wladimir,

    But since the particles remain entangled for an indefinite amount of time, the idea that fields are responsible for QE can be safely eliminated.
    All the best,
    Joe
    ===================================================

    Joe,
    such assumption is what the quantum theorists claim.

    But never any experiment had confirmed it.

    Now, if Gabriela decides to perform the experiments suggested by me, from the results we will be able to know if the entanglement is caused either by the interaction of fields or not.

    So, I prefer to wait the results of the experiments.

    In my last comment, I said to you:

    ====================================================
    Joe,
    concerning the experiment made by Gabriela,
    I suspect the following:

    when the two beams of photons go along the SAME LINE, and moving in CONTRARY direction, NO image due to the entanglement will be formed in the detector.

    I suppose it because when the interaction between the fields of the two photons is broken (because the first photon is annihilated when it hits the cat), the second photon will not deviate its trajectory (because the two photons were moving along the same line).
    As there is no deviation in the trajectory of the second photon, it will continue its motion and it hits the detector. And therefore the black image is not formed in the detector
    ==============================================

    regards
    wlad

  909. Wladimir Guglinski

    silvio caggia wrote in September 1st, 2014 at 5:39 PM

    @Wladimir Gusglinski

    What happens if “output” arm is much shorter than “input” arm?
    Some think that entanglement vanish, but others, like John Cramer, think that something very conuterintuitive happens: retrocausality, you see the cat before you put it!
    ============================================

    COMMENT
    Let’s call C the photon which hits the cat, and D the photon which hits the detector.

    The photon D hits the detector before the photon C hits the cat.
    Due to the collision with the detector, the photon D vanishes. As the entanglement is broken, the photon C deviates its trajectory (or is vanished), and so the photon C does not hit the cat.

    Therefore is not formed the real image of the cat, and it is not formed the image due to entanglemnt in the detector.

    regards
    wlad

  910. Wladimir Guglinski

    silvio caggia wrote in September 1st, 2014 at 5:39 PM

    @Wladimir Gusglinski

    What happens if “output” arm is much shorter than “input” arm?
    Some think that entanglement vanish, but others, like John Cramer, think that something very conuterintuitive happens: retrocausality, you see the cat before you put it!
    ============================================

    COMMENT
    Let’s call C the photon which hits the cat, and D the photon which hits the detector.

    The photon D hits the detector before the photon C hits the cat.
    Due to the collision with the detector, the photon D vanishes. As the entanglement is broken, the photon C deviates its trajectory (or is vanished), and so the photon C does not hit the cat.

    Therefore is not formed the real image of the cat, and it is not formed the image due to entanglemnt in the detector.

    regards
    wlad

  911. JCRenoir

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    I read with great interest your explication about Symmetry. Can you explain which are the Symmetries responsible for the 4 foundamental forces?
    JCRenoir

  912. Andrea Rossi

    JCRenoir:
    Quarks can be stable, but there are also virtual quarks. Valence quarks in protons and neutrons are stable, but in protons and neutrons there are also virtual particles like gluons and quark-antiquark pairs: in this case quarks are virtual. Note that in a proton we have always 2 up quarks more than the antiup and one down quark more than the antidown, while in the neutron we have always two down more than the antidown and one up more than the antiup.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  913. Steven N. Karels

    dear Andrea Rossi,

    You posted “No, the efficiency remains the same during the 6 months of scheduled operation”. You also stated that the eCat under test for the TIR ran continuously for thousands of hours. So I must conclude that the operational performance was long-term stable and was nominally outputting a constant power level. I know that you mentioned the input and output were monitored every second and millions of data points were collected. So a six month continuous run would produce over 15 million data points with sampling at a one Hertz rate. Given these facts and derived knowledge, what should we look for in the TIR report.

    1. Energy Density: Given the net output (output minus the input) energy and the size or weight of the eCat, we should expect a bound on the energy density. A bound because the TIR team may not know the fuel size and volume, so they would have to use the eCat reactor size and volume.
    2. Likewise for power density.
    3. Operating conditions (room temperature? Type and amount of input power). Experiment description and rules.
    4. Detected radiation (or lack thereof).
    5. Output stability — a Fourier Transform of the recorded data , input and output would be interesting.
    6. Any change in weight/mass hopefully would be presented.
    7. Change in physical appearance or dis-coloration.
    8. Pre and post experiment fuel composition (if allowed under the experiment rules)

  914. Joe

    Claudio,

    Albert Einstein once gave the example of the new versus the old paradigm of time and space. In the old paradigm, when you removed matter and energy from the Universe, time and space would be left behind. In the new paradigm, when you remove matter and energy from the Universe, time and space follow. The reason for this is that time and space are now considered an integral part of the physical Universe. The problem with this example is that it is illogical. And since logic undergirds science, this example is also unscientific. Therefore, the new paradigm can not be true.

    So how is it illogical?
    When all four species (matter, energy, time, space) are removed from the Universe, there must necessarily be left behind a Universe that acts as a receptacle from which these four species were removed. But this Universe must exist in time and space for it to exist at all in order to extricate the four species. But then we are left with two sets of time and space: one that can be removed, and one that can not be removed. This is contradictory. But Nature is not contradictory, else Nature would not exist.
    So one set of time and space must necessarily be false.

    So which is the false set of time and space?
    If the set that was removed is false, then the new paradigm is obviously false, and time and space are determined to be the mental objects that they have always been considered throughout most of human history.
    If the set that was removed is true, then no Universe could be left behind, which would render this example given by Einstein as logically impossible. And being so, the new paradigm that this example purports to illumine is likewise logically impossible. Consequently, time and space can not be physical objects. Therefore, they are mental ones.
    As we can see in either case, time and space are mental objects, not physical.

    All the best,
    Joe

  915. Hank Mills

    http://www.rsc.org/Education/EiC/issues/2007Sept/ConductingComposites.asp

    This article reminds me of the tubercules on the surface of the nickel powder in the E-Cat.

    “Lussey, working in collaboration with Bloor, discovered that the nanoscale spikes on the surface of the nickel particles in his composite are key to its unique conducting properties. By gently mixing the materials by hand, he had limited shear forces during mixing and so maintained the particles spiky shape. Although packed close together, the nickel particles always remain separated by the silicone polymer even when the material is deformed. Electronic charge on the particles is concentrated onto the tips of the spikes on the surface, which generates high charge densities. When the composite is deformed the particles are brought close enough together for electrons from these areas of high charge density to ‘jump’ from one particle to another other. This process is known as quantum tunnelling.”

    It makes me wonder what is more important in the E-Cat, the tips of the spikes where high levels of charge can accumilate and create conditions favorable for quantum tunneling, or the cracks between the spikes.

    Just letting my mind wander for a bit. I’m hoping the upcoming E-Cat report will be posted soon.

  916. silvio caggia

    @Wladimir Gusglinski
    Sorry but I don’t understand your warning about istantaneous/simultaneous.
    If the two arms of the esperimental setup have the same lenght you have simultaneity, if the “output” arm is much longer than “input” arm, photons that make the picture arrive to detectors later than photons that hit the cat.
    What happens if “output” arm is much shorter than “input” arm?
    Some think that entanglement vanish, but others, like John Cramer, think that something very conuterintuitive happens: retrocausality, you see the cat before you put it!
    Now we can check if the results of Transactional Interpretation predictions are positive or negative :-)

  917. Joe

    Wladimir,

    In my last post, I gave you the temporal reason why fields can never explain QE. Now, let me give you the spatial reason. Two particles separated by space will always have various media between them in real world situations. Whatever field connections these two particles had initially with each other could never be maintained since they would be interacting with their local environments as well as with each other. And remember how QE is destroyed: by particles interacting with their environment (which includes acts of measurement). But since the particles remain entangled for an indefinite amount of time, the idea that fields are responsible for QE can be safely eliminated.

    All the best,
    Joe

  918. Joe

    Silvio,

    Although I do not fully understand the technical aspects of the experiment, I agree with Wladimir that you are probably confusing the concept of instantaneity with that of simultaneity. The former seems magical. But the latter is mundane, which is why I doubt that we will get something as extraordinary as a time machine from it.

    All the best,
    Joe

  919. Andrea Rossi

    To the Readers:
    Today has been published on the JoNP the paper “Black hole cosmos and micro cosmos” by the Indian nuclear Physicists Prof. U.V.S Seshavatharam and Prof. S. Lakshminarayana.
    JoNP

  920. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Thank you and a great Labor Day to you
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  921. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    I hope you are spending your Labor Day holiday doing something you enjoy. Let’s hope the exponential anxiety levels at Industrial Heat do not spoil the holiday!

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  922. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    I am celebrating just working.
    I wish a wonderful Labor Day to all our US Readers
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  923. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe,
    concerning the experiment made by Gabriela,
    I suspect the following:

    when the two beams of photons go along the SAME LINE, and moving in CONTRARY direction, NO image due to the entanglement will be formed in the detector.

    I suppose it because when the interaction between the fields of the two photons is broken (because the first photon is annihilated when it hits the cat), the second photon will not deviate its trajectory (because the two photons were moving along the same line).
    As there is no deviation in the trajectory of the second photon, it will continue its motion and it hits the detector. And therefore the black image is not formed in the detector

    regards
    wlad

  924. claudio

    Joe – Referring to space & time what does it mean “mental object”? How can you distinguish mental from NON mental? And which are the means (or evidences) you rely on to state this? Thanks. Claudio

  925. Wladimir Guglinski

    A second suggestion sent to DR. Gabriela Barreto Lemos:

    From: wladimirguglinski@hotmail.com
    To: gabriela.barreto.lemos@univie.ac.at
    Subject: RE: a structure of space for explaining the ENTANGLEMENT
    Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 11:08:15 -0300

    Dear Dr. Grabriela

    I think it is of interest to compare the image produced by the entanglement in the following conditions:

    1) The two beams of photons go along two parallel lines

    2) The two beams of photons go along two orthogonal lines

    3) The two beams of photons go along two lines having 130º

    Other very much interesting experiment is the following:

    == The two beams of photons go along the SAME LINE, but moving in CONTRARY DIRECTION.

    In the case the experiments get to detect a difference in the sharpness of the image produced by the entanglement in those different conditions of the direction of the two beams, this imply that the entanglement must be due to the interaction of some sort of field of the photons.

    When the photons are moving, their fields have interaction. But when the first photon hits the real image of the cat and therefore it is annihilated, the interaction between their fields is broken, and the second photon suffers a deviation in the direction of its trajectory (because the interaction was broken), and so the second photon does not arrive to the detector, because its trajectory changed its direction. As consequence, as the photon does not hit the detector, then a black image is formed in the detector.

    regards
    wlad

  926. Joseph Fine

    AR,

    Happy Labor Day,

    After you and your teams’ many hours, days, weeks, months and years of hard work, in the near future, I hope the Third Party Independent Report will arise and shine on a bright new day.

    Joseph Fine

  927. Wladimir Guglinski

    silvio caggia wrote in September 1st, 2014 at 1:20 AM
    @Joe
    @Wladimir Guglinski
    I have not well understood the experimental setup of Gabriela Barreto Lemos, can you correct me?
    She has a laser beam L that is splitted in two beams L1 and L2, L1 is then splitted by a non linear cristal NLC1 in two entangled beams L1a and L1b, while L2 is splitted by a non linear cristal NLC2 in two entangled beams L2a and L2b. L1b and L2b show an “output” (interference or not) according to the “input” that L1a and L2a interfere or are blocked by something put between them. Is this resume correct?
    You say that “output” at Lxb occurs istantaneously with “input” at Lxa, but this is due to the fact that the two arms of the experimental setup have the same lenght. What happens if Lxb arm is shorter than Lxa arm? The “output” will precede temporally the “input” realizing a sort of time-machine! :-)
    John Cramer tried this for many years without success, If Gabriela succeded the most interesting thing to inspect with this experiment is the real nature of Time.
    Regards
    ===============================

    Dear Silvio
    you are making confusion between INSTANTANEOUS and SIMULTANEOUS

    According to Quantum Mechanics, the entanglement is INSTANTANEOUS

    According to QM, you can put one detector here in the Earth, and the other in the Moon, but the image of the entanglement in the Moon will be produced simulteneously with the image produced in the Earth, because the entanglement is INSTANTENOUS (according to QM).

    regards
    wlad

  928. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in August 31st, 2014 at 9:24 PM

    Wladimir,

    But quantum entanglement (QE)occurs INSTANTANEOUSLY. The reason why neither standard physics nor QRT can explain QE is because they depend on the concept of field which implies a lapse of time rather than instantaneity.

    All the best,
    Joe
    ===========================================

    COMMENT
    Dear Joe,
    this is the INTERPRETATION of the quantum theorists for the entanglement, according to the principles of the Quantum Mechanics.
    To consider it as instantaneous is consequence of the Interpretation of Copenhagen.

    Actually we dont know if it really is instantaneous, because in the experiments the distance between the detectors is very short, and there is no way to verify if it occurs instanteneously, or not.

    A new experiment published by Nature in 31 July 2014 already had shown that it is wrong the Interpretation of Copenhagen:
    “To Bohr and others, the process was instantaneous – when you opened the box, the entangled system collapsed into a definite, classical state. This postulate stirred debate in quantum mechanics, But real-time tracking of a quantum system shows that it’s a continuous process, and that we can constantly extract information from the system as it goes from quantum to classical. This level of detail was never considered accessible by the original founders of quantum theory.”
    http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/2014/07/30/watching-schrodingers-cat-die/

    .

    I dont believe entanglement is intantaneous.

    I think the entanglement occurs via interaction between the gravity fields of the twins photons.

    As any theoretical controversy must be decided via experiments, this is the reason why in my oppinion more experiments must be performed, in order to help us to discover how entanglement occurs.

    regards
    wlad

  929. Wladimir Guglinski

    SECOND REPLY BY DR. GABRIELA BARRETO LEMOS

    From: gabriela.barreto.lemos@univie.ac.at
    Subject: Re: a structure of space for explaining the ENTANGLEMENT
    Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 09:49:03 +0200
    To: wladimirguglinski@hotmail.com

    Hello Mr Guglinski

    Thank you for your suggestion. I will discuss it with my co-workers when they all return from their holidays

    Best regards.
    Gabriela

    .

    On Aug 30, 2014, at 1:22 PM, Wladimir wrote:

    Dear Dr. Gabriela Barreto Lemos

    I think it would be of interest to repeat your experiment by changing the angles of incidence of the two twins photons when they hit the two detectors (by putting the two detectors with several different angles one regarding the other, in order to verify how the relative different angles between the two detectors can influence in the formation of the image produced by the entanglement).

    I hope by this way we may try to understand the physical laws that rule the entanglement.

    The reason why I suppose it is explained in the comment of mine published in the Rossi’s blog Journal of Nuclear Physics:
    http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=853#comments

  930. silvio caggia

    @Joe
    @Wladimir Guglinski
    I have not well understood the experimental setup of Gabriela Barreto Lemos, can you correct me?
    She has a laser beam L that is splitted in two beams L1 and L2, L1 is then splitted by a non linear cristal NLC1 in two entangled beams L1a and L1b, while L2 is splitted by a non linear cristal NLC2 in two entangled beams L2a and L2b. L1b and L2b show an “output” (interference or not) according to the “input” that L1a and L2a interfere or are blocked by something put between them. Is this resume correct?
    You say that “output” at Lxb occurs istantaneously with “input” at Lxa, but this is due to the fact that the two arms of the experimental setup have the same lenght. What happens if Lxb arm is shorter than Lxa arm? The “output” will precede temporally the “input” realizing a sort of time-machine! :-)
    John Cramer tried this for many years without success, If Gabriela succeded the most interesting thing to inspect with this experiment is the real nature of Time.
    Regards

  931. Joe

    Wladimir,

    Communication of information occurs by way of waves traveling in a field. And the concept of travel implies the concept of speed. And the concept of speed implies a lapse of time between two points in space. But quantum entanglement (QE)occurs INSTANTANEOUSLY. The reason why neither standard physics nor QRT can explain QE is because they depend on the concept of field which implies a lapse of time rather than instantaneity.

    All the best,
    Joe

  932. Rafal Krych

    Dear Andrea,

    This is Appeal of Polish intellectuals to the citizens and governments of Europe. We need your E-Cat ever more then before in order to cease dependence on Russian gas.

    Good luck then and please keep saving this world.

  933. Andrea Rossi

    Rafal Krych:
    All I can do is to perform honestly my work together with my great Team in our limited field of application. World can be saved only by Mankind ( which means persons like you) with the help of God.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  934. Italo R.

    Dear Dr. Rossi,
    the TPR2 has lasted about 6 months, and has been made only on one reactor. There were other two of them as spares, but they haven’t been used, there hasn’t been no need to use and test them.
    The writing of its report is lasting for long, very long time.

    I mean: for me, the result surely will be very very exciting.

    Kind Regards,
    Italo R.

  935. Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.:
    I spent today working all the day.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  936. Wladimir Guglinski

    From: gabriela.barreto.lemos@univie.ac.at
    Subject: Re: a structure of space for explaining the ENTANGLEMENT
    Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 11:44:11 +0200
    To: wladimirguglinski@hotmail.com

    Thank you for your email. I will look into this proposal. Best Regards

    .

    On Aug 30, 2014, at 1:22 PM, Wladimir wrote:

    Dear Dr. Gabriela Barreto Lemos

    I think it would be of interest to repeat your experiment by changing the angles of incidence of the two twins photons when they hit the two detectors (by putting the two detectors with several different angles one regarding the other, in order to verify how the relative different angles between the two detectors can influence in the formation of the image produced by the entanglement).

    I hope by this way we may try to understand the physical laws that rule the entanglement.

    The reason why I suppose it is explained in the comment of mine published in the blog Journal of Nuclear Physics:
    http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=853#comments

  937. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in August 30th, 2014 at 9:53 PM

    Wladimir,

    1- =========================================
    There is no mystery to quantum entanglement when you remember what I mentioned a while back about the nature of space and time. Space and time are not physical objects but mental ones.
    =============================================

    COMMENT:
    I am not agree.

    Joe,
    I also believe in the power of the mind, because several experiments in the field of Biology already had proved it.

    However, the power of the mind has no influence in the results of experiments where the Laws of Physics prevail.

    You are assuming that Gabriela and her team were accompanying the experience all the time, and so the their minds were influencing the occurrence of the entanglement.

    But suppose that Gabriele repeats the experiment as follows:

    1- The team puts a video camera filming what happens in the detectors

    2- They go away, leaving the experiment to run without any mental influence

    Do you think that, in this case, will the entanglement do not occur?

    2- ===================================
    a change in one entangled particle will produce an inverse change in its partner.
    ======================================

    COMMENT

    I want just to discover how the entanglement occurs, and I think it is caused by the interaction between the two gravity fields of the twins photons A and B.

    That’s why I suppose that the relative angle between the detectors has influence in the formation of the image caused by the entanglement, because the angle between the detectors changes the angle between the paths of two photons.

    Suppose Gabriele makes two experiments:

    a) the photon A and B have perpendicular paths.
    b) the photon A and B have parallel paths

    The interaction between the two gravity fields will be different in the situation a) and b). And we have to discover if such difference has influence in the formation of the image caused by the entanglement

    regards
    wlad

  938. RicT

    Dear. Dr. Rossi

    What’s Your “feeling” about TPRII?

    1) positive
    2) negative
    3) prosecco For the Team
    4) Champagne free For anyone!!!

    As human beings, after all, we have feeling – that may be wrong or right….

    Thank you

  939. Andrea Rossi

    RicT:
    By nature I am an optimist guy, but, as a professional, I must maintain a neutral equilibrium.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  940. H-G Branzell

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    For the commercial E-Cats you have promised a COP of around 6. If if turns out that the independent third party has found that the COP is less than 5, will you then call the result negative?
    Best regards, H-G Branzell

  941. Andrea Rossi

    H-G Branzell:
    Good question.
    Under a scientific point of view, based on the First Principle of Thermodynamic, the COP of an apparatus that generates heat with chemical reactions MUST be <1. Therefore, under a scientific point of view, any COP>1 should be considered a positive result.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  942. M.B.

    Dear Dr. Rossi,

    Let me share one thing that has always puzzled me. In your references about the third independent party report you’ve never failed to stress that a negative result in it cannot be ruled out. A negative result, as far as I understand, will mean that the E-CAT reactor does not work the way it is supposed to. On the other hand, you are getting ready to open a 1MW plant which will use E-CAT reactors.

    Isn’t there a logical inconsistency here? How can E-CAT’s be used in industrial applications if the 3rd party report, which is supposed to be the final word about the functionality of these devices, eventually comes out negative?

    Kindest regards,
    M.B.

  943. Andrea Rossi

    M.B.:
    There is no inconsistency: also the results of the 1 MW plant operating in the factory of the Customer of IH could be, after a long operation time, positive, but also negative.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  944. Mark

    Hi Andrea, 1 or 2?

    1,The test report will be available freely to the general public

    2, The test report will be available at a cost through some commercial means to the general public

  945. Andrea Rossi

    Mark:
    1, of course !!!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  946. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    I still don’t understand why the TPR2 report is so important to you. You have already established the basis of the industrial complex necessary to introduce and manufacture your devices. There is field testing established which will confirm the quality of the devices and their usefulness. These results are what will allow your work to be continued and distributed, not the results of the report. Also, you claim that the theory of the Rossi effect is well known to your group so any speculation by the investigators can only be conformation which has no real value to you. Having this report as a backup is useful only to allow you to say “I told you so”, and you don’t need that in my opinion. Perhaps the institutions that are funding the report work need their own confirmation to convince their owners to further fund their own efforts in this area of technology, but your establishment does not. The only other value I can imagine is the possibility that they may uncover some technology which may be useful to you. A long shot in my opinion since you have much more device experience than them.
    I am saving my anxiety for the results of the plant installation, which I thing will, after a few bumps, prove your system is a genuine advancement.
    Regards and good luck!

  947. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    This was necessary.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  948. Joe

    Wladimir,

    There is no mystery to quantum entanglement when you remember what I mentioned a while back about the nature of space and time. Space and time are not physical objects but mental ones. True physical reality is beyond space and time, therefore it is not constrained by space and time. And since by logic, conservation must always be upheld, a change in one entangled particle will produce an inverse change in its partner. And this happens immediately and independently of the distance between them because time and space are of no consequence as I mentioned.

    All the best,
    Joe

  949. Andrea Rossi

    Jouni Toumela:
    Thank you for your information regarding heat exchangers.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  950. Jouni Tuomela

    Dear Mr. Andrea Rossi,

    Now thinking again, I am quite sure you already knew all this, but still the makings of the heat-exchanger is facinating. Perhaps relaxing also, you surely need that also.

    Br Jouni

  951. Jouni Tuomela

    Dear Mr. Andrea Rossi,

    Mr. Steven N. Karels brought silver nanoparticles to my attention, thank you, they are facinating.

    Also the thermal properties of nanoparticle fluids are interesting. Please use 10 minutes of your studying-time to watch this highly interesting video about the theory of nano-fluids aswell as the makings of a micron-sized(?) heat exchanger.

    Youtube-videos are highly valuable in learning.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y04W53ihLXk

    Warmer Regards, and all the best,
    Jouni Tuomela

  952. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I know you cannot discuss the inner workings of your eCat reactor. But more than likely you have an adhesive that holds the nickel powder to the inside of the external cylinder so that energy may be transferred when the eCat is reacting. That assumed, it is important to keep a high thermal conductivity of whatever material secures the nickel to the heat transfer elements, i.e., the external cylinder. Increasing the thermal conductivity of the material that secures the nickel is important in a couple of ways.

    1. It keeps the nickel from melting and therefore loosing what ever surface preparation has been done to make it work.
    2. It will allow a higher external cylinder surface temperature at the heat transfer area to occur which could affect Carnot efficiency.

    My estimates based on some assumptions and some simple calculations indicate that the difference between a moderate thermal conductivity and a good thermal conductivity might result in a temperature difference of 100 Celsius. Perhaps you may wish to consider this? Adding a conductive material like silver nanoparticles might significantly increase the thermal conductivity.

  953. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    I cannot give information about this issue.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  954. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    At this time I presume you and your team have been operating the factory unit for a lengthy time(more than a month). Have you run into unexpected bugs(problems)? If so, have they been eliminated? In my experience with many startups,there have been problems(mostly minor) with all of them. Expect them and you will not be disappointed.
    Bona Fortuna!!!

  955. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    The work of the Third Independent Party is the first long term test made upon a LENR device in the last 25 years. The results will be the results that for the first time in the history of the LENR will be released by a third independent party after a test not of hours, but of thousands of hours, without interruptions and without intervention of the inventor or the owner. The results could be positive or negative, as I always said.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  956. Giuliano Bettini

    “just say”: I mean: please stop to say…

  957. Angel Blume

    Dear Mr. Rossi

    I am getting confused with your last replies.
    I entirely agree with Mr. Janhunen to the possible reaction scenario. Being all isotopes from Cu59 to Cu62 long lived enough (minutes / hours), it is factible to detect the positronic radiation. Moreover the ratio Ni60/Ni62 before and after gives a clue of what is happening inside the reactor.
    Without revealing your catalyst, not breaking your NDagreements, I think you could be more explicit. As I see, some posters are well qualified to help you on foreseeing the effects regarding radiation from reactor, because I understand that your mayor concern now is safety.

    From last posters I learned that we can preorder domestic E-Cats. How much do they cost? How can I preorder a single unit?

    Thanks in advance and good luck.

    Angel

  958. Andrea Rossi

    Angel Blume:
    I cannot supply further information about the mechanism of the E-Cat. We now know it well, and it is strictly bound to the issues covered, as you correctly say, by the NDA and the defense of the IP.
    We do not have safety concerns, since safety certification has been obtained for our industrial E-Cat after the reactors have been properly designed and all the measurements made OUTSIDE the E-Cat have confirmed its safety also in terms of ionizing radiations. We have experts of the matter working with us, who are physicists from laboratories specialized in measurements of ionizing radiations.
    About the domestic E-Cat, any commercial information is impossible until a safety certification is obtained for it: as I explained many times, there is a paramount difference between the certification of industrial plants, operated by certified technicians, and domestic appliances, operated by persons that are not even supposed to read the manuals. The price of the domestic E-Cat will be computed after we will know exactly the requirements estabilished during the certification process, besides other issues.
    Pre-orders are just a waiting list, with no engagement at all, with no money deposited. We cannot accept money until the product is really for sale.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  959. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear Steven,
    you are right, I agree (obviously).
    However, IMO the matter is too important, it’s time to give an answer. The Americans went to the moon, so just say “yes, oh well, who knows, may be, perhaps, boh, it is too difficult …..”.
    I repeat: I hope that the professors give a definitive answer.
    My best Regards,
    Giuliano Bettini.

  960. Pietro F.

    Buongiorno ing. Rossi,
    1) su cento attivazioni dell’ecat quante riescono?
    2) riguardo alla prima domanda c’é stata una progressione significativa negli ultimi tre anni?
    3) su cento ecat attivati quanti mantengono una stabilità ragionevolmente utilizzabile ai fini commerciali?

    Se puo’…!

    comunque la ringrazio e buon lavoro

    (by google translate):
    Hello ing. Rossi,
    1) on one hundred of ecat activations ecat how they do it?
    2) With regard to the first question there was a significant progression in the last three years?
    3) on one hundred of those ECAT activated how maintain a stable reasonably usable for commercial purposes?

    If you can …!

    anyway thank you and good job

    Pietro F.

  961. Andrea Rossi

    Pietro F.:
    I will answer to your questions after:
    1- the publication of the TIPR
    2- our publication of the performance data of the 1 MW plant in operation in the factory of the Customer
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  962. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Just like in an American jury trial, the fast verdict is usually guilty when the evidence is overwhelming. If the TIR scientists saw results where the amount of output energy was less than or equal to the input energy, the report would be negative and it could be quickly released. So the seemingly long release time for the TIR to me says the results will most likely be very positive. But as in any trial, we must wait for the verdict before congratulations are in order.

  963. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    We have to wait and be patient. Obviously the anxiety is getting exponential.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  964. Wladimir Guglinski

    From: wladimirguglinski@hotmail.com
    To: vcq@quantum.at
    Subject: a structure of space for explaining the ENTANGLEMENT
    Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 08:13:07 -0300

    Dear Dr. Gabriela Barreto Lemos

    I think it would be of interest to repeat your experiment by changing the angles of incidence of the two twins photons when they hit the two detectors (by putting the two detectors with several different angles one regarding the other, in order to verify how the relative different angles between the two detectors can influence in the formation of the image produced by the entanglement).

    I hope by this way we may try to understand the physical laws that rule the entanglement.

    The reason why I suppose it is explained in the comment of mine published in the Rossi’s blog Journal of Nuclear Physics:
    http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=853#comments

    ============================================
    Wladimir Guglinski
    August 29th, 2014 at 7:32 PM
    How does the quantum entanglement works?
    I used do not believe in the existence of the quantum entanglement. In my book Quantum Ring Theory, by considering my model of the photon, I had proposed a new interpretation for the Alain Aspect experiment, without the need of considering the entanglement.

    But a new experiment published in the journal Nature does not allow any doubt on its existence:
    Quantum imaging with undetected photons
    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v512/n7515/full/nature13586.html
    The experiment was made under the lead of Gabriela Barreto Lemos, a Brazilian physicist.

    So, the entanglement exists, and we have to try to understand what is physical mechanism underlying its occurrence.

    It is obvious that, for the understanding of such physical mechanism, we need to try to understand the entanglement by considering a physical structure of the aether.

    Another experiment which is dealing with the structure of the aether is being made in the Fermilab:
    http://astro.fnal.gov/projects/OtherInitiatives/holometer_project.html

    The structure of the aether is proposed in Quantum Ring Theory.
    But the best aspect of the structure of the aether proposed in QRT is the fact that such structure is connected to the structures of the electron, the proton, the neutrino, the photon, and the nucleus.
    Therefore, the structure of the aether proposed in QRT is not a lonely theory, actually it is a theory connected to structures of the elementary stable particles of the universe, and this is the best aspect of the theory.

    According to the photon model of QRT, the photon is composed by a particle and its antiparticle moving in helical trajectory.

    In the experiment made by Gabriela, when the photon is broken in two parts, the particle takes a direction, and the antiparticle takes another direction.
    However, in the instant when the photon is broken, the lonely particle captures a new antiparticle from the aether, and the antiparticle captures a new particle either, in orther that two twins photons A and B are formed.

    The question is: how does occur the entanglement between the twins photons A and B?

    In the paper Aether Structure for unification between gravity and electromagnetism, submitted for publication in the Journal of Nuclear Physics, it is proposed a string of gravitons (of the elementary particles as the electron and the proton) captures magnetons in the perimeter of the universe (the most far away limit of the universe), as we see in the Figure 2.5 of the paper, ahead:
    http://peswiki.com/index.php/Image:FIGURE_2.5%3D_flux_of_magnetons_within_string_of_gravitons.png

    The question now is to discover how the gravity strings of the photon A gets entanglement with the gravity strings of the photon B in the experiment made by Gabriela.

    In another words:
    What are the laws of Physics underlying the entanglement via the structure of the aether?
    It’s an exciting chalenge.

    .

    Dear Joe
    when my paper will be published in the Journal of Nuclear Physics, I would like to talk about the question with you, here in the Comments of the JoNP.
    regards
    wlad
    ============================================

    .

    Thanks to your attention
    Wladimir Guglinski

  965. Steven N. Karels

    Giuliano Bettini,

    You posted — I’m quite amazed by the statement “..the transmutation of Ni (…) has still to be confirmed.” In other LENR experiments transmutation have been reported at the atomic level. But for AR to report transmutation of a secondary (not primary) reaction would be very difficult. The amount of copper that might be produced could be much less than one milligram of mass, depending on how secondary the reaction was. So distinguishing it from contamination could be difficult.

    Nuclear reactions produce so much energy compared to chemical reactions that not a lot of byproducts are produced. To prove a nickel-to-copper relationship, one way might be to determine the fuel contents before initial operation, then examine the same fuel distributed in different eCat reactors run at one month, two months, … to six months and measure the copper in each fuel sample. And to be able to show a relationship with energy produced versus copper produced. But measuring milligram or microgram levels of any material can be very challenging.

  966. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear A.R.
    I’m quite amazed by the statement “..the transmutation of Ni (…) has still to be confirmed.”
    You must admit: after 25 years, the transmutation which “has still to be confirmed” feeds the skepticism, at least with regard to the cold fusion. In my naivety, I would say: “If there is Copper, there is Copper. However, if there is no Copper, it means that there is no Copper. Full stop.”
    Where is the problem? Extremely sophisticated measurements? Unexpected difficulties?
    Where am I wrong? I hope that at least the Professors give a definitive answer.
    Giuliano Bettini.

  967. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    When I say that the results of the Third independent Party could be positive, but also negative, I do not joke. That is the reality. Our work is under examination and under R&D and we honestly have the duty to say that the results of the examination could be negative.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  968. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    I think the data from the next TIPR will give information about the energy density issue after a long operation period.
    Thank you for your attention,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  969. Wladimir Guglinski

    How does the quantum entanglement works?

    I used do not believe in the existence of the quantum entanglement. In my book Quantum Ring Theory, by considering my model of the photon, I had proposed a new interpretation for the Alain Aspect experiment, without the need of considering the entanglement.

    But a new experiment published in the journal Nature does not allow any doubt on its existence:
    Quantum imaging with undetected photons
    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v512/n7515/full/nature13586.html

    The experiment was made under the lead of Gabriela Barreto Lemos, a Brazilian physicist.

    So, the entanglement exists, and we have to try to understand what is physical mechanism underlying its occurrence.

    It is obvious that, for the understanding of such physical mechanism, we need to try to understand the entanglement by considering a physical structure of the aether.

    Another experiment which is dealing with the structure of the aether is being made in the Fermilab:
    http://astro.fnal.gov/projects/OtherInitiatives/holometer_project.html

    The structure of the aether is proposed in Quantum Ring Theory.
    But the best aspect of the structure of the aether proposed in QRT is the fact that such structure is connected to the structures of the electron, the proton, the neutrino, the photon, and the nucleus.

    Therefore, the structure of the aether proposed in QRT is not a lonely theory, actually it is a theory connected to structures of the elementary stable particles of the universe, and this is the best aspect of the theory.

    According to the photon model of QRT, the photon is composed by a particle and its antiparticle moving in helical trajectory.

    In the experiment made by Gabriela, when the photon is broken in two parts, the particle takes a direction, and the antiparticle takes another direction.
    However, in the instant when the photon is broken, the lonely particle captures a new antiparticle from the aether, and the antiparticle captures a new particle either, in orther that two twins photons A and B are formed.

    The question is: how does occur the entanglement between the twins photons A and B?

    In the paper Aether Structure for unification between gravity and electromagnetism, submitted for publication in the Journal of Nuclear Physics, it is proposed a string of gravitons (of the elementary particles as the electron and the proton) captures magnetons in the perimeter of the universe (the most far away limit of the universe), as we see in the Figure 2.5 of the paper, ahead:

    http://peswiki.com/index.php/Image:FIGURE_2.5%3D_flux_of_magnetons_within_string_of_gravitons.png

    The question now is to discover how the gravity strings of the photon A gets entanglement with the gravity strings of the photon B in the experiment made by Gabriela.
    In another words:
    What are the laws of Physics underlying the entanglement via the structure of the aether?

    It’s an exciting chalenge.

    .

    Dear Joe

    when my paper will be published in the Journal of Nuclear Physics, I would like to talk about the question with you, here in the Comments of the JoNP.

    regards
    wlad

  970. Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi,

    If the High Temperature E-Cat produced its design power (nearly) continuously for an entire year, or about 8,765.76 hours, then its Energy Density (Wh/kg) should be about (8765.76/116) = 75 times the Energy Density reported in the May 2013 Arxiv paper.

    I don’t remember the May 2013 Energy Density, but a factor of 75 is significant. Of course, if it ran for only six months per charge, the Energy Density multiplying factor is ‘only’ about 38 times as large.

    Still good.

    Energetic regards,

    Joseph Fine

  971. Martyn Aubrey

    Dear Dr Rossi,

    Whilst I understand that the domestic E-Cat will not be available until it is certified (which may take some time), what form would the construction take?

    1. A single reactor.

    2. A smaller version of the Cat & Mouse two reactor configuration.

    3. Something else.

    4. Not decided yet.

    Also, would the domestic E-Cat be purely electrically powered, purely gas powered, either, or both?

    Kind Regards,

    Martyn Aubrey.

  972. Andrea Rossi

    Martyn Aubrey:
    2.
    It will be either electrically or gas powered, we think.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  973. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    You had mentioned previously, I think, that the conversion of hydrogen plus nickel into copper was a secondary reaction regarding thermal energy generation. Now, apparently, you are suggesting that 62Ni production occurs and can possibly enhance the eCat efficiency. Are these statements in conflict?

    1. Can you clarify?
    2, Can you define what you mean by eCat efficiency? Improved effective COP? Something else?

  974. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    1- There is not a conflict, the transmutation of Ni remains a secondary effect that, by the way, has still to be confirmed.
    2- Efficiency is not just COP, is a more wide concept encompassing many other characteristics, like stability, reliability, duration etc. All these issues are in evolution.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  975. Wladimir Guglinski

    Dear Curiosone

    the nonsenses of Mr. JR make us to remember those said by Simplicius in Galileo’s Dialogue:

    http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/Extras/Galileo_Dialogue.html

    So,
    we realize that people never change.
    Simplicius tried to save the wrong Aristotle’s concepts. And Mr. JR is trying to save the flawed concepts of current Nuclear Physics.

    Changes the scenery of human theatrical comedy, but the characters are always the same.

    regards
    wlad

  976. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Your pre-order is in our records, as well as all the pre-orders we received, but I must say that we cannot foresee when the domestic E-Cats will be put in the market.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  977. Alan DeAngelis

    Dear Pekka Janhunen,

    I think the chemistry sets things up for the sort of reactions you’re proposing.
    If there are no gamma rays or neutrons, I think that the chemistry would set it up for the following nuclear reactions. Nickel hydride absorbs a proton to become cuprous hydride in an excited state. Cuprous hydride absorbs its proton to become zinc in an excited state. Zinc in an excited state, fissions into nickel (with two fewer neutrons) and helium.

    NiH2 >CuH*>Zn*> Ni + He

    For example:
    H(1) + Ni(62) > Cu(63)* Step1
    H(1) + Cu(63)* > Ni(60) + He(4) Step 2
    ________________________
    Over all
    2 H(1) + Ni(62) > Ni(60) + He(4) 9.87 MeV

    For example:
    H(1) + Ni(64) > Cu(65)* Step1
    H(1) + Cu(65)* > Ni(62) + He(4) Step 2
    ________________________
    Over all
    2 H(1) + Ni(64) > Ni(62) + He(4) 11.8 MeV

    And other isotopes:
    2 H(1) + Ni(N) > Ni(N-2) + He(4)

  978. Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in August 28th, 2014 at 4:55 PM

    Argon:
    Your pre-order, as all the pre-orders for domestic E-Cats, will be satisfied as soon as we will obtain the safety certification for the domestic E-Cat.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    ======================================

    Dear Andrea,
    please dont forget my pre-order of 1.000 domestic E-Cats.

    regards
    wlad

  979. Argon

    Dear Andrea! Many months ago, i deliver to pre-order yours small domestics LENR heater . Wanted to show students. Many papers descriptions of experiments can never replace training laboratory work. It is clear that the students can not afford commercially megawatt LENR system for 2 million dollars. Please suggest a simple version of the demonstration non-chemical power in the NI-H systems for students range tens-hundred watt power. Or do you think it premature and inappropriate to inform young people about the actual running LENR?