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  1. Dan C.

    Dear Mr. Rossi,

    As to desalination, most think of the boiling or flash steam process. From their point of view, the E-cat would be cheaper. They are unaware of the magnitude of the effects that mineral scaling have on the water vessel. This requires continuous labor intensive maintenance, so while using E-cats would make this process cheaper, it is still an expensive process. A Reverse Osmosis filtering system will eliminate many of these associated problems.

    I would point out that with R.O. filtration systems, an electric E-cat would still contribute in significant cost reduction. The electricity used for ionizing the filters, UV sterilization treatment, and pumps to name the obvious.

    The less obvious would be when the E-cat, both electric and heat processes are integrated into the manufacturing sector, the products used in building Desalination plants will be cheaper.
    There’s more than one way to skin a cat. “Skin as in Utilize”

    Regards,
    Dan C.

  2. Andrea Rossi

    Dan C.:
    The fact that when and if we will be able to sell electric power producing E-Cats will make cheaper electricity is true and, in this case, convenience should be generalized, but the desalination made by steam is not competitive with the reverse osmosis by an order of magnitude.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  3. Steven N. Karels

    Dave Lafleur,

    This topic has been discussed before so I will summarize what I believe are the issues. To boil water at room pressure takes a large amount of energy.

    India has demonstrated a prototype program using the relatively warm ocean seawater and evaporating it by pumping it into a reduced pressure (partial vacuum) chamber that is cooled by ocean water brought up by pumps from the relatively cold ocean depths. So perhaps eCat technology could generate the electricity to do this. This would be a continuous operation at a constant power so eCat would be ideally suited for this purpose.

    In other ocean locations where this might not work, reverse osmosis techniques are more energy efficient than boiling the sea water. Again, eCat could provide the electricity needed.

    ECat waste heat would also assist the effort.

    Your suggest is correct. It is just that there are more efficient ways of doing this.

  4. Andrea Rossi

    Herb Gills:
    Brian Ahern is one of the few scientists in the LENR field that I think is making something that can have success. Said this, I must add that:
    1- I cannot discuss issues that would force me to disclose information that is still confidential.
    2- in principle, I respect the opinion of Dr Ahern, but I disagree, on the base of experiments we made with the E-Cats and the Hot Cats
    3- I wish good luck to this competitor of ours
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  5. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Useful information, as usually happens when you send a comment. As a matter of fact this treatment is very competitive and my opinion is that the E-Cat is not competitive for the desalination.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  6. Dear Mr. Rossi,

    This fascinating YouTube interview gives some possible explanations as to how your reactor works. It’s about magnetism in LENR.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_kID_E-3tY

    “Dr. Brian Ahern: Nanomagnetism, Cooperative Modes, & Non-Linear LENR”

    All the best, Christopher Calder

  7. Andrea Rossi

    Christopher Calder:
    Interesting opinion, but I think differently, based on my experiments. The work of Brian Ahern is interesting, though.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  8. Joseph Fine

    AR, Dave Lafleur,

    Here is a web resource on desalination and also of desalination filter membranes made out of graphene sheets. You can find further information on this website on a variety of subjects related to desalination.

    http://www.desalination.com

    http://www.desalination.com/wdr/50/9/graphene-membrane-technology-update

    Fresh regards,

    Joseph Fine

  9. Herb Gillis

    Dr. Rossi:
    Brian Ahern has expressed the opinion that LENR is not a nuclear phenomenon but instead an electromagnetic one. If that is true it raises the question of what the ultimate source of the observed excess energy might be. It clearly cannot be chemical, if your observations and the “third party test” results are accurate. Ahern said in a recent interview that the source may be some kind of vacuum energy (or the so-called “zero-point” energy of the vacuum). Do you think he might be right? If so; are there any limits to how much usable energy could be extracted from such a strange source?
    Kind regards; HRG.

  10. Dave Lafleur

    AR,
    I would think that desalination would be an easy application of your technology, as all that is needed is boiling water and a condenser- and your low cost energy to make it practical.

    To make a quantum leap, pardon the pun, could you irrigate the deserts? Could you turn the Sinai Desert into an oasis instead of a war torn wasteland?

  11. Andrea Rossi

    Dave Lafleur:
    I have no idea. I am not an expert of desalination, but costs of desalination are already very low, as far as I know: experts in past analyzed the possibility to desalinate with the E-Cat, but it turned out not to be competitive.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  12. DTravchenko

    To complete my comment: if yes, are you glad if I try to put you in contact with the right persons in Russia?
    D.T.

  13. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    Answer to both comments: yes, I think we can do it with profit. Of course we are interested to this issue.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  14. Rafal Krych

    Dear Andrea,

    This is why humanity needs home e-Cats so badly: How a solar storm two years ago nearly caused a catastrophe on Earth.

    Best wishes and keep up with good work with ending the “Fossil Fuels Age”!
    Rafal

  15. Andrea Rossi

    Rafal Krych:
    We are working…
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  16. Rafal Krych

    Dear Andrea,

    This is why humanity needs home e-Cats so badly: .

    Best wishes and keep up with good work with ending the “Fossil Fuels Age”!
    Rafal

  17. Curiosone

    Do you continue to study physics, or now you just make your experiments and manufacturing?
    W.G.

  18. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    The answer is yes. It is the foundamental of LENR.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  19. Curiosone

    Dr Rossi:
    Are you still convinced that the “lattice” theory of Norman Cook is right?
    Thank you for your answer,
    W.G.

  20. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    I have ordered to myself to study and update myself on Physics at least 2 hours per day, rain or shine.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  21. DTravchenko

    Dr Rossi:
    You think your Hot Cats could be useful to retrofit partially nuclear plants?
    Warm Regards,
    D.T.

  22. Italo R.

    “… we, the Team….”
    and that reminds me “We, The People of E-Cat” :-)

    Kind Regards,
    Italo R.

  23. Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.:
    Yes, you are absolutely right. The People of the E-Cat are extremely important . It maintains us constantly under a positive pressure. I am very disappointed not to be able to give information about the TIP-R2, of which I know nothing, and also for the 1 MW plant, about which we will give information only after a period of consolidation of the operation. That’s why now we talk of the rumors of Harley Davidsons. By the way, I read that many fans of this motorcycles are angry about the electric Harley, since its characteristic noise is an iconic heritage of these ouvres d’art. Anyway, it will not take long before we will have to talk about specific things.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  24. Paul

    Andrea,

    In regards to: “Nobody is indispensable.”

    If you change the paint, you change the painting.

    Paul

  25. Andrea Rossi

    Paul:
    …and this give further evidence that no paint is indispensable.
    I really hope, and I am sure that, the Team of Industrial Heat has in me a good, but not indispensable, player. Their organization will overcome my subjective shortcomings.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    p.s.: 1 a.m. of Thursday July 24th, and we are working: we, the Team.

  26. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    So do you feel that if you were to step away from your work now (I do not expect this), that the team at IH would be able to continue along developing E-Cat technology very well without you?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  27. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Nobody is indispensable.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  28. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Regarding the first public 1 MW plant. As you have designed, built and tested it, do you now see ways it can be improved? Can the masterpiece be surpassed by an even better masterpiece?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  29. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    My team will be able to make better than me for sure.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  30. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Harley Davidson is now testing a prototype electric powered motorcycle. Perhaps, in the future, an eCat powered motorcycle? So many possible eCat applications and so little time to think of them all.

  31. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N Karels:
    No more brumm brumm?
    A.R.

  32. Curiosone

    I am hearing a rumor that the report of the TIP will be published in September…
    W.G.

  33. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    I am hearing the rumor of a Harley Davidson making “brumm, brumm” out of the window of my laboratory. That’s some rumor!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  34. Curiosone

    Andrea:
    I imagine you are talking with the TIP now and again: how is the sensation, good or bad?
    W.G.

  35. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    The work of the Third Independent Party does not depend on me, as I wrote repeatedly. I must ask that the discussions about the report are put on hold until it will be published. I do not know, and cannot know when it will be ready and cannot provide any better information. I understand your feeling, I am very anxious too, but we must be patient.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  36. DTravchenko

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    What do you think in general, not in particular, of all the people working in the LENR ?
    Warm Regards,
    D.T.

  37. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    Yes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  38. DTravchenko

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    In your team is also a nuclear physicist?
    Warm Regards,
    D.T.

  39. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    We find the work of our competitors to be anyway respectable and noteworthy.
    LENR as a field is rapidly pursuing cleaner and more affordable sources of energy. Making the world a better place through cleaner and more affordable energy is why we are working so hard with our R&D testing.
    This is a good thing and would be of great benefit to Society.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  40. Giovanni Guerrini

    This article was published in 1999,today it is of storical interest.

    http://www.radiocittadelcapo.it/wp-content/uploads/2-CHIMICA-E…MISTERI1.doc

    Regads G G

  41. Steven N. Karels

    Curwin,

    If eCat can use 3He AND it is economical to mine it on the moon, it would be less costly to use it rather than transporting hydrogen from the Earth. Probably hydrogen will be transported to the moon but for water unless vast quantities can be found during mining.

  42. curwin

    Steven N Karels:

    Even with the *astronomical cost of space launches, there seems to be enough energy in a kilo of H/D/Ni (or whatever) to perhaps make 3He a moot question?

  43. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Helium-3 is readily available on the Moon’s regolith. It is also commercially available, albeit rather expensive. If you could obtain a sufficient quantity, you could test it. If it proves successful, you could then patent the process. That might serve you well but, of course, patents are limited in time and we do not know when a lunar colony will be viable. Use of lunar 3He would be much more economical than transporting hydrogen to the moon.

    There was conjecture that 3He might be the fusion fuel in the near future, be mined on the moon and transported to the Earth. If eCat is successful with nickel and ordinary hydrogen, there will be no need for lunar mining for Earth’s fuel needs.

  44. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Thank you, anyway interesting as an idea. Obviously I cannot give information, in positive, or in negative, regarding the materials I use or do not use in the reactor, even if projected in the future.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  45. While we wait for the independent report, here is an exclusive radio interview with Andrea Rossi. He discusses his feelings about music, and his experience playing the drums. This appears this week’s “Tom and Doug Show” which is broadcast on WOOL-FM, KHOI-FM and other stations on the Pacifica Network.

    Here is a link to the internet version of the program:
    http://tomanddoug.com/podcasts/TDShow470.mp3

  46. Andrea Rossi

    Thomas Florek:
    Thank you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  47. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Looking to the future – do you think eCat technology could be employed on the Earth’s moon, but using 3He instead of 1H? Please let me know if the result could be positive or negative (LOL)

  48. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Honestly, I am not able to answer. Being an experimentalist, I will answer you when I will go to the moon, try it with a series of tests and I will satellite you the results, positive or negative as they might be.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  49. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    The analysis I presented was regarding what would happen if the world population increased to 10 billion AND the per capita energy consumption of everyone reached the current USA level. Other than solar or hydro, energy production uses the energy stored within the fuel (nuclear, coal, natural gas or eCat). Since eCat emits no greenhouse gases nor dangerous residuals as in nuclear power generation, eCat could replace most other fuel-based systems without adversely affecting the Earth.

  50. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Thank you for your futuristic insight,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  51. Andrea Rossi

    AlainCo:
    He,he,he…did the old expert of Los Alamos you heard of look like Peter Sellers? ( experimental observations reserve surprises).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  52. While we wait for the independent report, here is an exclusive radio interview with Andrea Rossi. He discusses his feelings about music, and his experience playing the drums. This appears this week’s “Tom and Doug Show” which is broadcast on WOOL-FM, KHOI-FM and other stations on the Pacifica Network.

    Here is a link to the internet version of the program:
    http://tomanddoug.com/podcasts/TDShow470.mp3

  53. Just a funny question (the rest is either positive or negative).

    Do you plan to build a tea kettle ? (even if it boils 10 tons of lyophilized tea)

    It seems that from old expert of Los Alamos I heard of, only a tea kettle can make them change their position.

    Scientific papers seems to have no value for most scientists. (experimental observation).

  54. georgehants

    Dear Mr. Rossi, as there is very little info coming, could you confirm that you prefer British tea to American coffee.
    I hope that is not covered by a NDA.
    Ha.
    Best wishes

  55. Andrea Rossi

    Georgehants:
    He,he,he…I prefer coffee, but after playing tennis tea is better. Obviously this is jamesbondy language to talk about the catalyzers of the E-Cat (!) dodging the NDA.
    Warm Regards,
    A.

  56. Rodney Nicholson

    Hi Andrea:

    I predict that, while the original design (your ‘Bologna model’) had many E-cat units set up ‘in parallel’, the design of the newest industrial model has multiple E-cat modules set up ‘in series’, with the coolant temperature rising step by step as it passes each unit.

    As an economist I enjoy predicting things. Of course my predictions are not always correct!

    Rodney Nicholson.

  57. Andrea Rossi

    Rodney Nicholson:
    Obviously we all have freedom of prediction!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  58. Steven N. Karels

    Sent from my iPhone

    On Jul 20, 2014, at 8:49 PM, “Steven Karels” wrote:

    Too Much Heat?

    If the world switched to eCat technology for all of its energy needs, would the planet become too warm?

    Assumptions:

    1. ECat technology used to generate electricity for all forms of energy produced (heating, cars, electrical).
    2. World population of 10 billion (10,000,000,000) people
    3. All people consume at the USA per capita level.
    4. Effective conversion efficiency is 30% (Carnot of 45% plus COP of 6)
    5. If the total man-made energy release is less than 1% of the solar insolation, then no excessive heating should be observed

    Given:
    1. The total solar energy absorbed by Earth’s atmosphere, oceans and land masses is approximately 3,850,000 exajoules (EJ) per year or 3.85 * 10^^24 Joules
    2. USA per capita energy consumption per year = 300 GJ or 3 * 10^^11 J per year per person (USA)

    Computation:
    1.0 * 10^^10 people * 3 * 10^^9 J/(year – person) = 3 * 10^^19 J per year
    Accounting for a 30% efficiency means the amount of heat released per year is 1.0 * 10^^20 J

    Therefore, since the amount of energy released, (with everyone on the planet consuming as much energy as the average American), the net increase is less than 1% of 1% of the solar insolation and excess heating should not be a problem. This, without the release of greenhouse gases.

  59. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    The heat produced from the E-Cats is in substitution, not in addition, to the average.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  60. silvio caggia

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    Reading between lines, it seems to me that the 1MW plant 001 is an evolution from the bologna container, while the TIP report is about the hot-cat cylinder module.
    This could explain why the positive or negative results of the last has no direct relation with the results of the first…
    My idea is that the goal of the last is to study the “rossi effect” by itself, while the object of the first is the industrial application of the effect…
    To make an automotive metafora: can we say hot-cat is like a “formula 1″ car while 1MW plant is like a “rally” car?

  61. Andrea Rossi

    Silvio Caggia:
    Yes, you are correct.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  62. Lata

    Hi Andrea,
    As a mother of two little kids, I must reprimand you for constantly saying results will be positive or negative. It is like showing a kid a candy wrapper. When the kid gets interested, you say candy may or may not be in there. I believe you must be a grandfather. It is not very grandfatherly for you to be teasing your followers :-)

    Regards and Good Luck,
    Lata

  63. Andrea Rossi

    Lata:
    I am sorry for your feeling, but I am not playing with candies. For what concerns the Third Independent Party report, there is nothing I can do but waiting the publication, which does not depend on me and I cannot have more information. Regarding the 1 MW plant, we cannot give any specific information before we are allowed to publish the data of its operations. We cannot risk to give data that eventually could become substantially different. Imagine you have candies you do not know what are they made with and you have to say to your children “I cannot give you these candies until I am not sure they are positive for you”.
    Thank you for your kind attention,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  64. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Photos are nice, but I would rather see test data – output versus input.

  65. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Of course. As I said, photos and data will be published when the visits will be allowed.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  66. Giuliano Bettini

    Andrea,
    georgehants says: “Come on, keep the galley happy, give us a small clue.”
    I propose, just a Selfie with the new 1 MW plant.
    All celebrities make a Selfie now. =D
    Thanks
    Giuliano Bettini

  67. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    We will publish the photos of the new 1MW plant .
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  68. georgehants

    Dear Mr. Rossi, Sherlock Holmes father Conan Doyle always knew that Sherlock had to give a few hints to the readers to keep them interested.
    Come on, keep the galley happy, give us a small clue.

  69. Andrea Rossi

    Georgehants:
    There are no clues, just very sophisticated measurements of which we are waiting the results.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  70. Angel Blume

    Dear Andrea,

    Precedent post did not arrive.

    My question:
    Apart from publication of TIP results, could you publish your own results with magnitude values.

    Best regards

    Angel

  71. Andrea Rossi

    Angel Blume:
    We will publish, from now on, only results of plants in operation. The Third Independent Report will be the last report published regarding an experiment on the current E-Cat or Hot Cat, , at least until we will not introduce significant modifications. We cannot give any further information about our plants until the opening of visits to our industrial plant in operation. About the TIP Report: it is not “so long delayed”, it is running through the normal reviewing period of any important scientific publication. There is no doubt that the results will be important, positive or negative as they might be.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  72. Angel Blume

    Dear Adrea,

    I have followed your work with great expectation since spring 2011. Apart from the publication of the Third Independent Party conclusions which are being so long delayed, are your own results positive or negative? Any figures of physical magnitudes herein?

    Best regards

    Angel

  73. Andrea Rossi

    Angel Blume:
    We will publish nothing before the publication of the Third Independent Party. We must confront it before any further communication.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  74. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Thank you — you say ‘worked’ on this plant. Does this mean the manufacturing has been completed? Maybe you are now involved in testing it?

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  75. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Compared to you, Sherlock Holmes was a dummy! ( he,he,he…I can’t give specific information now).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  76. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    What is the size of the workforce working on the 1MW plant?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  77. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Between Engineers, technicians, workers, Computer designer, the Team that worked on this 1 MW plant has been composed by 15 persons, plus me.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  78. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    I am glad to hear you speak so highly of your team — it must make your job so much easier. It is difficult to conceive of a masterpiece that doesn’t work as you intend!

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  79. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    In Raleigh area the standard level of employees’ professional background is very high. Every member of our team, whatever his level and profession, has the highest level of professionality one can hope for, from the welder to the engineer. Working with them you feel what means to play in the Majors. When I say that we are making a masterpiece I really mean it.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  80. Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi, just wanted to say I loved your comment to Curiosone about your lack of sleep,
    plus you shared the credit with your Team.
    You are first class !
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale Florida
    usa

  81. Andrea Rossi

    Robert Curto:
    Our team is making a terrific job. We are making a masterpiece.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  82. H-G Branzell

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    If the third party test comes out negative, what are the chances that the one MW plant that you are so busy building will work?

  83. Andrea Rossi

    H-G Branzell:
    He,he,he…good question. As a matter of fact these are two separated issues. Both are under exam.
    Theoretically, if one goes well there is no reason why the other go bad, and viceversa. Both results will arrive after a long term run, so both results will be reliable, positive or negative as they might be.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  84. Curiosone

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    The 1 MW plant that you are making now is still a remake of the one we saw in the 2012 test of Bologna?
    Thank you,
    W.G.

  85. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    I can say this: the 1 MW plant we are working upon has been manufactured in the USA, in the factory of Industrial Heat. It is substantially different from the one we made the test of in Bologna, because during these 2 years I did not sleep too much and because I am working with a top class Team.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  86. Curiosone

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    Thank you again for your answer on quarks. You are a good teacher.
    W.G.

  87. georgehants

    Dear Mr. Rossi, while you and IH wait for the results of the new report, I take it that you and they are continuing your good work on LENR.
    Would you say that the progress being made fits in with your personal expectations of the E-cats abilities.
    Many thanks.

  88. Andrea Rossi

    Georgehants:
    My work now is focused on the new 1 MW plant. As soon as we will have results that will available for publication, we will publish them. So far, pending the tests on the 1 MW plant and an R&D work of our team that could result in positive or negative results, we cannot give specific information.
    Than you for your attention,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  89. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Have there been any restrictions placed on the testers about what they can do with the E-Cat reactors you gave them for their testing — if so, what are those restrictions?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  90. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    The protocol of the experiment will be published in the report. I am not authorized to give previous information about any issue regarding the experiment .
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  91. Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi,

    Black, grey, white; It doesn’t matter what color the cat, what’s important is whether it heats the factory!

    :D

    Joseph Fine

  92. alutam

    Andrea,
    You say positive or negative as though they are the only two possibilities.
    What about “inconclusive”?
    Regards

  93. Andrea Rossi

    alutam:
    Maybe too, you are right. Like black, grey, white.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  94. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    What effect does it have on your work to be located in the heart of the Research Triangle in North Carolina?

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  95. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    In this place History has been made by some of the most imporant concerns of the USA.
    Besides, the Nature here is wonderful.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  96. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Thank you, useful info as usual. A gift for our Readers.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  97. Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi,

    Today, I received a paper from Drs. Fred Mayer and John Reitz which discusses Compton Composite Particles (i.e. Tresinos) in the early Universe. The message below is self-explanatory, but I am saddened that one of papers’ co-authors is no longer with us. The paper discusses their cosmological theories and the topic of dark matter. This subject may be of interest to astrophysicists, but may also be of interest to many others.

    Composite Regards,

    Joseph Fine

    //////

    Dear Colleagues,
    It is my pleasure to forward our new (open source) paper “Compton Composites Late in the Early Universe” to you. Unfortunately, it is also a sad moment because my mentor, colleague, and co-author, John Reitz, passed away just a few days before our paper was to appear.
    -Fred Mayer

    http://www.mdpi.com/2075-4434/2/3/382

  98. Curiosone

    Sorry, another question I forgot to ask for an answer: is it true that in the CERN accelerator protons speed makes them become smaller?
    Again, thank you,
    W.G.

  99. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone,
    Here are the answers to both comments of yours.
    Protons and neutrons are both made by 3 quarks; a proton is made by 2 UP quarks, each with an electric charge of +2/3 and a DOWN quark, with a charge of -1/3, so that the resulting charge is +1;
    neutrons are made by 2 DOWN and 1 UP, so that the resulting charge is 0.
    These quarks that make up the protons and the neutrons are called the “valence quarks”. The valence quarks are sorrounded by means of virtual particles, which are gluons, quark-antiquark pairs, so that the rest mass of protons and neutrons is much higher than the bare sum of the rest mass of the valence quarks. While the virtual particles around the valence quarks are in permanent revolution to make glad my friend Orsobubu, the number of the valence quarks remains fixed, so that if you add the total # of quark inside a proton, UP are always 2 more than the antiUP while likewise the # of DOWN is always 1 more than antiDOWN; in neutrons, DOWN are always 2 more than antiDOWN, UP are always 1 more than antiUP.
    Richard Feynmann named all these particles PARTONS.
    When protons ride around the Large Hadron Collider of CERN they reach a speed very close to the speed of the light; this fact, along the laws of the Relativity, make them become thinner: imagine a ball that becomes a subtle disk.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  100. Curiosone

    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    Another question of Physics, if you have time: of what are made protons and neutrons? I know, they are made by quarks, but can you explain some more ?
    Thank you for your patience,
    W.G.

  101. Andrea Rossi

    Daniel De Caluwè:
    If a LENR system works, it does not need public funding. If anything that works well needs funding, money arrives from investors. Think to Microsoft, Apple, etc. There are things that need public funding because they are important but do not produce profit, or the perspective of profits are too much distant in time to make them appealing for capital investments; in those cases is necessary that governments make funding: for example CERN, the conquer of Space, things like these. But it is not the case of LENR.
    This is my opinion, obviously it can be wrong.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  102. Daniel De Caluwé

    Dear dr. Rossi,

    Regarding the discussion about public or private funding of LENR, I can image that, in your case, you got a lot of dishonnest competition from wannebee competitors that are payed by taxpayer money (public funding), or by people who don’t play it very honestly, and was that the reason why, in your answer to Lande (who gave examples of the necessity of public funding in other fields), you wrote that LENR is a totally different thing.

    But why? I personally strongly believe that we, the people of the world (and we’re already with 7 billion on this globe, and we will be with 10 billion in 2050 or so), need very much LENR, because, (although there still are sceptics, especially in the United States), I studied very deeply the present climate change, and I know there is a problem (mainly caused by human activities), and also I know our nuclear power industry and its plants very well, and I know we need a better solution. So, as the present technologies are not good enough and could bring us in danger on the longer term (as well fossil fuels as present nuclear industry), do you agree that there should be (and probably will be an increasing) intrest and even demand from the public, maybe already in the near future? I personally think this will legitimate public funding, for the simple reason that the world needs it.

    Kind Regards,

  103. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    If the scientists performing the third party report figure out how the E-Cat works on their own – perhaps confirming by replicating the E-Cat – would you allow them to publish the details?

  104. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    The Third Independent Party, as such, is INDEPENDENT.
    They can publish what they want independently from me and whatever the results, positive or negative.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  105. Lande

    Dear mr Rossi,

    regarding your statement
    “I am totally contrary to public funding of LENR. It is a high risk field, that must be funded by enterpreneurs, not by taxpayers. Taxpayers must not be exposed to industrial risks.”

    I believe we have many industrial fields that started with public scientific research funding and which later was beneficial for humand kind. Like the Space and Moon race in the 1950′s and 60′s. Or the public funded research of Nuclear power for peaceful use, which have given us the Nuclear Power industry. So I don’t think it’s necessary a bad thing for the Public to fund high risk ventures, when the possible reward for the society are very high.

    And I may add that Public actually are exposed to industrial risks every day from the present Nuclear power plants, which have only limited liability against major Nuclear accidents….

    regards
    Lande

  106. Andrea Rossi

    Lande:
    Yes, the cases you cited are right, but LENR are a totally different thing.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  107. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Would you consider the installation of the initial 1MW plant the start of mass production?

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  108. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland,
    It is impossible now to give an answer.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  109. H-G Branzell

    Dear Andrea Rossi, you wrote:

    “Yes, I agree about public funding of basic and foundamental research: without it the CERN could not exist. But the case of LENR is totally different.”

    Maybe when the second independent third party report is published it will not be totally different?

    /H-G Branzell

  110. Andrea Rossi

    H-G Branzell:
    Depends on the results
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  111. Giovanni Guerrini

    @ orsobubu
    Sorry,but I am not a keinesians,my thinking is more close to Jean Baptiste Say’s thinking.
    Maybe I did not explain well my ideas.
    I think that humanity evolution mast go on and it happens through natural laws. We are the product of nature and the human system is a natural system. Included freedom of choice.
    I think that Thecnology is the first way for our evolution and revolution,givin us more time for loving,thinking and everything is aligned with ours desires and attitudes. In a word, freedom.

    Regards G G

  112. orsobubu

    >I am totally contrary to public funding of LENR. It is a high risk field, that must be funded by enterpreneurs, not by taxpayers. Taxpayers must not be exposed to industrial risks

    Perhaps you could agree at least about public funding of basic, fundamental research; this is widespread policy also in United States. This way, the capitalistic state can boost the national competitivity in global markets, employ and specialize large masses of workers and at the same time replace the capitalists when they cannot risk big capitals in long term programs. Then, when there are some results, capitalists can take advantage of this generous public help, exploit the discoveries and bring them to market and make the bucks. Obviously, I’m not a keynesian, so I don’t agree either, but this is a common political economy that gave impressive results in the past. Mr Guerrini asks you to turn keynesian, but I know that we’re for the revolution and will resist the temptation.

  113. Andrea Rossi

    Orsobubu:
    Yes, I agree about public funding of basic and foundamental research: without it the CERN could not exist. But the case of LENR is totally different.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  114. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    At what point do you expect you will be able explain how the E-Cat Works?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  115. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    For to explain the theory behind its operation is necessary the start of the mass production.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  116. Giovanni Guerrini

    Dott Rossi,
    I agree with you.

    Regards G G

  117. silvio caggia

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    about clowneries: Best way to hide a needle is to put a lot of straw around it. :-)
    About Ikegami-Petterson system and Brian Ahern System: do you think they use different technologies from your e-cat but share the same phisical effect or we are admiring an incredible series of new phisical discoveries?

  118. Andrea Rossi

    Silvio Caggia:
    Should I have to answer specifically to your good question, I would have to explain what happens inside the E-Cat’s reactor. Let’s delay the answer to when I will be able to explain how the E-Cat works.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  119. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Stunning, thank you very much for your usual useful information,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  120. Wladimir Guglinski

    eernie1 wrote in July 12th, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    1) ————————————-
    Dear Wlad,
    I am looking forward to the publication of your latest ansazt concerning the interaction of energy-matter.

    REPLY:
    Dear eernie1, the latest comment of mine concerning the interaction matter-energy is the item 11 of my paper AETHER STRUCTURE FOR UNIFICATION BETWEEN GRAVITY AND ELECTROMAGNETISM, submitted for publication two months ago to JoNP.
    I hope the paper will be published in Nov-2014

    2) ————————————
    I assume you are attempting to also explain the involvement of gravitational effects in your dissertation.

    REPLY:
    Yes

    3)—————————————-
    Do you present a different argument for the presence of only an attractive gravitational effect?

    REPLY:
    The paper proposes how strings formed by fluxes of gravitons, electricitons, and magnetons, are criated within the structures of the electron and proton, responsible for their electro-magnetic-gravitaty field

    4)——————————————–
    Also what have you decided for the speed of the effect? Is it instantaneous or does it propagate at the speed of light as determined by a Chinese experimenter who measured the speed by using tidal effects caused by the moons mass?

    REPLY:
    The speed of light

    regards
    wlad

  121. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Your paper arrived damaged: please send it again as an attachment to an email to be mailed to:
    info@journal-of-nuclear-physics.com
    Do not use Leonardo’s email address, please.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  122. Giovanni Guerrini

    And I refer not only to the man of the street:
    http://iononfaccioniente.wordpress.com/2014/03/21/ancora-uninterrogazione-parlamentare-sulla-fusione-fredda/

    I think this is another “Rossi’s effect” !

    Regards G G

  123. Andrea Rossi

    Giovanni Guerrini:
    I am totally contrary to public funding of LENR. It is a high risk field, that must be funded by enterpreneurs, not by taxpayers. Taxpayers must not be exposed to industrial risks.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  124. Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi,

    The following links descibe the “MiniSpec” – a recently developed compact Gamma Ray Spectrometer. MiniSpec connects wirelessly to a Smartphone and displays radiation intensity and Gamma Spectra. It was developed by Prof. Abi Farsoni of Oregon State University. This device can be used for environmental safety/security. Also, to make you aware that Gamma Spectrometers have been getting smaller and smaller.

    MiniSpec (Gamma Spectrometer)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmirNBEoGYU

    http://oregonstate.edu/ua/ncs/archives/2014/jul/sophisticated-radiation-detector-designed-broad-public-use

    High Energy Regards,

    Joseph Fine

  125. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    You have mentioned that you have made a strong investment in time, money and manpower in trying to replicate all LENR processes you can learn about from others through their available patent applications.

    Can you explain why this is such a priority for you when you have a huge job ahead of you in developing your own products?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  126. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    I did not say “I made a strong investment in time, money and manpower trying to replicate all LENR processes of the competitors”: I wrote “WE ( etc)”. We have set up a team of specialists for this purpose, to learn exactly what our competition does. I am not involved in this work, because, as you correctly say, I have other priorities, but I Always read the results to keep me informed and updated.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  127. Giovanni Guerrini

    Dear Dott Rossi,
    if I should be in your clothes I’d not be worried,because in the market there is the true.
    When you give an E-CAT to a scientist,he wants know how it works,when you give it to an industrialist he wants to see a good performance that gives him a lot of money.
    So he is very happy and this is the greatest evidence that the E-CAT works well.
    I think this is a synthesis,because the E-CAT could “save the world” exploiting a human “fault”,but this is a personal thinking.

    Mark,
    for “a lot of people” I was talking about the “man of the street”, the people who ,3-4 years ago,did’n know anything about lenr or “cold fusion”,now I have noticed that a lot of them say “oh,now there is the cold fusion!”.They are the same persons who said to me “cold fusion? Ah,it doesn’t work..”
    This could be a cultural effect of another “Rossi’s effect”.
    It seems that they have lost their memory,and I enjoy myself saying “oh,is it true?!”.
    Everyone enjoy himself as he can. eh eh.

    Regards G G

  128. Todd Burkett

    Hello Andrea
    Did your replication efforts include Blacklight powers suncell tech?
    As Dr.Mills hydrino is not a LENR, but a possible competing energy source?

  129. Andrea Rossi

    Todd Burkett:
    We have made substantial investments to replicate ALL the experiments reported in patents and publications. I repeat : ALL. I am sure that, at least in some cases, we know those Technologies better than the inventors themselves. We are taking LENR of our potential competitors very seriously and I confrm what I answered to Giovanni Guerrini today.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  130. Koen Vandewalle

    Andrea,
    Why would anyone in his right mind try to compete with you ?
    It is extremely pointless. A waste of time and effort.

    If your tech were open-sourced, then there would be some contest.
    If the music is the same, the dancers can compete.

    I’ve been watching “Le Concert”.
    I still wonder what role would suit me.
    Do you know what role suits you ?

    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  131. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle :
    Le Concert: the director of the orchestra of the Bolscioi has been reduced to a janitor for crimes he did not commit……… What a wonderful movie, probably the best I ever have seen in my life.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  132. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    If you not only tested patented concepts but also know how, does that mean Ikegami’s proposal for a “lithium permeated grain metal” system – using not only nickel but also lithium and magnesium – may have validity or may work? The paper which details the concept can be found here.

    http://www.roxit.ax/CN.pdf

    The above paper also explains a theory of how transmutations of nickel into copper may not be the primary energy source. It actually goes into a lot of detail in what reactions may be taking place. I’m very curious to know if you consider the paper and proposal clownery, or something potentially real and worthy of being studied.

  133. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    The Ikegami- Peterson theory is worth to be studied.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  134. Mark

    @GG
    “People”? There are people still literally believe that the earth is only 6000 year-old. Depending on who you are talking to I suppose. “A lot”??? Where???. Other horses could be Mitsubishi heavy industries……end of the day from the consumers perspective, the more genuine competitors to the field the better.

  135. Giovanni Guerrini

    …three years ago a lot of people said that this technology did not exist…now there are a lot of horses and people that say ” I said that lenr works !”.
    I enjoy myself very much ! eh eh .

    Regards G G

  136. Andrea Rossi

    Giovanni Guerrini:
    I agree with you, but I am very worried of the wannabe competitors that now are presenting clowneries, like did Defkalion: they are very dangerous, because their failures will spray dirt on our work, as well as defkalion did: our enemies are eager to find another defkocones to say that all LENR world is a clownerie. Therefore I want to say sound and clear: we have replicated all the existing patents and know hows regarding the LENR existing in the world and no one of them has manifested a real heat excess with the following exceptions: Ikegami-Petterson system and Brian Ahern System. These are the only two systems that actually gave us evidence of a heat excess. All the other systems that we have reproduced ( and we have reproduced, with huge investments, all of the systems that have been proposed in all the world in the last 20 years, with particular attention on the experiments made in the last 4 years, that have been analyzed with extreme endeavour) have not given any heat excess evidence. One of them had put in the market a “kit” that has turned out to be a joke. I have to say this to make well clear that any future failure coming from all the burlesque reactors persented recently have nothing to do with our work and has not any right to cite our work as a reference without our explicit permission.
    I hope this has been understood sound and clear, because I have been strongly disturbed form all the insults I had to sustain after the clownerie of the def… has been put in evidence, even if I had said from the beginning that def… was a clownerie. Much before Others have put it in evidence.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  137. eernie1

    Dear Wlad,
    I am looking forward to the publication of your latest ansazt concerning the interaction of energy-matter. I assume you are attempting to also explain the involvement of gravitational effects in your dissertation. Do you present a different argument for the presence of only an attractive gravitational effect? Also what have you decided for the speed of the effect? Is it instantaneous or does it propagate at the speed of light as determined by a Chinese experimenter who measured the speed by using tidal effects caused by the moons mass?

  138. Mark

    LATA
    It is all about “could be positive or negative” at this stage and I generously give 3 figures. If Andrea is all out on “positive” I will gladly add a few more zeros on.
    There are other horses in the market and Andrea , you don’t want to be too late!

  139. Andrea Rossi

    Mark:
    We are working under a tremendous pressure, but we are working well. Other horses? That’s what competition is!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  140. Lata

    Andrea,

    Someone suggested that the first 1MW plant has a serial number of 001. Should you not reserve at least twelve digits for the serial number, like 000 000 000 001. If everyone in the world had an e-cat, nine digits won’t be enough. Long time ago, Bill Gates allegedly said, “who needs more than 640K of memory?”! You don’t want to make that kind of mistake.

    Regards and Good Luck,
    Lata

  141. Andrea Rossi

    Lata:
    He,he,he…
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  142. Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in July 11th, 2014 at 5:12 PM

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Please just submit the appendix as an appendix to your paper. We cannot publish twice the same paper.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    ———————————————–

    OK,
    the appendix was sent to JoNP, having the following item :

    11. The different mechanisms for energy-matter interaction

    regards
    wlad

  143. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    We received it, thank you. The paper has been already sent to the peer reviewer.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  144. Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in July 10th, 2014 at 7:04 AM

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    But if you have urgency, you can send your appendix first as a link in a comment to this blog – you can do this also right now, and it will be immediately published- and at the same time send it to the JoNP as you usually do, where it will be reviewed first, published eventually.

    COMMENT
    Dear Andrea
    there is no urgency, I only wished to know if there is no problem to incorporate a new item, and submit it again.

    I will send the paper again (with the new item incorporated to it) to the JoNP.

    regards
    wlad

  145. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Please just submit the appendix as an appendix to your paper. We cannot publish twice the same paper.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  146. orsobubu

    >Our Team is making a masterpiece. But I must add that…(Orsobubu, please complete this phrase)

    Our Team is making a masterpiece. But I must add that energy production systems are in permanent revolution. Also I must add that we don’t know if the masterpiece could possibly work or there is a chance that it does not work at all

  147. Andrea Rossi

    Orsobubu:
    Perfect: any number can be negative or positive, whatever the figure.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  148. Wladimir Guglinski

    Dear Andrea

    I had a new insight on how works the mechanism of interaction matter-energy, and I would like to incorporate it to my paper AETHER STRUCTURE FOR UNIFICATION BETWEEN GRAVITY AND ELECTROMAGNETISM, submitted to the Journal of Nuclear Physics 2 months ago.

    As the time of the peer review process is about 6 months, I would like to know if I can write a new additional item in the paper, and submit it again to the JoNP.

    regards
    wlad

  149. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Welcome back!
    We have a long list of articles under peer review, and your appendix has to be reviewed anyway, I cannot tell you how much time it takes, I am not your reviewer. But if you have urgency, you can send your appendix first as a link in a comment to this blog – you can do this also right now, and it will be immediately published- and at the same time send it to the JoNP as you usually do, where it will be reviewed first, published eventually.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  150. Mark

    Hi Andrea
    A piece of great technological history, whoever has got the first unit serial number 001.

  151. Andrea Rossi

    Mark:
    I agree. Whatever the results.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  152. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Is this masterpiece so good that you will duplicate it many times — or is this a custom project?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  153. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    This is the 1 MW that will be produced in series.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  154. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    How is work on the 1MW plant progressing?

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  155. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Our Team is making a masterpiece. But I must add that…(Orsobubu, please complete this phrase)
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  156. Carlo Marcena

    At this point, having seen the long time professors are taking to issue their TP report, I am quite sure that they are going to give us good news. In fact, disclosing negative results and avoiding any disturbance to the energy “business as usual”, would have been much more easy, and fast.
    Regards to everybody,

    CM

  157. Here is a movie-trailer for the upcoming feature-length film called “Andrea Rossi: Revolution”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHJ6julvoMg

  158. Andrea Rossi

    Thomas Florek:
    Thank you and good luck for your work.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  159. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    Since the publication of the TPR seems a relatively long time away I would like to continue this line of thought to perhaps fill the time with some interesting discussion.
    OF course I am speaking of electron capture by nuclei of heavier elements. The proton capture of electrons to produce neutrons however is an ongoing discussion among various groups(Mills et al) which want to explain LENR with this reaction. Other groups(Italian priest et al)claim to have produced neutrons in this manner and have proposed a few sources for the missing 780kev of mass. From heavy electrons to vacuum space energy to acceleration effects, the theories continue.
    I think I have previously stated that attempting to explain the LENR effect by fusing H or D is the hard way to proceed. It is much easier and takes much less energy to manipulate electrons, especially when aided by the large coulomb forces within the nucleus of heavy atoms. When the electron fields are inside the nucleus all sorts of reactions can be proposed especially with the interaction of the weak forces. They can cause Beta emission, neutrino emission and even ejection of electrons from the atom along with a variety of energetic photons. All these have been reported in published reports by various highly regarded scientific authors.
    What ever the case, I look forward with great interest the publication of your theory.
    Thank you for all the enjoyable discussions you have provided me and continued good luck on your development efforts.

  160. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Thanks to you!
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  161. Andrew

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    What you keep saying about the schedule of the pubblication is completely understandable, and there is no doubt that (considering previous events) several months of keen review of data, it’s the only way to proceed.
    Having that said, there is one thing I do not understand.
    You have to agree with me that the magnitude of the ‘Rossi effect’ that you claim It s not that hard to test. I mean they have to test a cop a lot grater than 1. Grater enough to be economically competitive to other forms of energy. If indeed it could take several months to public a report, I am absolutely sure that it would not take more than a week to a serious expert professor to state wheather the apparatus meets your claims .
    This means that at this point they know without any reasonable doubt if the Cat works or not.
    And that leads to the conclusion that there is no reason for them to not share (at least with you) their results.
    What do you think?

  162. Andrea Rossi

    Dear Andrew:
    In the first part of your comment you answered to the second part. Besides, the peer review of a scientific publication takes minimum 3 months maximum one year.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  163. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear Andrea,
    some days ago (July 1st, 2014) you wrote “It is true that now and again I make a phone call to the Professors to ask about the scheduling of the publication.”
    Me too. hehe…, not a phone call to the Professors but a request to you.
    =D
    But later (on July 5th, 2014) you said “it won’t take too long the publication of the report”.
    It would be interesting to know if it’s some new news or just a guess.
    And if it’s a news, what “not too long” means? Days?
    Best regards,
    Giuliano Bettini.

  164. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    Only a guess. Not days, anyway, nor weeks. Several months, is my guess.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  165. Dear Andrea Rossi,
    In beta+ decay, a proton converts itself to neutron by emitting a W+ boson, which in turn decays to positron and neutrino. In electron capture, the same happens except that the W+ boson absorbs an electron to emit a neutrino. Both processes are described by the same Feynman diagram interaction vertex, so from the QFT point of view, there is no difference between beta+ decay and electron capture.

    In proton-rich beta+ active nuclei, electron capture is always possible in principle, while positron emission can only occur when the energy excess is sufficient to create a positron. When energy excess is above the limit, positron emission is typically more probable than electron capture (because it has a smaller number of input particles, I assume).

    The relationship between beta+ decay and electron capture is somewhat analogous with the spontaneous and stimulated emission of photons. In QED all those processes are described by a single interaction vertex and a single coupling constant (the fine-structure constant), although the phenomenology of the processes is quite different: one describes ordinary bodies, the other describes a laser. It took Einstein to realise this.

    As you pointed out, a free proton cannot spontaneously turn into a neutron by this coupling because it is energetically not possible.

    Best regards, /pekka

  166. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    Not to belabor the question, but as reported by many sources(including Fermi) one of the most common modes of radioactive decay(Beta- or Beta+) is postulated to be caused by electron capture including 56Ni. In all cases the resulting reaction involves the subsequent emission of a neutrino along with the Betas. The reports also measured Auger electrons and x rays which were predicted to occur when the upper electrons fell down into the vacated inner orbits(K shell). There seems to be a large consensus among researchers that electron capture does occur. If as you say the emission of the neutrinos cannot explain the conservation of parity, what else can?

  167. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Beta+ and Beta- decay, discovered by Fermi, are totally different things from electron capture. They are mediated in the weak force field by the W bosons, which are the sole bosons, with Z boson, the other boson that mediates the weak forces, able to change the identity of the particles they interact with inside the nucleus, not outside: the electron and the positron emitted, respectively, from the Beta- and the Beta+ decay are generated from the nucleus of the atom and have nothing to do with the K field of the electrons .
    About the electron capture:
    p + e^- = n + nu_e
    does not conserve the energy, therefore I can’t see how they can respect the parity. Make the math:
    p = 938.3 MeV
    n = 939.6 MeV
    e^+ = 0.5110 MeV
    nu_e = 2.2 eV
    The difference is equal to 1.6 times circa the mass of an electron.
    Electron captures can happen, it is true, exceptionally, but in case of instable atoms with a strong excess of protons, because in that case we have an exceptional exchange of photons between the nucleons and the K field of the electrons, but this is not our case. They are the classic exception that confirms the rule.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  168. Dave Lafleur

    Dr. Rossi,
    I find your work credible and am excited to see the potential for your science. I wonder if you would care to comment on any career advice in this field of what could be a major breakthrough. Boilermaker?

  169. Andrea Rossi

    Dave Lafleur:
    At the moment we have the safety certifications only for industrial plants. Industrial utilization of heat is the more profitable field, because in this field is possible to operate 24/7/360.
    Boilermaker surely could be an option. But remind that the results of the tests in course could be negative, so let’s be conservative so far. Thank you for your enthusiasm, though.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  170. Mark

    Andrea
    I also predict that the EHV and HV grids will disappear and be replaced by smart Mv and Lv grids. The reason why we have EHV and HV grids, is transmission efficiency over long distances. They will be no longer required with local Hotcat boosters compensators, which can do the job more efficiently and cheaply. Maybe there will be a smart grid, which can coordinate the number of online Hotcats and generators to the most demanding areas via the internet.

  171. Mark

    Hello Andrea
    I predict this scenario will happen when the Hotcat is available for sale. The grids and utilities will approach you and buy them in the thousands. They will fit them together with the suitable generators and inverters inside the substations or along the transmission lines to boost the power output of their grids cheaply and become very competitive in running cost to your home Ecat versions. The last thing they want, is people getting off grid. Mark.

  172. Andrea Rossi

    Mark:
    I predict another scenario: if the validity of the so called Rossi Effect will find confirmation in the report of the TIP and in the operation of the first plants installed, this technology will have the development within the limits of its potentiality inside the market. I am not able to know specifically in this period where these limits will set, but, as I Always said, there will be in any case an integration. What we will have, if all this will work, will be a new fire to be used. Anybody will be able to change fire, within the limits of the competitivity.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  173. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    L. Alvarez has written a number of papers on the electron capture process. He expanded on the foundation work of Wick and makes a good argument for it. Again perhaps I am misunderstanding your questions.

  174. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Of course, I know numbers of papers have been written about electron capture, and I read many of them, but this does not change the fact that leptons conservation law cannot be violated and that one neutrino does not conserve one electron. What I need to read is the report of the experiment in which an electron capture happened, with a credible, and not naif, explication how leptons conservation law has been respected.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  175. Dear Andrea Rossi,
    Electron capture (in the usual meaning of the term) is not a wrong concept because neutrino emission balances the lepton conservation law: p+e->n+nu_e.
    Whether electron capture has anything to do with LENR, I do not know.
    Best regards, /pekka

  176. Andrea Rossi

    Pekka Janhunen:
    your comment assumes that a neutrino is enough to conserve an electron, which is wrong.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  177. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    What do you see as the major opposition to eCat technology, assuming the TIR report is positive?

  178. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    I do not know, and I am an experimentalist: we will see.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  179. orsobubu

    Andrea, whith all this horrible drones swarming around, when publicly disclosing your current geographical position, please sidetrack the exact location by a couple of miles, just in case :)

  180. Andrea Rossi

    orsobubu:
    he,he,he…
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  181. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    I do not mean to take up your valuable time, but I think what you mean is that no sign of electron capture has been shown in any LENR experiments. The concept of electron capture(reverse Beta, internal conversion) has been shown in many experiments to be a viable effect. Usually a neutrino is emitted during the process which balances the electron spin parity. Perhaps I am missing something.

  182. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Send us a link to a publication wherein there is an electron capture with the respect of the lepton conservation: I never saw one. A neutrino is not enough to conserve the balance of leptons in an electron capture process!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  183. Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Part of energy price is due to market vision of its likely future scarcity due to depletion of some easily extractable oil and gas resources. Belief in the scientific and practical viability of the Rossi Effect will change the market vision, because it will provide an economic incentive for producers to sell more oil and gas before the products diminish in value too much. If this happens (i.e. if some produces indeed start to sell more oil and gas), the price of energy will drop. If that happens, it is obviously good for consumers, but it also reduces the E-cats’ profit margin.

    I realise that the above description is a bit complicated, so let me try a simpler version: Knowledge of E-cat might reduce energy price to some extent, possibly rapidly, so the E-cat in the market might face a somewhat tougher competition from traditional energies than what the present price levels would indicate.

    I hope the E-cat has enough “reserve” to be able to compete economically in a robust way even if the energy market changes as described above. Notice that the price change could come rapidly, much more rapidly than the availability of E-cat energy itself would affect the market by normal mechanisms.

    Best regards, /pekka

  184. Andrea Rossi

    Pekka Janhunen:
    I understand perfectly what you say, but I repeat that all energy sources will be integrated in the market along specific fields of competitivity, in a dynamic evolution.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  185. eernie1

    Andrea,
    I have noticed that the bloggers on Vortex-l are discussing internal conversion through electron capture as a possible LENR producer. They seem to look for reactions involving deuterium rather than in the metals used in LENR. I would suggest they read further the work of Fermi(Beta decay), Gian-Carlo Wick, L. Alvarez and Hideki Yucawa. If they do not understand or believe the reaction
    ,this research may aid them.

  186. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    I think electron capture is a wrong concept because it violates the leptons conservation law. I will, of course, be happy to say I am wrong as soon as I will be informed of substantial experimental evidence of it. So far, no trace of it I have been informed of.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  187. DTravchenko

    Dear Andrea, the customer that has bought the 1 MW plant is someway owned or has been also partially owned now or in past by Industrial Heat or by Leonardo Corp?
    Warm regards
    D.T.

  188. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    Raleigh, North Carolina, USA; in the factory of Industrial Heat, in the heart of the Research Triangle, where many mammoth companies have their R&D centers.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  189. “The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it.”
    Chinese Proverb.

    I think sometimes the Eastern philosophers can tell us a bit about how to approach a situation where we don’t know all of the details.

    Cheers,
    Mattias

  190. Andrea Rossi

    Mattias Andersson:
    Right!
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  191. DTravchenko

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    Where are you exactly in this moment, if I can ask?
    D.T.

  192. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    Not at all.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  193. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    You have stated the scientists doing the testing can perform whatever tests they see fit. Does this mean:

    1) They can perform any type of analysis (microscopic, elemental, isotopic) on the contents of the reactors – metals, gases, hydrides – that they desire?

    2) They can perform any type of analysis on the walls of the reactor?

    3) They can use the above info to attempt to build and replicate a hot cat? Cherokee has done this already, and I wonder if the TIP might be trying to do the same.

    4) They can publish any of the above findings in the report?

  194. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    What they are doing will be described in the report. I do not know what they are doing and I cannot give information about the protocol of the experiment, that surely will be published in the report.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  195. Curiosone

    Dr Rossi:
    I also wanted to ask: do you think it is more useful an instrument like this of the Lund University or the titanic facilities like CERN’s LHC ?
    W.G.

  196. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    These are two totally different things. LHC is a concern dedicated to theoretical Physics, to discover elementary particles that can be found only with unimmaginable energies in the common world. I strongly doubt that the particles discovered by apparatuses like the LHC will find a practical use, due to the costs of production. MAX IV and ESS are born to study any kind of material at costs that can be sustained to improve any product. In a nutshell, here is the principle upon which this system is based: when a beam of neutrons is aimed at a sample,some neutrons pass trough the material, some deviate with a characteristic angle that allows, analysing the deflection patterns and the energy of the neutrons, to get information regarding fundamental properties of the material targeted; for example, it will be possible to determine atomic and magnetic structures and to get a deeper understanding of the possible applications.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  197. Curiosone

    Dr Rossi:
    What do you think of the MAX IV and ESS ?
    (Google Lund University Max IV, ESS)
    W.G.

  198. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    I read that this fantastic plant is in the middle of an intensive development phase: this facility is like a gigantic microscope that, by means of neutrons, will allow to study materials more completely than ever. It will be extremely useful for all the scientific community.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  199. WaltC

    Andrea,
    The E-Cat detractors are getting desperate– to paraphrase how their complaints have evolved over time:

    1) It can’t work, the neutrons would kill you.
    2) Maybe neutrons aren’t a problem, but it’s only just a chemical reaction.
    3) Maybe it’s not chemical, but it’s not reproducible.
    4) Maybe it’s reproducible, maybe it works, but it’s not patentable because it happens in nature all the time. (So does Velcro/burrs which is patented.)
    5) Maybe it works, maybe it’s patentable, but he won’t share part of the profits with poor children.

    I wonder what they’ll come up with next?

    By the way, I believe the vast majority of the readers here completely trust your word– on profit sharing & many other things still to come.

    Walt C.

  200. Andrea Rossi

    WaltC:
    The E-Cat detractors are making a wonderful work: they do not know, but I read carefully all they say and write. Their critics sometimes are right, sometimes are not, but in both cases we learn from them. You have noticed that the more they fight against us the more we grow up and a scientific observation should put a ratio cause-effect between the criticism and our growth.
    About your paragraphs:
    1- no neutrons exit from the E-Cats
    2- quite difficult with the first and second thermodynamic principles
    3- we will see from the next Third Independent Party: maybe it is true, maybe not
    4- the patentability has nothing to do with the question if it works or not
    5- this is a very important paragraph, let us analyse it; first of all we must put a distinction between the objective and the subjective aspect of this issue;
    a- objective aspect: if the so called Rossi Effect works ( and let me remind to all that the results of the tests could be positive, but also negative) it will be useful for everybody, also for the children or all the world
    b- subjective aspect: I repeat what I wrote in another comment today: I gave my honour word that a relevant part of the profits of our work will be spent to fund the healthcare of children whose families cannot afford proper healthcare. I said it, my Team and I are doing it, we will do it. Do not ask me anymore about this issue, because this is an issue I want not to trumpet around.
    Thank you for your trust.
    You ask: what they will come up with next ? Whatever it will be, we will take advantage of it. In my life I had to overcome many, many, many very, very negative events and to survive I developed a skill to turn into positive a negative event: for example, when I have been put in prison for crimes I never made, I told to myself: ” what a wonderful occasion to study the LENR: now I lost everything I had, all my time can be dedicated to this”. It worked.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  201. Claud

    Dear Andrea, you say that “any attempt to stop a competitive product is a lost battle” but this is true only in a “perfect competition” environment that happens in a very limited macro-economics actual circumstances. Especially in the field of energy, which influences worldwide lifestyle and economy, the theoretical principles are defeated by geopolitical interests, weapon enforcement, big cartel price fixing and so on.
    Unfortunately the world goes without referring to economics textbooks.

  202. Andrea Rossi

    Claud:
    I am structurally optimist: if a product is competitive the Customers buy it. If a product is not competitive, the market will eliminate it. Period. I also have the luck to live in a Country where if something has a Worth, its Worth is always sustained: the USA.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  203. Andrea Rossi

    To the Readers:
    There is one thing that disturbs me, that is circulationg in minor blogs that have been reported to me: I am accused not to respect my honour word to spend relevant part of the profits produced by the Rossi Effect for the healthcare of children that cannot afford proper healthcare. I gave my word on this issue, and I always do what I say, even if this will not be trumpeted around.
    In due time and in due sites we will give information of this endeavour of us. I am very upset to have to write about this, but, unfortunately, the mother of the imbeciles is always pregnant and we must take care of what pops out.
    Andrea Rossi

  204. ettore

    Dear Andrea,

    to me it has always seemed as if the market is not as democratic as it should be. Power is not homogeneously distributed but rather concentrated on old established companies and networks.

    I am actually worried that some of these companies and networks have a large interest in disturbing or at least decelerating yours and other inventor’s work to conserve their power and position. Let us all do our best to not let them. As far as I am concerned I will.

    There are things whose importance lies beyond economical success.

    Best wishes,
    Ettore

  205. Andrea Rossi

    Ettore:
    I do not agree with you. Power is distributed in the cheapest way at the moment. Believe me: a product does not resist in the market if it is not competitive, and to decide if it is competitive or not is only one entity: THE CUSTOMER. For this reason we do not react to the stupidities said about our product, we just care the satisfation of the Customer, while the science of tests and experiments is essential to the development of a reliable industrial product. Any attempt to stop a competitive product is a lost battle, because the Customers will eliminate the non competitive ones.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  206. KeithT

    Dear Andrea,

    For the third party examinations, in addition to the Ecat is your theory also being examined.

    Best regards,

    Keith Thomson.

  207. curwin

    Andrea,

    Congratulations, not long now!

    Many LENR studies find some metal samples being tested reproduce the desired effect whilst other samples, often from the same batch, don’t. However, the majority of these studies use the electrolysis method.

    Does your method find that some batches of ‘fuel’ do not work as hoped, or have you completely overcome that problem?

    Best regards,
    Colin

  208. Andrea Rossi

    Curwin:
    This issue is typical of the systems based upon electrolysis . We do not use any kind of electrolysis.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  209. ettore

    Dear Dr. Andrea Rossi,

    your invention will relativise the meaning of money itself. Since such an enormous drop of the price of energy und it’s availability should strongly influence the economy.

    I think it would be very interesting to discuss the economical and societal impact of your invention.

    Best wishes,
    Ettore de Sio

  210. Andrea Rossi

    Ettore:
    I repeat: all the energy sources must be integrated. The commercial and social impact of the so called Rossi Effect will be made by that universal and democratic medium that is the market: in mercatu veritas.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  211. Ken

    Dr Andreawhile Rossi,

    How is the certification for the home user e-cats coming along? We haven’t heard much about them in awhile.

    Ken

  212. Andrea Rossi

    Ken:
    Before we get such a safety certification strong statistics of industrial plants safe operation are necessary. We are constantly working on this issue.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  213. LMV

    Hi Andrea,

    I for once completely agree with Andrew’s comment. Some photos will not hurt your company.

  214. Andrea Rossi

    LMV:
    I understand you all, but when we publish photos they are analized from professionals to the most microscopical level. Our photos are never trivial, if analyzed to that level, even if to you they can appear trivial. We will give all the specific possible information as soon as we will open the visits period. It won’t take too long, as well as it won’t take too long the publication of the report.
    Thanks to all of you for your strong attention, I understand the feeling, but we have to avoid a mess and an infinite theory of one ended discussions, not having the possibility, in this stage, to answer to the unavoidable tsunami of questions.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  215. Andrew

    Dr Andrea Rossi,
    For all of those people that support, believe and cheer for you, why don’t you give back a Little something? Such as some fresh new pictures of the working Plan or the hot Cat or whatever..
    That would Not violate your nda anyway
    Best regards

  216. Andrea Rossi

    Andrew:
    We are close to the moment in which abundance of what you are requesting will be poured in this blog and, maybe, somewhere else.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  217. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Regarding the 1MW plant you are installing at a customer’s factory: Did it pass the required tests at your factory satisfactorily before you took it to the new location?

    And happy independence day — how have you celebrated the holiday?

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  218. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Before we deliver a plant it has to be tested in our factory.
    I celebrated my 4th of July studying History of the USA, playing tennis, swimming and biking. Tomorrow back at work.
    Hope you too got fun.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  219. DTravchenko

    Did I understand well? Did you say that this blog is useless to you? As I said, you are the worst enemy of yourself.
    D.T.

  220. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    In my answer to BroKeeper ( to which obviously you refer) I said anything but what you write. This blog is a true treasure for me and my team, because we learn here from our Readers an infinite amount of information that surely is strongly useful to our work. I just said that we did not get information useful regarding what happens inside the reactor’s core, and it is obvious, so long we do not give information, direct or indirect, about it.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  221. Curiosone

    I also would like to know if it is different from the 1 MW plant that has been tested in Bologna in October 2011
    W.G.

  222. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    Yes, it is different.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  223. Curiosone

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    Has the 1 MW plant been built in the USA in the factory of Industrial Heat of Raleigh, North Carolina?
    I hope this is not confidential,
    Godspeed,
    W.G.

  224. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    Yes
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  225. Andrea Rossi

    To all our USA Readers:
    Happy July 4th and remember that July 4th is not just a barbecue chance, but is maily to remember the fight to get Independence from any oppression. Freedom is not for free, also freedom from the stupidity of persons that do not understand a revolution.
    Andrea Rossi

  226. Pietro F

    Un tempaccio da quelle parti, ho letto che l’uragano Arthur sta arrivando sulla Carolina del nord, forse era meglio Miami!!! Buon lavoro ingeniere (per meriti).

    A bad weather in those parts, I read that the hurricane Arthur is coming on North Carolina, it was better to Miami! Good job engineer (for merit)

    Pietro F

  227. Andrea Rossi

    Pietro F:
    Yes, Arthur hit the coast, but the effect has been not so strong inland, where we work. Thank you for your feeling!
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  228. Bernie Koppenhofer

    Dr. Rossi: Below is an article about Dean Karmen and his sterling engine. 1) Do you think your E-Cat could effectively supply the heat? 2) Have you met Dean Karmen to discuss? If not, do you think a meeting with him would be productive? Thanks.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2014/07/02/dean-kamen-thinks-his-new-stirling-engine-could-power-the-world/?utm_campaign=techtwittersf&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

  229. Andrea Rossi

    Bernie Koppenhofer:
    I think that can be an interesting application.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  230. BroKeeper

    Dear Andrea,

    You have a multitude of followers that visualize your contribution to society as an epoch of industrial and social revolution. Because of this many have offered helpful ideas, suggestions and innovative contributions within this JoNP. Have any of these instilled an epiphany to you for E-Cat and its peripheral application? If so, could you provide any insight as to what those may have been and any significant role to its evolution? If not now, could you provide those insights after the public industrial demonstration? Thank you.

    Best regards,

    BroKeeper

  231. Andrea Rossi

    BroKeeper:
    I can say that this blog is very useful for an exchange of information. I learn very much from the comments made here, in general, but it is very difficult to find a specific link to the epiphany of the E-Cat, also because, as you know, I never exchange information about the operation of the reactor. Information exchanged here is very useful in general, though.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  232. Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi you can also Google:
    The men who built America
    And watch the videos
    Robert Curto

  233. Andrea Rossi

    Robert Curto:
    As I said many times, I am sure all the energy sources will be integrated for the good of all.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  234. Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi I live in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, on Channel 116 H2 they have a program called:
    The men who built America, with serval parts, all good.
    The one that I think is very good is:
    Changing the Game. J.P. Morgan.
    When he wanted to bring electricity to America, John D. Rockefeller tried to stop him, because he was selling kerosene to provide light.
    He knew the electric bulb would put him out of business.

    I was wondering if the people who provide Coal, Nuclear Power, Natural Gas, Solar, Wind, etc. are worried that the ECat will provide electricity with less expense and zero emissions ?
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA

  235. Andrea Rossi

    Robert Curto:
    Thank you for the information,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  236. Layman

    Hi Andrea
    You can just sell the thermal energy only and not the unit and keep the IP secured . Seeing the unit in operation making money for your customers in long term, no Tip report can equate that.

  237. Andrea Rossi

    Layman:
    Your comment makes sense, but there are many other formulas that can protect the IP against reverse engineering. The contracts we make with our Customers protect us adequately, combined with the due diligence we make upon our Customers, their real need of the energy produced by our plants and upon the history of their activity.
    Thank you for your attention,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  238. Hermano Tobia: I totally understand Andrea Rossi position with eCat IP as he nailed it down once again in his answer. In the case of Google, Linux open source operating system code in Android is good choice for Google business strategy. But keep in mind, that Googles most valuable IP is in their superior Internet search algorithms and technology, which are strictly secret, closed source and proprietary software.

    kind regards

    Ville Kanninen

  239. Andrea Rossi

    Ville Kanninen:
    Thank you, very good point.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  240. eernie1

    Jacques,
    You have stated that electron capture from K L M orbitals occurs in neutron stars. In a number of blogs concerning LENR, I have proposed an ansazt that includes the capture of these orbital electrons or electron fields in NiH systems. Fermi showed that this event in some elements, produced the emission of B+ or B- particles and corresponding neutrinos. In lighter isotopes(more protons) the emission is B+, in heavier isotopes(more neutrons) the emission is B-. In the heavier elements such as Nickel, this process is enhanced because of the attractive influence of the larger nuclear coulomb field causing the inner electrons to possess smaller orbital radii. Not only do you achieve energy emission when captured, but also transmutation effects. The presence of external H- ions if brought close to the outer electrons impose another negative field which drive the inner electrons closer to the nucleus assisting in the electron capture by the nucleus and the interaction with the nucleons. May I have your thoughts on this.
    Respectively awaiting your reply.

  241. Hello Andrea. I am very curious about whether you have any opinions about the new pope. Some might say that Pope Francis is putting a refreshing amount of energy into his work.

  242. Andrea Rossi

    Thomas Florek:
    Is a Great Pope. In this historic period, with so many analogies with the periods before the first and the second WW, God has chosen the right man to help to maintain as much as possible a relative peace. It is paradoxical, but in this very period if the third WW has not yet been born it is thanks to the nuclear weapons.
    I think Pope Francis will play a cosmic- historical role to save the world from the war.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  243. Mark Saker

    Dear Andrea,

    Hopefully you can answer at least some of these questions :)

    1) Can you confirm whether the housing for the 1MW plant is the same as has been used for the previous 1MW test, or is a different container
    2) Do the internals look substantially different than the previous 1MW test
    3) What temperature will the 1MW plant be supplying
    4) Is the owner of the new 1MW plant Industrial Heat, or a separate entity with no ties to Industrial Heat?
    5) If the answer to 4 is no, can you specify whether it’s an instant coffee factory – a subtle insult at all the scientists asking for the ecat to boil a cup of tea? (‘fortyniner’ mentioned this on e-cat world, I think it would be great) :)
    6)Have you started up the 1MW plant yet and if so is it working?
    7)Have you started the installation for the 1MW plant at the customers premises yet?
    8) And final question, pleaaasssee answer this… will the plant be making just heat or heat and electricity?

    The first thing I do every day is check for news on the e-cat. Don’t keep us waiting too long please!! :)

  244. Andrea Rossi

    Mark Saker:
    I can answer only to this:
    a- the Customer is independent from us and has no participation to our business
    b- its employ is to make heat for industrial purposes.
    About all the other issues, we will give due specifications when the visits will be allowed.
    About the imbeciles, let them laugh, but, please, do not call them scientists: scientists are curious, intelligent and always wait for solid experimentation; besides, they never laugh of working people: only an imbecile can laugh of persons that are working with all the force they dispose of, and a scientist cannot be an imbecile.

  245. georgehants

    Dear Mr. Rossi, could you clear a little confusion.
    Is your new 1MW plant driven by the older E-cats or the newer Hot-cats.
    Best wishes

  246. Andrea Rossi

    Georgehants:
    We will give specifications when the visits will be allowed.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  247. Jeff Smathers

    I’d like to post a recent paper that may describe a directly contributing attribute in this field. It is interesting how associated fields in physics are merging results of disparate science activities into a possible explaination for the anomlies many are now utilizing in alternative energy platforms.

    http://arxiv.org/abs/1406.3941

    Thank you again Mr. Rossi for your diligence and honest efforts in applying the real scientific method, and not the current ego driven ‘religion of modern science’.

  248. Andrea Rossi

    Jeff Smathers:
    Thank you for the information.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  249. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    The paper is the eighth reference in the bibliography posted at the end of the article on the JONP found here:

    http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=53

    Earlier in the paper, posted on the JONP, it references the paper I have requested as a successive paper.

    These allowed us the determination of the ratio Cu63/Cu65=1,6 different from the value (2,24) relative to the copper isotopic natural composition. The Zn64 derives from the β‾ Cu64 decay: as it.s shown in Table 3, formation of Cu64 requires the existence of Ni63 which, absent in natural Ni composition, must have been in precedence produced starting by more light nickel isotopes. More details on this analysis will be given in a successive paper [8].

    I have double checked all papers posted during 2010 on the JONP, and I do not see the successive paper.

  250. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    The paper you are referring to has not been published because we were not sure of the results.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  251. Alessandro Coppi

    Hi Andrea, now you have certainly spoken with the professors that have written the report.
    While we all are waiting for the publishing, how are you? Much more happy or not?

    Best regards
    Alessandro

  252. Andrea Rossi

    Alessandro Coppi:
    It is true that now and again I make a phone call to the Professors to ask about the scheduling of the publication. It is absolutely not true that we talk of the report’s content. I have no reason to be happy or unhappy.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  253. KeithT

    Dear Andrea,

    1. Does the magazine have exclusive rights to review until publication.

    2. Are all the peer reviewers nominated by the magazine.

    Best regards,

    Keith Thomson.

  254. Andrea Rossi

    Keith T:
    1- I do not know, it does not depend on me
    2- I do not know: also this does not depend on me, but I suppose that first the paper is reviewed by the 6 Professors that made the experiment, who are reviewing each other, eventually also the magazine makes its own peer reviewing.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  255. H-G Branzell

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    The third party members have done their best to make a good report describing the results of the extended testing, I am sure. Why don’t you just publish the report here and now to let the whole world be your peer reviewers?
    Best regards, H-G Branzell

  256. Andrea Rossi

    H-G Branzell:
    I can do that if:
    1- the magazine will reject the paper
    2- the Professors will allow me to do that and will deliver me the report. Our protocol so far says that they will deliver to me the report several days before the publication. I am very positive about the fact that the paper will be published, because, whatever the results, positive or negative, the measurements have been made, as you correctly say, describing rigorously the extended test. I agree on the fact that, after the publication, the world will be the super-peer reviewer.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  257. Bernie Koppenhofer

    Dr. Rossi: Could you please provide us with just a little more information about the E-Cat you are installing for the customer? 1) Will it be supplementing the necessary heat or power or will it be providing all the heat or power needed in the customers situation. 2) How obvious will it be that the E-Cat is saving the customer money, will the customer see immediate savings?

  258. Andrea Rossi

    Bernie Koppenhofer:
    1- it will provide all the energy for the production it is employed for
    2- yes ( I hope)
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  259. Bob

    Dear Andrea Rossi

    1. Can you tell us if the new 1MW plant will be located in the U.S. or in Europe?

    2. Does the customer intend to use the plant for an industrial application (like making a product)or an environmental application (like heating a building)?

    3. Are the dimensions of the new plant smaller larger or the same size as the other 1MW plants you had previously completed?

    Thanks,

    Bob

    P.S. Thank you and the other commenters to this blog for the many clearly written explanations about particle physics concepts.

  260. Andrea Rossi

    Bob:
    1- USA
    2- industrial application
    3- same size
    Thanks to you for your kind attention.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  261. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    While we are waiting on the TIP, I was wondering if perhaps you could publish the paper referenced as, “ S. Focardi, A. Rossi, to be published on Arxiv.” that Sergio Focardi stated was rejected. After all this time, it would be great to actually be able to read it. Also, it would give all of us something to read and think about while we wait for the TIP.

    Thank you.

  262. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    That paper has been published on the Journal Of Nuclear Physics in 2010.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  263. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Thank you for your response to Giuliano Bettini below. These explanations are helpful to those of us who are following this story in making sense of the situation.

    Two follow-up questions if you don’t mind.

    1. Are the peer reviewers committed to publishing the report in the scientific magazine whatever the results might be — positive, negative, or inconclusive?

    2. If the peer reviewers refuse to publish the results for whatever reason, are the testers free to publish the results independently?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  264. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    1- yes: they accepted to make a third independent party test at the foundamental conditions that they will publish the results, positive or negative as they might be.
    2- yes: they can publish where they want to.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  265. Giuliano Bettini

    Hi Andrea,
    sincere thanks for answering.
    6 months … from WHEN?
    Very respectful greetings,
    Giuliano Bettini.

  266. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    You ask me to give answers I am not able to give. I just said that you must understand that as an average an important scientific publication ( and this will be important, either negative or positive as the results may be) can demand an average of 6 months for the publication. The reviewers want not to risk to make mistakes. An average means that a reviewing can last between 2 and 12 months starting from when the report has been delivered. In this moment I have not the information that would allow me to give specific answers. The experiment has been completed in April, then a report has been written on the base of the analysis of millions of data, confronting calculations of 6 Professors who reviewed each other before delivering the report. After that there is the peer reviewing of the magazine. It is a long, difficult process. You are intelligent and I am sure you can understand. The report made in 2013 by the same Commettee has put the bases and yelded precious experience for this long run test, making all the measurements that in 2013 have not been made and that have been suggested by many scientists who read the 2013 report. A Professor of the Commettee explained to me recently, when I made a phone call to ask the scheduling of the publication, that they ( the Professors) need all the time necessary to make a work that gives results beyond any possible doubt, because the results, positive or negative, will have important effects.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  267. Layman

    Thank you Sir!
    You make difficult concept, simple to understand

  268. Andrea Rossi

    Layman:
    Thank you for your kind attention.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  269. Layman

    Hi Andrea
    Please explain what is a rest mass? And mass of moving particles? Are they different?
    Thank you

  270. Andrea Rossi

    Layman:
    Rest mass: its value is
    m= E/c^2 time the square root of ( 1- v^2/c^2)
    It is one of the 4 foundamental magnitudes of the elementary particles and is the minimum amount of energy that an object can have: when a particle is perfectly still its amount of energy is equal to its mass time c^2, where, obviously, c is the speed of the light: in fact when the elementary particle is perfectly still in the above described formula v^2/c^2=0/c^2, the square root of 1 is 1, therefore m= E/c^2, from which E= m x c^2.
    Following this formula, you can see also that if the particle goes at the speed of light, mass becomes zero ( if v=c we will have the square root of 1-1=0, therefore the mass becomes E/c^2 x 0 = 0): in fact, the elementary particles that travel at the speed of light are massless. Obviously, this does not mean that a fermion accelerates to reach the speed of light, we all know it is impossible, but a Fermion can interact with another particle and generate a gauge boson ( for example, a neutron decays into a proton plus a photon and a neutrino). If you substitute to the variable v the speed of the particle, you get the value of the mass ( which is an integral, not a number). Due to the value of c ( 186 000 miles/second) don’t even think you can reduce your mass driving your car as fast as possible.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  271. H-B Branzell

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    In a closed system mass but not matter is always conserved.
    Kind regards, Albert

  272. Andrea Rossi

    H-B Branzell:
    In a closed system mass but not matter is conserved, as you say, provided the elementary particles are still. In a collision, energy is conserved, not mass.
    Thank you for your good point, though.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  273. Curiosone

    Dr Andrea Rossi,
    I want to take profit from your skill to teach Physics in a way everybody can understand: in your comment about the 4 foundamental magnitudes you wrote that energy is conserved, not mass. But, since mass is energy, why didn’t you write that also mass is conserved ?
    Thank you,
    W.G.

  274. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    To make it short, let’s start from Logic: “all cats are animals, but not all animals are cats”. Analogously, E = mc^2 implies that any form of mass is convertible into Energy ( in fact mass is usually measured in eV) , but , on the contrary, not any form of energy can be convertible in mass: in fact, all the Bosons that do not interact in the Higgs field are not turned into Fermions. For this reason it is correct to say that energy is conserved, in any form ( even in mass), but not mass.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  275. Andrea Rossi

    TO THE READERS OF THE JOURNAL OF NUCLEAR PHYSICS:
    Today has been published on the JoNP the paper
    “Relation between short- range forces and the concept of neutrality” , by Jacques Chaveheid ( time of peer reviewing: 6 months).
    JoNP

  276. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear Andrea,
    the impatience is not anxiety or curiosity, but it’s something related to the huge importance of the issue: why does take so much time to make the publication of the report of the 2014 experiment?
    Best regards,
    Giuliano Bettini.

  277. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    I edited your text for obvious reasons, conserving the meaning of it. You must know that the peer reviewing of a scientific publication usually takes 6 months as an average.
    The experiment made by the Third Independent Party is important, as you correctly wrote, and the Professors, to avoid criticisms, need all the time necessary to publish results of which they need to be sure beyond any reasonable doubt, also considering all the experience and the critics made during and after the 2013 experiment. It is not just matter of patience, it is also matter of respect for serious scientific work. The reviewing must take all the time it needs on the base of a serious and exhaustive analysis of the results, positive or negative as they might be.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  278. Angel Blume

    Dear Andrea Rossi

    What COP figure is expected at the new 1 Mw plant in construction?
    Thanks and good luck

  279. Andrea Rossi

    Angel Blume:
    We will give detailed public information about the 1 MW plant in operation in the factory of the Customer when the visits will start. At the moment we cannot give any specific information. It is matter of months, not years, though.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  280. Hermano Tobia

    @Andrea Rossi
    While I agree in priciple with your IP position, I don’t think the Linux / MS / Apple / Opensource comparison is appropriate nowadays: in the exploding smartphone mobile market, Android, which is basically free, and built upon Linux + AOSP (opensource) + Google apps has globally 80% market share, Apple has 16% and Microsoft 3-4%.
    But Google is not run by communists, it has simply a different business model in respect of its competitors.

  281. Andrea Rossi

    Hermano Tobia:
    You are right, but, as I said, after a technology is spread in the market it is normal its expansion with open sources. Our situation is totally different now, while it will be similar to what you describe several years after the mother-technology will have been consolidated in the market. Good point, though.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  282. Bernie Koppenhofer

    Dr. Rossi: Thanks again for you answer about IP, you must have answered that question ten times in the last four years. (: Of course you are right, IP is what makes the Tech world go around, without profit motive, very few new high tech inventions. Even China has learned that lesson. You are headed for exciting times in the next few months. Good luck.

  283. DTravchenko

    Another question: what do you think of the results so far got from your competitors? Can you make a sort of a rating?
    Warm Regards
    D.T.

  284. Andrea Rossi

    Dtravchenko:
    Some of them are making a very good work, mainly the ones that have worked to repeat our technology after it has been published in 2009 by the Patent Office, some are not, but I never comment specifically the work of our Competitors. A team of specialists funded by us is studying all the Technologies published and/or patented by our Competitors, replicating exactly what they describe, to check the real worth of their IP. So far we obtained the same results described in their publications only in three cases, regarding a Swedish, a Japanese and a USA LENR scientists. All the others have not given any anomalous amount of energy, honestly, even if we have spent substantial time and money to check the real status of their potential competitivity. I must add that many of the Technologies that did not produce any anomalous excess of energy can be considered all the same interesting and good, so that maybe in future will be improved.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  285. DTravchenko

    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    Strong suggestion from a Russian friend: you too make open science of your technology, as Others LENR researchers did: this choice from you can help the development of your technology.
    From Russia, with love and “Warm Regards!”
    D.T.

  286. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    I answered many times about this issue, this is the last one, because I cannot continue to repeat the same things…
    As many Readers invited me to do, I should give away as a gift the Intellectual Property portfolio to make everybody happy and energized, as well as many other LENR researchers declare would do should they be in my same situation.
    Let me tell you a story.
    Before the fall of the USSR, in the seventies, when the Italian Communist Party ( PCI) was one of the pillars for the communist parties in Europe, an Italian Comrade ( “compagno” in Italian language) had to sustain an exam to become the chief comrade of the communist section of his neighborood. His examiner asked him: ” Should you be the owner of two skyscrapers in the centertown of Milan, what would you do?” Promptly the wannabe chief comrade answered: ” one to me, one to the PCI”.
    The examiner raises a bit his eyebrows and says ” I was hoping you could answer both skyscrapers to the Party, but enough is better than nothing, so I take for good, even if not perfect, your answer…second question: should you be the owner of 2 Ferrari cars, what would you do?”
    Again promptly the wannabe chief comrade, looking straightforward in the eyes of the examiner, answers: ” one for me, one for the Party “.
    Coherently, the examiner says ” I would have preferred you could answer both to the Party, but nobody is perfect, so I accept for good also your second answer…now third and last question: should you own two bycycles, what would you do? ”
    At this point the wannabe chief comrade doesn’t answer, drops of sweat begin to wet his forehead, becomes first red faced, than white…until the examiner says: ” What’s the matter with you? You were ready to give to the party one skyscraper in downtown Milan, then a Ferrari and now you remain mute and scared to give to the Party a bycycle? ”
    The wannabe comrade turns the eyes toward nowhere, cocks the head between his shoulders and whispers: ” As a matter of fact, I really own two bycicles “.
    The sense of this story is, as everybody surely has understood, that the generosity to give away for free the Intellectual Property portfolio is inversally proportional to the square of the worth of its content.
    To give away for free the Intellectual Property of a technology is a mistake that takes away from the real business that technology, because nobody invests seriously in a technology if there is not the right of the ownership of the connected IP. The history gives a lot of even recent examples: compare what happened with Linux vs Microsoft, compare what happened with the open source high technologies vs Apple…Obviously, eventually the technology becomes universally known, once it is spread in the market, but in the meantime the companies that have put immense capitals to fund its development will have paid back their efforts with profit. Finally: look what happened in the communist Countries, where private property has been universally turned into common property and knowledge, frustrating ( and forbidding) private interest.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  287. orsobubu

    Andrea, will you find the time to write an autobiography? I can already see the hardcover, with a photo of yourself in running shoes standing next to a small shining Ecat placed on the ground. In the background, a big rusted Petroldragon tank with the cat logo and the book title painted on in capital yellow letters: The Caterpillar. As a bonus, a DVD is included with the complete JONP database and the catalyzer formula. Also a voucher is inserted for the new Wladimir’s book.

  288. Andrea Rossi

    Orsobubu:
    He,he,he…when I will be retired ( after my hundredth ride around the sun) I will consider your suggestion…obviously the title you could like is, I suppose, ” The permanent revolution of energy production systems”: true?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  289. Wladimir Guglinski

    To the readers of the JoNP:

    Einstein proposed in his Special Relativity that space is empty.

    That’s why he proposed in his General Relativity that the space-time can be bent by big masses, and it originates the gravity.

    However a new experiment published in 2011 proved that space is not empty:
    Light created from vacuum shows empty space a myth
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/Light-created-from-vacuum-shows-empty-space-a-myth/articleshow/10789049.cms

    So, it is obvious that Einstein theory of gravity is wrong.

    And now some theorists are dealing with the question of the gravity as it was be a fluid.
    Turbulent Black Holes
    http://arxiv.org/abs/1402.4859

    In another words, Huan Yang, Aaron Zimmerman, and Luis Lehner are dealing with the gravity from a new fundamental consideration: that space is not empty, as Einstein had wrongly supposed.

    As we realize, step by step the theorists are changing everything in the foundations of the Theoretical Physics.

    But obviously the problem is more complex, because there is need also to consider other fundamental question: how to conciliate the gravity with the Higgs boson, if they continue to consider that the mass of particles is caused by the Higgs boson.

    They have hard questions to solve, indeed…

    regards
    wlad

  290. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Will your plans for the 1MW plant visitations by invited persons be affected by the third party report? In other words, will you wait for the publication of the report before the visits are allowed? Or are the two issues totally unconnected?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  291. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    The two issues are unconnected.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  292. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    For anyone interested, here’s a link to your 1978 patent, “Procedure for the recovery of industrial and urban waste”. Thanks to Mats Lewan for providing this.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/231423045/BREVETTO-PETROLIO-1978

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  293. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    When I applied for that patent I was 27 years old, with a 6 years experience in production of waste to energy plants and air pollution control systems. I designed, patented and manufactured my plants, and used to go personally to sell them. At those times my competitors called me “the Caterpillar” for the amount of work I was able to do…wherever there was a plant to do, I was there ( he,he,he…it was not easy to beat me in a competition to get a Customer). Then I put in the tech of this patent all the money earned, and lost everything in 1995 ( see http://www.ingandrearossi.com).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  294. Wladimir Guglinski

    Curiosone wrote in June 25th, 2014 at 6:38 PM

    Dr Andrea Rossi,
    one question of physics: when an accelerator like CERN finds antimatter is because antimatter is inside the matter and crushing it the antimatter is made free?
    W.G.

    ————————————-

    Dear Curiosone
    I supppose you are asking it because of the paper published in 22 June 2014 in the journal Nature:
    Evidence for the direct decay of the 125 GeV Higgs boson to fermions
    http://www.nature.com/nphys/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nphys3005.html

    However, the role played by the Higgs boson for the mass of the particles is the same role played by the Yukawa’s meson within the structure of the neutron.

    Yukawa proposed a theory according to which the neutron is formed by proton+meson, and he awarded the Nobel Prize in 1949 because the meson was detected (the existence of the meson was unknown before Yukawa’s proposal).

    Today we know that the meson plays no any role in the structure of the neutron, because according to Standard Physics the neutron is formed by two quarks down and one quark up , n=(d,u,d).

    So, in spite of the LHC had detected the Higgs boson, it does not mean that the detected boson is responsible for the mass of the particles, as proposed in Higgs theory.
    In 2015 the LHC will work with its full potency, and probably many other bosons will be found.

    The Yukawa’s meson and the Higgs boson are two examples on how the development of Physics advances via misunderstandings and “coincidences” which induce the theorists to believe that they are in the correct way.

    regards
    wlad

  295. Mark Saker

    Dear Andrea,

    An enjoyable (well enlightening) read for you on the origin of creativity I have just read and recommend. It’s approximately fifteen minutes worth of words! :)

    http://goo.gl/eUdmRF

  296. Andrea Rossi

    Mark Saker:
    Thank you!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  297. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    How are the current eCat reactors configured in the 1 MW commercial unit that you are working on?

    1. Are you using the same eCat reactor the independent party report reviewed or a later model?
    2. What is the nominal thermal output of each eCat reactor used in the 1 MW system?
    3. How many eCat reactors are used in the 1MW system.
    4. Is the power input electrical (e.g., 220VAC)?
    5. Can individual eCat reactors be replaced while the 1MW system is continually operating?
    6. How far can the 1MW control unit be from the 1MW unit?

  298. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    All the particulars regarding the 1 MW plant, as I said already, will be given when the visits will begin, not before.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  299. Curiosone

    Dr Andrea Rossi,
    one question of physics: when an accelerator like CERN finds antimatter is because antimatter is inside the matter and crushing it the antimatter is made free?
    W.G.

  300. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    When an accelerator generates antimatter it is not because antimatter is someway contained in the matter ( they would annichilate). What happens is that the collisions between elementary particles generate new particles: the waves representing the original particles make new vibrations in the antimatter field and we detect them as antiparticles. In quantum field theory, elementary particles are just tiny vibrating waves in a particular field: they arise out of the field and interact in fields.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  301. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    This might be of interest to you — I posted on E-Cat World about the waste-to-biofuel plant that is opening in Edmonton, Canada. http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/06/25/edmonton-to-launch-waste-to-biofuel-plant-based-on-old-rossi-technology/

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  302. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Yes, I knew about it, and I am proud of it and wish good luck to this enterprise. They use the technology basics that I patented in 1978 ( patent expired) and I am very happy to see that my work has left a legacy.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  303. silvio caggia

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    a difficult question, but you should be able to answer, as a philosopher:
    Forget to be Andrea Rossi, and forget to work for I.H., if you were a common but clever guy, that could get info only from internet, would you believe that e-cat works?

  304. Andrea Rossi

    Silvio Caggia:
    Obviously yes, but the objectivity coming from a subject is born from his subjective knowledge, which, as any knowledge, can be wrong, or, better, must be wrong in some situation to be real ( this is phylosophy). Anyway this is not a matter of “to believe or not to believe” , it is a matter of technology, which means to work or not to work ( this is science ). In mercatu veritas ( this is good sense).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  305. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Obviously when the 1MW plant is revealed to the public there will be much interest many questions about it in terms of efficiency, performance, construction, etc.

    1. Is your intention to release the maximum amount of information possible about this plant so that interested parties can make informed decisions about future investment in E-Cat technology?

    2. In addition to showing the plant to invited guests, will you be releasing documentation, images, film, etc. to the general public?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  306. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    1- Our commercial division will release all the information useful for the purpose in the forms deemed opportune
    2- The invited media will be able to do it
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  307. Paul

    Andrea,

    How long did it take to manufacture all the e-cat reactors for new 1MW plant?

    Paul

  308. Andrea Rossi

    Paul:
    It is difficult to say, due to prototyping for technological evolution in course.
    We will be able to define the specific times of manufacturing along an assembling chain after this R&D phase.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  309. Koen Vandewalle

    Andrea,
    You write that you’re very busy with the 1MW plant.
    How about the jet-engine ? Is that on hold ?
    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  310. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    Our R&D department is working on more that one issue. I personally in this period am focused on the 1 MW plant. You must put a distinction between us and me.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  311. Piero Mongioj

    Grazie per la accurata risposta… Solo un’ultima precisazione, se puó… L’impianto in elaborazione è un Hot-cat o un impianto E-cat del tipo già mostrato a Bologna? Grazie di nuovo e… tanta fortuna (serve anche quella, no?). Cari saluti, Piero Mongioj

  312. Andrea Rossi

    Piero Mongioj:
    We will give in due time the description of it. Substantial evolution happened, though.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  313. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Thank you for the update regarding the 1 MW plant, and best wishes with this installation. I hope that your team is recording this activity for future publication — the successful completion of this project will be major technological and historical milestone.

    Best regards,

    Frank Acland

  314. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    We are recording everything. Thank you for your constant attention,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  315. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    Now that the tests for the report have been concluded, are the devices(all three)provided by you, to be returned or will you give them to the professors for their further study under NDA? I still hope you can give us a heads up for the report when you receive it.
    Thank you for all your past and future responses.

  316. Piero Mongioj

    Anche se la curiosità per il report è tanta, vorrei invece chiederle se gli e-cat direttamente sotto il suo controllo (per ricerca o monitoraggio) si stanno comportando secondo le sue aspettative e con i rendimenti da lei attesi. Un caro saluto, Piergiorgio Mongioj

    Are the E-Cats you are making your R&D with in this period behaving along your expectances, while we are waiting the results of the third independent party?

  317. Andrea Rossi

    Piero Mongioj:
    At the moment I am working focused exclusively on the 1 MW plant we are installing in the factory of the Customer . The work is advancing along our scheduling, some problems emerged, but I cannot give any specific information; in due time, I think within 2014, visits to this plant in operation will be allowed, unless problems will emerge. This time we are not preparing a test or a demo, the 1 MW plant is going to work along a production line in a factory to lower the production costs of the Customers. The target is: ” to increase the profits of the Customer by means of the E-Cat”, indipendently from any other consideration. It is a matter of money, not of science and our Customer is a Corporation, not a scientific institute, so now we are working in a different context that is at the first step toward an industrialization of the product. The expectations of the Customer can be either met or not, which means that the results, under the economical point of view, can respect the guarantees or not: we have to see it in the reality, because, as we well know, ” IN MERCATU VERITAS”.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  318. Mark

    Here hoping the E-cat the get billions out of poverty

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiA2XCf9l2o

  319. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini and Gentle Readers:
    Please disregard any rumor, whisper, noise, voice, whistle, chant, music or whatsoever acoustic waves vibration regarding the date of publishing of the report, because nobody knows anything of it. Until I do not know anything about it, you can be sure nobody knows anything about it. All the acoustic waves vibrations about it are groundless virtualities, whatever the frequency.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  320. Giuliano Bettini

    Hi Andrea.
    I’m beginning to think that all these rumors about the date of publication are balls.
    I’m tempted to publish this message (obviously false….):
    “I received reliable information, the release date is expected to be the first week of July, on arXiv”. =D
    Best regards,
    Giuliano Bettini.

  321. Mark

    Andrea,

    Do you anticipate that the report on the Hotcat will be released first then followed the ash isotopic analysis report or both will be combined in one single report?

  322. Andrea Rossi

    Mark:
    I have absolutely not idea what the report will say.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  323. alutam

    Andrea,
    The powdered metal industry process is basically two parts. First one company will make the metal powders that are annealed in large ovens (Gas fired)in controlled atmosphere. Then the powders are sold to other companies that press the metal powder into dies to form parts (gears, bushings, terminal lugs, strut nuts, etc.) and those green parts are sent through a sintering oven (gas fired or electric in controlled atmosphere) to harden and solidify the parts. Many BTU’s are required for both processes. They would be a good target for your technology in my view. Sintering iron parts requires temperatures of >1100 C but sintering copper alloys requires <1000 C.
    Best regards.

  324. Andrea Rossi

    Alutam:
    Thank you
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  325. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    I’m sorry — what I meant to ask was: what would you consider to be a negative result in each case?

    In other words, what kind of results from the TPR would you consider to be negative?

    Also, in your R&D work?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  326. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Let us wait for the report. We will see and analyse it . If the Professors will mark negative conclusions, we will see what they are referred to, as well as we will do in case of positive conclusions. In the meantime there is nothing specific I can say.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  327. alutam

    Andrea,
    Have you done any testing of E-Cats for use in the field of powder metallurgy (sintering)?
    There is a lot of those businesses where I live and they could use a boost in efficiency.
    Best regards.

  328. Andrea Rossi

    alutam:
    Interesting: can you explain more specifically ?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  329. Bernie Koppenhofer

    Dr Rossi: Wouldn’t the roll out of the E-Cat be faster and more effective if IH would have many more partners in all areas of product introduction? Thank you again for your time.

  330. Andrea Rossi

    Bernie Koppenhofer:
    I am not involved in commercial issues, being in a position of Chief Scientist with IH.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  331. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    From your perspective, what would constitute a negative result from:

    a) The independent third party testing?
    b) Your own R&D and prototyping?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  332. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Both
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  333. Andreas Moraitis

    Dear Dave Lafluer,

    Better thank the author of the paper, my contribution to the field is equal to zero.

    Best regards,
    Andreas Moraitis

  334. orsobubu

    Dear Eernie 1, Koen Vandewalle, Steven N. Karels

    instead of litigate amongst ourselves, it’s important to me that when the moment will arrive, Andrea Rossi announces the release of the report, which has been released and presented to him, which is physically in his hands, which is presently carefully studied and analyzed in detail with his staff and taking notes of the complicated formulas and pictures, that he sent some guys to buy a lot of sandwiches and chips and soda for the difficult task, conscious of the fact that the results of this huge investment can be positive but also could be negative at this stage

  335. Dave Lafluer

    I would like to thank Andreas Moritis for his submission to this forum:

    “Perhaps the following paper from Kharkov Institute (Ukraine) could be of interest:

    http://arxiv.org/abs/1406.3941

    unquote
    I found to be a eye opener of my ignorance of physics, yet fascinating. The only part I really understand is the statement:

    “Numerous experimental data on low energy nuclear reactions assisted by the crystalline environment [1-3] leave little doubts about the reality of LENR, but a comprehensive theory of this phenomenon remains a subject of debates”

  336. Hello Andrea. I heard a rumor that you will strongly favor a jazz band called “The Ones of the Fused Cat”. While that band is hard to find, I did find this lesser imitation from a couple of small-time radio personalities.

    https://vimeo.com/98669735

  337. Andrea Rossi

    Thomas Florek:
    He,he,he…nice!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  338. eernie1

    Dear Koen,
    1. Those who will not sleep are not sleeping now in anticipation of the report.
    2. I cant think of a better advertisement for LENR and the Rossi effect than having both those sites saturated by inquirers.
    3. The critics are already firing their best shots without reading the report. They must read the report to try to add to their criticisms.
    Personally, I would rather be informed of developments than kept in the dark.

  339. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie 1:
    1- to sleep well I suggest to all who are not sleeping to read the biased critics against LENR ( all of them)
    2- we are not advertising anything, we are making R&D in this phase of our work
    3- the ones that critic the report before reading it are just displacing air with their tongues: not an effective way to make hurricanes. Just ignore them.
    Nobody is kept in the dark, everybody is waiting patiently for the results of a huge, long, difficult work whose output will be important. The Professors are, obviously, aware of the importance of this work and are keeping all the necessary time to make the best possible work. I am conscious of the fact that the results can be positive but also could be negative.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  340. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I agree with Koen. Allow the professors to actually release their document in peace without any pre-announcement. I too daily check JoNP to see if the report has been released. What is to be gained by announcing that you have received the “final copy” before publication?

  341. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    I think what you say is wise.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  342. Bernie Koppenhofer

    Dr Rossi: The Middle East is blowing up again, which means oil prices will explode. This is going to hit the already hard hit world economy, especialy the marginal economies. With this in mind, does IH have plans to accelerate the introduction and distribution of the E-Cat?

  343. Andrea Rossi

    Bernie Koppenhofer:
    We are working very hard for the development of our production, and we are doing this at the maximum of our strength, indipendently from external factors. But remind that I have honestly to say, at this stage, that the results of our present efforts could be positive, as we hope and have made huge investments for, or negative.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  344. Koen Vandewalle

    Eernie1, Andrea,
    NOT a good idea !
    1: nobody will sleep for 3 days.
    2: JoNP and Arxiv (I assume) will go down because of everybody continuously refreshing the pages.
    3: All countermeasures will be launched by competition.
    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  345. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    You made some point.
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  346. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    Previously you have stated that the authors of the 3PR would give you a copy of the report three days before submission. Can you inform us that you have received the report when they submit it to you? I know that you cannot comment on the contents but knowing that you have received the report will relieve some of the anxiety for your readers.
    As always, best of luck!

  347. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie 1:
    Ok
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  348. Andrea Rossi

    Kevin O’ Malley:
    The enthusiasm put in evidence in the hard times will be surely one of the elements, but many other issues have to be analysed. Good luck for your ICM solutions anyway.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  349. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    You stated the eCat has a shelf life of 6 months (or that 6 monts would be prudent).

    6 months seems very short to me. Is this because:

    a. You are being conservative?
    b. The hydrogen charge has a limited lifetime (either gas or metal hydride)?
    c. The Nickel surface preparation has a limited time?
    d. The Catalyst has a limited lifetime?
    e. The electronics and/or control mechanism have limited lifetimes?
    f. This has not been tested so you really don’t know the shelf life?

  350. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    a. yes
    b. confidential
    c. confidential
    d. confidential
    e. confidential
    f. right: I know only what I tested, and so far we tested a shelf time up to 6 months.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  351. Hello Dr Rossi:

    In a few weeks, you will be inundated by commercial requests for ordinary engineers to try to sell into your market.

    Will you be giving those of us who have supported LENR for many years any kind of advantage?

    In particular, right now I am marketing Industrial Custom Memory solutions, in DDR and in Flash. I would hope that you’d consider us in your designs.

    best regards

    Kevin O’Malley
    Field Application Engineer
    Innodisk Corporation http://www.innodisk.com
    humans will know this phone number: 408 four six -oh- 57 -0h- 7

  352. alutam

    Andrea,
    I’m not sure if this has been asked before. Does an E-Cat have a shelf life?
    After it is made must it be put to use soon or can it be stored in a warehouse for months or years until it is needed and still perform its function?
    Best Regards.

  353. Andrea Rossi

    Alutam:
    This is a very interesting question, and, as I can remember, it has not been forwarded before.
    I think that 6 month is a prudential shelf life term, because we already happened to store for 6 months a charged E-Cat before putting it in operation.
    Thank you, good point.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  354. Andreas Moraitis

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Perhaps the following paper from Kharkov Institute (Ukraine) could be of interest:

    http://arxiv.org/abs/1406.3941

    Best regards,
    Andreas Moraitis

  355. Andrea Rossi

    Andreas Moraitis:
    The physics of the so called discrete breathers are very interesting. Good paper, thank you for citing it to our Readers.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  356. Marc F

    Dear Andrea:
    Just came across this article today.
    Think about the millions of lives that could be saved by incorporating the E-Cat into this device:
    http://www.popsci.com/article/science/pure-genius-how-dean-kamens-invention-could-bring-clean-water-millions

    Marc

  357. Dear Mr Rossi,
    Have you had any changes to the method of purchasing Ecat’s? Will it be through the licenced dealers or by other methods? I have had many inquiries about purchasing Ecats from my clients and I do not know why they think I can get one, maybe because I have been talking about you and the Ecat for so long.
    Thank you for all your blood sweat and tears.

  358. Andrea Rossi

    Manuel Cilia:
    Just contact
    info@leonardocorp1996.com
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  359. Dear Andrea Rossi,

    If we suppose that both your commercial plants and the scientific test results will be success – as we all hope here – then many things will follow. This will then certainly happen: governments in USA, EU, China, Japan, South-Korea etc. will start to pour billions and billions of dollars to LENR research.

    Do you think that the coming research around the world following your invention will reveal several different new practically useful LENR processes?

    Or do you think that what you found is more probably the only practically useful LENR process just maybe having several useful variations?

    Kind regards

    Ville Kanninen

  360. Andrea Rossi

    Ville Kanninen:
    It is impossible to answer to your question, or, at least, I am not able to. I do not know what the competition will do. One thing I am sure of is that from competition will rise more convenience for the market. Remember: ” In mercatu veritas “. I know that giants are already working to compete with us: Shell, Mitsubishi, MIT, Volvo, ABB, NASA…and I am strongly honoured to have inspired, in some way, their work; to be clear: should I have not broken the ice in three years of public work, since January 2011, none of these Entities would have taken seriously LENR in the measure they are taking them now. Is it not true? At the cost of tremendous fights that also involved personal issues that have nothing to do with my work, but still have consumed time and energies. Anything has been tried to kill our work, without substantial effects, though ( thanks to God). Our Team is stronger than ever.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  361. Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I know that you have commented on the Ecat patent situation in the past.

    1. How do you currently feel about being unable to obtain a patent for the Ecat?

    2. If a patent was granted do you feel it would speed up the process of licensing the Ecat technology to 3rd parties?

    3. Would it quicken the spread of the Ecat around the world?

    4. If the answer to 2 & 3 is yes. After the report is released would it be helpful if someone were to work to raise the awareness of the public and government that this situation exists?

  362. Andrea Rossi

    Mike Phalen:
    1- Wrong and I cannot disclose our patents strategy, that is dealt with by a team of attorneys expert of the matter
    2- Intellectual property is a complex issue, not as simple as you represent. Licensing is a complicate issue as well and I cannot give more information about our licensing strategy either at the moment
    3- These are issues whose development is integrated in a complex and wider decisional system
    4- Indipendently from the points 2 & 3, that would be anyway useful, provided it is also integrated in our decisional system
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  363. H-B Branzell

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    The Party from which we are expecting a new report is not the Third in a sequence of Independent Parties.

    It is the second Independent Third Party.

    Kind regards, H-G Branzell

  364. Andrea Rossi

    H-B Branzell:
    Correct, or, to use Giuliano Bettini’s mode, it’s TPR2 ( I understood, anyway, what’s behind your message and I thank you).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  365. DTravchenko

    Thank you for your answer . Please remind that in our Country your E-Cat and your person are strongly appreciated.
    From Russia with love,
    D.T.

  366. Curiosone

    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    Thank you for your lecture about the 4 foundamental forces and the 4 foundamental magnitudes: as always you have been able to explain Physics to not skilled persons.
    Thank you to dedicate your time to us,
    W.G.

  367. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear Andrea Rossi.
    About the PCE 830 in the TPR1.
    Regarding the measurement of P input, there is a eternal and annoying debate.
    Because the involved engineers and technicians are very reputable from both sides of the debate, can you please intercede with the Profs, so that they clarify?
    Thanks,
    Giuliano Bettini.

  368. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    After the 2013 test, the Third Independent Party has made all the measurements of the 2014 test considering all the experience from the work made in 2013.
    We have to wait patiently the results, positive or negative as they might be. I cannot intercede for anything.
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  369. Curiosone

    Dear Readers of the JoNP:
    A theoretical question, from a non physicist: are the 4 foundamental forces the same things as the 4 foundamental magnitudes ? Can anybody explain in simple Language, without mathematics, so that a layman as I am can understand ( like Andrea Rossi made explaining what is a photon )?
    W.G.

  370. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    I try to answer to your quest as simply as possible.
    The 4 foundamental forces are a totally different thing from the 4 foundamental magnitudes.
    The 4 foundamental forces are:
    Strong: strong force is mediated by gluons, which hold together quarks to make protons and neutrons; gluons and quarks are confined inside protons and neutrons by “colours”.
    Electromagnetic: electromagnetic force is mediated by photons, as we have seen in a former comment of mine
    Weak: weak forces are mediated by the gauge bosons W+, W- and Z, which are responsible for the decay of neutron into protons ( easier, since the mass of n is more than the mass of p, so energy is conserved by the emission of anti-neutrinos) and the decay of protons in neutrons ( more difficult, for the same reason: it is possible only in a more complex system of interactions between more particles and the formation of virtual particles that eventually decay into neutrons). W+, W- and Z are the sole elementary particles that change the nature of the particles they interact with.
    Gravitational: gravitational forces are mediated by gravitons: if the Moon orbits around the Earth, this happens because Earth and Moon exchange gravitons.

    The 4 foundamental magnitudes are:
    Rest Mass: m = E/c^2 x square root of (1- v^2/c^2)
    Electric Charge: -1, 0, +1 respectively for electrons, neutrons and neutrinos, protons; -1/3 for down quarks, +2/3 for up quarks
    Spin: spin is the intrinsic angular momentum and its quantum is h/ 4pi, where h is the Plank constant and pi = 3.14; spin is positive if counterclockwise, negative if clockwise
    Magnetic moment: it can be -1, 0 or +1 and its quantum is 9.29 x 10^-24 J/T
    The 4 foundamental magnitudes are conserved: after any interaction, the sum of them must be the same as before the interaction.
    Hope to have been useful,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  371. DTravchenko

    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    Canada, Québec- Edmonton: Enerkem has started up a plant that makes biofuel from organic wastes, with a technolgy derived from your patent of 1978. Are you proud of it? In the meantime, the General of the Guardia di Finanza of Italy ( Google ” Generale Emilio Spaziante arrestato”) who directed from 1989 the fight against you stopping your plants has been arrested for corruption: do you feel vindicated from these two events ?
    From Russia with love,
    D.T.

  372. Andrea Rossi

    D. Travchenko:
    1- About Enerkem: it definitely has utilized my patent of 1978 ( expired in 1998), and I am delighted to see that my work of 35 years ago is generating good results.
    2- About the other issue: please, everybody must understand that a man must be considered innocent, until an irrevocable verdict is issued; the presumption of innocence is a right of everybody. The Guardia di Finanza is a glorious military institution, with about 100 000 military heroes that every day fight honestly and for a modest wage, risking their life to defend Italian economy and the respect of the Law. Any other consideration is useless at this time.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  373. DTravchenko

    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    Do you think that your plants will be installed also in Russia? Do you understand that you have here very high level friends that are following with great attention your work, since 2011, when important scientists of our science Academy have been sent to attend your experiment?
    From Russia with love,
    D.T.

  374. Andrea Rossi

    D. Travchenko:
    Good question. We will put our plants wherever they will be wanted, along the market waves vibrations. Russia is a great Country, with a tremendous potential and we are looking for Russia with extreme interest.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  375. Curiosone

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    We know that the first plants of 1 MW will be made in the USA. Where do you think will be made the following ones outside the USA? Which will be the places you think will be privileged? Can you give a hint of this?
    Thank you for the time you dedicate to us,
    W.G.

  376. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    Sweden: we are making up in Sweden a very strong team of young, aggressive and very well prepared physicists with strong enterpreneurial bases. Sweden is also a logic place for the development of the E-Cat , due to the weather, and the system of distributed heating that is fit for our technology. Obviously we are also looking with deep respect all the other Countries of the world, but you asked me which place will be first: I think Sweden. Also because I want to make the Vasaloppett before getting too old ( he,he,he…).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  377. Andrea Rossi

    Dear Readers:
    Update to your FAQ:
    1- Report: I still do not know when the report will be published, as it is not under my control.
    Remember: the results could be positive or negative.
    If I receive information about publication timeframes, I will share it at that time. Otherwise, for me, it is clearly impossible to share information I do not have.
    2- R&D: we have a robust R&D program, consistent with the expectations of the market. As the chief scientist, I focus on improving the operation of the E-Cat, ensuring quality control, testing and evaluation.
    3- Our Customers: information about our Customers, obviously, is confidential. When visits to a plant operated by a Customer of us in his factory will be ready to be allowed, due information will be given to the accepted Visitors.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  378. Steven N. Karels

    Jaroslaw Bem,

    What’s a factor of 10 among friends? Thanks for the analysis.

  379. Jaroslaw Bem

    Steven N. Karels

    You wrote June 8th 2014 “One gram of converted mass = 2700 MWHrs of energy.” And “If an eCat is run at 10kW average output for one year, about 87 MWhrs of energy would have been produced assuming continuous operation. Therefore, about 0.03 grams of mass would have been consumed.”

    My calculation show that 1 g = 25 GWh energy:
    E = mc^2
    m = 1 g = 0.001 kg
    c = 3 E+8 m/s
    E = 0.001 kg * (3 E+8 m/s)^2 = 9 E+13 J
    To convert energy J (Joule) to GWh :
    1 GWh = 3.6 E+12 J
    Then
    E = 9 E+13 (J) / 3.6 E+12 ( J/GWh) = 25 GWh
    Then
    1 g = 25 GWh

    Follow this: 87 MWh energy produced for one year by ECAT = 0.003 g

    Best regards
    Jaroslaw Bem
    Poland

  380. Steven N. Karels

    eernie1,

    I am not lightly dismissing anti-matter. But I am ignorant of such interactions and thus the possibility. I believe it would be a more difficult explanation for most Physicists to accept it as plausible. But Andrea Rossi need not explain his reaction. Others will probably do that. His is the task of demonstrating positive results through credible and totally independent means. I think he is on the right track, if the results are positive.

  381. eernie1

    Steven,
    I would not dismiss Anti-matter so quickly. Positron emission from reverse Beta decay combining with external electrons to produce Gamma photons has been observed.

  382. Steven N. Karels

    Koen,

    Elegantly written. But all I have is Einstein’s equation and the relationship of generated energy requires an appropriate mass reduction. Nuclear Physics is not my primary expertise. But what I have read and what I understand is that some form of fusion is most likely the mechanism in LENR. There are only a limited number of known fusion reactions and each reaction consumes certain elements and generates new elements or isotopes. Until before and after measurements are made on the fuel, we will be “whistling in the wind”. Anti-matter is my least probable solution. Unless we first discover Klingons, Vulcans and DiLithium crystals (LOL).

  383. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Yes, you have understood: we have to go forward step by step, maintaining solid hold with the soil we are marching through. Otherwise the dream will be destroyed.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  384. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine, Matt Robinson:
    simply delighting.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  385. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Thank you for the useful clarification regarding the 1 MW Plant. The fact that it will be a working E-Cat providing useful energy for someone is important.

    I hope when the time comes, the customer will be able to provide data regarding energy usage, costs, savings, etc. This is very important to people considering adopting a new source of energy.

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  386. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    You are right, I agree.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  387. Joseph Fine

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Matt Robinson wrote a new poem about the E-Cat and the Third Party Independent Tests. Giuliano Bettini and I made some minor contributions to this effort. I didn’t want to risk making further changes to it, so here it is. It was intended to come out before the Independent Report while I wanted it to come out before Friday 13th. I apologize for any grammatical, spelling or alignment errors. Enjoy.

    Poetic regards. ;) -JF

    _____________________________________________

    IN MERCATU VERITAS by Matt Robinson *

    Composed with contingency dependent on the positive outcome of a certain report allegedly being prepared for publication, and a slight nod to T. S. Eliot’s ‘Macavity’

    A word of caution ‘fore you read,
    this is based on supposition
    That certain tests, we hear complete,
    could bolster my position.

    I feel that we are getting near
    the day the news will break
    I’m hoping that it’s positive,
    for all our children’s sake.

    The Rossi Cat ‘s a mystery cat,
    but some have claimed they saw
    The undeniable evidence
    that truth defies the ‘Law’.

    Unmentioned in the media,
    by others ‘t is denied
    But Rossi says, in all due time,
    the people will decide.

    The news that’s been kept hidden from
    the Wall Street’s opening bell
    Is going to be released quite soon,
    Confidently, I foretell.

    But I wish that they would hurry up
    and get the data written
    So then I can prepare my home
    for my new domestic kitten.

    The day is fast approaching when
    to all ‘t will be revealed
    The book of evidence, held ‘loft,
    and publicly unsealed.

    Yet once again we’ll hear the cry,
    ‘A hoax!’-'They all have lied!’
    But now’s the time that truth will out,
    the people will decide.

    So what if Big Financiers plot,
    and try to keep it hidden
    And Big Science and the media
    do whatever they are bidden?

    Well, if it’s mass-produced in China,
    there’ll be a thousand on each tide
    And Rossi says, in all due time,
    the people will decide.

    Health and Safety staff, and Customs men,
    will intercept and frisk her
    They’ll scrutinize the paws and ears,
    and in between each whisker.

    The ones that know, that’s you and I,
    will regard this all as fickle
    For all that they will find inside
    is a small amount of Nickel.

    There’ll be Cats in every quarter,
    from Beijing to Peru
    You’ll even find them purring
    in far off Kathmandu.

    They’ll heat our homes, desalinate,
    and go on to power our flight
    And the people will decide for sure,
    ‘t was Rossi that was right!

    And when she’s all fired up and hot,
    and the steam begins to flow
    ‘Tis then that we can stand up proud,
    and say ‘We told you so’.

    The Rossi cat will shake the world,
    all tests have been applied
    Released unto each continent,
    the market will decide.

    At the closing peal of Wall Street’s bell
    on that day of great renown
    The Bulls and Bears will pull their hair,
    their world turned upside down.

    The Cat becomes a Lion, and
    she’ll stalk the world with pride
    It won’t have taken very long
    for the people to decide.

    We’ll owe him a great indebtitude,
    his name will be revered
    Long after all detractors and
    the snakes have disappeared.

    Our children will be born into
    a future warm and bright
    The mystery? It’s history,
    the E-Cat works, alrrrrright!

    We’re telling you that times have changed,
    the future’s in our hands-
    The wheel has turned full circle,
    the past buried in the sands.

    Empires have all come and gone,
    that’s plain to one who thinks
    Tomorrow has a bright new dawn-
    all thanks to Rossi’s ‘Sphinx’.

    * (with suggestions from Giuliano Bettini and Joseph Fine)

  388. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Certification is but a detail. I dream of eCats and of a Mouse and a Cat and maybe a Tiger or two. I foresee a future with eCat technology everywhere. Where children think we lived in caves before the advent of eCats. How could anyone possibly live without this technology?? — will be the resounding echo throughout the future ages?

    Andrea, my friend, you live in the world of certification, making it work, designing it better, deadlines, budget issues. I fly through the dream world of possibilities, of opportunities, of delight. Mine is a sweeter path then yours, until you make it all work. Then we shall all stand in awe in your presence (LOL). But for right now, today, make it work!

  389. alutam

    Andrea,
    You have previously mentioned smaller e-cat testing. Would a small device the size of a spark plug, hollow in the center and fitted with an injector for water to flash to steam, be a suitable replacement for a spark plug in an internal combustion engine? Just fill the tank with water instead of gas?
    Regards.

  390. Andrea Rossi

    Alutam:
    At the moment it is not feasible.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  391. Koen Vandewalle

    Steven,
    Indeed, E-cat will leave some ash:
    that of burnt critics.

    As for good tradition, their masters will dump that ash somewhere.
    That’s a shame. Some were good looking and eloquent writers.

    About the nuclear ash: the more uncomplete the theories that are written, spread and teached, the more difficult it becomes to link the true parts of them and find truth.
    There seems to exist numerous kinds of Higgs-Bosons. If antimatter can be created in colliders, then this may indicate that matter or antimatter are self-creating. Maybe just as waves, driven from the Higgs Bosons. When matter and antimatter are fused, maybe just the Higgs Bosons are merged, which afterward creates new matter or anti-matter. The resulting structure (proton, neutron, electron or their anti-equivalent) and released energy may depend on the collision parameters, and therefore be as unpredictable as the weather. One could wonder if this also happens in stars. Do we have instruments that can observe the non-creation of anti-matter, or the merging or non-merging of Higgs Bosons in stars ? So how sure can we then be of theories ?
    I really don’t know. Just reading and trying to understand as much as possible, just like you and many others here on JoNP. About what happens in E-cat: Andrea Rossi’s silence is rock solid. Just keep drilling, my friend. The blog of JoNP is thousands of pages long now. It is a goldmine. At least we have that.

    Kind regards,
    Koen

  392. Steven N. Karels

    Using eCat Technology for a Campfire

    Could an eCat reactor be used to replace wood for a typical campground fire?

    Assumptions:
    5 lbs of seasoned wood (20% moisture), lasts 6 hours.
    20MBTUs/cord, 85 lbs/cord

    Energy produced by campfire wood burning = 5 lbs * 20MBTUs/cord * 1 cord/85 lbs = 1.17 MBTUs = 1.234 * 10+9 Joules

    Average Power = 1.234 * 10+9 Joules / 21,600 sec = 5.7 * 10+4 W = 57 kW

    About 5 or 6 eCat 10kW reactors could produce the heat of a typical campfire.

  393. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N.Karels:
    This kind of utilization is not certified for.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  394. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Are you making a brand new 1 MW plant in North Carolina for display — or refurbishing the one you shipped from Italy?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  395. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    It is not a plant for display. It is a plant that will be installed in the factory of a Customer to work and make profit from its work. It is not a test, as made so far. I cannot give more specific information now, I am not allowed to.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  396. LMV

    Hi Andrea
    This is as important as the TIP report
    Can the visitors “kick the wheels ” and check a few things out?

  397. Andrea Rossi

    LMV:
    Every action produces a reaction equal and contrary, as you know: I suggest anybody not to kick anything ( he,he,he). Allowed visitors will have all the possible and due information, but it is not a theater, it is the factory of a Customer.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  398. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    Displaying the 1MW plant will be like the Wright brothers first flights.

  399. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie 1:
    …which have been made in North Carolina!
    Warm Regadrds
    A.R.

  400. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1, Steven N. Karels:
    Obviously we are talking of an industrial 1 MW plant in continuous operation in the factory of a Customer.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  401. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    I know that you and the readers of this site are anxious to find out the date of the TPI report publication. For me, the report would be interesting but my anxiety is directed to the date when your device will be open to public observation. This event does not need any outside reports to achieve your goal for complete conformation of your work. Can you give us a ball park(x months)time that you expect this to happen?

  402. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie 1:
    You are right! We will communicate the date of the opening of the visits in due time: I want not to give now a date, because this topic is very delicate, and if I give a date I must be sure of it. But a date will be given, for sure. I am working now only focused on this !!!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  403. gillana

    Dear A.Rossi
    I can understand your anxiety about the test results after years of work and testing but it is precisely for this reason that I do not understand your uncertainty on the outcome of the same which suggests a lack of confidence in your own creation.
    Maybe it could be a superstitious attitude but could be interpreted as a desire to cover yourself.
    After years of trying, tuning and refinement of your appliance finally you do know it works without the possibility of being denied or be proved wrong , so I would expect a more optimistic attitude in the circumstances.
    Best regards
    Gillana

  404. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Waiting for the results of a independent system test is like waiting for the birth of your first born. Anticipation but worry that everything will turn out okay.

    I know you have done your preparation and validated the eCat before releasing it to the independent professors. But they “might get it wrong” : this is unlikely since there are all of them to cross-check each other and know that they will be criticized if they do something wrong or were fooled. Have confidence in your “new child”, the eCat will do as it is expected to perform, no better, no worse. Patience is a hard thing to learn, especially quickly (LOL).

  405. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    I agree with you.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  406. Andrea Rossi

    Billy Jackson, Frank Acland:
    Thank you. I am really grateful for these encouraging words.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  407. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    The following was posted on E-Cat World today by Billy Jackson, and since it was addressed to you, I repost it here with his permission.

    Re: Andrea Rossi’s Anxiety over Test results:

    Absolutely understandable. You would have to be inhuman to not have anxiety for what Rossi is waiting on.

    This is more than a proof of concept, or even validation. This is the culmination of a world changing life’s work by Rossi that will affect every facet of our world that uses energy. For Rossi himself you’re talking about a man who has struggled in past endeavors and is on the verge of going from obscurity to possibly a household name alongside that of Edison, Tesla, or Einstein.

    This is not a small accomplishment by any means. if the E-cat works and the validation is there.. .the impact this will have on the world and the human race can’t be understated. After this it will just be more and better efficiencies, while possibly shrinking the technology. It won’t happen fast and overnight, but it will happen. Sheer market forces alone will push this technology out to the public and industries.

    Mr Rossi — this is your baby . . . and like any father in the waiting room will tell you … when you hear that first cry … even if its behind closed doors…there is no other feeling like it… Stand Strong we are all waiting with you in support! Thanks for having the courage to challenge what we believe in.

  408. orsobubu

    Continuum Discretum, thanks for the corrections, I’ve definitely had a lesson in philosophy. Probably I should better be writing in more colloquial style for the future. Obviously I was wrong to express myself, also in the content. The terrorist is clearly materialistic, and is a derived ideology from bourgeoise class. The fathers of italian homeland, in their democratic struggle against old democratic regimes in nineteenth century, Mazzini above all, were among the ideologues of the terrorist form of political action. However, I consider to have been quite successful, for now, only to have two sentences criticized by those who are able to study the Phenomenology. I’d like to continue and possibly be criticized moreover by you via private email, if you agree. To return to the issue of cultural matrix in Communist and Catholic terrorism of the 70s in Italy, I’ll only note that the first were inspired by marxism, then betrayed it by their actions, as it is clear from your examplar definitions of materialism and dialectics. I have direct knowledge of the environment from which those who have recently attacked Rossi come, despite they not having had anything to do with acts of political violence, of course. With regard to the violence of Catholic inspiration, it has been present in Italy at that time (and before!) and that makes me conclude that neither idealism, in this case the belief in a god, is a guarantee of scientific and non-violent behavior. I have personally known quite materialistic atheists who given great contribution to the development of science (even Einstein perhaps was not an atheist, but was not provided with faith either, may be call him a spinozian?) and, on the other hand, men of faith who know everything about Thomas Aquinas but are quite unable to accept Kant critics, and probably would favor a return to an obscurantist era. I consider myself a dialectic materialist, I have ideals of course but I’m not an idealist, nor metaphysical, neither reactionary nor dialectical. I think that marxism is the only scientific interpretation of the world, able to realize a future without reactionary violence and inspired by scientific criteria of social progress.

  409. Daniel De Caluwé

    @Continuum Discretum,

    Thank you for your very interesting message.

    The ‘cute, white, living rabbit that comes out of a worn out, filthy hat’, is the synthesis (or new knowledge or consciousness), as the outcome of the conflict between thesis and anti-thesis, isn’t it? The theosofy of Alice Bailey and Benjamin Creme also know this dialectics as the fundamental soul-ray of humanity (as a whole), called the 4th ray of ‘harmony through conflict’, that also explains the history of humanity… And it’s also interesting to know that, according to Benjamin Creme, Hegel, who developed the concept of dialectics, had a 4th ray soul… So yes, humanity and its science evolve in a dialectic way, also demonstrated on this forum, and hopefully ‘pulling a cute, white, living rabbit out of a worn out, filthy hat’ on every turn… ;-)

  410. LMV

    Hi Andrea,

    Is the Rossi effect associated with Quantum Tunneling?

  411. Andrea Rossi

    LMV:
    I cannot give information regarding how the reactor works, so far.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  412. Continuum Discretum

    Dear orsobubu,
    I have to correct your wrong usage of the term “idealism” in following sentences:

    “This idealism, deeply opposed to marxist materialism, was also typical of an italian catholic vision from which other terrorist groups came, also inspired by a sort of divine mission of social justice.”
    [...]
    “So, the violent anti-Rossi crusade of some journalists comes from a violent, idealist background typical of the 70s and ends today with fundamentalist idealism of official and ‘good’ leftist science.”

    This mistake could be excused if it was written in colloquial language (“idealism” as a mere ethical stance), but since your diction suggests some sort of scientific reflection, it has to be corrected. Not only is “idealism” an inappropriate term concerning the form of expression, but on top of that – concerning the content – actually the opposite is true: The – materialistic – aspect of Dialectic Materialism is the culprit for the anarchic and terroristic aberrations of some parts of 20th century leftist “culture”.
    As everywhere we see right here how Dialectics evolves and turns opposites into each other. The term “dialectic” in “Dialectic Materialism” is a remnant of the Idealism of Hegel: Marx was his scholar (in mind) and his theories are deeply grounded in Hegel’s idealistic analysis of the structures of physical and social reality. Only because of the acceptance of some eternal structure of matter, Marx was able to work on the concept of “law of history”. If he would have been only a materialist, then there would be no necessity for restrictions on how society could govern its own fate, and he would have advocated instant anarchic revolution without reflection on historic conditions.
    Yet again Dialectic shows its omnipresent force: Materialism could be interpretated as total determinism, so that everything is subjected to the laws of matter. In such a context it would be “idealistic” to believe in free will and the possibility to change and write history.
    The solution to this seeming paradox is Dialectics itself: There is no materialism without Idealism. We could even say, that there is no Idealism without materialism, but that would be confusing. More accurate is: There is no Idealism without matter. Because materialism is not able to reflect on Weltanschauungen / not able to describe mental standpoints with its pure materialistic terms, it is not able to encompass neither Idealism, nor itself as a stance of mind. Idealism on the other hand is not only able to include the (mental) form of materialism, but on top of that even able to deduce its content (the structure of matter) and make its principles fundamental part of its own corpus.
    That’s the reason why Hegel was able to anticipate advances in Theoretical Physics of 20th century.
    Why unidealistic pseudo-scientists fail to improve our knowledge of the universe.
    And why a philosopher inspired by God like Andrea Rossi has to do their job.
    The answer to the questions of science lies in the diligent study of Dialectics, compared to which the theory of general relativity reads like bedtime reading. To those without knowledge of the Idea, the elucidation of its process appears like the mysterious act of pulling a cute, white, living rabbit out of a worn out, filthy hat.

  413. Steven N. Karels

    orsobubu,

    I would love to work with Andrea Rossi’s team. But being added to an existing team would be very difficult and perhaps, non-productive. Though, I would find it fascinating.

    A more realistic hope might be working for Andrea Rossi in applications and technical support of sales sometime in the near future. That would be a dream job.

    But for now, if I could intermittently add some insight to Andrea Rossi, let him know what we are thinking and reacting to the announcements and posting as the eCat story is told and be supportive of his work, that for me will be sufficent.

    This product has the potential of a major shift in energy production, if it is true. We must always maintain a neutral perspective and we must not fall into blind obdience or faith.

  414. Steven N. Karels

    Koen,

    One gram of converted mass = 2700 MWHrs of energy. Known nuclear reactions convert some form of material into another form of material with some loss of mass (converted to energy). The resultant material has been called “nuclear ash” and is telltale as to which reaction is happening.

    Unless this is a matter & anti-matter operation, there should be some “nuclear ash”. However, the amount of “nuclear ash” may be very small.

    If an eCat is run at 10kW average output for one year, about 87 MWhrs of energy would have been produced assuming continuous operation. Therefore, about 0.03 grams of mass would have been consumed. The amount of mass compared to the mass of an eCat (kilograms) would be very difficult to measure. By analyzing the spent fuel, it may be possible to deduce the “nuclear ash” unless it escapes into the test environment (e.g., helium). The lack of a “nuclear ash” is troubling as it should be observable in grams of material (unless it escaped).

  415. Koen Vandewalle

    Steven,
    Why must there be ash?
    I think there is no ash.

    Kind regards,
    Koen

  416. orsobubu

    Steven Karels,

    nobody here is more qualified than you in understanding these mysterious issues.
    I remember months ago you had done the calculations to guess the average COP of a Cat reactor and Mouse activator combo system. Now what are your best up-to-date estimates? For an expert in thermal engineering like you, and this is true for other visitors of JONP, wouldn’t be fantastic to be able to work directly together with Rossi’s team? This is something that I’ve always wondered.

  417. Alessandro Coppi

    Hi Andrea, in your feeling, how much time left from the D day? I want to start a countdown of the days, can I start by 10?

    Radiosa aurora!

    Alessandro Coppi

  418. Andrea Rossi

    Alessandro Coppi:
    I have no idea.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  419. Hello Andrea,

    As you wait for the group of professors to grade the final exam :-) , it is great again to remember and celebrate your own birthday, (which recently snuck by).

    Here is another short clip from the collection of interviews you gave last year:

    http://vimeo.com/97480659

    Enjoy these wonderful times.

    -thomas

  420. Andrea Rossi

    Thomas Florek:
    Very funny, thank you,
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  421. Giuliano Bettini

    Caro Andrea Rossi,
    lei parla giustamente di “ansietà”.
    E’ vero, ma le motivazioni possono essere le più varie.
    Per quanto mi riguarda, non lo dico su Facebook perché i miei amici Joseph Fine, Don Witcher eccetera eccetera non approverebbero, io sono totalmente disinteressato ai successi commerciali a breve termine e anche al “mercatu veritas”. Mi interessa l’ingegneria ma meglio ancora la Fisica. Ciò che penso sia importante è aver scoperto qualcosa di veramente nuovo, in Fisica. Con tutte le conseguenze che ci possiamo immaginare.
    Quindi, tutto sommato, la cosa che mi lascia più perplesso è questa SUA ansietà, rispetto al “positive or negative”. Posso capire, o intuire, le ragioni più svariate, per chi ci ha dedicato tanto della propria vita. Non capisco invece i dettagli. Cerco di spiegarmi in sintesi, anche se con parole che mi scuso se imprecise. “Positive or negative” CHE COSA?
    1 E’ il timore che dei test negativi vanifichino tutto il lavoro fatto da una vita su un prodotto?
    oppure
    2 è il timore che dei testi terzi, accurati, dimostrino infine che c’era un malinteso e tutto quanto è stato un’illusione?
    Mentre 1 non mi interessa, invece 2 mi rende ansioso. I ragazzi degli acceleratori hanno continuato a studiare la Fisica sbattendo particelle le une sulle altre, qui invece si aprirebbe un capitolo del tutto nuovo. Anzi un libro del tutto nuovo.
    ………
    Vabbè, comunque sia
    ad maiora
    Giuliano Bettini.

    Dear Andrea,
    you refer to “anxiety.”
    It ‘s true, but the reasons can be varied.
    As for me, I do not say so on Facebook because my friends Joseph Fine, Don Witcher et cetera would not approve, I’m totally uninterested in commercial success in the short term and also to the ” In Mercatu Veritas”. I’m interested in engineering, but even better in Physics. What I think is important is to have discovered something new, in Physics. With all the consequences that we can imagine.
    So, all in all, the thing that leaves me puzzled is YOUR anxiety, regarding to the “positive or negative”. I can understand, or guess, the most different reasons, for those who have dedicated so much of their lives. I do not understand the details instead. I try to explain in a nutshell, albeit with words that I apologize if inaccurate. “Positive or Negative” WHAT?
    1 Is it the fear of negative tests that undermine all the work done by a life of a product?
    or
    2 Is it a fear that “third” texts, accurate, finally prove that there was a misunderstanding and everything was an illusion?
    While I do not care 1, 2 instead makes me anxious. The “accelerators guys” are continuing to study the Standard Model crashing particles , but here it would open a whole new chapter. In fact a whole new book.
    ………
    Oh well, anyway
    ad maiora
    Giuliano Bettini.

  422. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    1- no, it is not
    2- no, it is not either
    The anxiety is generated by the immense importance of a test made by a third independent party of experts of the field, in a neutral laboratory, for a long time, collecting millions of data examined for months, analyzed in independent laboratories of different Universities, for the first time in the history of LENR. Let me make a simple example: you have to sustain an exam , a difficult one, in a University’s Faculty; you have studied well, you made tests by yourself, you are sure to have understood the matter, but the exam is long and the result of the exam will be important for your future career: shouldn’t you be anxious? That’s my feeling, aggravated from the fact that I have not a clue of when there will be the results and I have not a clue either about the work that the Professors are doing.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  423. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Thank you, interesting.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  424. Curiosone

    Dear Dr Rossi:
    Thank you, very good definition in 12 words!
    You made simple a complicated concept, as you made for the photon some day ago. You have this characteristic, to make simple complicated things. Maybe this is your gift, at the base of your inventions.
    God bless you,
    W.G.

  425. Joseph Fine

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Below is a link to an article from eurekalert on the synthesis of Nickel Carbon Fullerenes. The lead author (‘Andrey Popov’) is not sure of the practical applications of this new structure.
    Maybe you will find a new use for this in your work.

    http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-06/miop-mon060614.php

    Nickel-Fullerene regards,

    Method of nickel-carbon heterofullerenes synthesis presented

    Russian, British and Spanish scientists presented a new method of nickel-carbon heterofullerenes synthesis

    Scientists from several British, Spanish and Russian research centers (MIPT, Institute for Spectroscopy RAS, Kurchatov Institute and Kintech Lab Ltd) have come up with a method of synthesizing a new type of nickel-carbon compound. The article titled Formation of nickel-carbon heterofullerenes under electron irradiation has been published by Dalton Transactions and is available as a pre-print at arxiv.org. The first author of the article is Alexander Sinitsa, an MIPT student, and the leading author is Andrey Popov (Institute for Spectroscopy RAS, 1989 MIPT graduate).

    Heterofullerenes are hollow molecules with a nearly-spherical shape, which, unlike the typical fullerenes, contain atoms of elements other than carbon. Such compounds were synthesized quite a while ago, in 1991, but till now no heterofullerenes containing nickel, or any other transition metal, have been obtained. Yet, as the authors point out in their article, transition metals are now being studied as catalysts in the synthesis of carbon nanotubes and graphene.

    “I’d like to emphasize that the majority of calculations have been performed by a student. Hopefully, students regularly visit the MIPT site and get inspired by their colleagues’ successes. If you are especially interested in the role of MIPT graduates in research, then I can tell you that Irina Lebedeva graduated from the Institute in 2008, and Andrey Knizhnik, perhaps in 1999, but I’m not exactly sure about the year. I’d also like to point out that Elena Bichoutskaia (a Saint Petersburg State University Faculty of Physics graduate) is a member of the Russian diaspora abroad, which is typical of international cooperation of Russian scientists,” Andrey Popov told the MIPT Press Service.

    The synthesis of nickel heterofullerenes is supposed to be carried out under electron irradiation, which is used in high-resolution transmission electron microscopy (HRTEM) in order to obtain detailed snapshots showing, if needed, separate atoms. A number of previous experiments conducted by various research groups demonstrated that electronic irradiation can also be applied to synthesize a variety of nanostructures, e.g., one-layer carbon fullerene-filled nanotubes were transformed into two-layer ones.

    Using the latest data obtained from the HRTEM images and the results of computer modelling by methods of molecular dynamics, the scientists have shown the potential possibility to transform graphene flakes with nickel cluster into nickel-carbon heterofullerene.

    The scientists, though, are not sure about the practical application of such heterofullerenes. According to Andrey Popov, “these new-type molecules can reveal some interesting electronic, magnetic, and optic features, or it may be possible to combine them with some organic functional complexes of interest to biologists and physicians. They can also be used to create 3D organic-metallic structures to store hydrogen”.

    In their work, the researchers developed and applied an authentic algorithm for modelling electron-nanostructure interactions. This allows taking into account both fast (just tens of picoseconds) and slow (lasting for full seconds) processes. The fast processes are associated with electron collisions, and the slow ones relate to molecular relaxation.

  426. Wladimir Guglinski

    Upcoming two books by W. Guglinski:

    1) The Evolution of Physics – from Newton to Rossi’s eCat

    2) The Missed U-Turn – the duel Heisenberg vs Schrödinger

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    ——————————————————–
    From: Wladimir
    To: “psomani1@yahoo.com”
    Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 5:25 PM
    Subject: submission book: THE MISSED U-TURN

    Applied Science Innovations
    The Director (Publishing Department)
    APPLIED SCIENCE INNOVATIONS PRIVATE LIMITED

    Dear Editor

    I am the author of the book Quantum Ring Theory, published in 2006 in a book form by the Bauu Instute Press.

    http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/quantum-ring-theory-wladimir-guglinski/1100923587?ean=9780972134941

    I would like to submit for publication my book THE MISSED U-TURN , in which it is explained for the laymen the foundations and models proposed in my Quantum Ring Theory,

    In 2011 two important experiments had been published, and they defy some foundations of the current Theoretical Physics.

    In order to explain those two experiments, the journal Nature published in 2012 the paper How Atomic Nuclei Cluster and the European Physical Journal D published in 2013 the paper The quantum vacuum as the origin of the speed of light.

    The results of the two experiments had been predicted in my book Quantum Ring Theory. And the journal Nature published an argument proposed in the page 137 of my book, while in the paper published by the European Physical Journal it is proposed a structure for the space which is the same structure proposed in my book.

    So, the journals Nature and European Physical Journal published plagiarisms of some ideas proposed in my book.

    And in 2013 the journal Nature published the paper Studies of pear-shaped nuclei using accelerated radioactive beams, describing the anomalous shape of the nucleus Ra224. In order to explain that anomally, the Prof. Butler of the Liverpool University had proposed the existence of an z-axis within the nuclei.

    The existence of the z-axis had been predicted in my Quantum Ring Theory, and it is mentioned in several pages of my book. In the page 133 it is written:

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    The distribution about the z-axis is a nuclear property up to now unknown in Nuclear Physics
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    I am sending an attachment where I explain with details the plagiarisms by Nature and European Physical Journal D.

    More about the book
    THE MISSED U-TURN
    can be seen in this link:

    Unsolved Modern Physics puzzles solved in Quantum Ring Theory
    http://zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3526

    Regards
    Wladimir Guglinski
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    ——————————————————–
    Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 07:51:43 -0700
    From: psomani1@yahoo.com
    Subject: Re: submission book: THE MISSED U-TURN
    To: wladimirguglinski@hotmail.com
    CC: pssomani@yahoo.com

    Respected Sir,

    Thank you very much for your e-mail and interest to collaborate with us.

    We will be honored to publish your book. Since our company is a small company and considering the high quality of your book, it can be published as an OPEN ACCESS BOOK so as to reach to maximum audience without restriction. This can also serve as a proof to your proposals / theory and predictions. However, due to small size of our company, we may not be able to offer you any honorarium for the same. We would like to undertake publishing of your book.

    I look forward for your reply .

    With best regards and highest respects.

    Prakash Somani

    Dr. Prakash R. Somani
    UN-ICTP-Fellow, JSPS-Fellow (JAPAN),
    Editor – Carbon Science and Technology (ASIPL)
    Editorial Board Member – Nanoscience and Nanotechnology,
    ISRN-Spectroscopy, Sensors and Transducers Journal (1995 – 2012).

    Former Faculty : C-MET, Pune; JIIT, Noida (Jaypee University); BITS-pilani, INDIA.
    Adjunct Faculty – Department of Physics, Banasthali University, Rajasthan, India.
    Founder and Research Director
    Applied Science Innovations Private Limited (ASIPL),
    Vijaynagar, Building No. 3, 4th Floor, B-14,
    Dhayari, Near Dharashwar Mandir, Sinhagad Road,
    Pune – 411041, Maharashtra, INDIA.

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    From: wladimirguglinski@hotmail.com
    To: psomani1@yahoo.com
    CC: ver@cisp-publishing.com
    Subject: RE: Book
    Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 12:16:51 -0300

    Dear Dr. Prakash Somani

    I decided to publish the book with your publishing house

    I dont care about to make money. So, I let you the decision for the format of publication. I also think that the most interested format is the open acess format, in order to get the larger audience possible.

    I will send an email to Victor Riecansky, telling him that, since the Cambridge International Science Publishing did not publish the book in the time accorded in the Aggreement, then I am giving up of publishing the book by CISP, because the book will be published by your publishing house.
    I will send the email with a copy to you

    Therefore, I will sign the Transfer of Copyright Aggreement with your publishing house.

    I am sending a copy of this email for Victor Riecansky.

    regards
    Wladimir Guglinski
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    Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 21:50:08 -0700
    From: psomani1@yahoo.com
    Subject: Re: Agreement of the book THE MISSED U-TURN
    To: wladimirguglinski@hotmail.com

    Dear Sir,
    Good Day. We estimated the cost of publishing your book which is as following –

    (a) only open access publishing as a PDF file on the web site and maintaining it for about 10 years – US $ 4000/-

    (b) Open Access Publishing + Print Copies (500) – US $ 5000/-

    (c) Only Print copies (500) – US $ 4000/-

    I am interested to know if you can contribute (at least partially) towards this cost. It is no way compulsion. However, since ours is a small company, it will help.
    We will go for the first option of Open Access publishing.

    With best regards
    Prakash Somani
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    From: wladimirguglinski@hotmail.com
    To: psomani1@yahoo.com
    Subject: RE: Agreement of the book THE MISSED U-TURN
    Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 22:12:28 -0300

    Dear Dr. Prakash

    It is hard for me to contribute for the publication.

    Besides, there is other reason why I cannot contribute, as I explain as follows

    When an author has a bad theory with no scientific merit, and he wants to publish her, he needs to pay for the publication, since his theory is bad.

    I never paid a cent for publication of my theory. Because I always had started from the following viewpoint: if the theory has no scientific merit, she does not deserve to be published. And so it makes no sense to pay for her publication.

    I never used to help my theory by contributing with money for her publication. I left to herself the task to conquest her own publication. If she had no scientific merit, then she would not deserve to be published.
    My theory is being successful in getting by herself her own publication, thanks to her scientific merit, since many of her predictions are being confirmed by several experiments along the years. And in 2012 and 2013 she had been even plagiarized by two of the most important worldwide scientific journals.

    If I had payed to publish my theory , my oponents would claim that she has no scientific merit, saying that the reason why I had to pay for her publication was the missing of merit of the theory.

    And I would like to keep the pride of to say that I had never paid a cent for the publication of my theory.

    I hope you may understand my reasons

    regards
    Wladimir Guginski
    ——————————————————–

    .

    ——————————————————–
    Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 18:40:38 -0700
    From: psomani1@yahoo.com
    Subject: Re: Agreement of the book THE MISSED U-TURN
    To: wladimirguglinski@hotmail.com

    Dear Sir,
    No issues. We are going ahead for publication of your books.
    I should contact you with the final typeset draft till 15 – 20 June.

    With best regards
    Prakash Somani
    ——————————————————–

  427. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Good luck for your books!
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  428. Steven N. Karels

    orsobubu,

    I still have issues with the Rossi effect. Based on previous postings, it is as though no “nuclear ash” is observed. I assume Andrea Rossi has either not seen it (e.g., it may have escaped the test apparatus during long tests) or it may be that he has observed something but identifying would endanger his intellectual property rights or the duration and power output (i.e., the total energy produced) has been insufficient to produce significant amounts of “nuclear ash”.

    I also have problems understanding the eCat control mechanisms. Heat and “vibrations” are described along with “other” effects. But running in self-sustaining mode seems to me like it would be out-of-control but this does not appear to be the case so some other mechanism must be in place during self-sustaining mode to keep it from running away.

    So what we (the supporters but uninformed of the Rossi secrets) see is a potential energy device that is clean and low cost. But most scientists and engineers are lead to believe the LENR is “pseudo-science” and automatically dismiss it as measurement error or the work of a con-man. To this end, I think Andrea Rossi has chosen the most effective path – demonstrate the technology where there can be no chemically based explanation. Don’t publish the theory, let others try to explain the independently measured results. Hopefully, the independent researchers will have done their homework and have a bulletproof analysis and report.

  429. orsobubu

    Steven Karels, Hank Mills,

    I will try to explain some aspects of these attacks, at least for what concerns the Italian side. It is true that scientific evidence and the market will lead to the truth; but I believe that these characters are not actually much driven by an inability to scientific analysis, irrationality, hatred, jealousy, hostility, etc., but in a way that they are really idealistically “sincere” and “honest” in their actions. In the sense that they really believe they are right and they were invested with the task of leading a crusade in the name of science.

    Their cultural backgrounds is absolutely on the left side, and refers to the italian marxist culture in the 70s. Of course, there is nothing farther from the truth of their interpretation of marxism, so that one could apply to their case the famous phrase by Marx himself: If this is marxism, I am not a marxist. For a true dialectical materialist, the strength of technological, economic, social development, in a word the structure of the production relationships, is so dominant that it drags with it any superstructural ideology, moral, law, politics, religion, science, etc.

    The direction of this development tends inexorably to the maximum socialization of the means of production and, ultimately, toward anarchy and true freedom of man. The opposition the capitalist ruling class is trying to do in this process is not only obvious, but it is even Marxist, in the sense that it is a reactionary struggle necessary for the development of revolutionary working class consciousness. In this struggle, the wealth that will be destroyed by capitalism will be so great and the conditions under which the society will plummet so miserable that just a small, bloodless shove will be needed by a minority of organized workers to dialectically seize the power and finally start a new economy without money, without exploitation, based on limitless energy and automation.

    To the contrary, in the head of many italian “marxists” in the seventies, the intellectual must take a revolutionary, violent action, even by terrorism, a kind of superhero delirium, to show the ignorant people who the enemy is and to provoke an insurrection even if the historical moment is anything but the right one and actually people just try to stay better within the existing capitalist relationships. This idealism, deeply opposed to marxist materialism, was also typical of an italian catholic vision from which other terrorist groups came, also inspired by a sort of divine mission of social justice. Part of these intellectuals now attacking Rossi comes exactly from these cultures.

    After the failure of their attempts over the 70s and 80s, after the resumption of liberalism by Reagan and the fall of USSR (which they interpreted as the home of communism rather than as state capitalism), a part of them went directly to the service of capitalists in exchange for a rapid career; others retreated to more reformist themes, such as environmentalism, trade unionism, labor rights, the defense of immigrants, etc. Some results of this transformation were paradoxical, if you think about the origins of Marxism, which pursued the maximum production and absence of the capitalist crisis and wars, because led to believe in pauperism (equal poverty for everyone), to sustain the good, social, state capitalism, to the defense of the strict application of the bourgeois laws, etc, on the assumption that european capitalism can be a benign, humane and progressive, as opposed to the bad American liberal imperialism.

    So, the violent anti-Rossi crusade of some journalists comes from a violent, idealist background typical of the 70s and ends today with fundamentalist idealism of official and “good” leftist science. They forget that the origin of the problem lies in the social mechanism of exploitation that produces the money itself, believing instead that there is bad money made from the scam and theft, and good money produced in an ethical and humane system. In this sense I believe that they feel genuinely and sincerely invested in the moral authority to violently attack their enemies, even if it may end up being an instrument of some capitalistic camps and interests.

    You can read about other victims of theirs here:

    http://tinyurl.com/otsfg2w

  430. Andrea Rossi

    Orsobubu:
    Thank you for your permanent insight,
    Warm regards
    Andrea

  431. Curiosone

    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    To understand quantum mechanics is very difficult. Are you able to define quantum mechanics in less than 15 words?
    God bless you for your job,
    W.G.

  432. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    I propose this:
    All particles in the Standard Model are vibrating waves in particular fields.
    12 words in all.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  433. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    During your early experiments with nickel and various materials as a “catalyst”:

    1. Did you ever experiment with other materials than nickel, such as palladium?

    2. Did you ever try deuterium gas other than what is in natural hydrogen gas?

    3. Did you find several materials that acted as a catalyst?

  434. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    1- yes
    2- yes
    3- yes
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  435. Koen Vandewalle

    JoNP, Andrea Rossi, Magnus Holm,
    Does your computer model allow to explain the Rossi-Effect ?
    Not necessarily in quantities or energy out vs energy in, but the basic principles.

    The experimental evidence, derived from the TIP report of 2013, which is the real world event and generates the pathway to the development of usefull devices, does not explain very much about how LENR works.
    It learns that “this device” can produce Y kWh output for X kWh input, depending on a group of parameters.
    I can imagine that the nuclear scientists are doing measurements on the gamma radiations. It was mentioned that gammas in the range of tens of keV are produced while the E-cat operates.
    I find it disturbing that the critics talk so much about peripherals as: who paid for the travel expenses and the catering, and the authority or non-authority of observers, and nothing about the proven Gammas, which can only be produced by this new kind of reaction. If you only produce “one” gamma of this energy, then the reality of the effect is proven. Please correct me if this is a erroneous view.

    Of course, the economic viability depends on the whole technology that you and your team are developing and improving right now.

    We do not need the opinion of the last Roman Emperor on the use of smartphones, firearms and aircraft in 2015, although he was allways officially right in his age.

    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  436. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    Sorry, we cannot give information about this issue; besides, we do not know at all which kind of analysis the Professors of the Third Independent Party are doing.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  437. DTravchenko

    Dr Rossi:
    we read your comment saying not to insult your enemies: you are a giant.
    From Russia, with love,
    DT

  438. Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in June 3rd, 2014 at 8:17 PM

    Herb Gillis:
    What inspired me to begin, to be honest and sincere, has been the work of Prof Fleishmann and Prof Pons when it has been announced the first time. This is a merit they deserve, even if the electrolysis concept was, and still is, wrong. The electrolysis brings nowhere. Obviously, this is only my opinion and, as such, can be wrong.
    —————————————-

    Dear Andrea
    I suppose what you said is concerning the technological feasibility, since it is hard to replicate the cold fusion experiments made via electrolysis, and so it is hard to develop a technology viable to be placed in market.

    As I also suppose that you are agree that Fleishmann and Pons did succeed to get anomalous heat

    regards
    wlad

  439. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    I suppose that F&P were sincerely and honestly convinced of what they said.
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  440. Hank Mills

    Hello Andrea,

    I understand the hate you are experiencing from some parties, although I totally disagree with them. For example, in one case they can barely admit to themselves, or others, that your technology is real. They state that if it really does work how it has been described, it is beyond what they hoped could be achieved with LENR in todays age. They go so far to say it would be a near energy panacea. At the same time, they act extremely hostile because they can’t believe you are the individual to develop this technology. They criticise and attack your research and test methods and bash your character. I think most of this hostility comes from jealousy. They did not develop the tech, cannot latch onto it some how, and have been unsuccessful at copying it themselves. This infuriates them.

  441. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    Thank you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  442. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiments. I have found that my most hardened critics can become strong allies as time passes and you demonstrate that which they oppose, provided you do not insult or injure them. Not only have we all made mistakes, but more than likely we have been on the wrong side of a disagreement. I do not understand the animosity regarding LENR. It seems to me, like any question of science, the evidence will lead to truth, one way or the other. I do see the possibility that fear of LENR, in that it might change the economics, can bring out the base elements of a human, to his or her loss of reason and objectivity. Fear is a strong emotion, yet as thinking humans, we can overcome that fear with reason.

  443. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Maybe you are not wrong.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  444. Andrea Rossi

    Walter Gentili:
    I did not publish your comment because it insults 3 journalists. I cannot accept insults, even if aimed to my “critics”. As Oscar Wilde said, “I do not agree with them, but I will fight to death to defend their freedom of opinion”. As a matter of fact, it is normal that we have enemies, competitors, critics. What I do not understand is hatred and insults. We are making a scientific work, our work has been tested and is still under exam and R&D and we are waiting for the results, that could be positive or negative, as I always said. All the rest is useless noise and I am exclusively focused on my job, now on the 1 MW plant: if it will work well, we will have a good product, otherwise we will have not. Both possibilities are true. About my past, let me be simple:
    1- I have been acquitted from the accusations that made possible my arrest: see http://www.ingandrearossi.com
    2- indipendently from the point 1: every man who has made mistakes in his past, after he has paid his debt with the justice has the right to be resilient and make up his life. I am working on the LENR now and the facts for which I have been put in jail happened between 1989 and 1995: 20 years ago and have nothing to do with LENR
    3- who is without sin can throw the first stone
    Please do not insult my enemies: we must not make their same errors.
    Warm Regards,
    Andrea Rossi

  445. Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Andrea,
    after 65 rounds, it might become time to teach. We do not know how much time is left.
    If your insights and experience allowed you to create this kind of technology, then the way you see and understand the universe and the matter, must be very inspiring for new generations. This force of inspiration and ideas is allways bound to living persons. Books can contain information, but they cannot create nor invent, and are often misunderstood without the possibility for them to correct the errors that their readers make.

    I really hope that there will be possibilities for very small businesses or even individuals to build ecat based devices for themselves, as many people of the world may not have access to the products that are made in a global market system. When important parts of the economy are collapsing in a region, then sometimes industries do disappear in that region. Especially the big and complex ones that need huge production numbers to be profitable.

    In times of recession and collapse, whatever the reason for that may be, we need more small and diverse production systems to survive. They are less efficient, and therefor not competitive in a globalizing economy, but they can better handle all sorts of fluctuations. Devastating events don’t eliminate them all.

    I read that you learnt a lot of things in your fathers’ steel carpentry. Not many of the new generations in EU have the chances to learn from their parents’ workshops. My grandfather was a farmer. On his farm I learnt hundreds of practical things and insights. Nowadays, these small farms don’t exist anymore. They were outcompeted. Some of my own children know very well tapping on their tablet computers, but they don’t have the touch with the real physics. They don’t even know how to start a campfire.

    So having facilities to produce things at home or in the vicinity is important to keep the humans strong and creative.
    I hope that your technology allows to support this.

    Best Regards,
    Koen

  446. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    Useful insight.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  447. I’ve uploaded a short interview clip with Andrea Rossi. It is in honor of his special day (and many more special days to come).

    http://vimeo.com/97480659

  448. Andrea Rossi

    Thomas Florek:
    Thank you for your work.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  449. Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi, I don’t know if this link will work.
    But if it does, you will know what plans Countries around the World have for Wind Energy from now until 2050.
    Their plans are huge.
    However, when E-Cat comes on the scene they will have
    serious competition.

    https:blu180.mail.live.com/default.aspx?n=627111407&fid=1#tid=cm5jO-dsDs4xGPqwAhWthXRA2&fid=flinbox

    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA

  450. Andrea Rossi

    Robert Curto:
    Thank you for the info.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  451. georgehants

    Dear Mr Rossi, just silly English humour about, I believe your report will be very positive, (although it could be negative).
    I give Spiritual prayers that it is positive, as your work has the potential to change the World forever.
    As long as those in power allow it’s free path to a Wonderful equality for all mankind.
    Best Wishes
    George

  452. Andrea Rossi

    Georgehants:
    Thank you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  453. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear Andrea,
    thanks for the kind response. I wonder (irrespective from the 3rd party analysis):
    surely you have done your measurements after a few Hot Cat long run test. Do you sometimes find some change in the isotopic composition?
    (I mean: you and/or your team).
    How would Joseph Fine, isotopic regards,
    Giuliano Bettini.

  454. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    What I found in my experiments does not matter. Anybody can say ” I have found the moon in the well”. Let’s wait for the results of the report of the Professors of the Third Independent Party. I know they are making rigorous, long and difficult analysis in their Swedish laboratories of different Institutes, because, they told me, no one University has all the necessary instrumentation, so they need the help of different laboratories and this takes time. Let them work in peace. We have to be patient; I understand, and sympathize, the anxiety of the public about this issue, but think to my own anxiety…if I can menage it, I think everybody can. Think what will happen to me should the results be negative…still a possible output, though, as far as I know.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  455. georgehants

    Dear Mr. Rossi, good advice, but if I had lost you must remember I was referring to New Taiwan Dollars at an exchange rate of 50 to one English pound.
    I bet I would have won though.
    Best wishes.

  456. Andrea Rossi

    Georgehants:
    …I wish I had understood!
    A.R.

  457. paul d kendall

    Dear Dr Rossi:
    I LOVE WHAT YOU ARE DOING… CHANGING THE WORLD – ENERGY, AH, THE STUFF DREAMS ARE MADE OF ! ( AND GOD – the source of all states of being/life – OF COURSE )
    What is your thinking on what NI – National Instruments ceo Jame Truchard requested ? That this new fusion be called or refered to as “The Quantum Reactor”
    (quantumreactor@gmail.com — I just created this email site..paul)

  458. Andrea Rossi

    Paul D. Kendall:
    Interesting.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  459. georgehants

    Dear Mr. Rossi, would you take a bet with me for $100 and I will offer you odds of 5/1 that the report will be considered successful .
    Best wishes

  460. Andrea Rossi

    Georgehants:
    When I was 10 years old my father wanted me to work in his steel carpentery during the Summer holidays. He said I had to learn that I have to work to earn anything. After a month I got my wage and the day after I have gone to the “oratorio”, the classic place close to the Church where in the fifties kids used to go to play soccer and socialize. Some were playing poker and I played with them and lost the fruit of one month of work, during which I returned everyday dirt from the workshop. Since then I didn’t bet even a cent that ” Tomorrow the Sun will rise”.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  461. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear Andrea,
    as you surely know, five professors (all Swedish) just released:
    http://www.nyteknik.se/asikter/debatt/article3830568.ece
    Google translated:
    “(….) new tests must be partly to clarify whether an anomalous heat production actually takes place and also investigate whether a change in the fuel’s overall isotopic composition takes place. (…) Such tests have now been carried out and the results will be reported in a new scientific article.”

    Signed: Bo Höistad , Torbjörn Hartman , Roland Pettersson , Lars Tegnér , Hanno Essén.

    I think this is very very interesting:
    “..and also investigate whether a change in the fuel’s overall isotopic composition takes place.”
    It seems that this issue has been foreseen in the test protocol this year.
    Are they authorized to do such kind of measurements?
    Best regards, ad maiora
    Giuliano Bettini.

  462. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    This year the Third Independent Party had the possibility to make paramount measurements in total absence of us. I have no idea of all the measurements they made ( I only know some of them I saw during my presence in the neutral laboratory) and I have no idea of the topics of the report they are going to publish. I also have no idea of all the analysis they made and are still making in their own laboratories in Sweden.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  463. georgehants

    Dear Mr. Rossi, it is going to be a very philosophical situation, that when the “report” is shortly published (that can be positive or negative)one of the greatest scientists in history is going to be a philosopher.
    Best wishes

  464. Andrea Rossi

    Georgehants:
    Please, do not forget that I am a phylosopher that studies Theoretical Physics at least 2 hours per day since about forty years, plus the time I spent making experiments of Physics ( in the different fields I covered during my life), which is uncalculable, but in the range of 40 000 hours in 40 years of work : I made 64 turns around the Sun since when I have been born and I designed and studied my first plant , based on Physics principles, during my 22nd turn. Besides, if the results of the experiment made by the Third Independent Party will be negative I surely will not be considered much of a scientist.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  465. georgehants

    Dear Mr Rossi, may I congratulate you on being able to see the difference between Fact and opinion in your reply to Herb Gillis.
    Much of science would I think be improved if more scientists where to follow your lead.
    Best wishes.

  466. Andrea Rossi

    Georgehants:
    Thank you. I follow the Socratic lead never to be sure to know anything.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  467. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    You posted “even if the electrolysis concept was, and still is, wrong”. Can you please clarify? I know that electrolysis can be much more effective in loading nickel with hydrogen compared to using gas pressure to do the loading.

    Or are you referring to the generation of heat using electrolysis as being wrong?

  468. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    If what you say is true, we will see the consequential results. So far we did not.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  469. LMV

    Hi Andrea
    Glad to help out a few ideas
    Is the phase angle issue between the output temperature raising/falling and input waveforms being addressed in the coming report? This was mentioned in the critics paper.

  470. Andrea Rossi

    LMV:
    I have not a clue of what will be written in the report of the Third Indipendent Party.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  471. LMV

    Andrea,

    Any output from a solar panel will be DC, you will then switch-mode convert DC to AC (typical efficiency about 95-97%) then use TRIAC or other mean to cut the Sine waveform to control the power input to the Hotcat. Wouldn’t it be more efficient to directly on/off the DC current supplied to the Hotcat (MosFET or fast solid sate relay and microchip are a few ways to do that)?

  472. Andrea Rossi

    LMV:
    Nice question, to be taken in consideration for solar couplings
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  473. Pietro F.

    le auguro un felice e sereno compleanno!!

  474. Andrea Rossi

    Pietro F.:
    Thank you
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  475. Enrico Ghelardoni

    Caro Andrea,
    mi unisco ai molti che ti hanno fatto gli auguri di compleanno.
    Credo infatti che il prossimo anno, quando sarai ormai famoso nel mondo, non avrai più il tempo per leggerli e rispondere da queste pagine.

    Con profonda stima
    Enrico

  476. Andrea Rossi

    Enrico Ghelardoni:
    Thank you: I will always find the time for this useful blog from which I always learn
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  477. Samuel

    Congratulations on your birthday.
    Keep up the good work!

  478. Andrea Rossi

    Samuel:
    Thank you, really appreciated,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  479. LMV

    Hi Andrea
    If the Ecat can work with any heat source, would you one day have a Dc version of the Hotcat, that can run without conversion to Ac power?

  480. Andrea Rossi

    LMV:
    We use alternate current from the source, do not make any conversion into direct current: there is no point in it and would reduce the efficiency.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  481. Daniel De Caluwé

    Dear dr. Rossi, I forgot something in my last message, therefore this correction:
    (It has to be perfect, and therefore, if possible, you could delete my previous message and change it by this one):

    Dear dr. Rossi,

    Inspired by the words of Patrick Ellul in his recent message, I write this:

    After 64 laps around the sun, and 25 laps after the first anouncement of “a sustained nuclear fusion reaction” by Fleischmann and Pons, I wish you many more laps around the sun, and especially a lot of success and a great breakthrough, and the recognition for all your very hard work, in this your 65th lap, that started today.

    And because of this special occasion, I wish to dedicate a song from Bob Dylan to you:

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xs13ou_bob-dylan-forever-young_music

    or

    http://vimeo.com/39546541

    And the beautifull text you can find here:

    http://www.bobdylan.com/us/songs/forever-young

    Congratualtions!

  482. Andrea Rossi

    Daniel De Caluwé:
    I like Bob Dylan, thank you very much,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  483. Fabio82

    Auguroni!!

  484. Andrea Rossi

    Fabio 82:
    Thank you!
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  485. Giovanni Guerrini

    Carissimo Andrea,

    queste pagine sono divenute un luogo virtuale in cui amici si ritrovano scambiando idee e sentimenti nel rispetto reciproco,accomunati dallo spirito del gruppo teso ad uno scopo più grande di noi.
    Questo è un altro grande regalo che Lei ci ha fatto.
    Noi conosciamo il Suo volto,mentre per Lei,giocoforza,siamo nomi senza immagine.
    Eravamo nomi e pensieri,ma in questi anni sono certo che per Lei siamo divenuti,seppur ancora dal viso anonimo,cuori che battono all’unisono a sostenerLa nei momenti bui ed a gioire insieme dei successi.
    Così,da questo luogo,Le porgo i miei più cari auguri di un felice compleanno.

    Con affetto e stima Giovanni

  486. Andrea Rossi

    Giovanni Guerrini:
    Thank you very much also for your consideration regarding this blog: I agree.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  487. Daniel De Caluwé

    Dear dr. Rossi,

    A little bit inspired by the words of Patrick Ellul in his recent message, I write this:

    After 64 laps around the sun, and 25 laps after the first anouncement of “a sustained nuclear fusion reaction” by Fleischmann and Pons, I wish you many more laps around the sun, and especially a lot of succes and a great breakthrough (and the recognition for all your very hard work), in this your 65th lap, that started today.

    Congratualtions!

  488. Patrick Ellul

    Caro Dr. Rossi. E’ l’ininzio del suo 65o giro intorno al sole…. che bello. Tanti auguri.

    Dear Dr. Rossi. This is the beginning of your 65th lap around the Sun… How beautiful. Best wishes.

  489. Andrea Rossi

    Patrick Ellul:
    Very nice definition of birthday!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  490. Herb Gillis

    Dr. Rossi:
    Best wishes on your birthday.
    I’m curious if in your research you have encountered any old reports of strange heat phenomena that might have been caused by unrecognized LENR effects. Things like unexpected heat releases or explosions (ie. before 1989).
    Kind Regards; HRG.

  491. Andrea Rossi

    Herb Gillis:
    Thank you, I really appreciate your kind wishes.
    About your question: no, I did not. What inspired me to begin, to be honest and sincere, has been the work of Prof Fleishmann and Prof Pons when it has been announced the first time. This is a merit they deserve, even if the electrolysis concept was, and still is, wrong. The electrolysis brings nowhere. Obviously, this is only my opinion and, as such, can be wrong.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  492. Patrick Ellul

    Caro Dr. Rossi. E’ l’ininzio del suo 65o giro intorno al sole…. che bello. Tanti auguri.

    Dear Dr. Rossi. This is the beginning of your 65th lap around Sol… How beautiful. Best wishes.

  493. Todd Burkett

    Happy Birthday!

  494. Andrea Rossi

    Todd Burkett:
    Thank you, really appreciated,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  495. Gherardo

    Quite late but still in time!
    Buon Compleanno Dott.Rossi :-)

  496. Andrea Rossi

    Gherardo:
    In the USA it is not late, it is right.
    Thank you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  497. Koen Vandewalle

    Andrea,
    Happy Birthday
    Koen

  498. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    Thank you!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  499. Gianluca

    Buon giorno Andrea.
    Buon compleanno.
    E’ vero che dopo una certa età sarebbe meglio non ricordare a nessuno
    un altro anno trascorso ma, nel suo caso, un altro anno presente nel panorama LENR
    (senza essere stato distrutto da Lobby e malaffare) significa molto per Lei stesso e per
    noi che ci crediamo sin dai primi giorni.
    Ancora tanti auguri dall’Italia.
    Gian Luca

  500. Andrea Rossi

    Gianluca:
    Thank you very much for your kind wishes!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  501. Martin

    Dear Andrea,

    I thought about your age and the hard work you have to do every day!
    Not only phisical but also a heavy menthal task. I know you like your work but
    Think it is important also to enjoy life. Is it possible for you to enjoy life or retire if you
    Want to? I hope your answer Will be yes. If so you’re welcome to visit my home in Holland I promise you Will have à good time!

    I wish you a lot of succes!

    Early follower Martin

  502. Andrea Rossi

    Martin:
    Thank you for your delighting invitation, I wish I could! I am working 14 hours per day…it is hard, also because I have also to lose a lot of time to defend myself for issues that have nothing to do with my work. My life is at a no return point, I can’t break, I can’t change, I can’t retire.
    But you have been delicious, God bless you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  503. KeithT

    Dear Andrea,

    Are you aware of the EU framework programme Horizon 2020, this has a fund of 80 billion Euro’s over 7 year, this fund is targeted at new research, innovation and technology within Europe.

    The funding can potentially cover up to 100% of the research and technology development costs that lead up to a new product, including any design and development work of production equipment for a new factory, (but not the building costs), the more partners; design house, chemical equipment, instrumentation suppliers, that are involved from different EU countries the easier it is to obtain funding.

    Perhaps you and your partners could consider a manufacturing site within Europe as well as the USA.

    Keith Thomson

  504. Andrea Rossi

    Keith T.:
    Thank you for the information,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  505. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    I think you will find this interesting. The Swedish professors who did the E-Cat test last year have issued a statement. This is an English translation:

    http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/06/03/swedish-e-cat-testers-issue-statement/

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  506. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Thank you, interesting,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  507. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Sometimes massive success leads to massive failure. If eCat technology takes off and is in heavy demand, there will be the issue of mass production of both the eCat technology, (reactors and associated parts) and also the fuel (nickel, catalyst, processing and the hydrogen source material). Can you enlighten us on the problems of upscaling to meet demand and the actions taken to mitigate the problem(s)? I am not looking for proprietary information, only how you foresee addressing a rapid change in demand.

  508. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Our industrialization issues are dealt with from the proper persons.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  509. Daniel De Caluwé

    Dear dr. Fine,

    Our respiration (inhaling of air and exhaling of CO2) is, what climate scientists call ‘CO2-neutral’, because the carbon we exhale, is coming from our food we took from the biosphere, so by exhaling it, we give back (to the biosphere) what we took via our food.

    But compared to this and to the contrary, the burning of fossil fuels, is NOT CO2-neutral, because in that case, we take carbon from the underground, that didn’t take part anymore in the exchange in the biosphere for millions of years, and by burning these fossil fuels, we bring that ancient carbon back in the biosphere, so this is NOT CO2-neutral anymore… (And by bringing in that carbon from outside the biosphere, and burning it, there is a corresponging reduction (!) of the oxygen level in the atmosphere… ;-)

  510. Daniel De Caluwé

    @Peter Forsberg,

    It is true that plant growth increases with increasing CO2 concentration, but the sees and the oceans, that were responsible for most of the uptake in the eighties and nineties, are becoming much more acidic by it, (which also changes the sea-life/algae and their influence on fish), and tend to reduce their uptake, that was bigger in the eighties than in the nineties, and on land there was a strong opposite influence because of deforestation. (See Table 2)

    So yes, there was and is a considerable uptake (in the nineteens about half of the emissions was absorbed, but mainly by the oceans and the sees (that unfortunately became more acidic, with consequences on sea-life (algae) and fish stocks), but which tend to uptake less in the future (!), and the projected increase of CO2-uptake on land will far from neutralise the manmade emissions, and the uptake could very well decline over time, or turn into a source of net emissions, because there also is a real risk of
    large-scale carbon release from forests (once existing forests – given the foreseen climate changes – will suddenly find themselves outside their proper climatic ranges), and more generally from the accelerated turnover of dead biomass caused by
    increasing temperatures…

    See also (I admit, old links, but given as an illustration) :

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/planting-trees-wont-save/

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/debit-or-credit/

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientists-reassess-carbo/

    http://www.nature.com/news/1998/030721/full/news030721-6.html

    http://www.nature.com/news/1998/000420/full/news000420-12.html

    But if you insist, I prefer to agree to disagree… ;-)

  511. alutam

    Andrea,
    Do you know if Industrial Heat is producing and warehousing E-Cats in anticipation of huge sales volume?
    Best Regards.

  512. Andrea Rossi

    Alutam:
    Information regarding the industrialization of the E-Cat by Industrial Heat will be given in due time by the press guys. No specific information can be given now.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  513. Joseph Fine

    Peter Forsberg:

    I meant that we all exhale CO2. We would not be healthy reducing our intake of Oxygen by 30%, nor very happy walking around with CO2 scrubbing devices around our heads. Also, this does not discuss production of Methane (another Greenhouse gas) by people and animals. But many politicians know more about this.

    Joseph Fine

  514. Daniel De Caluwé

    Dear dr. Rossi and Peter Forsberg,

    About the strong influence of human activities in climate change, of which I am very much convinced, we better agree to disagree, because otherwise I could spend the rest of my life in these never ending discussions, but a few years ago I decided to stop with it and go further with more usefull things. ;-) So you’re on the good side, dr. Rossi, because by inventing and developping further your E-cat, you contribute to find a solution (for many problems, of course not only to reduce human influence in climate change), and that’s much better than spending ones time in endless discussions, like I did a few years ago… ;-)

  515. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    The US Environmental Protection Agency just issued new rules about reducing carbon emissions from power plants. States are required to cut carbon emissions by 30 per cent overall by 2030 (from a 2005 baseline) It would seem that the most adverse effects would be on coal power plants which produce the highest levels of carbon dioxide.

    This rule may make the E-Cat an even more attractive means of power production, and could help boost business for Industrial Heat.

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  516. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    This can be useful.
    Thank you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  517. Peter Forsberg

    Dear Jospeh Fine,

    You said: “Presumably, we will still be allowed to breathe Oxygen.”

    I’m not so sure. In Sweden we pay carbon taxes for more and more activites. And unfortunately most voters and politicians would not understand what you mean by your statement. They do not know that most of a plants mass is created via CO2. In all the new speak that has followed the EPA regulation CO2 is now referred to as carbon pollution. This is a deception. CO2 is not a pollutant. It is the stuff of life. More CO2 will equal more life. The global warming theory is a runaway train, I think, and we are waiting for the crash. The ECat could indeed be a saviour, since it would allow politicians to save face.

    Regards

    Peter

  518. Andrea Rossi

    Peter Forsberg:
    I too am all but sure about the global warming theory. Earth had cycles of desertification ( the Sahara desert was an immense forest) and of glaciation, due to phenomena in great part unknown. I think in good part it is matter of business, like the “millennium bug” conundrum, remember? Nevertheless, it is not bad its propelling of more attention against pollution issues, whose real danger is more the health of people around pollution sources, than the so called global warming. I know, this opinion is not politically correct, but it is my opinion. Obviously, can be wrong.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    p.s. Thank you to be still here…

  519. Andrea,

    Running for office……. Let’s say it was a learning experience.

    Now that you don’t have to worry about being part of my staff, you can get back to work on your project. :-) .

    I’m looking forward for the time when your e-cats give us all an added measure of independence from silly governments.

    All the best.

    Charlie

  520. Andrea Rossi

    Charlie Sutherland:
    I belong to the staff of my Team: that’s more than enough…good luck to you for your next race.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  521. Dear Andrew,
    many greetings Happy Birthday, I wish you a thousand surprises to find what you’re looking for and to achieve your dreams that have now become even our!
    We hope you gift a preview of the positive results of the third party. Andrea strength not to give up!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NIPDOdp71Q
    They will use your Hot Cat in Alaska!

  522. Andrea Rossi

    Ing. Michelangelo De Meo:
    Thank you.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  523. Antonella Basilico

    Carissimo Andrea, sono contenta di vederti lavorare serenamente, e ti auguro che questo prossimo giro intorno al Sole ti porti infine a coronare il tuo sogno, a inviare i tuoi Gatti per il mondo.
    Buon compleanno, che tu sia benedetto.
    Anto

  524. Andrea Rossi

    Antonella Basilico:
    Thank you,
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  525. Joseph Fine

    Robert Curto:

    You are right. The EPA’s CO2 emission rule is for a 25% reduction by 2020 and a 30% reduction by 2030. I stand corrected.

    By then, that may only apply to people who want to burn wood at campfires. Presumably, we will still be allowed to breathe Oxygen. ;)

    Thank you,

    Joseph Fine

  526. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    We are now in June, and you mentioned a while ago that you had been told that the report may be published in the 2nd or 3rd week of June. I understand you are not in control of the publication date, but to the best of your knowledge are you still expecting this June publication schedule?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  527. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    The timing of the publication are totally out of my control. The results will be extremely important, positive or negative as they might be. Please do not ask me anymore the scheduling of a thing that is totally indipendent from me and completely out of my control. Please be patient.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  528. Robert Curto

    Dr. Joseph Fine, I am sure it is just a typo.
    By the year 2030, not 2020.
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA

  529. Andrea,
    In mercatu veritas, ma in verbo deridas!
    (Sorry if wrong: I don’t know Latin, only google)
    r:/pekka

  530. Andrea Rossi

    Pekka Janhunen:
    Non verba volumus, sed facta!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  531. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Redeemed,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  532. Andreas Moraitis

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Just don’t care about the allegations made by certain persons. As you have indicated, these allegations are like boomerangs which will, after they have failed their target, return to those who have thrown them. Perhaps you know the old (possibly Chinese) proverb:

    “If you sit by the river long enough, you will see the body of your enemy float by.”

    (“Sit by the river” could be interpreted as “follow your path”.)

    Best regards,
    Andreas Moraitis

  533. Andrea Rossi

    Andreas Moraitis:
    I agree, thank you and about the Chinese sayings let me cite the one I use with my friend Enrico Billi, a paradigmatic example of the solution against the clowns:
    “lavolale, lavolale”
    ( I am not sure it’s correct Chinese, though)
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  534. Joseph Fine

    AR,

    I have to redeem myself.

    If the reduction of CO2 is 0 tons and the original amount of released CO2 was 0 tons, then the percentage reduction is (amount of reduction)/(original amount)*100. Since both of these quantities are 0, the ratio 0/0 is undefined. So you may still run afoul of the EPA because you will only have an undefined percentage of reduction, not 1%, 10% or 500%. Just an undefined percent. :D

    Joseph Fine

  535. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    You are right, it is not false, but within the limits of application of our technology. As I always said, most technologies will have to be integrated.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  536. orsobubu

    This is the correct link for the translation of the page:

    http://tinyurl.com/otsfg2w

  537. Andrea Rossi

    Orsobubu:
    The more stupidities our enemies say, the more naked they will be turned when the market will confirm the operation of out plants. Until it turns to talk and to bla-bla without working they are the unbeatable world Champions, also because people that really works ( like me) has not the time and space to fight their chatters. In the world of chatters you can also say that Jesus Christ did walk upon the sea because he was so dumb not to be able to swim aging 33 years and you surely will find some imbecile that follows: the mother of imbeciles is always pregnant.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  538. Joseph Fine

    Dear Andrea,

    The US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has proposed cutting power plant Carbon Dioxide emissions by 30% by the year 2020.

    Since your plants already produce zero Carbon Dioxide*, is it false advertising to say your plants could reduce CO2 exhaust not by 30%, but by 3000% or 300,000% since any percent of 0 is 0?

    * (The CO2 dissolved in water will be released when you boil it. )

    Joseph Fine

  539. orsobubu

    About the motto “In mercatu veritas” that you’re going to write on the 1MW plant, it will be a nice revenge against your detractors. I refer to the fact that, in the same years in which the events narrated in your site http://www.ingandrearossi.com took place, some of them became part of the staff of one of the most antimarket, anti-American, anti-Atlanticist etc radio networks ever seen in Italy and in Europe. Ironically, they led just programs dedicated to scientific divulgation (The “Cyclotron”)!!. Apparently, mattered little to them that, in the same years and from the same radio frequencies, departed conductors’ and listeners’ choirs praising the death of the space shuttle Challenger seven astronauts; mattered little to them that for years the radio had supported radical positions in favor of the Soviet Union regime, giving voice even to the claims and rivendications of “revolutionary” terrorist groups, as it is beautifully remembered at the bottom of this page:

    http://www.enzopennetta.it/2013/08/la-macchina-del-fango-il-caso-coyaud/

    translation:

    http://tinyurl.com/nk56j8y

    Now, as usual in Italy, these petty-bourgeois intellectuals, who have done everything wrong in their interpretation of scientific materialism, are at the service of the most powerful capitalist groups and industrial private organizations, in the same manner in which thirty or forty years ago they were the servants of the Russian and Chinese state capitalism. I understand that you have to stay focused on your goal, but you’ll be interested to know that – as you can read in the previuos link – you’re certainly not the only one to be the target of their attacks; in that site, there is the reply of Enzo Pennetta, a teacher of natural sciences in a Catholic school that always placed himself in a critical way against reductionist neo-Darwinism official science, without denying the theory of evolution or support creationism.

    I am attaching some links on his website where the prof. gives news on e-cat:

    http://www.enzopennetta.it/2011/10/la-fisica-italiana-sospesa-o-stelle-o-stalle/

    http://www.enzopennetta.it/2011/08/l%E2%80%99-e-cat-e-il-metodo-scientifico/

    and where he expose some ideas that I think will interest you on the subject of the criticism to Darwinism:

    http://www.enzopennetta.it/2013/02/cronaca-di-una-conferenza-su-creazionismo-ed-evoluzione-tra-i-noma-e-lelefante-nella-stanza/

    http://www.enzopennetta.it/2012/09/verso-una-nuova-teoria-dellevoluzione/

  540. Mark Saker

    Dear Andrea,

    I (and most probably the rest of us) am getting excited now for hopefully a double reveal within the next month. 1st – A positive report, and 2nd – a working 1MW plant.

    As you are working on the plant, I wonder if you can tell me just two things. 1. Does the 1MW plant look like the old 1MW plant – in a shipping container with a 100 small cats, or
    2. will this be an commercially ready, new 1MW hot cat with smaller dimensions?
    3. Will it be providing just heat, or heat and electricity?

    Many Thanks

    I am so looking forward to you finally getting the recognition you deserve!

    Mark

  541. Andrea Rossi

    Mark Saker:
    I agree,but:
    1- the timing of the reviewing of the report does not depend on me
    2- the ting for the public presentation of the 1 MW plant working in the factory of our Customer has not yet be defined, but I can say it will be in a range, we suppose, of several months, not weeks
    3- any information regarding the technological data will be delivered at the presentation.
    Warm Regards
    A.R. – In mercatu veritas

  542. Dave K.

    IN MERCATU VERITAS! Salute!

  543. Andrea Rossi

    Dave K.:
    Yes, In mercatu veritas.
    Andrea Rossi

  544. Andrea Rossi

    Errata corrige:
    I made a typo:
    The motto ” In mercato veritas” must be corrected as follows:
    ” In mercatu veritas”: mercatus is of the fourth declination…
    Warm regards to all
    A.R.

  545. Joseph j

    Dear Andrea

    I think you are going to end up in a book like this.

    The Rise
    Creativity, the Gift of Failure, and the Search for Mastery:

    http://books.simonandschuster.com/Rise/Sarah-Lewis/9781451629255

  546. Andrea Rossi

    Joseph J:
    Thank you,
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  547. Wladimir Guglinski

    Dear Andrea

    If the results of third independent party and of the R&D in course will be positive, do you think will the positive result contribute and accelerate the process of getting the patent , and to put the eCat in the market ?

    regards
    wlad

  548. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    I would say that we have to put a distinction between market and science. Both, anyway, could give positive or negative results, and we will give information of both, along their indipendent paths, when we will consider consolidated the results ( for the industrial plants) and when we will have a reviewed- published report ( for the Third Indipendent Party test). Both are on their way. I am focused on the one that depends on me: the 1 MW plant ( on the front of it I want written the motto “In mercato veritas”).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  549. Italo R.

    Dear Dr. Rossi, this is the greatest news I have heard recently:

    “…Now we pass from the testing era to the market era with the 1 MW plants in continuous industrial operation….”

    It means that there is a running plant somewhere (where?) from some time (how much time?) and it is fully satisfactory (is it true?)

    Now if you could tell us some more informations…

    Kind Regards,
    Italo R.

  550. Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.:
    I am focused on the 1 MW plant, as I said. Only the market will put an end to all the useless chattering around and will vindicate the value of our work, making groundless the accusations based on my past ( see http://www.ingandrearossi.com). My enemies can libel me, can write and broadcast falsities and accusations regarding facts of my life of 20 years ( twenty years !!!) ago, not related to my work on the LENR, but useful to try to discredit my person, can blackmail me, can do this and other, but one thing they will never able to do: stop the plants that are working with my technology. I have to answer with facts, not words.
    The particulars of the plant in operation in the USA will be given to the visitors when we will be able to allow visits to next Customers and allowed persons and will be published in due time.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  551. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Thank you, I really appreciate.
    I am keeping my work as focused as never before. Now we pass from the testing era to the market era with the 1 MW plants in continuous industrial operation. IN MERCATO VERITAS.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  552. Joseph Fine

    Dear Andrea,

    Best (early) wishes for a very happy Birthday.

    Keep on keeping on and keep up the good work!

    Positive regards,

    Joseph Fine

  553. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    You mention working on the 1 MW Plant — is this the low temperature, or hot cat plant?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  554. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    We will give all the due particulars of this industrial application in the USA when we will open the visits to the plant in operation.
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  555. Dear Andrea, what do you think of this future based on LERN? see the video.
    strength Rossiii
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fNXz6qMUeg

  556. Andrea Rossi

    Ing. Michelangelo De Meo:
    Thank you. Now, waiting for the results of the TIP, we are working very, very hard on the 1 MW plant. All what is happening around makes me extremely focused on it. In mercato veritas.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  557. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    Since we are in a holding pattern and have free time awaiting the results of the TPR, I would like to offer some reasons for my insistence that electron capture must be involved in at least a few mechanisms in LENR(not necessarily your effect). We know that in naturally occurring LENR(radioactivity) the most prevalent process involves either electron or positron emission in which many are triggered by electron capture. These processes produce energies which can be used for many purposes. Also we know that no stable atoms above Uranium are detected in nature. One reason for this is that when enough protons are present in a nucleus the positive fields attract the orbital electrons into the nucleus causing enough instabilities to cause decay to occur. When radioactive atoms are fully ionized their half lives are extended because of the absence of orbiting electrons. All these effects have been documented by experimental evidence.
    As atoms increase in proton number the inner electrons draw closer to the nucleus and in some cases pre Uranium atoms can under go electron capture spontaneously with emission of B- and B+ neutrinos and gammas of reduced energy. It is not difficult for me to envision a system where large external negative fields can be imposed on surrounding electron clouds to cause inner electrons to penetrate even stable isotopes of higher atomic number species such as the transition elements which possess volatile electron movements within their clouds. If there is an isomer present the penetrating electron can stimulate the excited nucleons further causing energy emissions. The number of possibilities for such configurations to be allowed can be large since the number of combinations of particles are enormous. This method seems to me to be much easier to attain than trying to force a proton into the nucleus or to create a neutron by combining an electron with a proton outside of the nucleus.
    Hopefully the TPR will be published before I can impose some other odd scenarios upon your readers.
    Good luck although I don’t think you need it to have a positive result.

  558. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Thank you for your insight.
    As you know, I cannot disclose any particular related to what happens inside the reactor.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  559. silvio caggia

    Dear Steven N. Karels,
    Hands off “my” onion-cat! :-D

  560. Andrea Rossi

    Silvio Caggia:
    That’ s pre- divulgation!
    Warm regards
    AR

  561. DTravchenko

    Dear Andrea:
    1- will you be open to further peer reviewing after the publication of the report?
    2- will you be able to share your work and the work of your team with us, to make us better understand how an E-Cat is born?
    3- we have links to disclose who is paying for the attack made against you.
    From Russia, with love,
    D.T.

  562. Andrea Rossi

    D. Travchenko:

    1- All scientific research and testing is only improved by having serious challengers, this is a normal part of the peer review process. I welcome those who are interested in science to come forward and volunteer their views, but objectively evaluate the theories and follow the facts as they are presented. Well- articulated debate is essential to further science and R&D efforts.
    2- I will continue to share my efforts to share the work I am doing and to make it as widely available as possible, but only at the appropriate time. Until then, I am not able to respond to those I have not worked with or those who are not directly involved in my research.
    3- I repeat: I am committed to my work for the development of the E-Cat and this must remain my focus. My sole focus.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  563. Curiosone

    Can you give more information about the corrupted persons that have , as you say, devastated your life 20 years ago and that could be behind this attack ?
    W.G.

  564. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    I am committed to my research and the development of the E-Cat. This is my highest priority and it must remain my focus.
    I am not going to talk anymore about that thing.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  565. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    You referred to the “Mouse and Cat” design for eCat control. The Mouse provides stability, runs part of the time with a relatively low effective COP. The Cat provides the large amount of output power and spends portions of its time in a self-sustaining mode. Surely you must have considered a “Mouse, Cat and Tiger” configuration. Where the Cat controls the Tiger.

    1. Can you address this possible configuration?
    2. Would stability be an issue?
    3. Could not the “Mouse and Cat” subsystem be considered a “Big Mouse” to the Big Cat (Tiger)?

  566. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    1- I cannot give this information until the product is on the market
    2- see point 1
    3- would a man with 5 balls be considered a pin-ball?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  567. Bernie Koppenhofer

    Dr Rossi: I am impressed by how positive you stay after the personal unscientific attacks by a “scientific” program. The editor of the program should be ashamed. Keep up your good very important t work. In this program it was said the tests were not being done in Sweden, can you confirm?

  568. Andrea Rossi

    Bernie Koppenhofer:
    I have too much work to do to save enough of it for defending myself from a well organized libelling, made by direct and indirect competitors. I have nothing to add to what has been written on
    http://www.ingandrearossi.com
    I underline, confirm and repeat every single word of that site. The mafious system, based on corruption, that destroyed my work 20 years ago, is now terrorized that my incoming work could , if successful, put in evidence what they made 20 years ago.
    The falsities I have been reported of, regarding this pseudo- scientific broadcasting, speak for themselves ; every honest, sincere and intelligent person can understand perfectly what is behind those attacks, unleashed right before the publication of a neutral experiment whose results, positive or negative as they might be, will be anyway important.
    The experiment of the Third Indipendent Party has been made in a neutral place, not in the USA, not in Italy. I am not allowed to give any further information before the publication: obviously the precise location will be described in the report.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  569. GParenti

    Dr Andrea:
    We all understood that the attack against your person we saw in the last days has been a clownesque attempt to discredit your work using insults and using your vicissitudes of 20 years ago instead of a clean and honest scientific criticism; we all understood that this all was a frame up paid by your competitors. Nobody has been so stupid to take seriously this shameful frame up. Will you answer to their “arguments”?
    G. Parenti

  570. Andrea Rossi

    G. Parenti:
    No. There are no scientific bases to open a discussion. About the events that devastated my life 20 years ago, I confirm what is described in
    http://www.ingandrearossi.com
    I am making a very hard work, we are working for the diffusion of our plants, we are waiting for a dramatically important report regarding a long run test and I want not to be distracted from my work by things that will have no importance at all, either if the results of our work will be positive or if will be negative, as they might be.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  571. Ravedoni Carlo

    Signor Rossi buongiorno,
    Volevo segnalarLe (nel caso non ne fosse al corrente) un dispositivo inventato da un francese, Dumas appunto.

    Ecco qui il suo sito internet : http://leblogdejc.com/effetdumas/?page_id=165 (in English)
    http://leblogdejc.com/effetdumas (in francese).

    Si tratta di una palla in acciaio coperta da una semi sfera a una distanza di circa 1,6 mm. Alimentata da corrente che genera un sur più’ di potenza del 16 %.

    Su suo sito ci sono tutti gli appunti, e i piani per la fabbricazione del dispositivo, che Dumas mette a disposizione di tutti. Lo scopo del sig. Dumas è che chiunque si ritiene capace di sviluppare la sua invenzione, sia libero di farlo, a condizione che questo sviluppo ulteriore sia messo a disposizione di tutti. Non impedisce comunque la commercializzazione degli sviluppi futuri.

    Non so cosa se ne puo’ fare lei di questo dispositivo. Volevo solamente attirare la sua attenzione su cosa succede nel mondo.

    Approfitto dell’occasione per ringraziarla per il lavoro che sta svolgendo, e attendo con impazienza i risultati del test, che spero siano positivi.

    Ravedoni Carlo

  572. Andrea Rossi

    Ravedoni Carlo:
    It violates the first and second thermodynamic principle.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  573. Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi, snow is removed from most roads, when a snow plow pushes it
    to the side of the road.
    On a city street you cannot do that, you cannot push the snow on top of
    the sidewalk.
    The snow is scooped up by a Front End Loader, loaded into a Truck and
    transported to a dump site, could be a river, or a large area.
    For example in Helsinki, Finland they need to remove 210,000 Truck Loads.
    I was wondering could E-Cat heat a big ‘bin’ that could be placed over a
    drain, located on every city block ?
    The Front End Loader could dump it’s load into the hot ‘bin’ and the snow would turn to water.
    You don’t have to boil the water, the ‘bin’ just has to be hot enough to melt
    the snow to water.
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA

  574. Andrea Rossi

    Robert Curto:
    Thanks,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  575. Alessandro

    Dear Mr Rossi,
    now it’s been a long time since of the beginning of the indipendent tests, have you any news from that? the fact that all is not yet clear about your discovery could continue to be a problem?
    thanks a lot for your job!
    in bocca al lupo
    Best Regards
    Alessandro

  576. Andrea Rossi

    Alessandro:
    I have no news at all regarding the third party indipendent test. I am not able to say anything about all the issue. Just wait, with patience.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  577. LMV

    Hi Andrea,

    Vietnamese government has delayed their plan to build 14 nuclear power stations. Maybe they are aware of your Hotcat development.

  578. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Have you considered continuous asphalt plants as an application for eCat technology? According to Wikipedia, they produce 500 Tonnes per hour of hot asphalt. Being a continuous constant load seems well suited for eCat technology. Typical asphalt temperatures are around the 200C region and are usually stored in Hot Storage before being shipped out. Conceptually, delivery truck could also be equipped with eCat units to maintain the asphalt temperature. Currently, maintaining temperature limits the distance deliveries can be made.

  579. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Good idea.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  580. Andrea Rossi

    To our wonderful Readers:
    Congratulations and thank you for your intelligence. Useless to say to what I refer. You reaction gives evidence of the difference between intelligent people and clowns.
    God bless you all,
    Andrea Rossi

  581. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in May 27th, 2014 at 1:31 PM

    1) ——————————
    Concerning your question, my view is the following:
    Math does not create physics.
    Physics does not create math.
    But when devising a new approach, both have to be kept in mind. That is why I stated in my post to Magnus Holm that I used logical forms as a starting point. It is important to remember that logic is the foundation of our understanding of both math and physics. When working with logic, all the nonsense (“phantasmagoria”) is swept away. What remains is scientific truth.
    —————————————–

    COMMENT

    Yes, as the own Galileo had emphasized: the science cannot be divorced to the logic.

    2) ——————————–
    Do not worry, Wladimir. The physical elegance that you demand of a theory exists in my work. It is not as evident as in Quantum Ring Theory. But even you said that scientists would have to apply differential equations to your model in order that your model be complete. And differential equations can sometimes cloud the obvious physicality of a model.
    ——————————————-

    COMMENT

    I understand.
    Even because a correct mathematic approach can help the discovery of the true physical model, and to test it.

    regards
    wlad

  582. Gherardo

    Dott.Rossi,
    looking backward to the beginning, but with the understanding of the following researches, to you think the very first e-cat was more a serendipity success out of a methodological work or the due result of hard work?
    To explain better my question, I do remember that the solution came out of some instinct but also many trials. Were you lucky and got early results or had to go through all planned possibilities?
    Gherardo

  583. Andrea Rossi

    Gherardo:
    Both. Without the help of God I could do nothing anyway.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  584. Dear Andrea, if the tests are positive (I hope so!) and the hot Cat works, will be immediately sold and marketed?
    To what extent is the industrialization?
    when do you think we will see the first Hot Cat in Italy?
    is ready for the commercial network?
    thanks

  585. Andrea Rossi

    Ing. Michelangelo De Meo:
    I do not deal with commercial issues.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  586. orsobubu

    Andrea, just a curiosity. I was lurking for the previous announcement
    about the first third-party-report, published in JONP on may 19, 2013.
    I noted that some readers were faster then you on the news:
    ——
    Enrico Billi
    May 19th, 2013 at 11:27 PM

    Third party report published! I cross the fingers for you Andrea Rossi!

    http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1305/1305.3913.pdf
    ——
    Italo R.
    May 20th, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    Finally, the REPORT!!
    It is GREAT!!

    http://ecat.com/files/Indication-of-anomalous-heat-energy-production-in-a-reactor-device.pdf
    ——
    Todd Burkett
    May 20th, 2013 at 12:26 AM

    Congratulations !
    On the 3rd party report!
    Are you pleased?
    ——
    Andrea Rossi
    May 20th, 2013 at 1:25 AM

    Dear Todd Burkett:
    IThank you. This is one of the most important days of my life.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    ——
    The anticipation appeared buried deep inside the article “Electrical catalyst” by
    Tadej Bajda on May 11th, 2013, counting the record number of 834 comments.
    Do you plan to make the announcement yourself, this time?

    As always, beware, dear readers: I think Andrea Rossi will publish a brand new dedicated hystorical article if the report will be positive
    but it will appear again lost in the middle of another old article if it will be negative.

  587. Andrea Rossi

    Orsobubu:
    He,he,he…
    Do not worry: I will give information on this blog as soon as I will have notice of the publication, whatever the results. To hide a negative resultmixing it in the middle of minor things would be like to hidden an elephant behind a strawberry.
    Maybe somebody will get information about the publication before me, as it happened in past: I am not privileged, I will read the publication and will give information about it and I am in the USA, therefore in China they will read the publication 15 hours ahead of me. This is why I have been anticipated.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  588. Joe

    Wladimir,

    I thank you for reading my paper.

    Concerning your question, my view is the following:
    Math does not create physics.
    Physics does not create math.
    But when devising a new approach, both have to be kept in mind. That is why I stated in my post to Magnus Holm that I used logical forms as a starting point. It is important to remember that logic is the foundation of our understanding of both math and physics. When working with logic, all the nonsense (“phantasmagoria”) is swept away. What remains is scientific truth. And physics as it stands today has a lot of nonsense. In fact, that is in part what got me started. I did not create anything new here, I just cleaned up what was already there. In part, I used old approaches such as “form versus substance” and “static versus dynamic”. I ended up with two conceptual forms that I combined in a novel (but still logical) way. The result is an equation of which the function that you see in my paper is only a small part. And since that function seems to be viable as a descriptor of fermion masses, it would mean that the rest of my equation would be valid in describing other physical phenomena.

    So what are these two conceptual forms that I used?
    As I have already stated in my post to Magnus Holm, I will save that for another time if and when the scientific community will be interested in my work. Suffice it to say that both conceptual forms are very well attested in history as math tools in describing physical reality. They are still used today. One form exists in both classical and modern physics, as well as in engineering. And the other form exists as a very practical tool in navigation.

    Do not worry, Wladimir. The physical elegance that you demand of a theory exists in my work. It is not as evident as in Quantum Ring Theory. But even you said that scientists would have to apply differential equations to your model in order that your model be complete. And differential equations can sometimes cloud the obvious physicality of a model.

    All the best,
    Joe

  589. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in May 25th, 2014 at 10:31 PM

    Magnus Holm,

    I thank for responding to my question.

    It is true that particular masses of the Standard Model are a great mystery.

    Magnus Holm, I humbly provide to you for your examination and judgment, if you are so inclined, a paper that I wrote and just uploaded to the Internet a few days ago that solves the mystery of fermion masses.

    My paper (abridged version):
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_rhNc9hA61_TEtWOGhRNEljQ0k/edit?usp=sharing
    ——————————————

    Dear Joe,
    I read your article, but even if your theory is correct, and it describes mathematically the fermion masses, however a fundamental question remains:

    what are the physical mechanisms underlying the mathematical description?

    Is the matter only a manifestation of mathematical equations with no physical reality ?

    Is the phantasmagoric scientific method proposed by Heisenberg the final answer for the puzzles of the physical reality existing in the Universe?

    regards
    wlad

  590. Fabio82

    Dear Andrea, do you have any idea about the time between the publication of the third independent party report and the beginning of mass production and the e cat commercialisation?
    Warm regards
    Fabio

  591. Andrea Rossi

    Fabio82:
    I have not idea of the date of the publication, because it does not depend on me. The domestic E-Cat productionis not possible without a safety certification.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  592. Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi and Readers, Google:
    OTEC
    Scroll down and click on:
    World’s largest OTEC power plant planned for China
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA

  593. Andrea Rossi

    Robert Curto:
    Thank you.
    You did not send the link, but we can also Google.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  594. Koen Vandewalle

    Andrea,
    A Gas-Cat, is that
    1. An E-cat device that is heated by burning some kind of fuel.
    2. An E-Cat device using a mix of Ni-powder and a gas that flows and is repeatedly cooled and heated ?

    You are teaming up with very good scientist, apparently developing theoretical and/or numerical models.
    If I understand the theory and answers from Magnus Holm, that are very well written, it seems to be way too complex to develop a model that is usefull to enhance the E-cat beyond COP’s that make other energy sources somewhat pointless.

    In case that your answer about the Gas-Cat is “2″, then a Carnot cycle may generatie the best outcome.

    A last question, for now, that comes into my mind: does the E-Cat remain an easy to manufacture device, or has it become very complex, and eventually multi-stage ?

    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  595. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    1- yes
    2- we do not give information in positive or negative about the reactor operation
    3- The E-Cat has never been an easy to manufacture thing, but maybe you are right: easiness is a relative concept.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  596. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    OTEC use the lower temperature of deep water versus the relatively hot water near the ocean’s surface. The surface water pressure is reduced and the colder water used to cool the hot vapors into distilled water. The eCat would generate the electrical power to pump the water and to reduce the pressure.

  597. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Interesting, we will take deeper information about this.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  598. Tom Conover

    Dear Andrea,

    On 1/20/14 Frank asked if you would also be publishing an internal report of your own internal long-term testing at some point. You replied on 1/20/14 that “Yes, it will be published after the report of the third indipendent party.”

    As we draw closer to this moment, can you comment on the timeframe that might be realistic for the publication of the internal report that many of us that are also interested in? (+/-) :-)

    Thank you so very much!

    Tom Conover

  599. Andrea Rossi

    Tom Conover:
    I do not know when the report of the hird Independent Party will be published, therefore I am not able to answer you.
    We must be patient. This report will have a strong importance, whatever the results, positive or negative as they might be.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  600. eernie1

    Dear Magnus,
    It is not surprising that many adhoc explanations are proffered for the description of physical spaces because of the complexities inherent in our limited ability to visualize multidimensional manifolds. Empirical evidence available to me suggests that I reside in a 4 dimensional Riemannian symmetry space since almost all of the visible or mental forms that I can perceive are spherical or spheroidal in three dimensional space with the other dimension time a non Abelian factor since it can only proceed in one direction(forward). When we describe particles, atoms, celestial bodies, nucleon configurations(tear drop),electron orbits and indeed the universe itself, spherical geometries are used. We also see other manifolds in a limited way in the toroidal forms of the magnetic fields of the Earth and the behavior of sun spots under the influence of its magnetic field. We also postulate the various non spherical positions of electron orbitals containing higher quantum numbers as distortions from symmetrical spheres. I feel that because of these complexities, the use of analogy in attempting to explain physical conceptions is one of the most important tools we have. When Bohr conceived his model of the atom, even though it contained a few questionable properties, it instigated the development of modern chemistry and electronic devices such as semiconductors. Perhaps a clever analogy for space forms can do the same for the next level of physical science.
    Thank you for responding to my previous blogs. These discussions bring me much pleasure.
    Regards.

  601. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    It’s fascinating that you have a big effort to combine solar with the E-Cat.

    1. Do you consider this a more efficient alternative to natural gas or grid electricity?

    2. Or is it an alternative when the above sources are not available?

    Happy Memorial Day!

  602. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    1- no, I consider it an integration that can be convenient in specific situations
    2- that maybe one of the specific situations
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  603. Joe

    Magnus Holm,

    I thank for responding to my question.

    It is true that particular masses of the Standard Model are a great mystery. From Wikipedia, in the article titled “List of unsolved problems in physics”, in the category titled “High energy physics/particle physics”, it reads,

    “Generations of matter
    Why are there three generations of quarks and leptons? Is there a theory that can explain the masses of particular quarks and leptons in particular generations from first principles (a theory of Yukawa couplings)?”

    Again in Wikipedia, in the article titled “Generation (particle physics)”, it reads,

    “It is hoped that a comprehensive understanding of the relationship between the generations of the leptons may eventually explain the ratio of masses of the fundamental particles, and shed further light on the nature of mass generally, from a quantum perspective.”

    Magnus Holm, I humbly provide to you for your examination and judgment, if you are so inclined, a paper that I wrote and just uploaded to the Internet a few days ago that solves the mystery of fermion masses. I developed a function that uniquely determines the mass ratios of charged fermions. This means nine predicted masses to almost five significant figures (off by only 2 at the fifth significant figure). (The uncharged neutrino is a slightly different matter and I did not include it for specific reasons.) I started developing this function from only logical forms in the year 2006. I did not work backwards from present data in the Standard Model. I finally applied my function to the information in the Standard Model twelve months ago and it worked. Between 2006 and 2013, I frankly had no doubt that it would work since the logic was as solid as I could imagine it to be. (I will leave the details of the logic involved for another time.) The good news is that my function ultimately confirms the standard view of the masses of the quarks that were attained by scientists.

    My paper is only one page in length (excluding the title page). It is an abridged version of a four-page paper which offers more proof. I would appreciate your opinion on it. It is very simple to understand, and the function itself can be easily graphed. (Here is the trick. Overlap three curves on the graph: one with positive q; one with negative q; and one with q = 0. The points where the positive q and negative q curves overlap is where the masses are identical (obviously) and therefore are particle-antiparticle pairs of second and third generations of any of the three families of charged fermions. The first generation of particle-antiparticle pairs is found at the unique points where all three q curves overlap.)

    My paper (abridged version):
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_rhNc9hA61_TEtWOGhRNEljQ0k/edit?usp=sharing

    All the best,
    Joe

  604. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea:

    You have mentioned recently working on using natural gas as relatively inexpensive input for the E-Cat, so it’s interesting now that you are doing R&D combining the E-Cat with solar plants — what is the reason for this vast undertaking?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  605. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    This vast undertaking comes from the necessity to see the future of the E-Cat projected in all the most convenient fields.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  606. Dear Joe,

    Particle masses is probably the biggest enigma out there. Even if it really was the Higgs Boson of the Standard Model that was detected in LHC we still have no clue on how to calculate the particle masses theoretically. This is something a fundamental theory would be able to. Having said that I also attacked the Standard Model of not being fundamental, but it is the best we have so far.

    Best regards,
    Magnus

  607. Dear eernie1,

    Thank you for your questions. Regarding M-Theory there are many interpretations, one of them is that D-Branes, those p-Branes with open ended strings attached, are multiverses and the attached strings are particles in our D3-brane universe. One should understand, though, that the extra dimensions of these theories allow for so many solutions that we can more or less create what fields we like in the 4-dimensional subspace that describes our visible universe. When it comes to choices of internal spaces it is very adhoc and one usually look at spaces that break enough supersymmetry to represent the particle families of the Standard Model and with isometry groups containing the U(1)xSU(2)xSU(3) Gauge Fields. Calabi-Yau is a good candidate for this.

    Best regards,
    Magnus

  608. Dear Giovanni Guerrini,

    You are welcome. Thank you for shown interest.

    Best regards,
    Magnus

  609. eernie1

    Dear Magnus,
    In my previous blog about possible analog descriptions, I stated that the intertwining of the membrane with the universe is difficult unless instigated by a forceable event. The events which may be capable of producing interactions include the formation of black holes, the creation of supernovae, the collapse of neutron stars and the emissions from X ray sources. All these events create great changes in their surroundings and are manifest for very long distances. Some of their properties remain unexplainable but perhaps become more clear when connected to membrane behavior.

  610. Andrea Rossi

    Bob: yes, we used them to heat our factory.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  611. Andrea Rossi

    As soon as the report will have be published, I will give on the JoNP information about where the publication will have been made.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  612. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    How will E-Cat followers find out when the report is published? If you are the first to know, will you announce it here on the JONP?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  613. Bob

    Dear Andrea Rossi

    Do you employ any e-cat devices at your workplaces for a practical use?

    If so, could you briefly describe these applications.

    Thank you.

    Bob

  614. DTravchenko

    I read your answer to Curious, who asked you what is a photon. In few lines you not just answered in a way to allow anybody to understand, but also explained very simply the context of the photons in the quantum mechanics frame, making simple what is not. You could make a very good teacher.
    Warm Regards,
    From Russia, with love
    DT

  615. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    Thank you, but, sincerely, I consider myself much more a student than a teacher.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  616. Alessandro Coppi

    Hi Andrea, you said:” This is the last information I got three days ago.”.
    My question is: the professor while was speaking, looked serious or happy?

    regards
    Alessandro Coppi

  617. Andrea Rossi

    Alessandro Coppi:
    The Professors are always serious. The issue is serious and the consequences of their work will be serious, whatever the results, positive or negative as they might be. I understand your anxiety to know the results, imagine how can I myself be anxious…
    We must be patient, and work in the meantime.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  618. Curiosone

    Mr Rossi:
    Do you think that the discovery of the Higgs Boson will have one day practical application, as it has been with many discoveries originated by pure research ( e.g. Faraday electricity experiments, laser discovery, Curie experiments of radioactivity)?
    W.G.

  619. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    Nice question. There is a foundamental difference between the discoveries made in the past ( like experiments with electricity, discovery of laser, etc) and the discovery of the Higgs boson: the discoveries of the past, even if made by means of pure research, with no immediate application possibilities, have been experiments made in conditions easily repeatable in an industrial system: I mean, easy to produce and use once an application could have been found for. To make in an industrialized system a laser is not an overwhelming issue, analogously to electric apparatuses and radioactivity industrial applications. To find a Higgs boson, on the contrary, has been necessary to build an “apparatus” that costed about 30 billion Euro… with a tremendous complexity also for what concerns its operation. The distance from the CERN concern and industrial applications is in the order of lightyears. For this reason I think there will not be industrial applications of the Higgs boson.Nevertheless, it has been a positive thing to make this research, for two main reasons:
    1- the indirect development of industrial technologies, of practical application, that have been born by means of this work
    2- the innate search spirit of Mankind:
    ” fatti non foste a viver come bruti,
    ma per seguir virtute e conoscenza”
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  620. LMV

    Hi Andrea,

    Are you still hopeful that the report will be released sometime in late June-14?

    I know that it does not depend on you and may be negative.

  621. Andrea Rossi

    LMV:
    So far the scheduled publication is foreseen around the second- third week of June. I confirm that I di not yet know if the results are positive or negative, because the analysis of the data is still under substantial review. This is the last information I got three days ago.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  622. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Have you considered using solar cells to improve the effective COP of the Hot eCat units? Conceptually, each eCat reactor unit would be connected with a heat exchanger where the average temperature of the heat exchanger surface would be 600C. I have not gone through the specific calculations so the added power may not be worth the effort and expense. Something to consider.

  623. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    We are making vast R&D regarding couplings with solar plants. I cannot talk about particulars, due to the necessity to avoid pre- publication of patents in course of application.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  624. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Will the new company continue to produce a Warm eCat and a Hot eCat (as well as other possible eCat variants)?

    In Guatemala, the rural Mayan people typically bath using a steam sauna facility. They burn wood to heat water into steam. They have access to limited amounts of electrical power. Will your warm eCat units, as you envision your product line, be able to supply this energy need? Their electrical energy cost is about 1.5 Q per kWhr or about $0.20USD per kWhr. This would decrease the carbon footprint, be more convenient than buying and transporting wood, decrease de-forestation, and, if the effective COP were high enough, be more economical for them.

  625. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Yes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  626. Joe

    Wladimir,

    Page 8, first paragraph.

    All the best,
    Joe

  627. Wladimir Guglinski

    oe wrote in May 23rd, 2014 at 1:28 PM

    Wladimir,

    In the paper Dark Matter Studies Entrain Nuclear Physics offered by Magnus Holm, it states,

    “There are some problems, the 3Li7 and 3Li6 yields, for example; and these discrepancies have been argued to be signals of new physics
    ———————————

    Joe,
    I found the page.
    There are some considerations I want to do.

    1) First consideration
    Borghi and Conte-Pieralice experiments show that neutron is formed by proton+electron, n=p+e.
    However in current Nuclear Physics the neutron is formed by quarks, n=(d,u,d).

    Such structure of the neutron formed by proton+electron requires a New Physics.
    In my Quantum Ring Theory it is proposed the spin-fusion phenomenon, and it is shown that several reactions of high energy Physics, not explained by the Standard Model, are explained via the spin-fusion phenomenon (according to which there is a hidden lepton hidden in some structures, as the electron in the structure of the neutron, and positrons and electrons hidden in the structure of some mesons, etc.).

    Therefore the current mathematical structure used in the current theories must be changed.

    .

    2) Second consideration

    The question of the formation of nuclei in the sun is not restricted to 3Li6 and 3Li7 only.

    Cold fusion is not considered in the current theories.
    However, cold fusion (LERN) is today a reality, and it makes no sense to neglect its existence.

    According to my new nuclear, all the nuclei have a hole in their Coulomb electric field.
    Some reactions of cold fusion occur thanks to the existence of this hole, because a particle as a proton or a deuteron can enter within a nucleus via that hole.
    This is possible because some special conditions in cold fusion make possible the nuclei to be aligned in a special direction, and so the hole is aligned in that direction, aligned also with the oscillation of the nucleon.

    In the case of the hot fusion, the particles as the proton or deuteron cannot enter within the nuclei via the hole in the Coulomb electric field, because the nuclei have chaotic motion (due to high pressure and temperature), and therefore the hole gyrates chaotically.

    However, from the statistical viewpoint, the particle has chance to penetrate within a nucleus via the hole in the Coulomb electric field (in spite of the chance is very small).

    So, hot fusion can occur via two processes:

    a) Via classical hot fusion:
    A nucleon (proton, deuteron, 2He4) enters within the nuclei because they pierce the Coulomb field (thanks to their high kinetic energy).
    This phenomenon occurs in accordance to the calculations based on current nuclear models, taking in consideration the cross-section of the collisions between nuclei.
    Such hot fusion phenomenon follows all the calculations made according to current theories.

    b) Via cold fusion occured in hot fusion condictions of high pressure-temperature:
    A nucleon enters within the nuclei via the hole (it is not required the big energy required in hot fusion). The fusion occurs via cold fusion.

    So, the cross-section to be considered is not that calculated from the current nuclear models (because they do not consider the hole in the Coulomb electric field).
    This phenomenon does not occur according to the current calculations made in the current theories.

    Therefore, the cold fusion existence can change the parameters in the nucleosynthesis occured in the Sun, since cold fusion requires a new statistics.

    So, in my oppinion there is need to introduce the statistical contribution of the cold fusion in the calculations of the nucleosynthesis phenomenon in the Sun.

    regards
    wlad

  628. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in May 23rd, 2014 at 1:28 PM

    Wladimir,

    In the paper Dark Matter Studies Entrain Nuclear Physics offered by Magnus Holm, it states,

    “There are some problems, the 3Li7 and 3Li6 yields, for example; and these discrepancies have been argued to be signals of new physics
    ————————————–

    Joe,
    what is the page ?

    rds
    wlad

  629. Joe

    Magnus Holm,

    In the paper Dark Matter Studies Entrain Nuclear Physics that you mentioned, it states,

    “The standard model leaves many questions unanswered: it explains, e.g., neither why the weak scale has the value it has, nor the baroque pattern of fermion masses and mixings seen in Nature, nor the size of the observed baryon asymmetry of the Universe (BAU). Most notably, in our current context, it fails to explain dark matter.”

    By the statement “baroque pattern of fermion masses”, is the implication that scientists have yet to discover the mathematical relationship between the masses of the fermions?

    All the best,
    Joe

  630. eernie1

    Dear Magnus,
    Have you conceived an analogy of the membrane theory to the physical world?
    The one that I like is the analogy that describes existence as a series of parallel universes separated by the 11 dimensional membranes. Interaction between membranes of Bosons or Fermions are not allowed because of the non Abelian nature of the interactions until something more forceable intervenes. Some tunneling is allowed but rare and that keeps our universe from undergoing vast changes. The nature of the strings is also non Abelian so infusion of the strings into the adjoining membrane does not create similar particles. The forces in the adjoining membranes also are mitigated by the repulsive character of non allowed QM states.

  631. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    The current eCat reactor uses processed nickel powder of a certain average diameter. You previously reported that the reaction rate was a function of particle size (along with other parameters). With other factors held constant, does the reaction rate increase with smaller average size? What are the practical limits (small and large) for nickel within an eCat reactor?

  632. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Sorry, I cannot give this information.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  633. Joe

    Wladimir,

    In the paper Dark Matter Studies Entrain Nuclear Physics offered by Magnus Holm, it states,

    “There are some problems, the 3Li7 and 3Li6 yields, for example; and these discrepancies have been argued to be signals of new physics, specifically signaling post-BBN [Big Bang Nucleosynthesis] cascade nucleosynthesis stemming from, e.g., super-WIMP decay. However, there may be more prosaic explanations of these issues [...]”

    Do you think QRT is the “new physics” that explains 3Li7 better than “super-WIMP decay”?

    All the best,
    Joe

  634. Giovanni Guerrini

    Dear Dott Magnus Holm,
    thak you very much for the answer and for the reviews,I appreciate it very much.

    Best Regards G G

  635. Italo R.

    Dear Dr Rossi, you have written:
    “…new wave of development without the endemic corruption…”

    I am pessimistic and think that all men are equal independently from their politic ideas.
    I mean: when a man reaches a power position, he becomes like all those he was fighting before.
    Probably it is written in our DNA. It is really sad.

  636. Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.:
    I do not agree. My sensation is that Italy is on the eve of a new Renaissaince.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  637. Dear Giovanni Guerrini,

    Dark Matter was postulated experimentally through observations of velocity discrepancies in spiral arms of galaxies from gravitational solutions to Einstein’s General Relativity Theory. There are now many theories trying to explain what this Dark Matter is and where it comes from. (Enough to be afraid of the Dark). One of these Dark Matter theories is from Branons which are Brane excitations. I am no expertise in the field of Dark Matter to be able to favor one theory from the other but I do believe we are still light years away from a fundamental understanding of everything going on around us in this universe. If you are interested in Dark Matter you might appreciate these 2 reviews on the subject.

    Dark Matter Studies Entrain Nuclear Physics,
    Modified gravity theories explaining dark matter and dark energy.

    Best regards,
    Magnus

  638. Dear Mr. Orsobubu,

    Thank you for your question. From modern Nuclear Physics we know that LENR need to be a collective phenomenon or otherwise the Coulomb Barrier would be unbreachable. Collective Phenomena is unfortunately very hard to handle theoretically because they usually involves multiple coupled non-linear differential equations. Non-Linear Differential equations are very hard to solve theoretically and if we end up with collective phenomena of perhaps 1000s of particles coupled to each other in a non-linear way the task is impossible. The only hope in those cases are numerical solutions and approximations. Having said that, approximate solutions can of course feedback positively on the theoretical approaches but unless some fundamental theory arises from some strike of genius we will probably end up with 100s of approximate explanations competing through the exclusion process of measurements. When it comes to Particle Physics, the field has alternated between being theory driven and experimentally driven and I do believe we are in an experiment driven phase right now in the wait for the next strike of genius theoretically.

    Best regards,
    Magnus

  639. curious

    to who may it concern! As I know, but i could be wrong, it does not exist a complete description of a photon. Even for lower frequencies we can speak about single photon, but I’ve never seen an oscilloscope trace of it. Is it a single wave? or a group a waves increasing and after decreasing following a normal curve or what? And when does it finish and overall start (3-4-5 s or what?) and overall when does it begin? Can you give me some address where to find answer, possibly for ignorant and without too much mathematics
    Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I would understand.
    Thanks
    Curious

  640. Andrea Rossi

    Curious:
    Physics:
    A photon is an elementary quantum of light. It cannot be decomposed ( unless it interacts with another elementary particle and becomes another thing) and is stable, therefore is a real particle ( differently from virtual particles- which are nothing but resonances during the interactions between stable elementary particles- whose life is less than 10^-23 seconds). It does not respect the Pauli principle of exclusion and therefore is a Boson. It is characterized with extreme precision by its wavelength and his frequency. Its energy is given by the equation
    E = h x f
    wherein f is the frequency and h is the Planck constant. From this equation you can see that, being h constant, the higher the frequency, the higher the energy. The most energetic photons are the gamma rays. More higher frequency, obviously, means shorter wavelength.
    From this equation you can also understand that a photon is a precise and indivisible quantum of energy, along the Quantistic Mechanic. In the everyday life you can distinguish several photons, whose wavelength is within the visible specter: the colors we can see, like red, green, yellow etc are the consequences for our eyes of the different wavelengths of different photons. If you want to know exactly how long is a photon, Google ” light spectrum” and you will find how long is a specific photon in metric system units ( remember that, for example, 1 nm- nanometer- is 1 billionth of meter).
    Photons travel in the space at the speed of the light, because they are massless: in fact, all massless particles travel at the speed of the light.
    Photons are the bearers of the electromagnetic interactions ( one of the four foundamental interactions: the other three are the strong, the weak and the gravitational).
    The limits of a single photon are defined by its wavelength and the corresponding electric and magnetic fields. Its life can be infinite, provided it does not interact with some other elementary particle : in fact we can detect today with the modern astronomic observatories photons produced with the Big Bang about 14 billions of years ago ( to remain single sometime makes the life longer).
    All the photons have Spin 1 and electric charge 0.
    Phylosophy:
    This description is that of the Standard Model, therefore, sooner or later, is destined to be considered wrong; paradoxically, the fact that in some different condition the Standard Model is falsifiable, makes it true and valid ( Popper, Fermat).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  641. Alessandro Coppi

    Thank you for your kind words about Italy.

    O noi o loro!
    Alessandro Coppi

  642. Dear Andrew,
    E-Cat technology will also be sold in Italy or as written on some sites only in countries such as the Netherlands, the United States and China?
    In Italy and Croatia soon trivelleranno the entire Adriatic Sea to extract more oil.
    When you think about your technology will come to Italy?
    We are all with you!

  643. Andrea Rossi

    Ing. Michelangelo De Meo:
    If the results of third independent party and of the R&D in course will be positive ( remind that they could be negative, as far as I know so far), this technology will be at the service of whomever will really want to use it, indipendently fom the geographig belonging.
    About Italy: I have not any political connection, obviously, not living anymore in Italy, but still I hope M5S will win, to give to Italy a new wave of development without the endemic corruption that has devastated this wonderful Country, that still has a powerful potential.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  644. mpc755

    Aether has mass and physically occupies three dimensional space.

    There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter anchored to matter.

    Matter moves through and displaces the aehter.

    The Milky Way’s halo is not dark matter traveling along with the matter the Milky Way consists of.

    The Milky Way’s halo is the state of displacement of the aether.

    The Milky Way’s halo is curved spacetime.

    What is referred to geometrically as curved spacetime is the state of displacement of the aether.

  645. What is the proof of the existence of the aether?
    Is it only a conjecture like the “strong force” in nuclear physics?

  646. Eric Ashworth

    Wladimir, I could not agree with you more with what you say May 21st 2014 at 5.06 pm. The bottom line is that there is a secret being kept with regards atomic physics. I have been involved with this subject for 25 years non academic and I believe this secret is with regards the the macro system of evolution. How can I say this you may ask, because I have been in contact with people who have confirmed this information and I know you have been through the same gamut yourself. Your QR theory is correct. The unified field is from a binary system of energy/aether. The middle principle being the life force of nature but in the understanding of a duality to form a triplicity involving a life force seems to be a great secret and therefore a denial will always be present. I do have an embodied concept with regards a binary system of interaction that creates a unified field but alas it has been rejected at the higher level whenerver reached with an explanation of either it’s before its time or it’s destructive technology. Your theory involves an understanding of Ana and Douglas which to me is a binaryu system of interaction and this is the same as my embodied concept that demonstrates a unified field. The neutron has to a constructive dimension that relies upon two absolutes to exist. This subject I believe is about geometry and aether. I do not think the basics are difficult to understand but it is like a ball of wool, how many knots can you make from a single thread to make a ball complicated. It is now time I believe to put forward a statement, this statement is my personal experience with regards atomic/astrophysics an embodied concept and reactions of academia. Our present academic system with regards certain aspects of knowledge must never reveal the true nature of reality because if it does it will reveal a necessary triplicity of interaction that must exist to form a stable structure and this involves planetary evolution with regards humanity. It really is not difficult to understand why the fundamental problems in modern physics exist and why embodied concepts together with experimental data are disregarded. Thanks for the information, all the best Eric Ashworth.

  647. Wladimir Guglinski

    Koen Vandewalle wrote in May 21st, 2014 at 5:06 PM

    My question:
    What are the chances that the developers of microprocessors and memory would not have a nearly perfect model of the physical structure existing in Nature.
    This knowledge is in private hands, who have interest in the scientific community being erroneous about it.
    ——————————

    dear Koen,

    the discovery of the physical structure existing in the Nature requires the discovery of the following:

    - the discovery of the physical model of photon (there no exist a physical model of photon in current theories).

    - the discovery of the true physical model of proton, electron, neutron, and neutrino/antineutrino (which are the unique five stable elementary particles of matter in the Universe)

    - the discovery of the true physical nuclear model existing in the nature (the experiments along the 5 past years are showing that current nuclear models are wrong).

    - the discovery of the true physical model of atom (working with the partnership of the aether in the elecrosphere)

    - the discovery of the true physical model of the aether

    .

    I dont think the developers of microprocessors have chance to get any near approach to the structures mentioned above.

    regards
    wlad

  648. Koen Vandewalle

    Wladimir Guglinski,
    You wrote:

    So, in order to discover the final theory of Physics, there is need to discover such physical structure existing in the Nature.

    My question:
    What are the chances that the developers of microprocessors and memory would not have a nearly perfect model of the physical structure existing in Nature.
    This knowledge is in private hands, who have interest in the scientific community being erroneous about it.

    The utmost important science or its key-factors that are under industrial or military secrets will not be in peer reviewed journals, I believe. Not in a hundred years.

    So, the louder they call “Wrong !” the more interesting it becomes. The battle with an overzealous gatekeeper reveals the presence of a nearby gate, isn’t it ?

    Best Regards,
    Koen

  649. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Many months ago you discussed a possible direct eCat to electricity conversion. As I recall, it was a secondary effect you saw and were investigating.

    1. What is the status of your research?

    2. Does this look practical or is the more conventional Carnot cycle the better option?

  650. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    1- R&D
    2- Carnot cycle is the more efficient conversion cycle to apply, so far.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  651. Giovanni Guerrini

    Dr Magnus Holm.
    Dear Dr Holm,what do you think about the theoretical possibility that a gravitatonal interaction among branes gives the effects observed that led to postulate the existence of dark matter ?

    Thank you.

    Regards G G

  652. Wladimir Guglinski

    orsobubu wrote in May 18th, 2014 at 5:09 PM

    Neil Turok at Perimeter Institute concedes that theorists are disheartened at that situation, and that they are at a crossroad in theoretical (and particle) physics, calling it a deep crisis. He described the LHC results as “simple, yet extremely puzzling” and said “we have to get people to try to find the new principles that will explain the simplicity”.
    —————————————–

    Dear Orsobubu

    of course there is a physical structure of matter and aether existing in the Nature.

    So, in order to discover the final theory of Physics, there is need to discover such physical structure existing in the Nature.
    With such a procedure, the physical structure can be complex, but the mathematics to be used will be simple.

    But the attempt made by the physicists is via mathematical structure. With such a procedure, the mathematical structure is complex, since the physicists start from the most simplest physical structures.

    But there is no doubt: they will never succeed with such attempt starting from the complex mathematical structure, because the physical structure existing in the Nature is more complex than the simple physical structure considered in their current theories.

    regards
    wlad

  653. Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in May 20th, 2014 at 7:40 AM

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Time for peer reviewing is longer now for publications on the Journal of Nuclear Physics: the average is 6 months, so do not worry if you will have to wait several months before the publication.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    ———————————————

    Dear Andrea,
    no problem.

    the science progresses slowly

    regards
    wlad

  654. This may be of interest …. turning photons into electrons and positrons?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-27470034

    Rodney.

  655. Andrea Rossi

    Rodney Nicholson:
    Thank you for the link, very interesting.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  656. Wladimir Guglinski

    From: wladimirguglinski@hotmail.com
    To: info@leonardocorp1996.com
    Subject: submission paper
    Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 09:09:27 -0300

    Dear Andrea

    I would like to submit for publication in the Journal of Nuclear Physics my paper

    Aether Structure for unification between gravity and electromagnetism

    Please find it attached enclose

    regards
    Wladimir Guglinski
    ————————————————-

    .

    Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 14:22:23 +0200
    From: info@leonardocorp1996.com
    To: wladimirguglinski@hotmail.com
    Subject: Re: submission paper

    All right, sent to peer reviewing.
    Warmest Regards,
    Andrea

  657. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Time for peer reviewing is longer now for publications on the Journal of Nuclear Physics: the average is 6 months, so do not worry if you will have to wait several months before the publication.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  658. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    The humanitarian work that you mention Industrial Heat will be involved with — will this be using E-Cat technology?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  659. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Also.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  660. Wladimir Guglinski

    Eric Ashworth wrote in May 19th, 2014 at 6:45 PM

    Wladimir, With you being in touch with academia I would like to know whether people in mainstream physics believe in the aether.
    —————————————–

    Dear Eric

    in spite of the experiment published in the journal Nature in 2013 is the definitive proof on the existence of the aether, the community of physicists continues rejecting the aether.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/Light-created-from-vacuum-shows-empty-space-a-myth/articleshow/10789049.cms?referral=PM

    The experiment shows that Einstein was wrong.
    But it is hard for the scientific community to accept that he was wrong.

    regards
    wlad

  661. Eric Ashworth

    Wladimir, With you being in touch with academia I would like to know whether people in mainstream physics believe in the aether. If not what do they consider atoms to be made of. I have read about dark matter and I think they are refering to the aether, a name is just a name. What do you think?. Also I believe that geometry and maths exists because of aether. I am curious with regards this very basic question that I feel is necessary regarding a substance that must account for everything because if basic understanding is flawed nothing onward will make any sense. Regards Eric Ashworth.

  662. orsobubu

    I like that personalities in cold fusion field, as Dr. Magnus Holm, are experienced in high level theoretical physics. I feel somehow reassured. I would be very interested myself in the subject, but I cannot progress further the third line of the introduction of the article, since it is a long time – sigh! – I can’t even remember what is an abelian group or a surjective homomorphism. Here is a simple link for dummies:

    http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/string-theory-and-supersymmetry.html

    This is an extract from Wikipedia explaining the current state of crisis among scientists in the field of Standard Model theories, particle physics and gravity.

    ——-
    The first realistic supersymmetric version of the Standard Model was proposed in 1981 by Howard Georgi and Savas Dimopoulos and is called the Minimal Supersymmetric Standard Model or MSSM for short. It was proposed to solve the hierarchy problem and predicts superpartners with masses between 100 GeV and 1 TeV.

    As of September 2011, no meaningful signs of the superpartners have been observed.The Large Hadron Collider at CERN is producing the world’s highest energy collisions and offers the best chance at discovering superparticles for the foreseeable future.

    After the discovery of the Higgs particle in 2012, it was expected that supersymmetric particles would be found at CERN, but there has been still no evidence of them. The LHCb and CMS experiments at the LHC made the first definitive observation of a Strange B meson decaying into two muons, confirming a standard model prediction, but a blow for those hoping for signs of supersymmetry. Neil Turok at Perimeter Institute concedes that theorists are disheartened at that situation, and that they are at a crossroad in theoretical (and particle) physics, calling it a deep crisis. He described the LHC results as “simple, yet extremely puzzling” and said “we have to get people to try to find the new principles that will explain the simplicity”.
    ——

    Differently from social sciences, where the ultimate reality is already crystal-clear for 150 years (the reality of the Capital, the exploitation of man by other men), I think that in natural sciences our mathematics and “standard mdodels” are very, very unsatisfactory.

    I would like to know if Dr. Magnus Holm’s interest in cold fusion is due to these difficulties and inconsistencies in his field of research, and if he believes LENRs studies could help in the process of scientific knowledge in general.

    (Being a little masochist, I would also like to make a poll to know to what extent of the article each reader of JONP is able to understand it, as I said I can reach – with a certain shameful difficulty – the third line of the introduction.)

  663. Andrea Rossi

    Orsobubu:
    Thank you for your comment, that indroduces us to the paper published today on the Journal of Nuclear Physics:
    GEOMETRY OF STRING THEORY SOLITONS
    by Dr Magnus Holm . It is an important work of this scientist made in 1999, but I find his work dense of important information. It is not an easy reading, the work is rigorous, but this is the Journal of Nuclear Physics, and the paper is perfectly in line with the field of application of our Journal. Dr Magnus Holm is presently working also with me for the E-Cat.
    About the comment of our friend Orsobubu: I do not share his certainties regarding the so called “social sciences”.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  664. Steven N. Karels

    Greetings from Guatemala,

    I am on a medical mission trip. This week we serviced 285 Mayan Indians near Chichicastenago. I worked in the Lab doing urine and blood testing. Guatemala, the fourth poorest country in the world, could definitely use eCat technology for heating. I previously prepared and delivered a couple of Village Water Purification systems and they are in use. 10 to 12 more have been requested for my October trip. They are provided at no cost.

  665. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Congratulation for your effort in Guatemala, you have all my admiration. The Industrial Heat Group is making a strong work of this kind in Africa, where will be destined a substantial part of the proceeds of our activity.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  666. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Since the time that Industrial Heat announced they had acquired the E-Cat, what has been the level of interest in your technology from business and industry interest been like? Have you been talking with people interested in seeing the E-Cat in operation?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  667. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Yes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  668. Wladimir Guglinski

    Koen Vandewalle wrote in May 17th, 2014 at 7:54 AM

    Wladimir,

    Indeed, we need to study simplest magnet motors. Does your Figueiredo Motor work in an aluminum box ? Or is it influenced by a thick aluminum plate ?
    —————————————-

    Koen,
    I dont know.
    I did not test it within an aluminium box, nor the influence by a thick aluminium plate

    regards
    wlad

  669. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    My point was the critic are “clutching at straws” in their attempts to explain away the success of last year’s eCat testing. When analyzed, their claims are not credible. But they serve the greater purpose of improving the testing protocol for this years tests.

  670. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    You are right, critics have been very useful. We learnt from them.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  671. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I am curious how the critics of last year’s study can suggest that the excess power was due to an unobserved DC component. As I recall, the computed average COP was around 3 and the total output power was around 12 kiloWatts. For all the excess heat, around 8 kiloWatts, to be attributed to a DC component would require a large current (e.g., 80 Amps @ 100 Volts). I understood the applied power was European current, 220 VAC, so the single phase current would be around 20 Amps. Would not the power cabling to additionally handle 8 kiloWatts of power be noticed?

  672. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Anyway, the issue has been foreseen in the test protocol this year and the electric power at the input has been measured also to detect with precision any direct current contribution. As I said, in 2013 it has not been done because the issue was totally out of the mind of everybody.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  673. Enrico Billi

    Engineers are improving the performances of the prototypes, patent pending…
    KEEP CALM AND
    lavoLaLe lavoLaLe,

    Enrico Billi

  674. Koen Vandewalle

    Wladimir,
    you wrote: May 16th, 2014 at 8:53 PM

    “It is hard to discover the structure of the aether from the analysis of the working of those prototypes.

    In order to discover the underlying mechanisms responsible for the magnet motors working, we need to study simplest magnet motors.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMYy4nioQXM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWxFW531lXM

    One of the differences between these video’s and the video’s with the device well working, is the presence of the trolley made ​​of aluminum.
    With the device opened, it can be seen that it consists of materials with different magnetic permeability. This may be to guide or to cut several magnetic fields -which could be flows of aether- depending on the position of the internal magnets.

    In analogy with wind turbines, which need flows of air, and therefor are set up preferably outdoors, and solar panels, which need to be in the light and not in the dark basement, maybe these magnetic machines are driven by the flows of magnetism (or aether if you like) around us. This time, fortunately, the 24/7 presence of this magnetic wind may be in our advantage even if it is not completely constant.

    Indeed, we need to study simplest magnet motors. Does your Figueiredo Motor work in an aluminum box ? Or is it influenced by a thick aluminum plate ?

    Questions to ask: Are our thoughts and dreams influenced by the aether ? Is it safe to tap in this source ? The big tap in the black stuff from under the ground was not completely safe, so it seems by now.

    That other video, Mark referenced to, with the not so well built device: It is harmfull and disturbing, because one needs technical knowledge and experience to understand what the problems are. This makes that a lot of people loose their initial interest in new energy technologies and loose their trust in some of the creative minds, whose voices are not always loud enough, and whose financial means are not large enough to finance all the R&D and PR. Since we don’t have AI, or methods to inherit creativity, that creativity dies with the person. So the time that is available
    This also makes that lots of people only believe the known and accepted sources of scientific information and education, although these are not the only sources of science.
    We don’t even need a conspiracy. It is the inflation of the individual creativity in our times.
    This slows us down, while we urgently need to speed some important changes.
    Thousands of years ago, someone wrote some 10 good advises on a couple of stones. One of it: You should not lie.
    A lie is everything that intentionally makes someone else misunderstand, and intentionally does not check the good comprehension if early signs of misunderstanding do occur.
    The harm done to humanity through lies and misinformation is so huge and may even lead to the extinct of our species.

    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  675. Enrico Billi

    Dear Andrea,
    using graphene and quarz, it is possible to make electricity thanks to the properties of electrons when they are squeezed on a 2D layer like graphene. As quantum physics says these electrons becames “anyons” so their properties changes and electrons became superconductive. Quarz release electrons when it is warm so you can make electricity directly without turbines or stirling engines.

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DO3aq919Xcs/Uz9JHbyYGtI/AAAAAAAAAa8/OOxwVkAgEiM/s1600/CellaEnergeticaStatoSolido.png

    Do you think it could helpfull for you e-cat?
    LavoLaLe lavoLaLe

    Enrico Billi

  676. Andrea Rossi

    Enrico Billi:
    I am still waiting for your proposal for graphene bi-dimensional power generation concept.
    Lavolale, lavolale!
    A.

  677. Wladimir Guglinski

    Mark wrote in May 15th, 2014 at 4:35 AM

    Wlad,

    someone else has already done this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHW6b1aFPfU

    and has got the patent
    ————————————————

    Mark
    the problem with the magnet motors like that invented by Muammer Yildiz is because they are very complex, and it is hard to discover the magnetic mechanism underlying its working.

    It is hard to discover the structure of the aether from the analysis of the working of those prototypes.

    In order to discover the underlying mechanisms responsible for the magnet motors working, we need to study simplest magnet motors.

    This is ther reason why I consider the Figueiredo Motor very important for the discovery of the structure of the aether.
    In the future the scientific community will understand what I am saying.

    regards
    wlad

  678. Curiosone

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    Is important the allotropic state of the nickel molecules in the E-Cat?
    W.G.

  679. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    Are allotropic states important? You make me remind a lesson of Chemistry of my Prof. Carlo Vezzoli, when I was in the High School (Liceo Scientifico “Alessandro Volta” of Milan, Italy), in 1966. I asked him how important was the allotropic difference in cristals. He answered me: ” Suppose a boy dates a girl that likes him, but not enough to be his girlfriend, yet; suppose he gives her either a diamond or a piece of graphite: from her reaction he will feel the difference of the effects deriving from different allotropic states of the same atoms”. I understood: allotropic differences count, oh, yes! Nowadays, though, to avoid to be accused of machism, is necessary to add that this example CONSERVES THE PARITY: if you put him at the place of her, the effects are conserved.
    p.s. I cannot give information regarding what happens inside the E-Cat.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  680. DTravchenko

    Thank you for the three answers, and again
    Godspeed, from Russia, with love
    D.T.

  681. Giovanni Guerrini

    @Mark,
    of course!
    If someone will get more energy then that excanged between the standings potential-kinetics-potential-…etc,postulate that the thermodynamics laws are right,it would mean that the surplus of energy would come from an unknown source.
    It would be an epochal discovery and I will be happy to pay a pizza to all friens of the blog !

    Regards G G

  682. Wladimir Guglinski

    Mark wrote in May 15th, 2014 at 8:57 PM

    No Wlad,
    Since I found out that others have built far more advanced working prototypes and tested at university. Not much points for me. Late June, may be a report on magnet motor study will come out (not 100% sure but that what I heard from colleagues)
    ——————————————-

    Mark
    the advanced prototypes are build with the aim of getting energy with to be used in homes, industry, etc.

    the prototype proposed by me has not comercial value.
    However, in the case it works, it is very important from the theoretical viewpoint, because if it works it defies the current theories.

    The Michelson-Morley experiment has not any advantage from the practical viewpoint. But the experiment was very important from the theoretical viewpoint, because its result required to change the current theories at that time.

    We cannot be worried only about what is commercial, or not.

    As my prototype is very easy to be made, I supposed you did it.

    regards
    wlad

  683. Mark

    No Wlad,
    Since I found out that others have built far more advanced working prototypes and tested at university. Not much points for me. Late June, may be a report on magnet motor study will come out (not 100% sure but that what I heard from colleagues)

    Mark

    P.S your bet with GG I think you will win the pizza.

  684. Patrick Ellul

    She is credited with writing the first book discussing both differential and integral calculus.
    Maria was recognized early on as a child prodigy;
    By age fourteen she was studying ballistics and geometry.
    She could speak 7 languages.
    Agnesi suffered a mysterious illness at the age of 12 that was attributed to her excessive studying and was prescribed vigorous dancing and horseback riding.
    She devoted the last four decades of her life to studying theology (especially patristics) and to charitable work and serving the poor.
    The Witch of Agnesi curve is named after her.
    She was born this day (16th May… I’m in Sydney Australia) in 1718.
    source: wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Gaetana_Agnesi

  685. Andrea Rossi

    Patrick Ellul:
    Thank you!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  686. Patrick Ellul

    Thanks to Google I have just learn about Maria Gaetana Agnesi, mathematician and philosopher. She hails from University of Bologna. Today would be her 296th Birthday.

  687. Andrea Rossi

    Patrick Ellul:
    Can you tell us more about her?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  688. Dave K

    I wouldn’t worry too much about critics of the test report. Some people still believe the earth is flat, even though I believe there are several reports to the contrary. When knowledge is put to commercial use, hypothetical arguments are pointless. They may never die, but they will be cast aside as irrelevant. In taking the approach to commercialize, Mr. Rossi is exactly right. A product in the hand is worth many theories in the bush.

  689. Andrea Rossi

    Dave K:
    You made some point.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  690. DTravchenko

    Beware, Andrea Rossi:
    Here is what we discovered about the bloggers that attack you every day, full time, whatever you do, on every blog, whatever is written :
    Steve Krivit, alias Gary Wright, alias X-Prixe, alias Al Potenza, alias Ascoli: drop out of middle school because not able to pass the exam, acts as a “Nuclear Physic Expert in LENR” and a scientific Journalist too (apparently a joke). His blog is Newenergytimes, but his pseudonyms make more blogs by the day, to sustain himself and give the impression to be a crowd. But it is just him and a handful of other morons. He hates you because, as a partner in Lattice LLC, he lost funding as a consequence of the fact that you scooped them in January 2011. At the beginning they tried to buy you, to make you adopt their theory, but when you , in 2011, published that you considered wrong the Widom Larsen theory because of the broken leptons conservation law, they decided to try to kill your character by libelling.
    Mary Yugo: his real name is George Hody, alias Disqus, friend of “Gary Wright”: lives in San Diego, California, infamous for writing untrue things ( has been banned from Steorn for this reason): totally void of any real scientific background, copies “Gary Wright”.
    But I must add also a consideration against you, because if they can produce all this bullshit against you is because you allow them the room to do it: for example, in the independent report published on Arxiv on May 2013 there has been left room to criticize the report regarding the lack of a control of the incoming electric energy, leaving space for the assumption that direct current could be arrived to the E-Cat, because the PCE 830 is not able to detect the direct current, so one can assume that you injected surreptitiously direct current that has not been measured. This has been a big mistake and now you pay for it. Also the decision to develope your technology only in the USA and in China is wrong.
    You have more friends than you can imagine, and we despise the snakes that make and made false accusations against you, but sometime you give the impression that the worst enemy of yourself is yourself.
    Godspeed, from Russia, with love,
    D.T.

  691. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    I do not know if what you say is true or not, and I do not know who you are to say those things, but the issues regarding the 2013 report on Arxiv merits three answers:
    1- the report has not been made by me
    2- the issue of the lack of control of the direct current arrived into the reactor’s resistances is true, as we have seen, but nobody has thought , when the report has been written, to check this point, that was totally out of the minds of all, when the test protocol has been made. As you surely know ( I can see that you have some source of information) a new report is in preparation, for a long run test, and this time the Professors of the Third Independent Party have taken advantage of the experience of the last year’s test, and have considered all the observations made after the test of 2013 from all the Readers of the report that made comments about it and criticized it. The issue of the measurement of the direct current, for example, has been taken in strong consideration, as well as many other particulars. Two factors have strongly improved the test made this year: the experience that the Professors made in 2013 and meditated upon for 1 year in the particulars, also studying all the critics they received, and the length of the test, that allowed a deep knowledge of the operation. Another important factor of difference is the fact that the test has been made in a neutral laboratory, not of our property, wherein the energy source ( PLUG) was not of ours and the Professors made the set up from the plug to the control box.
    3- It is not true that we decided to develope our technology only in USA and China.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  692. Wladimir Guglinski

    Mark wrote in May 13th, 2014 at 12:55 AM

    Wlad,

    I did the thought experiment, and the results of the test made, could be positive but also could be negative.
    I guess I have to wait till late June for something more solid.
    ———————————————————-

    REPLY:

    1) Mark, I supposed you built the magnet device proposed by me and is testing it

    Didn’t you ?

    2) What do you mean to say with “I guess I have to wait till late June for something more solid” ?

    regards
    wlad

  693. fabio

    sono alcuni anni che la seguo nel suo traguardo ho sempre sperato che potesse portar a termine il suo lavoro .oggi mi metto in lista per acquistare uno dei primi E-cat .attendo il vostro successo e quello per il futuro dei miei figli

  694. Andrea Rossi

    Fabio:
    If the results will be negative, we will analyze the report of the Third Independent Party throughly, analyze our errors, work to correct the mistakes. So far we do not know which will be the results, therefore I cannot make any more specific comment about your question.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  695. Joe

    Dr Rossi,

    Can you please give me your business e-mail address?

    All the best,
    Joe

  696. Andrea Rossi

    Joe:
    you can send your email to
    info@leonardocorp1996.com
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  697. Fabio82

    Dear Andrea, what should you do if it will be released a negative report?
    regards
    Fabio

  698. Mark

    Wlad,

    someone else has already done this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHW6b1aFPfU

    and has got the patent
    Mark

  699. Giovanni Guerrini

    Dear Wladimir G.,
    we know that every point in a field,has its potential energy.
    Here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion there is the explanation of the thing we are talking about,made better than I could do.
    However,the (uni?)verse is a strange place and I try to keep my mind open,making attention that my brain doesn’t falls on the ground (Piero Angela).
    So,if you make an experimet in which you will get more energy than that you give to the system,you’ll get the Nobel,otherwise you’ll pay a pizza.
    In this event I’ll bring beers !

    Regards G G

  700. Wladimir Guglinski

    Dear Giovanni Guerrini

    are you agree that the magnet-device must stop its oscillation faster than the bar-device ? (because the energy supplied by the finger to the spring in the bar-device is larger than the energy supplied by the finger to the spring in the magnet-device)

    regards
    wlad

  701. Wladimir Guglinski

    Daniel De Caluwé
    May 14th, 2014 at 4:31 PM

    @Wladimir and Mark,

    What I learned from some video’s (Bearden – Bedini) in the past, is that _maybe_ (if the mechanism is real and works and if you’re very lucky ;-) ) you can succeed in subtracting energy from the ether/aether (or the vacuüm), by using what Bearden and Bedini call ‘Tesla-impulse-networks’. So you need to work with (electro-magnetic) circuits where switches are used, and then you have to look for the right frequency of switching.
    —————————————————

    Daniel,
    the Figueiredo Motor does not use electro-magnetic circuits

    http://peswiki.com/index.php/Article:_How_magnet_motors_work

    I had replicated the Figueiredo Motor, and it works

    It uses basically a paper sheet (the rotor) and a magnet. The rotor gyrates.
    It has not practical use, since the energy generated is very small.
    However it is the proof that energy comes from somewhere not explained by Classical Physics.

    The extraction of energy from the aether by using LENR or magnetism occurs via several different mechanisms.

    regards
    wlad

  702. Wladimir Guglinski

    Giovanni Guerrini wrote in May 14th, 2014 at 8:34 AM

    @Mark
    the car moves with the work that you have given putting the system in a not balanced standing.

    @Wladimir
    you can measure the force of the finger and the Joule given by the led all more the heat by the friction.

    Superman bet a pizza that will be the same.

    Superegards G G
    ————————————————-

    Mark,
    you can also test a third device, as follows:

    In the original magnet-device, you replace the magnet by an irong bar with the same size and the same weight of the magnet.

    The difference between the magnet-device and the bar-device is the followig:

    1) In the magnet-device the spring force Fs and the magnetic force Fm are in contrary direction when you compresses the magnet with the finger. Therefore the force applied by your finger is F = Fs – Fm.
    The force on the spring is Fs – Fm = K.x
    x = (Fs-Fm)/K
    And so the energy supplied by your finger is E= 0,5.K.[(Fs-Fm)/K]² = 0,5(Fs-Fm)²/K

    2) In the bar-device the force applied by your finger is Fs= K.x
    x = Fs/K
    And the energy supplied by your finger is E= 0,5.K.(Fs/K)² = 0,5.Fs²/K

    Therefore,
    the energy supplied by your finger in the bar-device is very biggest then the energy supplied by your finger in the magnet-device.

    As the energy supplied by your finger is wasted in friction, we have the following conclusion ahead.

    CONCLUSION:
    As the energy supplied by your finger in the bar-device is very biggest, therefore:

    a) the bar-device must keep the oscillatory motion during a long time, because the energy supplied by your finger is very large.

    b) while the magnet-device must keep the oscillatory motion during a very short time, because the energy supplied by your finger is very small.

    c) Therefore, in the case the magnet-device stops to oscillate in a time very shorter than the bar-device, we will conclude that Mr. Giovanni Guerrini is right, and the energy wasted in the spring and the bearing is indeed the energy supplied by your finger, as he claims.

    regards
    wlad

  703. Mark

    @GG
    It would be positive if the total energy required to produce the magnet, is far less than the total energy generated by the magnet in an isolated system experiment from other forces.

    If negative, the magnet could be viewed as a storage of energy, which turned the steel bar into a magnet originally.

    Some rare earth magnets like those in your headphones are exceptionally strong and can last a very long time and certainly works are being done. The interesting question, is energy conservation held?

    Mark

  704. Wladimir Guglinski

    Giovanni Guerrini wrote in May 14th, 2014 at 8:34 AM

    @Mark
    the car moves with the work that you have given putting the system in a not balanced standing.

    @Wladimir
    you can measure the force of the finger and the Joule given by the led all more the heat by the friction.

    Superman bet a pizza that will be the same.

    Superegards G G
    ————————————————-

    Mark,
    let us test other second experiment, as follows:

    1) Instead of to use a magnet, you will use an iron bar, with the same size and the same weight of the magnet.

    2) Suppose in the device with magnet you used a spring with elastic constant K. So, the energy supplied by your finger is E= 0,5.K.x²

    3) Fix the iron bar in the vertical position, between two vertical walls. The bar will be suported by the axis fit in the two bearing rotation.

    4) Between the two walls you fix two springs horizontally, one at each side of the bar. So, while one spring is compressed, the other is streched. The springs are also fixed in the vertical walls.

    5) Each spring must have an elastic constant K/2. So, the energy of each spring is E= 0,5.(K/2).x² , and therefore the total energy of the two springs is E= 0,5.K.x² (the same energy accumulated in the spring of the device made with the magnet).

    6) Apply your finger in the bar, so that to compress one of the springs (the other will be streched).

    7) As the energy accumulated in the two springs is the same energy accumulated in the spring of the device using the magnet, this is the energy which will be wasted in the two springs and in the two bearing rotation.

    Suppose the device with the magnet oscillates during a time T. Then this new second device also has to oscillate along the same time T.

    Pay attention that, according to Mr. Giovanni Guerrini, the amplitude of the oscillatory motion of the magnet and the bar must be decreasing slowly in the two devices (the amplitude cannot be conserved in any of the two devices).

    Would you like to test it ?

    regards
    wlad

  705. Daniel De Caluwé

    @Wladimir and Mark,

    What I learned from some video’s (Bearden – Bedini) in the past, is that _maybe_ (if the mechanism is real and works and if you’re very lucky ;-) ) you can succeed in subtracting energy from the ether/aether (or the vacuüm), by using what Bearden and Bedini call ‘Tesla-impulse-networks’. So you need to work with (electro-magnetic) circuits where switches are used, and then you have to look for the right frequency of switching. There are Bearden-Bedini video’s where they realised to subtract energy from the ether/aether/vacuüm, by using electro-magnetic circuits with switches that are opened and closed at certain frequencies, and when you use the right circuits with the righ frequencies, then the energy from the ether/aether/vacuüm comes in. There even was a situation with an experiment of Bedini, where somebody noticed that the environment cooled, while loading a battery with what Bedini calls ‘radiant energy’ (energy from the ether/aether/vacuüm), and this behavior is quite opposite to the normal heating of circuits by the Joule-effect. So, although this is against all rules of classical physics, you maybe will find some effects, by using rapid switching. And then it all depends of the fine-tuning of the circuits… But again, untill it is proven and widely accepted, at the moment, this still is not established science…

    Kind Regards,

  706. Giovanni Guerrini

    @Mark
    the car moves with the work that you have given putting the system in a not balanced standing.

    @Wladimir
    you can measure the force of the finger and the Joule given by the led all more the heat by the friction.

    Superman bet a pizza that will be the same.

    Superegards G G

  707. Wladimir Guglinski

    Giovanni Guerrini wrote in May 14th, 2014 at 1:52 AM

    Of course,the led is lighted by the finger.

    ——————————————–

    yes,
    of course the energy of the finger is able to supply energy to the led along years

    Mark has a very strong finger, indeed …

    Mark, are you a Superman ?
    hahahaha

    regards
    wlad

  708. orsobubu

    More clues on Scientific American on neutron’s behavior that baffles the Standard Model

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/13/neutron-decay-mystery-physicists_n_5316963.html?utm_hp_ref=science

  709. Andrea Rossi

    orsobubu:
    Thank you, for the link.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  710. Dear Andrea,
    I happened to come across the following science news (http://news.rice.edu/2013/10/07/white-graphene-halts-rust-in-high-temps-2/):

    “Atomically thin sheets of hexagonal boron nitride (h-BN) have the handy benefit of protecting what’s underneath from oxidizing even at very high temperatures, Rice University researchers have discovered. One or several layers of the material sometimes called ‘white graphene’ keep materials from oxidizing – or rusting – up to 1100 degrees Celsius, and can be made large enough for industrial applications.”

    My speculation: If this works, then perhaps one doesn’t need stainless steel in a hot environment, but can use cheaper iron coated with this material. I’m thinking of the outer wall of the Hotcat.

    regards, /pekka

  711. Andrea Rossi

    Pekka Janhunen:
    It depends on the cost too.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  712. Wladimir Guglinski

    Dear Andrea Rossi

    In the case the test of my thought experiment will be positive, I will baptize my invention as e-Dog (Energy Device of Guglinski).

    My e-Dog will generate electricity, and it will be the most harder competitor of your e-Cat… hahaha

    And I’m going to patent my invention.

    But unfortunatelly my invention cannot be put in the market, because anybody can made his own e-Dog.
    Then at least I will accomplish that old dream of Tesla, so that to give free energy to everybody… hahaha

    regards
    wlad

  713. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Good luck!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  714. orsobubu

    More clues on Scientific American on neutron’s behavior that baffles the Standard Model

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/13/neutron-decay-mystery-physicists_n_5316963.html?utm_hp_ref=science

  715. Giovanni Guerrini

    Of course,the led is lighted by the finger.

    Regards G G

  716. Mark

    @GG

    Stick a strong magnet infront of a small toy car and load the car with a mass. Now bring an iron bar close to the car, which will accelerate towards the iron bar.
    Isn’t that work done W =F *d?
    It would be positive if the energy or work required to produce the magnet is proven to be far less than the energy or work done by the magnet.

    Mark

  717. Wladimir Guglinski

    Dear Mark,
    as the alternate motion of the magnet has an oscillatory magnetic field, if you put a coil in font of the magnet then an electric AC current will be induced in the coil.

    If you put a led in the circuit of the coil, the led can be lighted.

    Please try it

    regards
    wlad

  718. Koen Vandewalle

    There is a lot of interesting discussion about magnets in this blog. Personally, I have been confronted with some very weird experiments, that were in fact accidents, of high power coming from collapsing magnetic fields.
    I will not explain what I think that is happening in a collapsing magnetic field, but magnetism has to be considered as a competitor for the E-Cat as a source of usefull energy. Not in power density, but as a simple, not so powerfull source of mechanical energy or even electric energy.

    Therefore my question about the importance of the Gas-Cat in the competition of the new energy sources. It has other capabilities that magnetic systems don’t have.

    Gravity and magnetism may be linked in the sense that they are both fluxes of the same medium, so that a change in magnetic flux, causes a local change in gravity. Of the vice-versa I’m not sure. (I doubt it, but it could be at random, and not usefull for energy production, because it is to be considered as waste-heat)

    Quastion for Andrea Rossi:
    Do you consider, in the long term, magnetic or electro-magnetic devices as competitors for energy production ?

    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  719. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    I think that in the future, as well as in the present, all the energy sources will be systematically integrated. More than competition, I see specification.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  720. Giovanni Guerrini

    Mr Daniel,
    your answer is correct and the magnet will stops when the energy given to the system with the finger will be converted in heat.
    A magnetic “engine” runs with the initial energy of the system,but doesn’t give work.

    Regards G G

  721. Wladimir Guglinski

    Daniel De Caluwé wrote in May 13th, 2014 at 5:39 AM

    @Wladimir,

    And the final equilibrium position of the magnet will be found by solving this equation:

    Fm(x) = Fs(x) ~= k*x (in the case of a linear spring)

    So, because of the friction (in the bearings) and the energy losses (in the spring), the magnet will oscillate around and finally end up in this position ‘x’ (at a distance of ‘x’ from the vertical metallic wall).
    ——————————————–

    COMMENT:

    Daniel,
    this is what the Classical Physics tell us.
    However the aether does not exist in the Classical Physics, and therefore the complete equation considering the contribution of the aether does not exist in your equation.

    So, let us wait what the experiment will tell us till the end of June:

    ———————————————
    Mark wrote in May 13th, 2014 at 12:55 AM

    Wlad,

    I did the thought experiment, and the results of the test made, could be positive but also could be negative.
    I guess I have to wait till late June for something more solid.
    ———————————————-

    regards
    wlad

  722. Daniel De Caluwé

    Sorry, I have to do a small correction in my answer:

    In my previous answer I wrote:

    Fm(x) = Fs(x) ~= k*x (in the case of a linear spring)

    But this must be changed as follows:

    Fm(x) = Fs(x) ~= k*(dmax-x) (in the case of a linear spring)

  723. Wladimir Guglinski

    Mark wrote in May 13th, 2014 at 12:55 AM

    Wlad,

    I did the thought experiment, and the results of the test made, could be positive but also could be negative.
    I guess I have to wait till late June for something more solid.
    ————————————————–

    Mark,
    I suppose you used non-magnetic axis and non-magnetic bearing rotation, because if they be magnetic they will increase the friction

    regards
    wlad

  724. Daniel De Caluwé

    @Wladimir,

    You wrote: 1) Will the magnet continue its oscilatory motion without ever stop?

    My answer: No, it will not continue its motion, because it finally will stop in a equilibrium position where its magnetic force (towards the metallic wall) Fm, which is also variable (!) and function of the distance between the magnet and the metallic wall (the magnetic field reduces with the distance!) will be equal to the repulsive force of the spring.

    And the final equilibrium position of the magnet will be found by solving this equation:

    Fm(x) = Fs(x) ~= k*x (in the case of a linear spring)

    So, because of the friction (in the bearings) and the energy losses (in the spring), the magnet will oscillate around and finally end up in this position ‘x’ (at a distance of ‘x’ from the vertical metallic wall).

    Kind Regards,
    Daniel

  725. Mark

    Wlad,

    I did the thought experiment, and the results of the test made, could be positive but also could be negative.
    I guess I have to wait till late June for something more solid.

    Mark

  726. Wladimir Guglinski

    Thought Experiment Gedankenexperiment

    Instead of to use the magnet fixed in the vertical plate of the refrigerator, I propose here a Thought Experiment, as follows:

    1- in the plate we will fix two small bearing rotation

    2- in the inferior end of the magnet we bond an axis, whose ends are introduced in the two holes of the bearing rotation

    3- so, the magnet will be able to gyrate about the axis

    4- in the geometrical center of the magnet we fix a plastic spring (without magnetism), whose other end is fixed to the plate of the refrigerator, so that the spring takes the horizontal position.

    5- when the spring is totally compressed, the spring applies a force Fs a little stronger than the force Fm between the magnet and the plate.

    Then let us put the apparatus working, as follows:

    a) with a finger we apply a force on the magnet, compressing totally the spring

    b) when we take off the finger, the spring stretches, and with the help of the weight of the magnet the spring pushes the magnet, which starts to move far away the plate (the weight of the magnet applies a variable moment M= p.d in the magnet, where d is variable because gravity center of the magnet will be oscillating between two maximum positions).

    c) continuing moving, the magnet starts to stretch the spring, and now the force Fs of the spring is in the same direction of the force Fm, in order that the magnet finally stops, and changes the direction of its motion, going now toward the plate.

    d) when the spring starts to be compressed again, due to the inertia the magnet continues compressing the spring, until the time when the spring is totally compressed, and starts again to push again the magnet far away the plate.

    .

    CONCLUSONS:

    1) The magnet acquires an oscillatory motion about the axis.

    2) Heat is generated during the compression and expansion of the spring, and also due to friction between the axis and the bearing rotation

    .

    QUESTIONS:

    1) Will the magnet continue its oscilatory motion without ever stop?

    2) In the case the oscillatory motion never stop, where the heat energy wasted by friction is comming from ?

    regards
    wlad

  727. Wladimir Guglinski

    JR wrote in May 12th, 2014 at 7:47 AM

    Daniel,

    Wladimir appears to have a pattern: misunderstand the definition of some concept (magnetic moment or energy or basic workings of quantum mechanics), make some entirely unsupported claim based on this lack of understanding, then claim that it proves QRT or Aether or whatever else he’s interested in must be correct. When it’s pointed out that his ‘problem’ just doesn’t exist and/or is fully and easily explained in modern physics, he generally moves to personal insults, random links to largely unrelated things, or most commonly, yet another made up problem. He quite obviously has not interest in even trying to learn any basic information about the theories he is criticizing, despite constantly asking about what they predict. So personally, I’ve given up trying to explain conventional physics him, although his claims do occasionally lead to interesting discussions like this one.
    ======================================================

    COMMENT

    Dear Daniel

    Mr. JR has not only a poor understanding of fundamental questions in Physics. but he even has no knowledge on simple geometry.

    For instance, look at the structure of the nucleus 10Ne20 in the Figure 1 of the paper published by the journal Nature:

    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v487/n7407/full/nature11246.html

    Is that structure spherical ??? Has that structure a spherical distribution of protons and neutrons?????

    In December 14th, 2013 at 6:50 PM Mr. JR wrote about the Figure 1 of the Nature paper:
    ———————————————————
    The type of non-spherical structure you’re talking about has a specific and different meaning, but the nucleus is still spherically symmetric in the traditional sense. So ‘non-spherical’ means to different things when you say that conventional theory requires spherical symmetry and when you say that the clustering structure shown in the paper you cite yields non-spherical components.
    ———————————————————

    So, Mr. JR has not even notion about the diference between spherical and non-spherical.
    According to Mr. JR a spherical shape can be non-spherical… ha ha ha

    The journal Nature published the paper in 2012 because the experiments are showing that even-even nuclei Z=N have non-spherical distribution of protons and neutrons, as is seen in the Figure 1 for the nucleus 10Ne20, while along 80 years the Standard Nuclear Physics predicted wrongly that those nuclei have a spherical distribution of protons and neutrons.

    However, in spite of the experiments have shown that even-even nuclei with Z=N have non-spherical shape, Mr. JR continues claiming that they have spherical shape.

    And so,
    according to Mr. JR, the authors of the paper published by the journal Nature are idiots, as also is idiot the editor of the journal.

    It’s a waste of time to discuss with Mr. JR, because he uses to suppose that his opposers are idiots.

    regards
    wlad

  728. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Thank you!
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  729. Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi,

    Previously, I mentioned development of the Helium Ion Microscope by Zeiss (‘ORION’ TM).

    A new type of Focused Ion Beam Microscope (or ‘FIB’) is under development at the National Institute of Science and Technology (NIST) and related contractors. It is the Lithium Ion Microscope.

    The use of heavier ions (vs. Helium) suggests it will produce shorter wavelengths and, therefore, will have better resolution for imaging and fabrication.

    Perhaps, you may be able to use a Lithium Ion Microscope.

    (Even so, it will be many years before anyone invents a Nickel Ion Microscope.)

    http://www.nist.gov/cnst/fib-050614.cfm
    http://www.techfragments.com/2611/low-energy-focused-ion-beam-microscope-first/

    Macroscopic regards,

    Joseph Fine

  730. Dear Dr. Rossi,

    Since independent test results show the E-Cat running continuously for many hours, and the HotCat achieving temperatures over 1000 degrees C, plus the Siemens Ultra-Efficient steam turbine being able to run at less than 400 degrees C, where is the stumbling block that prevents the generation of electric power at this time using your invention? What type of R&D breakthrough do you need at time?

    Best of luck with your R&D.

    Best Regards,

    Daniel G. Zavela

  731. Andrea Rossi

    Daniel G. Zavela:
    Things are not that simple, but we are working on that. I cannot give specific information until we are ready with the electric power generation on the market. Let me also remind you that the results of the test made could be positive, but also negative.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  732. JR

    Daniel,

    In general, the situation is the same whether it’s gravity, electrostatic attraction, or magnetic attraction. No energy is expended in any of these cases if the force is simply cancelling another force (e.g. table pushing back against weight of object or surface of two magnets pushing back against each other to balance out the magnetic attraction.

    For the case of a large permanent magnet (as opposed to magnetic moments between individual particles), there are other things going on. Permanent magnets lose strength over time, especially under conditions of high heat, sudden impact, etc…, as the spin alignment that causes the magnetic field is somewhat fragile. Also, this example is a little more confusing as it’s the magnet and iron pushing against each other that is balancing the magnetic field, and a third force due to friction that keeps the magnet from falling.

    So as I say, it’s still one of Wladimir’s inventions (Aether) being used to explain the problem caused by another of his inventions (his claim that there is need for constant input of energy to keep forces from weakening with time), but there is no evidence of either of these being true. He pointed to some press releases, but while they all claim one or another method of producing energy in violation of known physics, they (1) don’t support Wladimir’s assertion that energy is constantly being lost through interactions and (2) are all things like press releases which are not considered meaninful primary sources of information.

    Wladimir appears to have a pattern: misunderstand the definition of some concept (magnetic moment or energy or basic workings of quantum mechanics), make some entirely unsupported claim based on this lack of understanding, then claim that it proves QRT or Aether or whatever else he’s interested in must be correct. When it’s pointed out that his ‘problem’ just doesn’t exist and/or is fully and easily explained in modern physics, he generally moves to personal insults, random links to largely unrelated things, or most commonly, yet another made up problem. He quite obviously has not interest in even trying to learn any basic information about the theories he is criticizing, despite constantly asking about what they predict. So personally, I’ve given up trying to explain conventional physics him, although his claims do occasionally lead to interesting discussions like this one.

  733. Mark

    Wlad and Daniel,
    I agree the magnet on a vertical iron plate, is an interesting example xample. I m an experimentalist however, and I want to show that the Energy needed to produce a permanent magnet is far less than the required energy to sustain the magnet ‘s mass on the iron plate vertically over a week . Wlad – would you have some preliminary calculations?
    Mark

  734. Wladimir Guglinski

    JR wrote in May 11th, 2014 at 12:28 PM

    Daniel,

    Maybe I missed some detail, but this seems to cover what he’s been saying.
    ——————————————-

    COMMENT

    Perhaps some of the details you missed, dear Mr. JR, are those ones:

    BlackLight Power, Inc. Announces Sustained Production of Electricity
    http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3535&mode=&order=0&thold=0

    Magna Coaster – solid state magnetic generator
    http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3514

    Steorn ORBO Overunity Technology – FREE ENERGY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO1bOfIEqoI

    Article: How magnet motors work
    http://peswiki.com/index.php/Article:_How_magnet_motors_work

    I myself have replicated the Figueiredo Motor.
    His motor does not use any sort of energy input. And the rotor of the motor gyrates, without any supply of energy.

    regards
    wlad

  735. Daniel

    @JR,

    Yes, I agree, in the case of my example, where a laptop is in rest on the table, the weight of the laptop deformes a little bit the molecular structure of the plate of the table, like a spring, untill the reaction force becomes equal to the action force (the weight of the laptop on the table). So yes, putting a laptop on the table causes a little deformation of the molecular structure of the plate, so that it bounces back like a spring, untill reaction force equals action force. So yes, I agree, in this case no energy (of the Aether) is involved. But what about a magnet? Does it loose its strength when it glues itself (by its magnetism) to a vertical metal wall? (The weight of the magnet tries to pull it down, but the magnetism of the magnet holds it in place, glued (by its magnetism) to the vertical metal wall). But in this case, could the magnet finally (after many years) loose its (magnetic) strength?

  736. JR

    Daniel,

    Actually, nothing about quantum mechanics or any aspect of conventional physics suggests that a table pushing back against gravity to keep something from falling requires any external energy. Nor does the earth orbiting the sun require energy to keep gravity from weakening, nor does an electron orbiting a proton require new energy to keep from having the attraction weaken with time, etc….

    Wladimir simply made up the assertion that these things require energy (even though he started out by pointing out that no energy is expended). He then proposed that Aether exists and constantly supplies energy to everything to make up for the energy loss that he claims happens. He needs to do this, since no one has ever observed the loss of energy he claims exists, so the Aether has to put in exactly the amount of energy being lost to the mystery source of energy loss. At that point, his two inventions cancel each other out completely (at least in this regard), leaving absolutely no detectable sign that either one of them actually exists and restoring the exact same picture we have in traditional physics/quantum mechanics.

    Seems like a pointless exercise to me. But having imagined that energy is constantly disappearing (into nothing, apparently) and being replaced with new energy from the Aether, one wonders where the Aether gets it’s supply of limitless energy. But I guess if you’re not conserving energy in the first place, one can give just about any answer and it’s as good as anything else.

    Maybe I missed some detail, but this seems to cover what he’s been saying. Maybe his new paper will answer some of these questions (although again, I don’t really see the point of trying to do so, since I don’t see the slightest indication that any of this has any sort of basis in fact or reality).

  737. Daniel

    In fact, the discussion between Wlad and Mark is an interesting one, because, according to classical mechanics, when, for instance, your laptop is resting on the table, no work is done, and no energy is exchanged (as long as you don’t move the laptop, there is no displacement, and thus no work according to classical mechanics). But according to QM or QRT, even when you don’t move the laptop, energy is exchanged (by the aether), to maintain the reaction force that holds the laptop so that is doesn’t dissapear through the table, isn’t it? ;-) (As engineers, we’re not used thinking like that, but I do agree that, at quantum level, something must happen, otherwise the table could not maintain it’s reaction force while compensating for the (weight) of the laptop that pressures on the structure of the table…)

  738. Wladimir Guglinski

    Mark wrote in May 9th, 2014 at 9:44 AM

    Wlad,

    So you are suggesting, if you have two hydrogen atoms in a form of a hydrogen molecule by covalent bonding, they will need the heat from the surround environment to sustain the bond.
    ———————————–

    No,
    I am suggesting that if you have two hydrogen atoms in a form of hydrogen molecule, and you stop to supply energy to it, it will arrive to the zero grau Kelvin, and the molecule will collapse.

    However, as there is no zero grau Kelvin in the universe, it means that the aether will supply energy to the molecule, and that’s why it does not collapse.

    regards
    wlad

  739. Mark

    Wlad,

    So you are suggesting, if you have two hydrogen atoms in a form of a hydrogen molecule by covalent bonding, they will need the heat from the surround environment to sustain the bond. And if you isolate the hydrogen molecule from the surround heat (or the magnet and the iron plate in your point 2 above), eventually they will lose the bonding by running out of internal energy? Does it mean if you super cool a hydrogen molecule, you should get 2 mono atomic hydrogen atoms? Has this been observed in the lab? its experimentally feasible to verify your theory.

    Mark

  740. Wladimir Guglinski

    Mark wrote in May 8th, 2014 at 3:43 PM

    Wlad

    The bonding between molecules or atoms, do they also require energy?
    ————————————–

    Mark,
    molecules of atoms get heat from the enviroment, so that to continue working.

    The question regarding to the magnet is the following:

    1- in the case we put the magnet and the refrigerator within a vessel which do not receive heat from the enviroment, the magnet will not have heat energy supply.

    2- as there is need energy so that to avoid the magnet to fall down, such energy must be supplied by the internal energy of the magnet (the energy of its magnetic field).

    3- Suppose you put an horizontal wood bar touching the center of the magnet and the other end the wood bar is fixed to a vertical wall in front to the refrigerator. So, the wood bar avoids the magnet to gyrate under the action of the moment M (explained for Mr. JR), and so there is no need to use the horizontal magnetic force of the magnet so that to avoid it to gyrate. However, the wood bar is compressed, and it needs the bond of molecules of the wood so that to avoid the magnet to gyrate. But as the wood does not receive heat from the enviroment, it will use the internal energy of the molecules so that to avoid the magnet to gyrate. So, the wood bar will be wasting energy, and after a long time it will not have energy for the bond of its molecules.

    regards
    wlad

  741. Wladimir Guglinski

    Steven N. Karels wrote in May 8th, 2014 at 2:18 PM

    Since gravity and magnetism have existed for a long time, should not the mass of the universe be therefore decreasing or have gone to zero?
    ———————————

    The mass of stars is decreasing by changing to energy according to E= mc²

    regards

  742. Wladimir Guglinski

    JR wrote in May 8th, 2014 at 7:35 AM

    Rather than having a frame which is intrinsically unstable, couldn’t that frame be in the form of a table? Are you claiming that a table requires a gasoline motor to avoid collapsing after holding things up for an extended period??
    ——————————————————

    Dear JR
    your argument is unacceptable.

    In the case of the table, the vector force of gravity passing by the center of gravity of the magnet and the vector reaction of the table are in the same line, and therefore they cancell one each other.

    In the case of the magnet fixed in the iron plate of the refrigerator, the vector friction force is situated in the vertical iron plate, while the vector force of gravity passes by the center of gravity of the magnet.

    Thefore, there is a moment M = mg.d , where “m” is the mass of the magnet, g = 9,8m/s² , and
    “d” is the distance between the center of gravity of the magnet and the surface of the iron plate.

    As you may realize, there is a moment M trying to gyrate the magnet.
    The force which avoids the magnet to gyrate is the horizontal magnetic force applied by the magnet.

    regards
    wlad

  743. DTravchenko

    Mr Rossi:
    I found very interesting the interview to the scientific journalist Mats Lewan about his book ” An Impossible Invention” on your E-Cat:
    http://www.infinite-energy.com/resources/matslewan.html
    I also read the book and it contains many particulars : how do you feel about all the information this book gives to a skilled reader?

  744. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    Mats Lewan is a scientific journalist: he made his job.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  745. Mark

    Wlad

    The bonding between molecules or atoms, do they also require energy?
    Mark

  746. Steven N. Karels

    Wladimir,

    I asked “Cannot the same argument you poser to JR also be applied to gravity. Does gravity, in its existence, consume energy or mass?”

    And you responded “yes”

    Since gravity and magnetism have existed for a long time, should not the mass of the universe be therefore decreasing or have gone to zero?

  747. Sverre Haslund

    JR wrote: Rather than having a frame which is intrinsically unstable, couldn’t that frame be in the form of a table? Are you claiming that a table requires a gasoline motor to avoid collapsing after holding things up for an extended period??

    This is exactly my point. No energy would be used by the table, or any rigid construction holding the magnet up. The human body is a different thing as we have flexible joints in our shoulders and we need to spend energy countering the pull of gravity on our arm.

    Regards

    Sverre Haslund

  748. Joe

    Wladimir,

    The Meta Model by Dr Van Flandern was used by him (and continues to be used by his followers) to explain astrophysical phenomena (examples: perihelion advance; stability of planetary systems), so the finer points of quantum phenomena (example: magnetic moments) were not considered.

    As I have stated in a previous post, applying laws of the macro world to the micro world does not seem to work well at explaining mu = 0 for 2He4, 4Be8, 6C12, etc. I doubt that it is a question of field type (mono-, di-, etc) though since altering NUMBERS (of fields, in this case) usually does not solve problems but rather re-constructs problems in a different way. What is needed is a new factor.

    All the best,
    Joe

  749. JR

    Wladimir wrote: “but there is need energy supply so that to hold the rigid frame in the horizontal position.

    Then let us put a small gasoline motor supplying energy to some apparatus which stays holding the ridig frame in the horizontal position. The aparatus can be, for instance, a system formed by pulleys and a small clutch.

    And when the gasoline finishes, the apparatus will stop to hold the magnet, and it will fall down.”

    Rather than having a frame which is intrinsically unstable, couldn’t that frame be in the form of a table? Are you claiming that a table requires a gasoline motor to avoid collapsing after holding things up for an extended period??

  750. Andrea Rossi

    Craig Cassarino:
    Thank you for sending this interesting link:
    http://www.infinite-energy.com/resources/matslewan.html
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  751. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle, Tom Conover:
    The process of R&D never ends in a high technology concern. Always must be kept a distinction between the production of today and the future production which will be born by the R&D process. An industry that does not compete with itself to build its future is doomed to decade.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  752. Joe

    Koen,

    You must keep in mind that it is humans that devise laws. Laws do not exist in Nature. If they did, we would find them ready-made and complete. There would be no need for hypotheses or the concept of progress. So the answer to your question (“But if we reject one thing that is true, how can we find then the whole truth?”) is that scientific truth is temporary. It is never final, never “whole”. There is no need to worry about having missed or overlooked a phenomenon of Nature that would have rendered a particular model as complete. It is we humans that decide that a model is worthy of a certain consideration at a point in time since it is we humans that devise models. How could it be otherwise?

    All the best,
    Joe

  753. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in May 6th, 2014 at 8:27 PM

    Koen,

    If you are interested in a dualistic model of Nature, you should examine the Meta Model by the late Dr Thomas Van Flandern. It consists of two components: a light-speed, light-carrying particle (“elyson”), and a faster-than-light graviton. Electromagnetism and gravity are explained using these. Here are two papers:
    ————————————-

    Joe,
    is it possible to explain from Van Flandern theory the reason why even-even nuclei with Z=N have zero magnetic moment ?

    Do you think is it possible to explain it by considering any mono-field model for the elementary particles ? (like the mono-field model used in the Quantum Electrodynamics- QED).

    regards
    wlad

  754. Wladimir Guglinski

    Koen Vandewalle wrote in May 7th, 2014 at 2:33 PM

    Joe, Wlad,
    Thank you. Lots to read. Again.
    Is there an agreement that gravity is a flux of something ?
    But if we have no technology, and we will never have technology that will be capable of measuring it, even not indirectly, then does the scientific community have to reject or accept it ? But if we reject one thing that is true, how can we find then the whole truth ?
    It is as searching for one needle that is outside of the haystack.
    Kind Regards,
    ————————————

    Dear Koen

    10 years ago I could never suppose that it would be possible to make experiments detecting the shape of even-even nuclei with Z= N (which detected that they have non-spherical shape, as predicted in my Quantum Ring Theory).

    We dont know what can be the advancement of the techonolgy along the years

    regards
    wlad

  755. Wladimir Guglinski

    Steven N. Karels wrote in May 7th, 2014 at 4:54 AM

    Wladimir,

    Cannot the same argument you poser to JR also be applied to gravity. Does gravity, in its existence, consume energy or mass?
    ——————————————-

    yes, Steven,
    I discuss this regarding the magnetism and gravity in my new paper Aether structure for unification of gravity and electromagnetism

    regards
    wlad

  756. Wladimir Guglinski

    Sverre Haslund wrote in May 7th, 2014 at 3:07 PM

    Wladimir Guglinski,

    It’s easier to understand this if we think of the magnet being supported by a rigid frame instead of by a persons arm. Why then does the arm grow tired if you are not doing any work? This is all to do with biology and the complex way our muscles work: chemical energy has to be burned to keep them stiff and able to exert pressure. But magnets are not like that: they exert a force pushing each other apart and do not consume any power as long as they don’t move
    ——————————————–

    COMMENT

    Ok, dear Sverre,
    but there is need energy supply so that to hold the rigid frame in the horizontal position.

    Then let us put a small gasoline motor supplying energy to some apparatus which stays holding the ridig frame in the horizontal position.
    The aparatus can be, for instance, a system formed by pulleys and a small clutch.

    And when the gasoline finishes, the apparatus will stop to hold the magnet, and it will fall down.

    regards
    wlad

  757. Koen Vandewalle

    Andrea,
    Do you think that you compete with technologies that “don’t exist” ?
    If the answer is positive, then is it that why the gas-cat is important ?
    All the information becomes more and more confusing to me. It takes too long.
    Kind Regards,
    Koen.

  758. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    Sorry, but I do not understand your question.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  759. Sverre Haslund

    Wladimir Guglinski,

    It’s easier to understand this if we think of the magnet being supported by a rigid frame instead of by a persons arm. Why then does the arm grow tired if you are not doing any work? This is all to do with biology and the complex way our muscles work: chemical energy has to be burned to keep them stiff and able to exert pressure. But magnets are not like that: they exert a force pushing each other apart and do not consume any power as long as they don’t move.

    Regards,

    Sverre Haslund

  760. Koen Vandewalle

    Joe, Wlad,
    Thank you. Lots to read. Again.
    Is there an agreement that gravity is a flux of something ?
    But if we have no technology, and we will never have technology that will be capable of measuring it, even not indirectly, then does the scientific community have to reject or accept it ? But if we reject one thing that is true, how can we find then the whole truth ?
    It is as searching for one needle that is outside of the haystack.
    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  761. Steven N. Karels

    Wladimir,

    Cannot the same argument you poser to JR also be applied to gravity. Does gravity, in its existence, consume energy or mass?

  762. Joe

    Koen,

    If you are interested in a dualistic model of Nature, you should examine the Meta Model by the late Dr Thomas Van Flandern. It consists of two components: a light-speed, light-carrying particle (“elyson”), and a faster-than-light graviton. Electromagnetism and gravity are explained using these. Here are two papers:

    http://www.metaresearch.org/cosmology/Quantum_Physics/StructureOfMatter.asp

    http://www.metaresearch.org/cosmology/gravity/meta_cycle.asp

    All the best,
    Joe

  763. Wladimir Guglinski

    A question to Mr. JR

    Consider a magnet fixed in the vertical iron surface of the door of a refrigerator. Due to its magnetism, the magnet does not fall down under the attraction of the gravity. Then let’s analyse the question.

    The magnetic force of attraction between the magnet and the iron surface yields a vertical friction force, which avoids the magnet to fall down under the force of gravity. According to current Physics, there is no work produced in the equilibrium of the magnet, because the definition of work L is L= F.d, where F is the friction force applied on the magnet, and d is the displacement. As the magnet do not move, then d=0, and so L= 0, meaning that there is not any work produced.

    However, consider that you put the magnet over your hand in the horizontal position, one meter above the floor. You need energy so that to keep your arm in the horizontal position, holding the magnet in your hand. This energy is supplied by the food you eat. But suppose you stop eating , and you stay holding the magnet in your hand along days and days. Of course the energy supplied by the food will finish, and you will not have the necessary energy to continue holding the magnet, and it will fall down.

    As we realize, in spite of your arm do not make any work (because your arm is not applying any displacement on the magnet), however there is need energy so that to keep the magnet one meter above the floor.

    Now let us consider the magnet tied to the iron surface of the refrigerator. Obviously there is energy for keeping the magnet in that position. And suppose that such energy is supplied by the magnetism of the magnet. Well, in this case the magnetism of the magnet would have to decrease, since it is supplying energy so that to avoid the magnet to fall down. And then, after some, weeks, or months, or years, the magnetism would become weak, and the magnet would have to fall down. However this does not occur.

    Therefore the magnet needs to get energy, in order to replace the energy spent for holding it tied to the iron surface of the refrigerator. And then a question arises: where the energy supply for the magnet comes from ?
    ————————————————

    Dear Mr. JR,
    please explain us where the energy supply for the magnet comes from, by considering the current theories of Physics.

    regards
    wlad

  764. Wladimir Guglinski

    Koen Vandewalle wrote in May 6th, 2014 at 1:10 PM

    Dear Wladimir Guglinski,

    Being a simple engineer, I do not allways understand your theories – although I try to. Therefore these engineer-ish questions.
    —————————————

    Dear Koen
    the paper has many figures showing how the particles and antiparticles of the aether work within the proton, the electron, and the nuclei.

    I think you will understand it very well

    regards
    wlad

  765. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in May 6th, 2014 at 8:32 AM

    Wladimir,

    You must be able to answer the following question in your new paper:
    is it the polarity of the strong graviton g that decides the polarity of the magnetic field in its vicinity, or is it the orientation of the magnetic dipole moment of a nucleon that decides what the magnetic field in its vicinity will look like?
    —————————————-

    Dear Joe,

    as you will see, in the new paper the force that keeps a nucleon in equilibrium with the centripetal force is not magnetic.
    Now I realized that there is equilibrium between centripetal force and a force which nature is gravitational.
    In this new model there is not magnetism within the principal field Sp.

    It is NOT the charge of the deuteron which produces the force Fm which I supposed to be of magnetic nature.
    Actually the force is Fg (force of gravity).

    Then you could reply that the neutron would also have to be submitted to the gravity force Fg. However I discovered why the neutron is not submitted to that force within the principal field Sp.

    The fact that deuteron has charge, and the neutron has no charge, made me to suppose wrongly that the equilibrium would have to be promoted by a force caused by the charge of the deuteron.
    So, sometimes something which seems to us to be very obvious deviates us from the correct way.

    This new solution eliminates the incoherences of the old model proposed in the paper Stability of Light Nuclei, published here in the JoNP.

    regards
    wlad

  766. Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Wladimir Guglinski,

    Aether Structure for Unification between Gravity and Electromagnetism.

    That will be very interesting. Can you give a glimpse ? Aether, is that: marbles (dust), liquid, gas(compressible) ? Does there exist an aether-vacuum ?
    How many different components do you need in your unification model ? (My hope is two components :”heaven” and “earth”; Non-aether and Aether)

    Being a simple engineer, I do not allways understand your theories – although I try to. Therefore these engineer-ish questions.

    I hope your theory enables a rebuild of some parts of science so that it fits all, and there is no longer need for contradiction and opinion concerning the matter.

    Thank You,
    Koen

  767. Joe

    Wladimir,

    You must be able to answer the following question in your new paper:
    is it the polarity of the strong graviton g that decides the polarity of the magnetic field in its vicinity, or is it the orientation of the magnetic dipole moment of a nucleon that decides what the magnetic field in its vicinity will look like?

    All the best,
    Joe

  768. Wladimir Guglinski

    Dear Joe,

    I think I finally succeeded to find a structure of aether and a model of field for elementary particles with perfect coherence.

    I am writing a paper entitled Aether Structure for Unification between Gravity and Electromagnetism.
    As soon as it be ready I will submit it for publication in the JoNP

    After its publication I would like to know your opinion

    regards
    wlad

  769. Enrico Billi

    Dear Andrea,
    in this website i saw people mention your hot-cat as possible reactor of a future USS Enterprise.
    http://www.buildtheenterprise.org/nuclear-reactors

    Best Regards, lavoLaLe lavoLaLe
    Enrico Billi

  770. Andrea Rossi

    Enrico Billi:
    Very interesting, you are always bearer of good stuff: your Physics Degree from the University of Bologna is working.
    Lavolale, lavolale!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    p.s.- for the Readers: Enrico Billi is a Physicist friend of mine and works in China, very hard; in Italy Chinese People pronouces “L” the “R”, so the Italian “lavorare” ( = to work) pronounced by a Chinese becomes ” Lavolale”: for this reason we joke saying always “lavolale, levolale” , to mean don’t lose your time, just work.

  771. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Since the E-Cat is produce heat which can be used to make electricity, and you use heat to initiate and control the E-Cat reaction, are you able to use the energy produced by one E-Cat (either heat or electricity) to control the reaction in a separate unit?

    It would seem to be a logical arrangement — are there problems with this approach?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  772. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    This is a possible line of evolution of the Hot Cat technology, but remind that the results of the tests could still be positive or negative.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  773. Giovanni Guerrini

    Dear Dott Rossi,
    I think that certainly is right the second,like bacteria and antibiotics.

    Regards G G

  774. Andrea Rossi

    Giovanni Guerrini:
    By the way: the study has been published on ” Functional Ecology”, the author is Ismael Galvan of the Spanish National Research Center ( CSIC).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  775. Giovanni Guerrini

    ….Obviously I don’t think that universe will evolve like in the Asimov’s tale,I take it like a methaphor….
    I am fool,maybe,but not so fool!

    Regards G G

  776. Andrea Rossi

    Giovanni Guerrini:
    I suspect so too.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  777. FC

    Dear Mr. Rossi,
    I think in the current era you may be able to obtain anything you want with enough time and the impressive invention you have created.
    So I’m just curious, would you like to tell Why did you want to build it at start ? and What would you like to get from the product of your efforts ?
    Don’t give up !!
    Best Regards

  778. Andrea Rossi

    F.C.:
    I spammed your comment because contains unacceptable insults against a competitor of us. Nevertheless, the second part of your comment was interesting, regarding the publication concerning the fact that birds exposed to radiation doses in Chernobil became more resistant to radiations. That is interesting, but raises in me a question: the analysis did not make a clear distinction between selection of the more fit and evolution of the same cells. I mean: the measured statistics, that say now the birds are more resistant to radiations in the Chernobil area, could derive not from an evolution of the same birds, that matured a higher resistance to radiations, but could derive from the fact that the less resistant birds are dead and therefore did not reproduce themselves. This distinction has not been studied, therefore the study is not significant, so far.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  779. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Thank you for addressing my questions, as you are permitted.

    The scenario I had in mind was a “what if” one. Suppose eCat technology showed that it could produse excess power but the effective COP was limited to three. This would cause problems in self-powering using electrical power generation — all the produced electricity would be consumed in heating and controlling the eCat.

    One of the problems with thermal solar plants is the molten salt temperature they can produce. This limits their electricity generation under the Carnot cycle. If there was a way to have an eCat be heated by the molten salt from the thermal solar plant, then increasing the temperature in another molten salt storage area, the Carnot efficiency could be dramatically increased. If these things were possible, then efficient electrical energy production from thermal solar plants would be improved.

    Storage of molten salts in not a problem environmentally and is not physically large. So the storage of enough molten salts to handle night time operation or even low sunlight for several days is possible with a large enough molten salt storage capacity. This would be ideal for baseload (continuous constant output for months) electric power generation, totally replacing carbon based plants and would make solar a 24-hour per day generation a possibility.

  780. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Thank you for your attention. Obviously I cannot give direct or indirect information about what happens in the reactor, even in a simulated scenario.
    You can make your suppositions, which are welcome, we cannot give information upon the simulations derived from such suppositions, for obvious reasons.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  781. gillana

    Hi A. Rossi
    I would like to know if it is possible for you to establish a date beyond which certainly tests will be published peer reviewed.
    Many tanks all the same.

  782. Andrea Rossi

    Gillana:
    No, I am not able to estabilish anything regarding the publication date of the Third Independent Party, because it does not depend on me.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  783. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    As I understand your Cat and Mouse control implementation,

    1. you have a multi-variate input control, I assume a minimum of two control parameters, the first identified as temperature and another parameter identified as “vibrations”. Is this essentially correct?
    2. Are there additional control parameters?
    3. In the current implementation you apply or do not apply electrical energy to produce thermal energy to heat the eCat to some temperature range while applying or not applying “vibrations”. Is this correct?
    4. In the natural gas versions of eCat control, I would assume you apply or not apply burning natural gas (and air), replacing the electrical heating with energy derived from burning gas. Is this essentially correct?
    5. Natural gas and air burns with a flame temperature bewteen +900C and +1,500C. So I assume you would use some control mechanism (flame on or off or some heat transfer mechanism) to keep the eCat within a desired temperature range when it is operating? Please confirm.
    6. The use of a thermal solar plant can typically heat molten salt to around the +500C to +600C range. Is this temperature range adequate for eCat operation?
    7. Can a thermal source at 500C to 600C be used to activate an eCat and have the eCat produce higher temperatures? You answered “maybe” – can you clarify how this would occur? It would seem to violate the laws of thermodynamics, but I could be wrong.

  784. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    1- confidential
    2- yes, but I cannot specify
    3- confidential
    4- yes
    5- confidential
    6- possibly
    7- I cannot explain what happens inside the reactor
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  785. John L

    Hi Andrea,

    Do you think, these peripheral heat exchanger and already well known molten salt fluid system technologies will be better off to R&D and manufacture in places like China or India? When systems are fully installed and ready, you need integration, integrating the Hot cats in right places. Lets others manage the well known interfacing peripheral systems may save you a lot time and moneys.

    John L

  786. Andrea Rossi

    John L:
    Makes sense.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  787. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    You have previously stated that the burning of natural gas can be the thermal input source for eCat technology (please confirm).

    What I have in mind —

    1. do you think a large solar thermal plant could provide that thermal input to an eCat?

    2. The thermal power eCat could heat a molten salt to a higher temperature than normally provided by a solar thermal system.

    3. The higher thermal temperature of the stored molten salt could result in an improved Carnot efficiency and resulting conversion to electricity.

    4. The stored higher temperature molten salt could produce electricity continuously, even during times of darkness.

    Without releasing any proprietary information on the eCat operation, does this approach seem possible?

  788. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    I confirm that we are working on the use of gas.
    About the other questions:
    1- why not?
    2- maybe
    3- the increase of efficiency depends on the integral of efficiency in function of temperature for the molten salt in question, at the due pressure. Rules are the same as for any other heat source.
    4- why not? Again, after the E-Cat system, the heated fluid behaves like in any other heating system.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  789. jhs

    Dear Mr. Rossi,
    Have you noticed that the Widom Larsen – the Partners of the Snake in Lattice LLC- theory has been attacked in this arXiv paper by L. Maiani and others ?
    “Neutron Production Rates by Inverse-Beta Decay in Fully Ionized Plasmas”
    http://arxiv.org/abs/1401.5288
    Here is the abstract:
    “Recently we showed that the nuclear transmutation rates are largely overestimated in the Widom-Larsen theory of the so called `Low Energy Nuclear Reactions’. Here we show that unbound plasma electrons are even less likely to initiate nuclear transmutations.”
    This paper cite also a previous paper by the same group:
    http://arxiv.org/abs/1209.6501
    “Low Energy Neutron Production by Inverse-beta decay in Metallic Hydride Surfaces”
    with abstract:
    “It has been recently argued that inverse-beta nuclear transmutations might occur at an impressively high rate in a thin layer at the metallic hydride surface under specific conditions. In this note we present a calculation of the transmutation rate which shows that there is little room for such a remarkable effect.”

    Did this influence your theory ?

  790. Andrea Rossi

    jhs:
    I do not know ( and I am not interested to) whom Widom and Larsen are Partners of. All I know of their theory is that it is wrong for the basic reason that it does not respect the leptons conservation law. Before talking of “my” theory let us wait for the results of the experiment made by the Third Independent Party on the E-Cat. The professors are working upon millions of data and the results, if positive ( hoping they will be positive) will give base, I suppose, to theoretical considerations. I am a Galilean guy, in the sense that I think it is useless to theorize ( I have read enough trivialities in the patent applications around) without solid experimental results. Theory must be a derivative of experimental activity in my vision. Obviously I am far from being convinced to be right, but this is my way to do things: first I want results, eventually I search the theories behind the results. As a consequence of this, the influence of the interesting articles you gave the links of are totally uninfluent respect my work, which is based upon totally different principles. Sincerely, I confess you that I think probably I am not the person that will find the more convincing theoretical explication of the so far supposed Rossi Effect. This does not mean that I do not have theoretical ideas.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  791. Hank Mills

    Hello Andrea,

    You stated, “I forgot to say: before the publication of the report of the Third Independent Party, anyway, it is opportune to talk of “presumed” Rossi Effect.”

    By “opportune” do you mean that you are now permitted to discuss the theory, or partial theory, that will be included in the report?

    If so, here are a few of my thoughts.

    1 – You have already stated in the past that you no longer think transmutation of nickel into copper is the primary source of energy production. If this is the case, then additional reactions must be taking place between light hydrogen and other light hydrogen atoms (H-H), light hydrogen atoms and the small number of deuterium atoms found in common hydrogen (H-D), deuterium atoms and other deuterium atoms (D-D), or hydrogen (light or heavy) and other elements in the reactor. Most likely, as you have explained, many such reactions are taking place. I suppose the most interesting information will be the identity of the reaction or reactions producing the most power.

    2 – If a metal hydride is utilized, it will be very interesting to learn how it may serve both a role as a provider of hydrogen, replacing the hydrogen tank, a catalyst to produce atomic hydrogen, and an additional set of reactants for nuclear reactions.

    3 – I hope the theory explains precisely how heat is both used to stimulate and reduce the rate of nuclear reactions. Maybe if this info is released, some of your readers and supporters could provide you with ideas on how to keep the reaction at a constant temperature and stable without an occasional “drive.”

    4 – It will be facinating if the theory provides a possible explanation for how the E-Cat might be producing a direct current.

    5 – Those individuals preoccupied with safety may be interested in how the E-Cat produces vast amounts of heat with very low levels of radiation.

    These are a few thoughts of mine. If now is a good time to discuss the theory, my eyes will stay glued to this Journal!

  792. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    I did not mean that I can talk of theory. I cannot talk about what happens inside the reactor.

    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  793. Dear Andrea,
    Before discussion went to Darwin, you invoked the topic of astrophysics. One question is whether or not Rossi effect type LENR process might exist naturally somewhere in the universe. The process needs, at minimum, solid metal and pressurised gaseous hydrogen in contact with each other. Such combination is probably rather rare in the universe because hydrogen escapes from small, rocky planets, while planets that are massive enough to hold hydrogen easily grab a large mass of it from the protoplanetary disk in a runaway process because hydrogen is the most common element in the universe, resulting in a gas or ice giant planet. A giant planet has no solid surface except possibly deep down in very high temperature and process, hence no possibility for at least this type of LENR.

    The situation (common elements but rare combination) is a bit reminiscent about the situation of life on earth. Life needs three things: nutrients, energy source and liquid water. Although all are plentiful on Earth, the triple combination is not very common. For example ocean surface waters have water and sun but no nutrients; bottom waters have nutrients and water but no energy source; deserts have nutrients and energy but no water. Only coastal areas, lakes and rivers have all three, roughly speaking. (Of course, your invention can change the pattern for example by providing low-cost heat to greenhouses, but that’s another topic..)
    regards, /pekka

  794. Andrea Rossi

    Pekka Janhunen:
    I forgot to say: before the publication of the report of the Third Independent Party, anyway, it is opportune to talk of “presumed” Rossi Effect. The results, before the publication, cannot be known and they could be positive, as I hope, but also negative.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  795. Dear Andrea and others,
    Concerning homo sapiens and friends. The genetic difference between us and apes is small: the difference is smaller than the difference between a cat and a dog, for example. We are the “cultural ape”: we are smart enough as a society to systematically improve our own intelligence by putting kids to school, for example, and we are smart enough to spread (by written language) the fruits of intelligence of the best guys for the benefit of society. In some sense, the “artificial intelligence revolution” started already 10000 years ago, i.e. transition from slow genetic evolution to faster cultural one.

    I don’t think that “intelligence” is a uniquely rare product of evolution because it was invented by nature about four times. Among mollusks, an octopus is anomalously intelligent. Among birds, crows and parrots are the smart ones. Among whales, dolphins excel, and among primates homo sapiens does. I think that intelligent life is not that much more uncommon (perhaps only factor 10-100) in the universe than microbial life. But life in general might or might not be very rare: this we don’t know. The route from bacterium to man is biologically rather well known and does not look improbable in retrospect in my opinion, but the route from molecule to bacterium remains a complete mystery.

    Although I’m a space physicist, as a “hobby” I participated into some research of astrobiology and origin of life. More specifically, in 2007 we looked into mechanisms how multicellular life emerged (http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0000214). The birth of multicellular life looked at first to me like an unexplained miracle, but it’s possible to make some sense of it. Of course our proposed mechanism is not necessarily the right one, but it’s better to have at least one logically sounding explanation rather than none.
    regards, /pekka

  796. Andrea Rossi

    Pekka Janhunen:
    About the probabilities that in nature can be reproduced the so called “Rossi Effect” : as you know, under a probabilistic point of view, nothing is impossible, but everything has a proper probability factor. Whatever you can think about, theoretically, is possible, within a certain field of probability. In our case, the probability that spontaneously the conditions necessary to get the Rossi Effect can happen in and/or on the Earth are very, very low, distant from the impossibility by an evanescent measure. About what can happen in the Universe, we barely know what happens in and on the Earth, let alone the Universe.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  797. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    With all the speculation going on about IH I must ask you this question. Are you learning the Chinese language, preferably Mandarin?
    I sense that you are much happier these days. Does the fact that the investigating professors made you sign a NDA mean that they are feeding you some information? Otherwise why would they want one.
    It feels like to me that something is immanent perhaps within this month of May.
    As the American cowboy says, ” Happy trails”.

  798. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    The results of the test made by the Third Indipendent Party will be published not before June 2014, as I heard recently from one of the Professors. I have not idea of the results, which could be positive or negative, as far as I can know.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  799. Fabio T.

    Hi Andrea,
    I apologize if this question has already been asked before, but I’d like to know if you did some experiments in miniaturization of the hot cat.
    How small it could be? There is a sort of “critical mass” requirement to allow the reaction to start or it’s just an engineering issue?

    Sincerely,
    Fabio

  800. Andrea Rossi

    Fabio T.:
    I cannot give specific information, so far, about this issue. Obviously we are working to increase the power density.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  801. Andrea Calaon

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    may be this TED talk can add something in the discussion about why now sapiens is the only “civilization capable” species on this planet (it seems energy plays always a key role …):
    https://www.ted.com/talks/suzana_herculano_houzel_what_is_so_special_about_the_human_brain

    Back to the LENR energy:
    - Do you know/can you tell us, for how long the H-cat tested by the third independent party has continuously worked?
    - I am curious if you’ve made any step in the direction of the supercritical carbon dioxide turbine.
    Best regards
    Good luck
    Andrea Calaon

  802. Andrea Rossi

    Andrea Calaon:
    1- all these data will be published in the report
    2- just theoretical
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  803. Andrea Rossi

    To all our Readers:
    Have a nice May 1st !
    The Board of Advisers of the JoNP

  804. Andreas Moraitis

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I’m sure that many of your readers would like to see a Hot-Cat that is producing its own electricity by a turbine or Stirling engine, at the same time loading a battery, which can provide the necessary input whenever the reactor needs a ‘break’. Did you already experiment with such a configuration, and if so, could you tell us something about the results?

    Best regards,
    Andreas Moraitis

  805. Andrea Rossi

    Andreas Moraitis:
    That is also a line for the R&D we are making. Batteries are very expensive, though, and their pay back period is not quite convincing. So far.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  806. Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi and Readers,
    You may want to Google:
    LE CONCERT WIKIPEDIA
    Click on:
    The Free Encyclopedia

    Robert Curto

  807. Andrea Rossi

    Robert Curto:
    Thank you: I strongly suggest our Readers to watch this movie, it is an inspiring masterpiece.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  808. Mark

    Thanks Andrea

    I haven’t been able to find a gas flow meter with certified K =4 with a small enough uncertainty for my Biophysics work. I ‘ll Keep looking.

    Mark

  809. Mark

    Thanks Andrea for the news
    With the gas Ecat,it will be interesting to find out, how you would determine the COP eventually. I suppose with a known gas bottle volume,energy rating and pressure, one would accurately determine the total input energy.When the whole bottle is used up ,there is not much uncertainty. I would however, avoid Gas flow meter, which normally has high uncertainty.

    Mark

  810. Andrea Rossi

    Mark:
    To measure the consumption of gas is very easy. There are thousands of certified gauges for this task.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  811. Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Andrea,
    You’re working and creating in the middle of the night.
    Not sure if that is a good or a bad habit. It sounds as if you’re restless. A never ending flow of thoughts and creativity.
    I must recommend the movie Amadeus.(1984)
    Kind regards,
    Koen

    PS: in the very near future, when artificial intelligence is operational, along with genetic engineering, we, or better the artificial intelligence, will be capable of creating new species. Then, the same A.I. could learn us about the probabilities that these things happen(ed) in nature, and if positive, how it happened. This could be very negative from another perspective.
    Interesting times are coming up. I hope we have all the energy we need for that.

  812. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    Thank you, yes I saw “Anadeus”, but the best movie I saw in my life is “The Concert” ( 2009)
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  813. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    If an eCat reactor were encased within a steel shell (while it is inactive but fueled) and a hot temperature was applied to it as in a hydrogen torch, would an eCat reaction occur, albeit a runaway reaction?

  814. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    No.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  815. Iggy Dalrymple

    Dear Dr Rossi,

    New theory why some materials have thermoelectric potential.

    http://www.rdmag.com/news/2014/04/solving-mystery-thermoelectrics?et_cid=3913885&et_rid=556728257&type=cta

    Regards,

    Iggy Dalrymple

  816. Andrea Rossi

    Iggy Dalrymple:
    Thank you for the information,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  817. silvio caggia

    @Daniel De Caluwé
    “maybe he knows or maybe not”

    The second, my friend… :-)

    “Silvio gave a description of the OSI-model (‘Open Systems Interconnection’ – model, with 7 layers, like X25) in telecommunication, isn’t it?”

    OSI model inspired me, but it is about network communications. Here I describe a working computer stand-alone.

    “Well, this model is very similar to what esoteric buddhists (like Alice Bailey) believe, because they also believe that there are 7 layers, of wich our visible world is only one (the lowest) layer.”

    It’s not exactly my example. There is no specific number of layers, you can imagine other layers below transistors (material engineer, chemist, atomic phisics…) and above user level (looking inside info contents: this thread, this site…). No magic numbers (note: I used 8 layers). No special (i.e. lowest) layers.

    I wanted only to say that we (individuals) are “structures”, made of many layers, and that we are part of other “structures” (family, firm, nation…) made of other layers. Many of these layers are invisible for many of us, but they exist.

    Something similar to the Fredric Brown’s novel “the answer” :-)
    http://www.roma1.infn.it/~anzel/answer.html

  818. Robert Curto

    Dr.Rossi, you certainly are correct about the low price of natural gas.
    The US has about a 100 to 200 year supply.
    They want to export it, to ship it:
    They change gas to liquid by cooling it to -260F it reduces the volume to
    600 times less.
    The European Union pays triple the US price, Japan pays 5 times as much.
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA

  819. Michael S

    Dear Andrea,

    While waiting – I tripped over this Besler steam engine for airplanes and maybe you like it:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw6NFmcnW-8
    It would be a fun testbed coupled to a hotcat:)
    There is one engine exposed in the Smithonian.
    http://www.flyingkettle.com/besler1.htm

    Kind regards,

    Michael S

  820. Mark

    Hi Andrea
    Could you share some news on the gas E cat?

    Mark

  821. Andrea Rossi

    Mark:
    We are working on a prototype. This night I was working on the design. Made many tests and corrections; is an important application, for obvious reasons, since gas price in the USA is quite low. I cannot say anything specific, of course, until the technology is mature for industrial applications.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  822. Daniel De Caluwé

    Satyam Brahma,
    Yanam Brahma,
    Anantam Brahma?
    ;-)

    Although the discussion about evolution is off-topic on this forum, I want to react on the latest message of Silvio Caggia, because maybe he knows or maybe not, but what he wrote is very close to what theosofists (and esoteric buddhists, like Alice Bailey) believe. And like atheïsts, they don’t believe in a God outside our world and ourselves, but they do believe that the universe is a living entity, and that it has (there are) several (etheric?) layers, of whom only one (our physical world) is visibel.

    Silvio wrote:

    There are many layers.
    Each layer is based on the layer below.
    The layer below is “machine” for the layer above.
    The layer above is “spirit” for the layer below.
    Each layer has it’s own rules.
    Eache layer “exists” even if you can’t see it.

    My reaction: Higher, Silvio gave a description of the OSI-model (‘Open Systems Interconnection’ – model, with 7 layers, like X25) in telecommunication, isn’t it? Well, this model is very similar to what esoteric buddhists (like Alice Bailey) believe, because they also believe that there are 7 layers, of wich our visible world is only one (the lowest) layer. Think also about what I wrote about ‘dark energy’ and ‘dark matter’. Could it be that the evolution is driven by the higher (and invisible) ‘etheric’ layers, and that the universe is a living entity, giving us the posibility to gradually learn to know it and its secrets, and that it breaths in and out, so that we cyclically will experience periods of expansion and periods of contraction? (= Days and nights of Brahma, that take billions of years each) ;-)

  823. DTravchenko

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    In this moment in Raleigh, where you are, is 3.03 a.m.: I am curious to see if at this time you are working, if yes and you are online, please answer me now. I want to put you a question: are you worried of all the patents and publications that are growing by the day in the worls in competition with you?

  824. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    He,he,he, yes I am working and casually online in this moment to check the JoNP’s blog ( I can do this now and again, when I have some relax). We are working very well with our R&D in this period. But it is not 3.30, it is 3.03 a.m. In this very moment I am working on the gas fueled E-Cat prototype.
    About the question: we are replicating all the experiments published from our competition, reproducing exactly what written in the patent applications or patents that are published. We are doing this work, with two our specialists, to check the worth ( the real worth) of our competition. Honestly, no results came out which could confirm the claims. So far. Obviously, the History teaches that sooner or later the competition will be born, but not so far, albeit we are not aware of the R&D of our potential competition whose results are not published.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  825. silvio caggia

    KD:
    You wrote: “For me is more important a question: Who we really are?”

    Try to answer a simpler question: what is the computer that you are staring on now?
    - An electronic engineer would see stuff like transistors, resistors and some capacitors…
    - a digital electronic engineer would see stuff like logical-AND ports, logical-OR ports, flip-flops, logical-NOT ports…
    - a microprogrammer would see stuff like microcode, registers…
    - a kernel programmer would see stuff like assembler code, addressess…
    - an operating system programmer would see stuff like processes, memory, devices, ports…
    - an application logic programmer would see stuff like loops, branch, assignments, subprocedures, functions…
    - a presentation logic programmer would see stuff like windows, fields, buttons…
    - an user would see stuff like see features, infos, inputs…
    There are many layers.
    Each layer is based on the layer below.
    The layer below is “machine” for the layer above.
    The layer above is “spirit” for the layer below.
    Each layer has it’s own rules.
    Eache layer “exists” even if you can’t see it.
    Now… Who we really are? :-)

  826. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Interesting, thank you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  827. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland and Bernie Koppenhofer:
    Waitying for the results of the test of the Third Independent Party, whose results can be positive or even negative, we cannot give any specific information regarding your questions.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  828. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Understanding that R&D is a never ending process, there must come a time when a technology is considered ‘good enough’ to be used in the marketable products.

    Do you feel that you have developed the Hot Cat to a point where it is now ready to be used in the marketplace, and it can be competitive?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  829. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    I have already stated that interactive causative effects would have changed the statistics of the homosapien event. What I was referring to is the change of the discussion from one involving statistics to one of cause and effect. This then brings topics of religion and creativity into the discussion which turns it into an entirely different question.

  830. Giovanni Guerrini

    If there is a God’s plan,it could work througt a random mutation.
    The result is the persistence of the most suitable with the enviroment.
    So,is the enviroment that molds lifeforms.
    So,if there is a plan (and I feel yes),and if it is in everything ,everything (enviroment) needs intelligence because it is a great evolutionary advantage .
    But intelligence takes self consiouness,that is another advantage and it could be the way in whitch the plan gives eyes to the universe for watching himself.
    In the Asimov’s tale the enviroment,at the end of the time,needs a solution to restart and it happens when all the universe gets self consiouness and there is completeness.

    It seems to me this would be the greater advantage of everytime.

    Regards G G

  831. Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi,

    Here is a link to an essay on Evolution by Dr. Gerald Schroeder.

    Perhaps you may agree with his viewpoint.

    (Other reader’s comments may be either positive or negative.)

    http://www.geraldschroeder.com/Evolution.aspx

    Joseph Fine

  832. Giovanni Guerrini

    This is an interesting synthesis between a trascendent and an immanent God.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Question

  833. Mark

    Hi Teemu,
    I think you got valid point that the earth can’t support more than one sapiens. There were the Neanderthals, Denisovans , Floresiensis early humans different sub species but they were out competed and absorbed. Now we can only find their fossil bones and some DNA strands within our population. There is evidence of violent confrontation between early sapiens and Neanderthals.
    Mark

  834. silvio caggia

    Dear Andrea,
    In my last comment I already suggested a potential explanation of “time deus ex-machina” problem. A sort of Lamarkian rebirth… In which genetics play the role of long term memory, epigenetics play the role of short term memory, and SBS Programs play the role of trasforming necessity into intent within the individual lifespan.
    Complementary to the “printed/photo-copied/hand-typed book analogy” you can imagine a “designer analogy”: SBS Programs draw an intentional sketch as a reaction to environment (i.e. I need a longer neck to eat higher leafs), epigenetics draws a drawning over the sketch (i.e. I transmit sperimentally to my childreen the information), genetics draws an indelible drawing over the drawning (i.e. I transmit over long time the information).

    Why, then, only humans evolved to “Michelangelo”?
    Some hints to this question:
    - “Michelangelos” are rare, not all humans are “Michelangelos”, most are artistically more similar to animals
    - “Michelangelos” are recent, there were no Michelangelos in far past, samples of last 30 centuries on a 65 millions years time-span is not representative
    - we have “Michelangelos” animals, look on my facebook the video of an elephant making a self portrait with brush and colors!
    - All animals have been exterminated to close to their extinction by the evolution of mankind… True, but only in recent times, and too quickly to see an evolutive answer
    - who says homo is the ony sapiens on earth?
    Termites build structures equivalent to a 5km high building! More you study free animals more you discover on them.
    If you observe only animals in captivity is like looking for human culture in guantanamo prisoneers…
    - some ancient traditions, and some heretic archeologist, tells us of ancient not-human species living on earth and now “emigrated” or extinguished…
    - probably homo sapiens will soon do the same…

    I think homo is not so sapiens as we feel, at least not so sapiens to perceive other species sapiensness. Our artistical expressions are often the expression of a lost ability to feel in communion with Nature, a temptative to compensate what animals do normally…
    We need time for meditation and spiritual exerciting while animals do it naturally everytime…

    Animalistic Regards
    Silvio

  835. Mark

    Hi Andrea,

    Early mammals were under developed and driven to near extinction too by the dinosaurs, which ruled the earth brutally with their big teeth . mammals only managed under ground and only came out after the asteroid hit. Evolution is absolutely mindless and blind. Our species rise also brings destruction to other species and so would be any outbreak of virus or bacteria but their number is dwindling quickly when resources or hosts ran out. Hopefully we can learn to better symbiosis like some other fugi-bacteria do.

    Mark

  836. Bertus

    Dear Mr. Rossi,
    The evidence for evolution is overwhelming. The answers is hidden in our genes.
    The DNA is the code of life. Everything on earth can be traced and linked to each other.

    You said: ’2-3 million years, we already humans, not monkeys.’
    Yet, there are some clear difference and we do looked a lot more like our close relatives today.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_evolution

    You said: ‘only humans evolved to a level to allow them to make a sculpture as the Pietà of Michelangelo?’
    This I find to be a anthropocentric view point. If you study really smart animals like, dolphins, some birds or apes closely you might see that they are that different. These creatures are highly intelligent, being smart is not just something for humans.

    The late Carl Sagan is able to make a strong case for a Universe and human evolution without the need for a deity.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8P1Y1a7-L4

    Regards,
    Bertus

  837. Mark

    Andrea,
    The animals don’t have a choice in the evolution process, which is “blind “. Some viruses are considered to be immortal as a species because of their quick mutations and adaptability. Our superiority in science and art may be judged differently on that ground by another intelligent alien species. New bacteria species branch into existence from the other species of bacteria when environmental conditions are changed , observable all the time . Maybe god only did the laws of physics and step aside

    Mark

  838. Teemu

    Dear Andrea,

    “why, then, in this relatively short time, only humans evolved to a level to allow them to make a sculpture as the Pietà of Michelangelo? A Reader said: ” because they did not need it”. Are you serious? All animals have been exterminated to close to their extinction by the evolution of mankind, because mankind, in competition with them, developed means to exterminate them, and you say they did not need evolution? They needed it brutally, but they could not.
    Why?”

    Mankind has only developed this capability over the last several thousands of years, and things are really starting to get into high gear now — the speed of our cultural evolution is far exceeding that of biological evolution. It’s “game over” for the other species at this point. Also, I believe you answered your own question: Earth could not sustain two sapient species, because one would very quickly kill the other in competition for resources.

    And all of this is assuming that the creation of sapient life is common, and can easily occur given a long enough timescale. This is a belief without scientific basis, because there’s no control.

    Best Regards,

    Teemu

  839. Silvio Caggia

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    You have doubts that the line starting from amoebas of certain kind evolved into homo sapiens only by Darwinian evolution.

    You are right saying that Darwinian evolution unlikely conducted the game alone.
    Personally I think that Darwinian evolution and genetics are comparable to the publication printing on a large scale of a book: it’s the market to decree then the success or failure over other books, but upstream there is another non-negligible process of “authoring”.
    In this process, the author has produced a limited number of photostatic copies of his work, technology more suitable for those volumes, distributing them to the people close to him and to potential publishers, and then exceeded this level before going to press. This process is implemented in Nature by epigenetics.
    But even before this verification process the author has worked alone to write his script, reading and correcting his text repeatedly, that does not show anyone until it does not satisfy him fully. This process is implemented in Nature by repeated activation of SBS Programs (which I tried to explain briefly in my slides) whose residual effects today are what we call diseases or cancer.
    Understanding this disease process, illness make no fear…
    It remains unexplained to me how and why it has been possible to develop the infrastructure behind SBS Programs in the first multicellular organisms… Here I spread my arms and everyone now can have their opinion: Fortuity, intrinsic properties of matter, cosmic panspermia, alien visitors, God, the Shan… Choose one and hope! :-)

    Best wishes
    Silvio

  840. Andrea Rossi

    Silvio Caggia:
    Darwin has explained in an absolutely clear and acceptable way how the characters more fit to survive have been selectet through the time: features not fit for the environment did disappear because the bearers of such features did not survive and, therefore, could not reproduce; on the contrary, bearers of features more fit for the changing environment lived well, reproduced their race and their features remained. Until here I share the Darwinism and consider it scientifically sustainable. But it is time, I hope, to re-think about the taumaturgic powers that commonly are conferred to Darwinism about the fact that, along the same process, an ameba can become a human… just it takes time. Here comes the first “deus ex machina”: time. As if time could be infinite. But it is not: evolution of the existing species had just several million years of time ! The humans of which we have fossil evidence are from 2-3 million years, and they were already humans, not monkeys. In three million years they just got nicer, but basically there is no substantial difference between them and us. Again: if we go back, we find dinosaurs. So, after the dinosaurs extinction all animals evolution started from the same point of application of time: why, then, in this relatively short time, only humans evolved to a level to allow them to make a sculpture as the Pietà of Michelangelo? A Reader said: ” because they did not need it”. Are you serious? All animals have been exterminated to close to their extinction by the evolution of mankind, because mankind, in competition with them, developed means to exterminate them, and you say they did not need evolution? They needed it brutally, but they could not.
    Why?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  841. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    When you say that you will give exhaustive information regarding the products that will be generated by your R&D — where and when can we expect this will be published? Will Industrial Heat have a web site with this information on it, or in some other means?

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  842. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    The Commercial Dept of Industrial Heat will produce all the necessary literature.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  843. Koen Vandewalle

    additional:
    feudalism has huge abilities to generate superior needs: bigger castles, more staff, advanced military, etc…

  844. Koen Vandewalle

    Monkeys have hands, and can manipulate objects better than other species. It may be possible that early forms of trade – do things for each other to obtain a reward- and a beginning of feudalism have appeared in monkey societies. It is seen that with Japanese macaques the females of the group decide that the most intelligent male leads the group. Intelligent does in this case also mean the best capacities for different kinds of social behaviour e.g. conflict solving. I learnt this as a tourist as a serendipity when I had the intention to entertain my children.
    Maybe a beginning of some proof.
    Maybe “software” evolution is exponentially faster than “hardware”.
    With the destruction of our biosphere and its biodiversity, we destroy lots of capabilities for evolution.
    Maybe intelligent life is meant to stay on one planet.
    Maybe it is autodestructive. (It should, if it does not decide to seek equilibrium and harmony)
    Otherwise E.T.’s A.I. would have decided that Homo Sapiens is a threat, and make sure to strike first.

  845. KD

    Andrea Rossi
    Teemu:
    We are missing the core of the problem: why thousands of other animals did not make whatever it needs to evolve beyond the standard of the survival evolution kit?

    Mr. Rossi
    The answer to the question is the same, why the thousands of your e-cats design did not survive the testing process.

    For me is more important question: Who we realy are?. The machine in form of material body or a real human as a spirit in human body (materialistic form) to be able to work and create in materialistic world.

    If the theory of Big Bang is right (and I believe it is possible), some thing have to exist, to press the button to start the explosion.
    Then the “evolution” is a natural process as it exists in our life, in science, in new technologies.

  846. domenico canino

    andrea rossi
    a very good mess, i see
    mechanical regards
    domenico canino

  847. Mark

    Hi Andrea,

    You mentioned: “I totally disagree on the convinction that a monkey can become homo sapiens through the same principle, because in this case there should be no reason at all for a lion not to become a Lion Sapiens, as well as a mouse become a mouse sapiens etc”. But Please remember that evolution is a “blind” process and is driven by the “pressure” of the environment, where the animals live and “Intelligent” is not an ultimate goal but the ultimate goal is how successful the species turn out to be. The Lion does not turn into a “Lion Sapiens” and a mouse does not turn into a “mouse sapiens” because The Lion can do better as a species with better claws better teeth better muscles to bring down preys… Likewise the mouse can do better as a species with the ability to reproduce extremely quickly and can consume any food types and better camouflage. “Intelligent” may be not the best survival strategy at all, we call ourselves intelligent beings but we can nuke each others a bring an end to our world at anytime. If a giant asteroid hits earth tomorrow I bet the cockroaches will fair better than humans. Homo sapiens were under “pressure” and naturally selected to develop bigger brain as a survival strategy because they had no sharp teeth or claws..and were best perform as species with bigger brain.

    Mark

    Mark

  848. Andrea Rossi

    Mark:
    Same answer as to Teemu.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  849. Teemu

    Dear Andrea,

    “why thousands of other animals did not make whatever it needs to evolve beyond the standard of the survival evolution kit?”

    Because they didn’t need to. Sulfur bacteria at the bottom of the sea are arguably the crown of evolution, because they use anaerobic chemosynthesis and would survive a nuclear holocaust or an asteroid. Evolution isn’t directed towards higher order, but adaptability. As the ancestors of humans wandered from the forest to the savanna some millions of years ago, they found themselves in a new situation that favored walking upright and divising more clever methods of hunting. But we wouldn’t probably consider something like an Australopithecus a human by today’s standards. The “last mile” advancements that spawned culture and inventions may have been a lucky fluke that is unique in the whole Universe, and if we went extinct, such a fluke would probably not happen again. We simply do not know.

  850. Andrea Rossi

    Teemu:
    To say that no other animals evolved Beyond survival features because they did not need it is a sophism. The fact that they did not need it is because they did not evolve up to a superior mind able to generate superior needs.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  851. Peter Forsberg

    Interesting Andrea,

    As you suspect, so do I. Namely that Darwin’s evolutionary therory does not tell the whole story. The gradual adaptions that Darwin invented, do not explain speciation (i.e. when new species are created). Evolution created different versions of canines, but it did not create canines in the first place. From the empirical evidence, it is clear that it is very difficult for new species to be created.

    Regards

    Peter Forsberg

  852. Andrea Rossi

    Peter Forsberg:
    Yes, you made a point that matches with what I think.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  853. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    You must be as excited and anxious as an expectant father. The publication of the 3PI report should determine what you have sired. Perhaps you have an ultrasound picture(pre unofficial information) but as in any birth, only when the baby emerges do you have positive conformation of its health. I hope this discussion of human character and its development can provide you with a little diversion from anxiety about such a tremendously important event.
    I have attempted to confine the discussion to mathematical statistical probabilities but one other consideration must be included. Some researchers claim that the development of human intelligence required a combination of genetic and sociological factors. Because of the ability to communicate complex thoughts to others in the family, participation by these individuals provided refinements which expanded the knowledge inherent in the ideas much like this discussion we are having now. As more individuals participate the ideas can become more cognizant.
    I do not smoke so I will drink a toast to the birth of your invention.

  854. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    when you talk of “combinations” you automatically fall in a probabilistic calculation.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  855. Giovanni Guerrini

    Now the question is : why ?
    Matter evolves in intelligence structure and this has self counsiosness,the matter gets eyes for watching itself.
    Why ?
    Why universe has this prerogative,this need ?
    I don’t know “what” is God,I don’t know if He is ex machina or immanent in everythig,but I know that when we watch in the deep of ours eyes in a mirror, we see somethig that is over the time,and if we look around we can see the same thing in everythig.
    Why ?
    Is this the last answer? I don’t know,but it could be.

    Mystics regards ! G G

  856. Marcus Haber

    I think because a larger brain didnt help them. I bet there were and are a lot of little mutations in other mamals as well so single individuals have larger and smarter performing brains. But not for every form of life this equals better chance of survival.

    Andrea Rossi
    April 28th, 2014 at 9:09 AM
    Teemu:
    We are missing the core of the problem: why thousands of other animals did not make whatever it needs to evolve beyond the standard of the survival evolution kit?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  857. Teemu

    Dear Andrea,

    The similarity between base pairs of humans and chimpanzees is not the only thing. Human chromosome 2 appears to be a fusion of chimpanzee chromosomes 2a and 2b (which explains why humans have one chromosome less). Here they are compared side-by-side:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OdgI-vecao

    Now, there’s no way the pattern of similarity would continue into the 2b chromosome, if the two didn’t share a common ancestor. At least the Creator has made it seem that way, wouldn’t you agree?

    Best Regards,

    Teemu

  858. Andrea Rossi

    Teemu:
    We are missing the core of the problem: why thousands of other animals did not make whatever it needs to evolve beyond the standard of the survival evolution kit?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  859. Iggy Dalrymple

    Dear Dr. Rossi,

    I’m with you on evolution. Evolution exists but it cannot explain the sudden ascendancy of man. Velikovsky, an atheist and friend of Einstein, argued the same. Velikovsky suspected that man’s dna was suddenly induced to rapid mutation, possibly by a cataclysmic event, such as a solar radiation storm. I doubt that’s the answer, because the other animals would have also been exposed.

    My guess is that primitive man was interbred with extraterrestrial beings, possibly angels. The Bible speaks of fallen angels breeding with earthen women. The ancient Sumerians wrote of visitors from the sky interbreeding with humans.

    An extraterrestrial visitation, in my mind, could have been God’s way of creating modern man. Only man is capable of unconditional love. God is love and He created us in His image.

    Sincerely,

    Iggy Dalrymple

  860. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    A very interesting conversation. I think the large odds against the evolution of animals to the status of thinking humans is the reason more cognizance is not found in other species. Homo sapiens won the lottery by developing a number of characteristics not found in other animals.Two of which are the growth of larger brain sizes and the necessary vocal structures for complex verbal communication. These traits among others(Gestation periods, etc) I think reduced the odds to the point where intelligence could be obtained.

  861. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Yes, but: why thousands of other animals have not evoluted someway along a similar path? Maybe…not able to study the Relativity, but at least able to read and write like a first grader! But still I understand, while I am writing, that maybe there is an example of an animal that someway found a way to write and read, albeit with some limitation: the Snake.

  862. Joe

    Dr Rossi,

    1. You seem to contradict yourself with the two following statements:

    “With the extinction of dinosaurs the evolution of new animals started.”

    “But I still have a question: why all the thousands of other species did not evolve,…”

    2. You ask, “Why there is not a beast able to write and read…” But evolutionists do not base their theory on whether or not an animal can read or write. In fact, homo sapiens has been reading and writing only very, very recently.

    3. The distance between a non-reading, non-writing chimpanzee and a reading, writing human is very small:

    “…human DNA is approximately 98.4% identical to that of chimpanzees when comparing single nucleotide polymorphisms…” (Wikipedia, Hominidae)

    All the best,
    Joe

  863. Andrea Rossi

    Joe:
    Same answer I gave to Orsobubu, plus: the apparently slightness of the DNA difference between man and monkey, appears to be substantial: “very small” is a very uncertain definition. But, rethinking, maybe you are right: the missing link between man and monkey could be found in the Snake and his Pseudonyms family.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  864. domenico canino

    Il pianeta delle macchine
    Un giorno su uno strano pianeta non molto distante dal nostro apparve la vita, ma non la vita come la conosciamo noi, in forma biologica, ma in forma meccanica. Cioè apparvero esseri meccanici costituiti di acciaio, leve, motori a combustione, fili, tubi dell’olio, etc. Insomma un mondo di macchine. C’erano macchine molto semplici con funzioni basilari elementari come produrre calore o forza motrice e macchine molto più complesse che potevano fare cose meravigliose, come pensare, volare, trasmettere suoni ed immagini a distanza, etc.
    Questo mondo aveva delle religioni e degli scritti antichissimi in cui si parlava di un Dio macchina che aveva creato gli esseri macchina a sua immagine e somiglianza, ed aveva dato loro anche la capacità di riprodursi, e che bisognava seguire le dieci tavole della legge, cioè non avrai altra macchina fuori di me, non rubare l’olio lubrificante altrui, etc. Ma la scienza su questo pianeta progrediva, e molte macchine tra le più sapienti ed evolute, con più memoria (RAM) più intelligenza (processori di ultima generazione) e capacità di progettare altre macchine (software evoluto), cominciarono a porsi il problema di come fosse apparsa la prima macchina sul pianeta. Se c’era stata una creazione da parte di un Dio oppure la vita delle macchine era nata dal caso.
    Molti furono tacciati di eresia dai sacerdoti del Dio macchina, e fusi al rogo degli altiforni, perché avevano osato contraddire la Creazione e gli scritti religiosi. Ma gli scienziati macchina più testardi elaborarono la teoria della evoluzione delle macchine, perché nel frattempo l’archeologia e la storia avevano trovato degli antichi reperti meccanici, resti delle prime forme di vita primitiva, e cosa sorprendente queste macchine primitive funzionavano con lo stesso principio di quelle moderne.
    Allora si teorizzò che per caso in un tempo lontano il minerale ferro che stava nelle viscere del pianeta si fosse liberato delle impurità, poi si fosse (sempre da solo e per caso) fuso in forme strane di vita come cilindri e pistoni, che poi milioni di anni dopo si sarebbero incontrati, e infilati l’uno dentro l’altro, per un movimento possibile. Molti milioni di anni dopo ci fu l’incontro (sempre casuale) con il carburante petrolio che si era posizionato in un serbatoio sempre casualmente formatosi in milioni di anni di cristallizzazione nelle immediate vicinanze.
    Poi erano nati da lunghissimi processi evolutivi separati e casuali, il carburatore, la pompa, la candela, l’albero di trasmissione del moto, la cinghia dentata in gomma e la puleggia, etc. E poi dopo svariati milioni di anni, di eventi catastrofici planetari, di tempeste di meteoriti, di numerosi enormi eventi sismici, sempre per caso e progressivamente tutti i pezzi erano andati al posto giusto, il cilindro ed il pistone, furono messi in un blocco motore, vicino alla candela, e così via tutti gli altri pezzi, dalla combustione all’alternatore all’impianto elettrico. Era nata la macchina con il motore a combustione termico.
    Poi in molti milioni di anni la macchina motore si era molto evoluta, aveva molti più cavalli rispetto all’esemplare primordiale grazie sempre al caso si erano evolute tutte le parti meccaniche del motore, erano nate candele di nuova generazione da una nuova millenaria cristallizzazione di ceramiche, si erano costituite casualmente per reazioni iterative delle nuove leghe metalliche per i cilindri ed i pistoni, poi era nata da un fulmine globulare la iniezione elettronica del carburante, etc. La teoria della evoluzione soppiantò nel pensiero corrente, quella della creazione, e diventò quella maggioritaria, il Maistream.
    Ma poi qualcuno che non credeva al Dio macchina e che non credeva neanche a tutta questa infinita serie di eventi casuali, si mise a fare degli esperimenti sui pistoni e cilindri. E si accorse che per quanto provasse a lasciare alle intemperie ed al caso ciottoli di minerale ferroso al massimo otteneva delle pietre bucate, o delle pietre levigate, ma la probabilità che il caso creasse separatamente un cilindro di acciaio levigato ed un pistone di acciaio levigato perfettamente a misura che uno potesse produrre lavoro utile uno dentro l’altro era infinitesima. Enunciò pubblicamente la propria teoria che una intelligenza potesse aver creato cilindro e pistone in tali forme e per uno scopo, e fu attaccato ferocemente da tutti gli evoluzionisti del Mainstream che dicevano che no, che allora si ricadeva nelle credenze religiose antiquate del Dio macchina, e contemporaneamente anche dagli altri sacerdoti del Dio macchina, che dicevano che non bisognava né studiare né fare esperimenti, poiché la creazione era descritta chiaramente nei loro testi religiosi, e che bisognava credere in quelli ciecamente e basta, dogmaticamente.
    Insomma il povero scienziato macchina che voleva sperimentare per capire, fu schiacciato da entrambi gli schieramenti, solo perché aveva osato indagare, e vera o falsa che fosse la sua idea, recava con sé il peccato originale di tutte le macchine, cioè voi non siete nate per pensare, a pensare ci pensiamo noi che sappiamo e possiamo, tu non sei un nostro pari, non sei peer reviewed. Fu rinchiuso nelle caverne segrete della regione degli esseri del motociclo, i terribili Honda, a regime di benzina putrida ed antigelo: unica concessione un pistone ed un cilindro con cui lambiccarsi la centralina e continuare a chiedersi: ma come è stato possibile che…
    Ogni riferimento a persone e fatti accaduti è puramente casuale.

  865. Andrea Rossi

    Domenico Canino:
    …but after some year he exited the cave and came out with what had invented during the long years of imprisonment, making a mess.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  866. Andrea Rossi

    Andrea Moraitis:
    Same answer I gave to Orsobubu.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  867. Dear Andrea,

    I think that it would be good if the main points of the agreement that you have made with the testing team would also be described in connection with publishing the report. You have already revealed many bits and pieces of such agreement in this blog (I mean: results published regardless of positive/negative, neutral testing location, other measures taken to guarantee independence, 3-day period etc. etc.), but it would be good if this information would also be confirmed by the testers and if they would collect it in one place so that it is easily accessible. Perhaps it could be an appendix to the report that they will publish or a separate file … it doesn’t matter, as long as it’s accessible to all, gives a complete and truthful picture of the agreement, and is signed by the testers.
    regards, /pekka

  868. Andrea Rossi

    Pekka Janhunen:
    same answer I gave to Orsobubu; I agree with you we need a logical explication, but once we get it we can make “epochè” and attack it to find something more logical. This too is evolution.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  869. Teemu

    Dear Andrea,

    It could well be that the circumstances that lead to selective pressure for higher cognitive function, and the subsequently required lucky homeotic gene mutations are extremely rare — perhaps as or even more rare than the creation of RNA and DNA itself. We simply do not know, because we do not have a basis for comparison. Consider the Anthropic principle: if there were no intelligent life in the Universe, there would be no intelligent life to observe it. Indeed, the odds against our existence as a species may be absurdly high, yet here we are only after the fact.

    It is also not correct to say that cats only evolve within cats (microevolution). A species does not have a clear-cut specification locked into place. Directional selection causes a species to drift into different directions over time. If a single species splits due to a geological barrier, for example, after some millions of years the two sub-species won’t be able to mate anymore –> they will have become cousins of each other. There really couldn’t be any other way, because there isn’t a mechanism in DNA to stop drifting away from the original genotype after a certain time. Still, macroevolution is not categorically different from microevolution; it is simply a series of microevolutions. Every offspring is still the same species as its parent. Like the hour hand of a clock, the differences only become apparent over eons.

    There have been many hominid species, as you are well aware, but they were all competitively excluded by our ancestors. This is because they inhabited the same ecological niche.

    I highly recommend Richard Dawkins’ book, The Greatest Show on Earth. It gave me answers and an understanding to the similar kinds of questions that you ask.

    Best Regards,

    Teemu

  870. Andrea Rossi

    Teemu:
    Evolution of hominides is still inside the family of human beings. After that, hominides exterminated each other to predate. Nothing substantially new. That re-enters in the field of internal evolution within the same specimen.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  871. Andrea Rossi

    Eugenio Meli:
    I do not apply any principle, I am not a biologist; I apply the “epochè” to the Darwinism and observe that under a pure probabilistic mathematical calculus it is extremely unlike that among thousands of animals only humans have been able to evolve beyond the surviving evolutionary standard. I don’t say it is impossible ( everything is possible applying a proper probabilistic factor), I just say it is very, very unprobable.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  872. orsobubu

    Andrea,

    I like these posts, they make me happy because assuring you are always interested in the selection of specific Ecats more fit to survive that other kinds of Ecats, and this is good for us and for LENR evolution.

    About organic evolution, I would add that we should decide what is intelligence. In example, I know a lot of animal species that cannot write, but are incredibly more “intelligent” than us in their adaptation to their environment. I think that if someone would menace their existence, given sufficient time, they would evolve to survive, perhaps learning to build weapons, communicate, etc. One can say that we can destroy their environment first, impeding this evolution, but this would be a grim perspective for our intelligence, because this would wipe out us before them. There are tribes of men living in the jungle exactly genetically evolved as us, but more intelligently adapted and harmonic with their environment than us, and they don’t write, but also don’t destroy, etc. We should not confuse biological, darwinian evolution, with cultural, marxian evolution, you know.

    About the divine intervention, we should consider that there are a lot of recent improvements on Darwin theories and DNA mechanisms, well explaining some misteries: for example, the obscure parts of DNA now are known to be of paramount importance in genetics, triggering changes that would be impossible on an evolution by selection timespan. A casual, single gene modification in only one blind insect can incredibly produce a full developed functional eye!

    I think that man is more culturally, marxistically evolved than others species, but, genetically, we are equally evolved than theirs, at the top of each current specifical potential in the specific environment. Man evolved his intelligence in order to survive in the casual biologial niche he was living in; now there are new viruses and bacteria that are evolving more “intelligently” and more quickly than us, in order to survive in their specific microscopic niche, and we are losing too.

    We should see the question in this way: a single flux of biological evolution, where the living being is a unique flux of life originating by primordial waters, where we are at the top of the dominating chain, but we are at the top exactly because there are plenty of other species perfectly evolved in such a way to permit us to be here. So, we are not here because there is a superior entity that divinely choosed for us, but we are here because there are inferior species that genetically choosed for us. A sort of anthropic principle applied to biology.

    So we can shift, if you want, the question of a superior intervention, from the evolution of man, where frankly I cannot see it, and where I would focus mainly on Ecat evolution and on marxistic cultural revolution, to the evolution of the universe. Here there are more doubts, and there is space to imagine
    some unknown natural, spinozian forces or some supernatural entities driving the process, even if I would not bet on them and where I would not assign a special role to man. Don’t forget that almost the totally of our theistic, supernatural production is derived from marxian necessity of class-exploitation control, and I say it because I know that you don’t agree but you will defend to the death my right to etc etc.

    Another interesting field for you is the possibility of a “mechanical” evolution of man itself, a mix of biology and synthetic technology, what Kurtzweil sees as the “singularity”, when machines will evolve into autonomous entitites incorporating the biologic man and – I add – probably empowered by a small Ecat-engine. But also this topic raises more social and technologic issues than religious ones.

  873. Andrea Rossi

    Orsobubu:
    You cannot compare what the other species have reached in term of evolution, just to survive in a changing environment, with what has been achieved by the human race. One thing is the reproduction of characteristics more fit to survive and non reproduction of the less fit, a completely different thing is to write the Relativity Theory, make the sculpture of the Pietà of Michelangelo, write the music of Beethoven, etc.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  874. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    You mention that you are solely involved in R&D efforts with the E-Cat these days. Can you give us an idea of the rate of progress that is taking place with your technology? How do the E-Cats you are experimenting with today compare with your early models?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  875. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Our R&D never stops. Every day progress is made. I cannot give specific information about what we are doing, but we will give exhaustive information regarding the products that will be generated by the R&D we are making. Let me also remind you that the results of R&D could be positive, but also negative.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  876. Eugenio Mieli

    Andrea,

    I understand that we are off-topic in this blog, but your reply is too interesting to be left open.

    You apply the so-called “principle of mediocrity”, which states: if a thing happened once, it could happen again with the same ease. Simple and straightforward.

    Contrasted to this principle which, we must remember, is an a priori assumption, there is the “anthropic principle” according to which our existence unbalances any evaluation since it is the cornerstone not only of our history, but of the entire universe (see the fine book by John D. Barrow and Frank J. Tipler, “the Anthropic Principle”, Milan, Adelphi, 2002).

    An “anthropic” description (which I prefer) rather than “mediocre” of events can certainly suggest the existence of a preconceived plan (natural or divine), of a ultimate goal. But things are more complicated… as always. Especially if we are dealing with events that occur in one case out of ten billions each galaxy.

    Eugenio

  877. Andreas Moraitis

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    We still don’t know which species on this planet will win the race. From nature’s point of view, we might not at all be the ‘smartest’, as we tend to assume.

    Best regards,
    Andreas Moraitis

  878. Andrea Rossi

    Eugenio Meli:
    Let alone the cosmic time, we have a precise timespan to take in consideration, and it is limited to several millions of years, which is the timespan after the extinction of dinosaurs. With the extinction of dinosaurs the evolution of new animals started. That is our time application point. From then to now ( several millions of years, not cosmic times) the darwinists say that the line that starting from amebas of certain kind, arriving to monkeys evolved into homo sapiens. Good, I am happy of that. But I still have a question: why all the thousands of other species did not evolve, with exception of some secondary characteristics to get the fittest to survive? Why there is not a beast able to write and read ( except the snake, with some limitations)?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  879. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    I forgot to add that chance and probability is the God brought by the machine. You have created much enjoyment in my life through the drama of your work.

  880. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie 1:
    Mathematic probabilistic calculus is against darwinism; as a matter of fact my good sense tells me it is impossible that, if Evolution is the deus ex machina, among thousands of animal lines only monkeys evolved in a sapiens form ( with exception of the snake ). It is a nonsense. Obviously I share the concept of evoluton made by selection of the fittest, but this within the evolution of specific cats more fit to survive that other kinds of cats; I totally disagree on the convinction that a monkey can become homo sapiens through the same principle, because in this case there should be no reason at all for a lion not to become a Lion Sapiens, as well as a mouse become a mouse sapiens etc. You could answer : ” because mankind has stopped by predation their evolution”. Nonsense: they have had the same timespan of monkeys to evolve, and there is no evidence in archeology of struggles between ” sapientes” of different species struggling to survive as the fittest.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  881. silvio caggia

    eernie1:
    “You have outlined the philosophies of Pantheism(don’t kill a flea)”

    We where talking about cancer cells, not fleas.
    You want to kill cancer cells because you think they are “bad”. This idea (that they are “bad”) is one biologic paradigm. I gave you the opportunity to discover another different biologic paradigm. Discovering it, or not, is your choice. Nothing to do with any -theism.

    “Existentialism(Nature is the guide for all events)”

    Nothing to do with any -ism. I repeat: I am talking about biology. Nature is the “book” to study, embriology/evolution the “key”.

    “and for good measure, Metaphysics(mental curing) in your remarks.”

    Nothing to do with metaphysics or magic or new age… Only biology.

    “Show me how the scientific method can prove the existence of a supreme being and I will join your group.”

    Which supreme being? Which group?

    “Again I cant argue against faith.”

    Me neither.

  882. orsobubu

    Andrea,

    I disagree with what you say, and I don’t know if I will defend to the death your right to shoot an arrow into the back of Darwin

  883. Andrea Rossi

    Orsobubu:
    To shield the back of Darwin you just explain why among thousands of animal species only monkeys evoluted to a sapiens level. Under mathematically probabilistic rules, it is impossible.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  884. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    The only reason I can propose for the evolution of only one humanoid species capable of the intelligence of man is that the statistics involved in assembling the necessary combination of genes to create this marvelous species is overwhelming large. It is a miracle that we exist as an intelligent life form.We can thank chance for creating humans such as you who can contribute so much to the knowledge and utility that man enjoys.

  885. Eugenio Mieli

    Andrea,

    you’re right. The probabilities that we consider in these cases(the spontaneous emergence of intelligent life) are very small if compared to the common life.

    However, these probabilities are sufficiently meaningful if they refer to the size and cosmic times.

    There is a book by Claudio Maccone (International Academy of Astronautics), Mathematical SETI, that is a monumental work on the statistical calculation of the spread of intelligent life.

    Starting from the famous Drake equation, he manages mathematically to find answers even to fundamental questions such as yours.

    I found it amazing.

    Eugenio

  886. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie:
    My Friend,
    show me one reason for which in some billion years only humans got evolution from monkeys to homo sapiens, and not at least one out of the thousands of animals of this planet got evolution to something sapiens and I will believe to the creative capacity of Evolution ( Deus ex machina).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  887. eernie1

    Silvio,
    You have outlined the philosophies of Pantheism(don’t kill a flea), Existentialism(Nature is the guide for all events) and for good measure, Metaphysics(mental curing) in your remarks. Show me how the scientific method can prove the existence of a supreme being and I will join your group. Again I cant argue against faith.

  888. Daniel De Caluwé

    @ Orsobubu,

    I don’t agree completely with what you wrote in your last message.

    You wrote: Differently from cosmic microwave background anisotropies and baryon acoustic oscillations, which are really observed, redshifts and galaxy’s receding speed are not yet really confirmed, so the existence of dark matter, dark energy, inflation and accelerating universe are having only indirect support and can be considered as ‘enigmatic concepts’.

    My answer: Referring to what I wrote earlier on this blog ( http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=829&cpage=2#comment-847121 ), I don’t agree with what you wrote above, because based on the well known spectrum of supernovae, that were used as a reference, astronomers have proven that in the first 5 to 6 or 7 billion years of the universe, we had decelerated expansion of the universe (deceleration due to gravity), but after that period, the universe suddenly started to expand with an – up to now – ever accelerating pace. So, astronomers have proven that our universe behaves and behaved like this, but, I agree, they cannot explain it. So they had to introduce the concept of ‘dark energy’ as a ‘deus ex machina’. But, of course, using red-shifts (of the wellknown spectra of supernovae) in their method, presumes that the speed of light is a constant in the vacuüm (special relativity), and from the moment you doubt the latter, then you can say that this is not well established science, but in that case you put everything under doubt. So, if you accept special relativity, and the fact that the speed of light is a constant in the vacuüm, than you also have to accept what astronomers observed (in 1998) with the Hubble telescope.

    Kind Regards,

  889. silvio caggia

    Eernie1:
    “I will not discuss natural/alternative medicine since…”

    Neither me. I am speaking of biology.
    I am afraid you were not able to read the italian language slides, sorry.

    “There is no conclusions that can be made because there is no way to logically prove a point and that is why people base their conclusions on faith.”

    There was something called “scientific method” time ago… :-)

    “However your statement that Nature does not make mistakes can be disputed by noting the number of organisms which have become extinct because of a fault in their construction.”

    Even the fact that you and me will die is not a mistake but an efficent strategy of Nature. If you have a better strategy for evolution you had to suggest it to Nature millions years ago… Why didn’t you do that? Oh… Perhaps you were not there… Perhaps you are the result of all this mistakes… Ok, probably sometimes something goes wrong… :-)

    “Another example could be how sickle cell anemia has spread in Africa. People with the errant gene are immune to Malaria and therefor survive in larger numbers to spread the gene. A million people a year die from Malaria many of them children.”

    Think on the fact that malaria deaths are not proportional to parasitemia… Remember ptolemaic epicycles? :-)

    Anyway, as I already said, you are free to kill everythink you think is “bad”, I only warn you that there are alternative biologic paradigms about this.
    When you finish things to kill and have still not solved your problems, remember to consider them. :-)

  890. eernie1

    Silvio,
    I will not discuss natural/alternative medicine since much of it depends on faith and thus in my opinion in the same category as Religion. There is no conclusions that can be made because there is no way to logically prove a point and that is why people base their conclusions on faith. However your statement that Nature does not make mistakes can be disputed by noting the number of organisms which have become extinct because of a fault in their construction. Another example could be how sickle cell anemia has spread in Africa. People with the errant gene are immune to Malaria and therefor survive in larger numbers to spread the gene. A million people a year die from Malaria many of them children.

  891. Andrea Rossi

    Prof. Seshavatharam:
    Orsobubu comments your paper. What do you think? By the way: we would appreciate very much more comments regarding Astrophysics, because “in asteris” there are nuclear laboratories unthinkable to be made on the Earth, from which there is to learn substantially.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  892. orsobubu

    we constantly hear talkng about dark matter, and I think this is a clear example of the enormous distance physics will have to ride in the search of explanation of reality. In this link, you can read a professor supporting dark energy against aether:

    http://www.sciencefriday.com/blogs/06/08/2012/dark-matter-vs-aether.html

    here the opposite instead:

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/09/060908-dark-matter.html

    and here there is a summary of current aether theories:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_theories#Dark_Energy_as_Aether

    it is also interesting that, here in ROssi’s JONP, there are numerous articles by
    Prof. Seshavatharam and Lakshminarayana that, although never discussing aether, are strongly critical of dark energy and dark matter. If i understood well – only the summaries :) – their main field is cosmology; due to Hubble constants, the indication for the existence of dark energy is related with observations of distance measurements and associated redshifts. Differently from cosmic microwave background anisotropies and baryon acoustic oscillations, which are really observed, redshifts and galaxy’s receding speed are not yet really confirmed, so the existence of dark matter, dark energy, inflation and accelerating universe are having only indirect support and can be considered as ‘enigmatic concepts’. So, considering the atomic and nuclear physical constants, till today cosmic acceleration is not yet verified and the role of dark energy or dark matter is very insignificant, unclear and undecided in understanding the basic concepts of unification of fundamental interactions. In particle cosmology, also “popular” 10 dimensional string theory is not in a position to couple the nuclear scale and planck scale. They propose a math theory instead based on atomic and nuclear physics to verify the cosmic acceleration and cosmic geometry.

    it would be interesting if the Professors could tell us their opinion on the aether subject, also in relation to recent discoveries about cosmic microwave background anisotropy and inflation

  893. silvio caggia

    Eernie1:
    Some people have studied the cancer problem, and generally speaking the “illness” problem, under a point of view different from mainstream paradigm of standard medicine.
    It’s like looking at sun and planets movements with the tolemaic approach or with the new copernican paradigm shift: each cancer gets a biological significance, according to evolutive history, in each specific living organism.
    I tried to synthesize the core concepts of their studies in some slides here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9z8hvgr78k0o8s9/Corso%20Le%205%20Leggi%20Biologiche.doc
    I am sorry that it’s an italian language document, but I hope you can google-translate it or find your language specific resources in the net.
    Keep in mind that Nature never do stupid things, while humans do a lot… History should teach us something.

  894. eernie1

    Silvio,
    I agree that if a cell can show it benefits any human physical well being it should be preserved. However I have never encountered any situation where a cancer cell has enhanced the quality of any organ or animal function. On the contrary all cancer cells I have knowledge of produced negative effects. Can you cite an instance where a cancer cell has been beneficial?

  895. silvio caggia

    Joseph Fine, Robert Curto, Eernie1:
    Before to kill a living cell we should ask ourself which is the role of that cell in our entire organism.
    Millions years evolution cannot create a complex process that has no biological significance.
    Every cancer, as any other so called “illness”, has a specific and well defined biological significance in the economy of the organism’s life.
    If you understand this biological significance you can follow its program according to its millions-years wisdom. Otherwise you can kill all that you don’t understand, with the consequences we know…

  896. Wladimir Guglinski

    Steven N. Karels wrote in April 25th, 2014 at 1:15 PM

    Wladimir,

    Some questions – I am being neutral on your theory

    1. —————————–
    Is the existence of some type of aether critical to your theory?
    ——————————–

    Steven,
    from an empty space magnetic and electric fields cannot be created.
    Einstein solved such paradox simply claiming that the empty space has the property of to create magnetic and electric fields.

    In my theory is proposed a structure of the aether able to create magnetic, electric, and gravitational fields.

    2. ———————————————–
    Can this aether be detected through experimental testing?
    ————————————————–

    Yes,
    you can see the aether in action when you see iron dust in magnetic field:
    http://fuches.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/campo_magnetico.jpg

    In 2011 an experiment proved the existence of the aether, published in the journal Nature:
    Light created from vacuum shows empty space a myth
    http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-11-19/science/30418928_1_vacuum-dce-photons

    An empty space cannot create light

    Light (electromagnetic radiation) is naturally always created (emitted) by excitation of matter (nuclei, atoms, molecules).

    In the experiment published by Nature in 2011 light was created by the aether (without excitation of matter). This means that the aether must have a structure, subjected to be excited so that to emit light.

    An empty space cannot have a structure. Therefore an empty space cannot be excited, so that to emit light

    Any person who believes that the empty nothing can be excited so that to create light should be admitted to a hospice.

    3. ——————————————–
    If it cannot not be detected, would this disprove your theory?
    ———————————————–

    The aether was already detected in the experiment published by the journal Nature in 2011.
    Light created from vacuum shows empty space a myth
    http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-11-19/science/30418928_1_vacuum-dce-photons

    regards
    wlad

  897. Steven N. Karels

    Wladimir,

    Some questions – I am being neutral on your theory
    1. Is the existence of some type of aether critical to your theory?
    2. Can this aether be detected through experimental testing?
    3. If it cannot not be detected, would this disprove your theory?

  898. Joe

    Steven,

    Aether is a concept. An electron is a concept. A while back, electricity was considered a fluid. Then a flow of particles (electrons). Then the particle had wave characteristics. Today an electron is a vibration in a multidimensional membrane that includes space and time as we humans perceive them. Obviously concepts never end. They act as necessary precursors to mathematical description. They provide structure and guidance in experimentation which leads to mathematical description. Aether is no less real than an electron. Once, a solid aether existed in a Universe containing empty space. Today, no aether exists in a Universe containing solid space (Membrane Theory). Membrane Theory is Aether Theory by another name. What is old is new again. Concepts are like that.

    All the best,
    Joe

  899. Steven N. Karels

    Peter and JR,

    Thanks for the explanations. I have no intellectual problem with empty space but I am open to other concepts. As an engineer, I deal in the macro-world — so what is “reality” between atoms does not affect my work.

  900. Wladimir Guglinski

    Steven N. Karels wrote in April 24th, 2014 at 3:34 AM

    Wladimir and Joe,

    While I am not qualified to join the discussion, can one of you or both address Wladimir’s use of the term aether? I was taught, so long ago now, the this is no aether based on several experiments. Thanks.
    ———————————————-

    COMMENT

    Steven
    the aether rejected by Einstein was concerning the lumineferous aether of the 19th Century.
    The luminiferous aether consider that the light is a propagation of waves (an electromagnetic perturbation of the aether).

    In my Quantum Ring Theory the light is not a wave moving in the aether</b.

    Einstein was right in one point: the luminiferous aether of the 19th Century really does not exist.
    But it does not mean that the aether does not exist.

    In 2011 an experiment proved the existence of the aether:

    Light created from vacuum shows empty space a myth
    http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-11-19/science/30418928_1_vacuum-dce-photons

    .

    JR wrote in April 24th, 2014 at 9:51 AM

    Steven,

    Wladimir is referring to something totally different, he just repurposed the name Aether for his universal ‘stuff’, which can cause some confusion. So Aether-Classic (light wave medium) still doesn’t exist, while New-Aether (universal ‘stuff’ of QRT) is an unrelated thing which exists in Wladimiar’s QRT.
    ———————————–

    COMMENT

    Yes, dear Mr. JR,
    and my “stuff” was confirmed by an experiment published in 2011.

    And my “stuff” was plagiarized by the paper published in 2013 by the European Physical Journal:

    The quantum vacuum as the origin of the speed of light
    http://link.springer.com/article/10.1140%2Fepjd%2Fe2013-30578-7#page-1

    In the paper published by the EPJ, the authors propose the same structure for the aether which had been proposed in 2006 in my book Quantum Ring Theory:
    ———————————————————–
    that aether is composed by particles and antiparticles
    ———————————————————–

    So, dear JR,
    there are other scientists sharing my universal “stuff”.

    Regards
    wlad

  901. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in April 23rd, 2014 at 11:39 PM

    Wladimir,

    1) ————————————————
    Step 1: A particle has intrinsic spin.
    Step 2: The spin induces a spinning primary field Sp.
    Step 3: The Sp spin excites the permeabilitons of the aether.
    Step 4: The permeabiliton excitation induces a non-spinning secondary field Sn.

    The connection between step(1) and step(4) is soft (50%, let us say). This is like the spiral formed by a spinning rod placed perpendicularly within a liquid. The curvature of the spiral is greatest near the rod, and least farthest away. (A hard connection (100%) would freeze the Universe as every particle’s intrinsic spin would have its similarly spinning Sn countering others’. And no connection (0%) would make the Universe absurd since there would be no relationship between particle and field.) A soft connection is the result of aether particles being dragged or replaced continually by new similar ones in order to maintain the structure of the field.
    ————————————————–

    COMMENT
    So, such concept of field is acceptable, according to your opinion.

    2) —————————————
    The problem is that…
    …In the case of the 3Li6 nucleus, the deuteron and its Sp rotate about, and within the Sp of, the 2He4. And since Sp induces Sn, the rotation of the first implies the rotation of the second. This NEAR-FIELD movement is no different from that of the electron about the proton within the H atom. The only visual difference is that the Sn of the electron is orbiting the proton while the Sn of the deuteron is WOBBLING about the 3Li6 nucleus. In both cases, a magnetic moment should be induced.
    ——————————————

    COMMENT

    Joe,
    originally, in the book Quantum Ring Theory, I had propoosed that the field Sn rotates, as you claim there is need to be.

    And as originally I supposed that the field Sn rotates, then obviously I faced at that time the same issue raised by you here.
    Therefore, I had to discover why the rotation of Sn does not induce a strong big magnetic moment, and the response for the problem is shown in the figures 4.1 and 4.2 at the page 184 of the book Quantum Ring Theory.

    Let me give a short idea on how works my idea.

    a) I assumed that the density of the aether in the field Sn decreases inversely to the radius growth of the field Sn.

    b) I assumed that in the field Sn there is also a flux n(o). And such flux of gravitons g moves perpendicularly to the spin of the field Sn.

    c) Near to the center of Sn (where the density of the aether is big) the flux n(o) is up. And far away of the center (where the density is very low because it is proportional to 1/R) the flux n(o) is down.

    d) So, we have:
    d.1) Near to the center of Sn = very big density, very short orbit radius, flux n(o)-up
    d.2) Far away the center of Sn = very low density, very long orbit radius, flux n(o)-down

    e) The intensity of the magnetic moment induced depends on the density of the aether

    e.1) Fig. 3.12 of the book Quantum Ring Theory shows that flux n(o)-down induces negative magnetic moment, and flux n(o)-up induce positive magnetic moment.

    e.2 )Therefore the combination of the items d.1 and d.2 induce a total magnetic moment zero for the field Sn.

    However, I have always had an intimate feeling that this kind of field was pretty weird, because:

    A) The electromagnetic field of the particles would have a limit maximum of actuation, with radius R.

    B) This means that one proton and one electron with a distance longer than R would not have attraction. Perhaps this can indeed occur in Nature. But there is other problem, shown in the item C.

    C) The problem becomes worst when we consider the gravity. There is no limit for the gravity

    However, if we have to bring back again such hypothesis of the rotation of the field Sn, the solution for the gravity of the particles is to consider that their gravity field is induced by the principal field Sp only, via the excitation of permeabilitons. The idea, in this case, it is consider that permeabilitons have their spins moving chaotically in the aether, and when they are captured by the flux Sp they align their spin parallel to the spin of the field Sp, and so a gravity field is created. And the gravity field does not rotate

    Perhaps you are right, and we have to bring back the rotation of the field Sn, as it was proposed originally in my book published in 2006.
    In this case, an issue is raised: is there a limit in the electromagnetic field of the particles ?

    regards
    wlad

  902. Peter Forsberg

    Dear Steven,

    You should not play to much attention to what you have been thaugt to be right. Modern physics has had many successes, but there are also many things it fails to explain. Current physics treats distances between objects as voids of emptiness. But if there is nothing between the objects, then there should also be no distance, don’t you think?

    So, there must be something between the objects. We can call it aether, monads or virtual particles. The details of how this space fabric is constructed is what phycisists need to understand.

    Regards

    Peter Forsberg

  903. Andrea Rossi

    Peter Forsberg:
    I agree.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  904. JR

    Steven,

    The early assumption was that because light was a wave, it must be an oscillation in some medium. Aether was the name given to the medium in which the light waves were assumed to propagated. Measurements showed that the speed of the light waves was the same in all directions, implying that the aether was at rest relative to the person doing the measurements. Since this was true no matter where you measured, and the earth’s rotation and movement around the sun should have led to differences when the light was moving towards or away from the aether’s flow, the conclusion was that aether does not exist and that light waves propagate in vacuum.

    Wladimir is referring to something totally different, he just repurposed the name Aether for his universal ‘stuff’, which can cause some confusion. So Aether-Classic (light wave medium) still doesn’t exist, while New-Aether (universal ‘stuff’ of QRT) is an unrelated thing which exists in Wladimiar’s QRT.

  905. Steven N. Karels

    Wladimir and Joe,

    While I am not qualified to join the discussion, can one of you or both address Wladimir’s use of the term aether? I was taught, so long ago now, the this is no aether based on several experiments. Thanks.

  906. Joe

    Wladimir,

    Step 1: A particle has intrinsic spin.
    Step 2: The spin induces a spinning primary field Sp.
    Step 3: The Sp spin excites the permeabilitons of the aether.
    Step 4: The permeabiliton excitation induces a non-spinning secondary field Sn.

    The connection between step(1) and step(4) is soft (50%, let us say). This is like the spiral formed by a spinning rod placed perpendicularly within a liquid. The curvature of the spiral is greatest near the rod, and least farthest away. (A hard connection (100%) would freeze the Universe as every particle’s intrinsic spin would have its similarly spinning Sn countering others’. And no connection (0%) would make the Universe absurd since there would be no relationship between particle and field.) A soft connection is the result of aether particles being dragged or replaced continually by new similar ones in order to maintain the structure of the field.

    The problem is that you claim that electric charge exists in Sn. Since we know empirically that rotation of charge is responsible for inducing magnetic moment, Sn must be able to move (rotate) in order to induce a magnetic moment. In the case of the H atom, the Sn of the electron rotates about the proton. In the case of the 3Li6 nucleus, the deuteron and its Sp rotate about, and within the Sp of, the 2He4. And since Sp induces Sn, the rotation of the first implies the rotation of the second. This NEAR-FIELD movement is no different from that of the electron about the proton within the H atom. The only visual difference is that the Sn of the electron is orbiting the proton while the Sn of the deuteron is WOBBLING about the 3Li6 nucleus. In both cases, a magnetic moment should be induced.

    All the best,
    Joe

  907. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe,
    in my previous example, the four elastic threads ( of length 1m ) attached to the sidewall thickness 5cm wheel and separated by angles of 90º play the role of the connection tying the field Sn to the aether filling the universe

    regards
    wlad

  908. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe,
    in my last post there is an error.

    The Bohr radius is R=10^-11m , and the orbit radius of the deuteron about the 2He4 is about r= 10^-15m.
    Therefore the difference of radii is 10^4m = 10.000 times

    .

    Let me explain with an illustration what happens with the deuteron gyrates about the central 2He4 in the nucleus 3Li6.

    1 – Imagine a wooden wheel with radius R = 10.000cm = 100m , and a hole in the center of the wheel , with radius r = 1cm .
    The thickness of the wheel is 5cm
    This wheel will play the Sn field

    2 – Put the wheel lying on a horizontal floor of a square room with walls of length 102m .

    3 – Put a pin 2mm diameter iron standing in the center of the hole radius r = 1cm .
    This center pin will play the 2He4

    4 – Attach four elastic threads ( of length 1m ) on the sidewall thickness 5cm wheel and separated by angles of 90º

    5 – Tie the four elastic threads in the walls of the room to prevent the wheel from rotating.

    6 – The wheel cannot rotate , but it can move a little, because the elastic can stretch .

    7 – Because of the freedom that the wheel has to travel a bit , the central hole of radius r = 1cm can be rotated around the center pin

    8 – Stick a gum in the side wall of the hole of radius r = 1cm .
    This gum will play the deuteron

    9 – now begin to move the wheel so that the gum rotate around the central pin.

    10 – Note that the wheel does not rotate around the central pin , because the elastic threads do not allow rotation. What revolves around the center pin is the point of the wheel where the gum is stuck.

    I hope this illustration can eliminate your doubt

    regards
    wlad

  909. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in April 23rd, 2014 at 1:57 AM

    Wladimir,

    1. —————————————-
    If the macroscopic laws of magnetic induction are applied at the microscopic level, it would seem impossible for a rendering of mu = 0 for 2He4, 4Be8, 6C12, etc, except if there were no rotation of the nucleons.
    ——————————————–

    yes, and there is no explanation for the reason why all the nuclei have rotation, except those even-even nuclei with Z=N

    Such hypothesis violates the angular momentum conservation. For instance, suppose that a nucleus 8O17, with rotation, captures a neutron and they form the 8O18.
    The angular momentum before the capture must be the same after the capture. So, if the 8O18 stops to rotate, then the total angular momentum is not conserved.

    2. ————————-
    I could understand if Sp and Sn of the deuteron exactly overlapped Sp and Sn of the 2He4, there would be no magnetic induction by the rotation of charge since there would be no orbiting of the 2He4 by the deuteron. But since the deuteron is orbiting the 2He4, even if only within the Sp of the 2He4, the Sn of the deuteron must be moving with the deuteron and hence inducing a magnetic moment.
    ————————————-

    No, Joe,
    you did not understand yet.
    The Sn does ont have rotation. The Sn is an extension of the infinite aether.

    Let me explain by other words:

    a) Forget the field Sp
    b) Suppose a big field Sn with the Bohr radius R= 10^-14m, and a deuteron in the center of the Sn field, having spin.
    c) Consider that the field Sn is induced by the spin of the deuteron
    d) Consider that the field Sn has no rotation, because it is an extention of the aether in the space
    e) Suppose that the deuteron starts to gyrate with a small orbit radius r= 10-15m j, in the center of Sn.
    c) The field Sn will keep its place in the aether. It will not start to move, because a small circular displacement of the deuteron in the center of the field Sn is not able to make the field Sn to change its position in the aether.

    The field Sn is not rigidly connected to the deuteron. The deuteron spin induces the field Sn, however a small displacement of the deuteron in the center of Sn does not cause any change in the field Sn.

    3. —————————–
    To say otherwise is to say that there should be a disconnect between the Sn of the deuteron and its Sp. And that would be illogical since it is Sp that induces Sn. Of course, another possibility is that Sn does not orbit because Sp does not orbit, but then the disconnect would exist between the orbiting deuteron and its non-orbiting Sp – another illogical scenario.
    ——————————-

    They are not rigidly connected.
    The spin of Sp excites the permeabilitons of the aether.
    The permeabilitons excitation induces the field Sn

    So, the excitation of permeabilitons in the nucleus 3Li6 depends on:
    a) The spin of the central 2He4
    b) The spin of the deuteron

    The excitation of permeabilitons in the 3Li6 does not depend on the deuteron motion about the 2He4

    regards
    wlad

  910. eernie1

    Joseph,
    Interesting news release. however I disagree with Chen’s final statement that “For cancer there is no good solution yet”. I think he meant that there is presently no one cure that can be applied to all cancers. In the literature there are many instances where a specific type of cancer has been controlled or eliminated. I think that the final solution will be the development of procedures for each type of malignancies since there are so many variables in the structures of cancer cells. Hopefully his work will lead to the cure of many of these.

  911. Robert Curto

    Dear Dr. Rossi, thank you.
    Robert Curto
    Sidebar to Dr. Joseph Fine:
    I have read a lot about Photodynamic cancer therapy.
    All of it positive.
    MD Anderson in injecting patients with gold nanoparticles, which attach
    to cancer cells only.
    The patient then goes under a Radio Frequency Device, which heats
    and kills the cancer cells.
    It has been tested on pigs.
    They are waiting for FDA approval to begin a Clinical Trail.
    They hope to get the approval in less then a year.

  912. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine, Robert Curto, Eernie1:
    Your discussion is not off topic, because this is the blog of the Journal of Nuclear Physics and, as such, can encompass discussions regarding nuclear physics application to medicine,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  913. Joseph Fine

    Robert Curto, Eernie1:

    As we are briefly off-topic, here is a nanoparticle that can be used to treat cancer! Let there be light! (Photodynamic therapy)

    https://www.uta.edu/news/releases/2014/04/Cancer-nanoparticle.php

    Joseph Fine

  914. Joe

    Wladimir,

    1. If the macroscopic laws of magnetic induction are applied at the microscopic level, it would seem impossible for a rendering of mu = 0 for 2He4, 4Be8, 6C12, etc, except if there were no rotation of the nucleons.

    2. I could understand if Sp and Sn of the deuteron exactly overlapped Sp and Sn of the 2He4, there would be no magnetic induction by the rotation of charge since there would be no orbiting of the 2He4 by the deuteron. But since the deuteron is orbiting the 2He4, even if only within the Sp of the 2He4, the Sn of the deuteron must be moving with the deuteron and hence inducing a magnetic moment. To say otherwise is to say that there should be a disconnect between the Sn of the deuteron and its Sp. And that would be illogical since it is Sp that induces Sn. Of course, another possibility is that Sn does not orbit because Sp does not orbit, but then the disconnect would exist between the orbiting deuteron and its non-orbiting Sp – another illogical scenario.

    All the best,
    Joe

  915. Andy Kumar

    Dear Dr. Rossi,

    Earth’s iron-nickel inner core is very hot. Do you think some LENR reaction may be happening there. Have you thought about setting up your Ecat in a nickel mine at low power density and use it as a giant geothermal energy source, if that can be done safely.

    -Andy Kumar

  916. Andrea Rossi

    Andy Kumar:
    I am not able to answer.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  917. Eryl Besin

    Dear eernie1, first I agree that this is off topic on the JoNP.
    However the readers either:
    Have cancer.
    Worry about getting it.
    Surely have people close to them, who has it or had it.
    It is a dreadful disease.
    Plus many people know when he gets the money, Dr Rossi will
    help with the treatment of children with cancer, big time.

    I agree with the research on DNA is very promising.
    To explain Dr. Matsumura’s SAFE chemo.
    I can only do it as a layman.
    Before chemo, the patient receives an injection that puts a ‘shell’ around
    the good cells, this protects them from the chemo,
    but leaves the cancer cells exposed to the drug.
    They can also give a larger dose, because the normal cells are protected.
    They also have a blood test to determine the amount the patient is receiving.
    The same dose can vary 11 fold, from patient to patient.
    For 50 years Doctors have no idea the dose they are giving.
    Too little is not effective.
    Too much can kill the patient.
    The new blood test is $100.
    Robert Curto

  918. Wladimir Guglinski

    The Successor Theory of the Quantum Mechanics

    Dear Joe,
    I’m going to tell you a little story.
    Little in words… but very long in years… rss

    I discovered the need of two concentric fields for elementary particles in the end of 1993, after the discovery of my new nuclear model. Because after the discovery of the nuclear model I tried to calculate the binding energy of the light nuclei, and I discovered that it was impossible to get them by considering the elementary particles as involved by one field. Then I had the idea of considering two concentic fields, and by this way I succeeded to calculate the binding energy getting values near to the experimental results.

    But in 1994 I read the book Foundations of Physics, by Lindsay and Margenau, where they explain the philosophy of the scientific method, according to which a scientific theory must be developed from the “criterium of simplicity”. According to the criterium, superfluous conjectures must be avoided.
    A theory developed according to the criterium of simplicity is what in Science it is known as a beautiful theory.

    Then at once I realized that my concept of double-field does not fit to the criterium of simplicity, because such criterium requires the consideration of particles having one unique field, as it is considered in the current theories of Physics.

    And so I understood that the physicists would never accept my double-field concept, since it introduces a conjecture defying the criterium of simplicity.

    That’s why, along the years, in my discussions with the physicists I used do not mention my double-field concept, because I was sure that my opposers would claim that my theory was pseudoscientific, since it introduces conjectures not allowed by the criterium of simplicity.

    In short, the physicists would claim that my double-field concept is superfluous and ugly, because the Modern Physics was developed by considering the mono-field criterium, a beautiful theory of field because it is according to the criterium of simplicity, and goods results were obtained from it, and therefore there is no need to consider a ugly superfluous conjecture which defies the criterium of simplicity.

    And now, dear Joe, after 20 years, thanks to you, we arrived to a very interesting conclusion, as follows:
    —————————————————————————————–
    The double-field concept is not superfluous. Actually the double-field concept is indispensable, because it is impossible to explain the zero magnetic moment of even-even nuclei with Z=N from the consideration of the nono-field concept.
    —————————————————————————————–
    In another words:
    the double-field concept is not superfluous because the mono-field concept violates the monopolar nature of the electric charge, and therefore the mono-field concept is unacceptable, and a new concept concept of field is required.

    Therefore, dear Joe, starting from now my double-field concept does not violate the scientific criterium of simplicity, because such criterium must be adopted only when it is viable to consider the most simplest solution. But as the most simplest solution (the mono-field concept) violates the monopolar nature of the electric charge, and therefore the criterium of simplicity cannot be applied as a criterium for the discovery of the structure of the field existing in the Nature for the elementary particles.

    I am very thankfull to you, dear Joe. Because thanks to your contribution, I can be more hopeful in my expectation regarding to the acceptation of my Quantum Ring Theory, because the scientific community needs finally to realize that the double-field concept is indispensable, and the mono-field concept must be replaced.

    More than 10 years ago, some reputable physicists, among them some Nobel Laureated, wrote the book Quo Vadis Quantum Mechanics, promoted by the Center for Frontier Sciences (hosted by the Temple University).
    http://books.google.com.br/books?id=mvZ_1rhGCbgC&pg=PA240&lpg=PA240&dq=successor+of+quantum+mechanics&source=bl&ots=yt5Lq6Koyi&sig=6Z2KUZTkUi7FimZlUEeyOcjSetM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=hP9WU6i4F6ngsAT3noAo&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=successor%20of%20quantum%20mechanics&f=false

    In the book the physicists made conjectures about what sort of theory must be developed, so that to become the successor of Quantum Mechanics, because the theory live together with several unacceptable puzzles, and those theorists have the hope that the puzzles will be eliminated in a future theory, the successor of Quantum Mechanics.

    Then I wrote a letter to Nancy Kolenda, the editor-in-chief of the magazine Frontier Perspectives (published by the Center of Frontier Sciences) telling her that my book Quantum Ring Theory is rival of the book Quo Vadis Quantum Mechanics, because the two books speculate about what sort of new principles must be incorporated in Quantum Mechanics, so that to develop a theory successor of the Quantum Mechanics. And I also tell her that my QRT is the Successor of Quantum Mechanics.

    Of course Nancy Kolenda did not consider seriously what I said. But the facts occuring in the last 5 years are pointing that I was right. It seems Quantum Ring Theory will indeed to become the Successor of Quantum Mechanics.

    Regards
    wlad

  919. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Thank you, very interesting,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  920. eernie1

    Dear Robert Curto,
    A bit off topic but the readers may find this interesting.
    When I was at Loyola the direction for finding cures swung towards manipulating the DNA of the cancer cells. As you know the reason that cancer is so destructive is that something(radiation, chemical contact etc) changed the DNA of normal cells that removed the process which kept the cells from reproducing themselves unchecked. In the cancer cell, this then allowed the cancer to reproduce itself continuously crowding out all the normal cells and leading to the destruction of the mother organ. The thought was that if you could alter the DNA of the cancer cells so that they lost the ability to reproduce themselves you could stop their effects. One method that proved to be effective was to use radiation impinging on the site of the cancer. It was well known that this altered the DNA of cells. However in many cases it caused unwanted side effects but it is one of the most widely use curative procedures in use today. In my opinion the research into the use of specific DNA altering chemicals and their transport to specific cancer sites will be the final solution and that is the direction many research centers are pursuing. If this can be done without destructive side effects the problem would be solved. Some researchers are predicting that this will be accomplished within 5 years.

  921. Joseph Fine

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I saw this approach to DFT (Density Functional Theory) and thought that this technique might help improve performance in future devices.

    Best wishes on Earth Day.

    Joseph Fine

    http://www.nanowerk.com/spotlight/spotid=35280.php

    Apr 22, 2014

    A novel approach to Density Functional Theory

    (Nanowerk Spotlight) In the past decades, the Density Functional Theory (DFT) has been very successful in helping chemists and physicists understand the properties of matter at extremely small scales. Despite this theory being based on some rather strong assumptions – such as, for instance, local density approximations for exchange-correlation effects – it represents an important theoretical tool which is now used on a daily basis.

    For example, researchers have demonstrated through DFT calculations:
    that piezoelectricity can be engineered into non-piezoelectric graphene by selective surface adsorption of atoms on only one side, which breaks inversion symmetry (“Dynamically controlling graphene’s properties with engineered piezoelectricity”); that graphane and fluorographene can be paired together through the C-H···F-C hydrogen bonds (“Employing weak interactions to engineer band structures in graphene”); the identification of the most energetically stable platinum-ruthenium structure for catalysts in fuel cells (“Nanocrystal catalyst transforms impure hydrogen into electricity”).

    The success of DFT relies on the fact that the challenging quantum N-body problem is reduced to a set of N single-body Schrödinger equations which are numerically easier to treat, where the N equations are coupled by a density functional which models the exchange-correlation effects.

    Now, even assuming that we have an exact functional for these effects, some problems still remain in the standard implementation of DFT: 1) the theory is based on the Schrödinger formalism, i.e. complex valued wave-functions which have no counterpart in the real world; and 2) it is difficult to scale these deterministic algorithms (usually based on finite difference and/or finite element methods), i.e. complex quantum systems consisting of a relatively big number of atoms is difficult to simulate even on parallel machines.
    Very recently, exciting results have been achieved by two scientists, Dr. J.M. Sellier and Prof. I. Dimov, at the Institute of Information and Communication Technologies (IICT) of the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences in Sofia. Reporting their findings in Journal of Computational Physics (“A Wigner Monte Carlo approach to density functional theory”), they have been able to use the Wigner formalism of Quantum Mechanics to simulate chemical systems.

    This represents an important result since the researchers’ approach is based on Monte Carlo techniques – a mathematical method which strongly relies on the generation of independent random numbers to solve very complicated integro-differential equations.

    “In our work, we propose a variant of the standard DFT, where the set of coupled single-electron Schrödinger equations in the Kohn-Sham system is substituted by an equivalent set of single-electron Wigner equations, which are solved by the Wigner Monte Carlo method,” Sellier tells Nanowerk. “There are two big advantages using this approach: 1) the theory is based on the Wigner formalism, i.e. on intuitive (quasi) distribution functions which are easy to understand when compared to experimental results; 2) it scales incredibly well being based on Monte Carlo techniques, i.e. it paves the way towards the simulation of very complex chemical and physical systems at a quantum level.”

    This image shows the probability density in a Hydrogen (H2) molecule. In particular it is possible to see how the method predicts correctly the creation of a chemical bond between the two hydrogen atoms. (Image: Dr. Sellier)

    This represents an important result since the researchers’ approach is based on Monte Carlo techniques – a mathematical method which strongly relies on the generation of independent random numbers to solve very complicated integro-differential equations.
    Sellier and Dimov validate this new approach by applying it to the study of three different quantum systems: a lithium atom; a Boron atom; and an hydrogenic molecule in two different configurations (close and far apart nuclei). Furthermore, in the last system, a comparison with the standard DFT is performed.

    If you are interested in digging deeper into this subject, you can find more details along with a list of publications and animations at http://www.nano-archimedes.com.

    Dr. Sellier and Prof. Dimov are very enthusiastic about this new approach, which is being perceived as an important evolution of DFT by the scientific community. It paves the way towards scalable simulations of complex chemical and nanotechnology systems that can now run on relatively small parallel machines.

    By Michael Berger. Copyright © Nanowerk

  922. Wladimir Guglinski

    Dear Joe,

    yesterday I posted a comment saying the following:
    ————————————————————
    But one thing we can be sure: the model of elementary particles composed by TWO concentric fields is indispensable for the explanation of the reason why the even-even nuclei with Z=N have magnetic moment zero.

    And any theory developed from a concept of mono-field for the elementary particles cannot explain why the even-even nuclei with Z=N have magnetic moment zero.

    And therefore the unsatisfactory feature of any model developed from the mono-field concept is pointing to us that there is only one way to solve the puzzle: it is by adopting the double-field concept for elementary particles.

    So, there is no way to solve the puzzle from the models of the Standard Nuclear Physics.
    And any model developed via the concept of mono-field of elementary particles cannot be successful.
    ———————————————————–

    .

    Joe,
    the Quantum Field Theory, QFT, is a mono-field theory.

    Please respond the following questions:

    1- Do you think it is possible to explain the magnetic moment zero of the even-even nuclei with Z=N from the foundations of the mono-field QFT ?

    2- Does QFT violate the monopolar nature of the electric charge ?

    3- In the case your answer will be “YES” for the question 2, do you think QFT can be a correct theory ?

    regards
    wlad

  923. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in April 21st, 2014 at 9:07 PM

    Wladimir,

    If it is possible for the Sn of a nucleon to not move while its Sp is orbiting the 2He4, why does the Sn move and follow the Sp in the case of an electron traveling in a circle and inducing a magnetic field?
    ———————————————

    Joe,
    perhaps you will understand it well by this way:

    1- When the deuteron is alone, its flux n(o) excites the permeabilitons, and they form the secondary field Sn(2H) with positive charge +1.

    2- While in the 2He4 alone, its flux n(o) excites the permeabilitons, and they form the secondary field Sn(4He) with positive charge +2.

    3- When the deuteron perforates the secondary field Sn(4He) of the 2He4 and it is captured by the flux n(o) of the 2He4, the deuteron goes moving about the 2He4, and they form together the secondary field Sn(6Li) of the 3Li as follows:

    3.1- The flux n(o) of the deuteron excites the permeabilitons and so its contribution is a charge +1 for the secondary field of the 3Li6.

    3.2- The flux n(o) of the 2He4 excites the permeabilitons and so its contribution is a charge +2 for the secondary field of the 3Li6.

    Therefore the charge +3 of the 3Li6 is induced by the flux n(o) of the deuteron working together with the flux n(o) of the 2He4, and the motion of the deuteron about the 2He4 has not any contribution.

    regards
    wlad

  924. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in April 21st, 2014 at 9:07 PM

    Wladimir,

    If it is possible for the Sn of a nucleon to not move while its Sp is orbiting the 2He4, why does the Sn move and follow the Sp in the case of an electron traveling in a circle and inducing a magnetic field?
    ———————————————

    Joe,
    imagine a deuteron orbiting a 2He4 within the principal field Sp(6Li) of the nucleus 3Li6.

    The secondary field Sn(6Li) of the 3Li6 is formed by the overlap between the positive secondary field Sn(4He) of the 2He4 and the positive secondary field Sn(2H) of the deuteron.

    The secondary positive field Sn(6Li) of the 3Li6 is very large (it has the radius in order of the Bohr radius 10^-11 meters).
    While the deuteron gyrates about the 2he4 with a orbit radius of 10^-15 meters (10.000 times shorter than the Bohr radius).
    Therefore the rotation of the deuteron about the central 2He4 makes no difference in the positive charge of the 3Li6, produced by the secondary field Sn(6Li).
    In another words: there is only one secondary field Sn(6Li) of the 3Li6, and the deuteron contributes for its positive charge. However the rotation of the deuteron about the central 2He4 does not induce magnetic moment because its secondary field Sn(2H) is diluted in the secondary field of the 3Li6, and therefore the electric positive charge of the deuteron does not gyrate about the 2He4.

    .

    In order to be captured by flux n(o) the 2He4 (so that to form the 3Li6), the deuteron needs to perforate the secondary field of the 2He4, and the 2He4 needs to perforate the secondary field of the deuteron. And their secondary fields overlap.

    But suppose that a deuteron would be moving about a 2He4 without they perforate one the secondary field of the other.
    In this case there would not be overlap of their secondary fields. And so the secondary field of the deuteron would be gyrating about the secondary field of the 2He4, with an orbit with the Bohr radius R= 10^-14m, and the positive charge of the deuteron would induce a magnetic moment (of course such sort of motion does not exist, I used it only as a didactic resource so that to ilustrate how the secondary field works).

    .

    Now consider the electron moving about a proton, in the hydrogen atom. The electron is moving with the Bohr radius R= 10^-14m , and its secondary field Sn(e) goes moving together concentrically with the inner principal field Sp(e).
    So, the secondary field Sn(e) of the electron gyrates with the Bohr radius about the secondary field Sn(p) of the proton, and that’s why the electron induces a magnetic field.

    When a free electron moves in a rectilinear displacement (the center of its helical trajectory describes a rectilinear line), the flux n(o) of the electron goes causing excitation of the permeabilitons P(-) and p(-). The permeabilitons p(-) induce the secondary field Sn(e) of the electron, and it does not gyrate, as already explained. But the secondary field Sn(e) follows the displacement of the electron, leaving back the permeabilitons, magnetons, electricitons, and gravitons which compose its field, and at the same time it goes capturing ahead the motion other permeabilitons, magnetons, electricitons, and gravitons so that to replace those abandoned along the displacement (the phenomenon of substitution frequence, already explained).

    regards
    wlad

  925. Joe

    Wladimir,

    If it is possible for the Sn of a nucleon to not move while its Sp is orbiting the 2He4, why does the Sn move and follow the Sp in the case of an electron traveling in a circle and inducing a magnetic field?

    All the best,
    Joe

  926. Eryl Besin

    Dear eernie1, you were very fortunate to be cured of colon cancer in 1982.
    I find it interesting that you were involved with Loyola Medical Center.
    It is among the top places in the Country.

    There are many places looking for a better treatment for cancer.
    Mankind has been looking for 3,000 years.
    I am aware of three places:
    Dr. Matsumura
    MD Anderson
    CLOP Children’s Hospital Of Philadelphia
    Dr. Matsumura developed SAFE chemo, it is chemo without any side effects
    As you are aware chemo harms the immune system.
    It is in Clinical Trial at two locations.
    IF you want to email me, I may be able to go into more detail.
    In any event, I find you a fascinating person and am glad to have met you
    here on the JoNP.
    Robert Curto

  927. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    You may find this story interesting. http://www.gereports.com/post/82402621133/this-jet-engine-cannot-fly-but-it-can-help-save-lives

    It discusses ‘aeroderivative’ jet engines produced by GE which has been used in places like the Texas Medical Center to provide electricity, heat and cooling to the Texas Medical Center in Houston.

    Is this the kind of application you are conducting R&D on at the moment?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  928. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Yes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  929. Wladimir Guglinski

    On the puzzle why even-even nuclei with Z=N have magnetic moment zero

    Dear Joe,

    I think the puzzle of the zero magnetic moment for the even-even nuclei with Z=N must be solved by eliminating the presence of electricitons within the principal field Sp of proton and electron.

    The original interaction-laws of the particles of the aether I had proposed in my comment of March 9th, 2014 at 7:50 AM , (press the button number 2 of the Comments to Physics of rotating and expanding black hole universe).

    So, we have to change some of the interaction-laws between the particles of the aether, and to change a little the structure of the aether, as follows:

    First change: adoption of another kind of magneton:
    —————————————————————————————-
    There are magnetons m(+) and m(-) , and magnetons M(+) and M(-)
    —————————————————————————————-

    .

    Laws of interaction forming the fields of the proton:

    Law 1- The body-ring of proton gyrates and induces the flux n(o) formed by gravitons g(+) with the speed c of light.

    Law 2- The flux n(o) gyrates and induces two fields formed by permeabilitons p(+) and P(+).

    .

    Second change:it occurs in the interactions due to permeabilitons p(+) and P(-) with other particles:

    Law 3- The field formed by P(+) captures magnetons M(+). The magnetons M(+) interact with the gravitons G(+), in order that a field composed by magnetons M(+) and gravitons G(+) is formed about the proton. This is the principal field of the proton, named Sp(p).
    The field Sp(p) gyrates together with the rotation of the flux n(o).

    Law 3.1- Permeabilitons P(+) actuate in shorter distance than permeabilitons p(+).
    For this reason the principal field Sp(p) has a very short radius, while the secondary field Sn(p) has a very large radius.

    Law 3.2- The magnetons M(+) have repulsion with the magnetons m(+). In order that the formation of the field composed by magnetons M(+) in the principal field Sp(p) of the proton avoid the prensence of magnetons m(+), and so the permeabilitons p(+) in the principal field Sp(p) of the proton cannot capture magnetons m(+). As the electricitons e(+) interact with magnetons m(+), (see Law 4), but the magnetons m(+) are not allowed in the field Sp(p), then the principal field Sp(p) of the proton is free of electric properties.

    Law 3.3- The magnetons “M” do not interact with the electricitons “e”.

    Therefore an electric charge, as for instance of a deuteron, gyrating within the principal field Sp(p) of the lithium nucleus 3Li6 will not induce a magnetic moment (due to the monopolar nature of the electric charge), because:

    a) There are no electricitons in the principal field Sp(6Li) of the nucleus 3Li6

    b) The charge of the deuteron is situated in the secondary field Sn(6Li) of the nucleus 3Li6. As the secondary field does not gyrate, it means that the charge of the deuteron will not induce magnetic moment (due to the monopolar nature of the electric charge). Pay attention that, in spite of the deuteron gyrates about the central 2He4 in the nucleus 3Li6, however the electric charge of the deuteron does not gyrate about the central 2He4, because the secondary field (responsible for the electric charge of the deuteron is outer of the principal field) and it does not gyrate about the central 2He4. Therefore the electric charge of the deuteron cannot induce a magnetic moment due to its rotation about the central 2He4, because its positive charge (produced by the secondary field of the deuteron) do not move about the 2He4.

    Then we realize that the monopolar nature of the electric charge does not work when a positive charge as the deuteron is captured by the flux n(o) of the central 2He4 in any nucleus, ( no matter if it is even-even with Z=N, or not ).

    Law 4- The field formed by p(+) captures gravitons g(+). The gravitions g(+) capture magnetons m(+). And the magnetons m(+) capture electricitons e(+). Therefore a gravito-magnetic-electric field is formed. This field is the outer secondary field Sn(p) of the proton, and it is concentric with the inner principal field Sp(p). This secondary field Sn(p) does not gyrate, because it is an extension of the aether around the principal field Sp(p) of the proton, meaning that such secondary field is a portion of the aether surrounding the proton, a field composed by p(+) , m(+), e(+), g(+).

    Law 5- In the secondary field Sn(p), the interaction g(+)-g(+) decreases slowly with the growth of the radius of the secondary field, while the interaction g(+)-m(+) decreases fast.
    That’s why the electromagnetic field actuates in short distances. Unlike, the gravitational field actuates in long distances.

    Law 6- There is repulsion between electricitons “e” and gravitons “G”.
    Therefore the electron does not falls down within the proton when they interact, because:

    a) the electricitons e(+) of the proton’s outer secondary field Sn(p) have repulsion with the gravitons G(-) of the inner principal field Sp(e) of the electron.

    b) the electricitons e(-) of the electron’s outer secondary field Sn(e) have repulsion with the gravitons G(+) of the inner principal field Sp(p) of the proton.

    Law 7- The magnitude of the interaction between electricitons “e” and gravitons “G” depends on the relative speed between them.

    The relative motion between electricitons “e” and gravitons “G” in the hydrogen atom depends on two relative motions:

    a) The rotation of the electron about the proton (interaction between their secondary and principal fields).

    b) The spin of the electron and the spin of the proton (the rotation of the gravitons G(+) due to spin of the flux n(o) of the proton interacts with the secondary field of the electron, and vice-versa ).
    Due to the fast speed of interaction “e-G” , it has the same magnitude of the electromagnetic interactions.

    The experiments show that the strong nuclear force in the scattering proton-proton increases with the growth of the relative speed between the two prótons. So, as the electricitons e(+) of one of the prótons interact with the gravitons G(+) of the other proton (and vice-versa), the strong nuclear force can be considered as an interaction “e-G” which depends on the speed of the interaction.

    The same happens in the interaction proton-neutron. The experiments showed that when the proton and the neutron have parallel spins, the interaction is 60% stronger than when they have antiparallel spins. This occurs because in the case of parallel spins the velocity of the interaction “e-G” is faster than the spin is antiparallel. The influence of the spin in the interaction proton-neutron is explained in the page 207 of the book Quantum Ring Theory.

    Law 8- While the interaction between gravitons “g” is 10^40 times weaker thant the electromagnetic interaction, the interaction “e-G” gets the same magnitude of the electrogmanetic interactions, thanks to the contribution of the relative speed between the electricitons “e” and gravitons “G”.

    .

    Dear Joe,
    as you see, we have to improve the model of the aether structure, in order to eliminate the inconsistences.

    But one thing we can be sure: the model of elementary particles composed by TWO concentric fields is indispensable for the explanation of the reason why the even-even nuclei with Z=N have magnetic moment zero.

    And any theory developed from a concept of mono-field for the elementary particles cannot explain why the even-even nuclei with Z=N have magnetic moment zero.

    And therefore the unsatisfactory feature of any model developed from the mono-field concept is pointing to us that there is only one way to solve the puzzle: it is by adopting the double-field concept for elementary particles.

    So, there is no way to solve the puzzle from the models of the Standard Nuclear Physics.
    And any model developed via the concept of mono-field of elementary particles cannot be successful.

    Regards
    Wlad

  930. eernie1

    Dear Robert Curto,
    I am very interested in cancer research for two reasons. The most important is the fact that I was cured of colon cancer in 1982, and was diagnosed recently as a possible prostate cancer candidate. At my age(84)signs of prostate cancer is found in most males. The second reason is that I was involved with cancer research at the Loyola Medical Center in the seventies which consisted mainly of injecting promising drugs into specially prepared animals(mostly mice which had specific cancers implanted). When the cancers showed signs of remission they were released for clinical testing in human subjects immediately. Since the patients had short life expectancies, side effects were not considered important. Today if you search the literature, you will find a number of companies who claim possible curative drugs(Northwest Bio(NWBO)etc). Dr Matsamura was one individual that I followed. Hopefully one of the sources will succeed and the dreadful disease overcome.

  931. Greg Leonard

    Dear AR,
    You should not apologise.
    The English language is constantly evolving, and spelling is just such an example: you may find in 100 years that everyone spells it indipendent.
    When I pronounce the word, it comes out as an ‘i’ – and there is absolutely no confusion which ever way it is spelled.

    A bit of a philosophical question: will spell checkers halt the evolution of language?
    Greg

  932. Andrea Rossi

    Greg Leonard:
    A bit of philosophical answer: maybe you need a dialectic evolution (synthesis) made by the intersubjective confrontation between evolutionists ( thesis) and standards defendants ( antithesis), where the “maybe” is a socratic derivative.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  933. Wladimir Guglinski

    Errata:
    in my last post, instead of:

    This explains why the electron does falls down within the proton

    the correct is:

    This explains why the electron does NOT falls down within the proton.

  934. Wladimir Guglinski

    Dear Joe
    it seems that to consider that the field Sp and the field Sn have both them electric nature introduce some philosophical inconsistence in the double-concentri-field concept.

    So, perhaps the best way is to consider the following:

    1- The principal field Sp(p) of the proton is formed by gravitons g(+), which induce the electric secondary positive field Sn(p)

    2- The principal field Sp(e) of the electron is formed by gravitons g(-), which induce the electric secondary negative field Sn(e).

    3- The field Sp(p) of the proton attracts gravitons G(+), and the field Sp(e) of the electron attracts gravitons G(-).

    4- There is repulsion betweeen gravitons G(+) and G(-)

    5- Therefore, the secondary fiels Sn(p) of the proton and the secondary field Sn(e) of the electron have electric attraction, which the principal fields Sp(p)and Sp(e) have gravitational repulsion. This explains why the electron does falls down within the proton.

    6- However a puzzle appears: we have to consider that the repulsion between the gravitons G(+) and G(-) has the same magnitude of the electromagnetic interaction. So, in spite of the interaction between gravitons g(+) and g(-) is 10^40 times weaker than the electromagnetism, the interaction between gravitons G(+) and G(-) has the same magnitude of the electromagnetism.

    So, such puzzle needs to be solved

    regards
    wlad

  935. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in April 20th, 2014 at 11:38 PM

    Wladimir,

    Your idea of “blindage” can not work. The reason for this is that, although we say that a moving electric charge creates a magnetic field, it is really a changing electric FIELD that induces a magnetic field. If the space around a proton were rendered neutral by a neutron orbiting the proton, no electric field about the proton would be possible. And subsequently no magnetic field would be possible either. Although this would give you what you want (an induced magnetic moment of zero by the proton’s charge), the reality is that we DO sense an electric field about the deuteron related to the proton’s charge. (In fact, that is how we know that a deuteron even has an electric charge.) And with an orbiting electric field, we should get an induced magnetic field and hence a NON-null magnetic moment by the deuteron’s charge orbiting the central 2He4.
    ————————————————————

    Dear Joe,
    if you were right, then independently of any theoretical nuclear model would be IMPOSSIBLE to explain the magnetic moment zero of the even-even nuclei with Z=N.

    In another words: if you were right, it would be IMPOSSIBLE to exist even-even nuclei with Z=N having zero magnetic moment in the Nature.

    Again, you are thinking classically.

    The proton has a negative principal field Sp(p), and a positive secondary field Sn(p)

    The electron has a positive principal field Sp(e), and a negative secondary field Sn(e).

    In spite of there is attraction proton-electron, the electron does not follow within the proton because when their secondary fields overlap, the secondary fiel Sn(e) of the electron has repulsion with the principal field Sp(p) of the proton.

    Let us see what happens with a deuteron is captured by a nucleus 2He4?

    1- It has a principal field Sp with charge zero, and a secondary field Sn with charge zero

    2- The deuteron has a principal field Sp with negative charge, and a secondary field Sn with positive charge.

    3- In order to be captured by the 2he4, the secondary field Sn of the deuteron must be perfurated.

    4- So, when the deuteron is captured, its secondary field Sn involves the deuteron and the 2He4. The charge of such secondary field Sn of the deuteron is detected in the experiments. This is what we DO sense an electric field about the deuteron related to the proton’s charge

    5- However, the deuteron is situated within the principal field Sp of the 2He4.

    6- The spin of the principal field Sp of the deuteron induces its secondary positive secondary field Sn, However the rotation of the proton about the central 2He4 does not induce a magnetic field, because the charge of the proton is actually situated outside in the secondary field.

    7- The proton has a residual small charge within the principal field of the 2He4. But its rotation do not induce a magnetic field, because the neutron of the deuteron gyrates about the proton, avoiding the interaction between the proton and the particles of the aether ahead the motion.

    Dear Joe,
    this idea of two concentric fields Sp and Sn of the elementary particles is the unique mechanism able to explain why the even-even nuclei with Z=N have magnetic moment zero.
    Without considering it, it’s IMPOSSIBLE to explain why those nuclei have magnetic moment zero.

    Therefore, even if there is some philosophical inconsistence in my model of field composed by principal and secondary fields, then we have to eliminate the inconsistence, by adopting new assumptions able to eliminate all the contradictions.

    This is the unique way: the idea of double-concentric-fields.
    Because it is impossible to explain why the even-even nuclei with Z=N have magnetic moment zero by considering the classical concept of mono-field adopted in the Standard Nuclear Physics

    Only the concept of double-concentric fields can solve the puzzle.

    regards
    wlad

  936. Eryl Besin

    eernie1, yes I am referring to Dr. Ken Matsumura
    During the past 6 years, we have exchanged 963
    emails.
    As you may suspect, I am a big Fan.
    If you or someone else is interested in his work,
    or cancer research you may email me.
    bobbycurto@webtv.net
    I may be able to update you.
    Robert Curto

  937. Joe

    Wladimir,

    Your idea of “blindage” can not work. The reason for this is that, although we say that a moving electric charge creates a magnetic field, it is really a changing electric FIELD that induces a magnetic field. If the space around a proton were rendered neutral by a neutron orbiting the proton, no electric field about the proton would be possible. And subsequently no magnetic field would be possible either. Although this would give you what you want (an induced magnetic moment of zero by the proton’s charge), the reality is that we DO sense an electric field about the deuteron related to the proton’s charge. (In fact, that is how we know that a deuteron even has an electric charge.) And with an orbiting electric field, we should get an induced magnetic field and hence a NON-null magnetic moment by the deuteron’s charge orbiting the central 2He4.

    All the best,
    Joe

  938. Italo R.

    A nice joke on e-catworld.com:

    “…Timar • 17 hours ago
    I suggest that when the report has finally come out, and it is positive as to be expected, we shall officially change the spelling of the word “independent” to “indipendent” in honour of Andrea Rossi :-) …”

  939. Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.:
    You are totally right, and I am an ignorant: I always wrote “indipendent”, but your comment made me check the dictionary: the Italian “indipendente”, which I translated always as “indipendent”, has instead to be translated “independent”. I learnt it right now, sorry for this error that I repeated again and again…therefore now I have to repeat, correctly, with the help of Orsobubu, who reminds to me that:” the results of the third independent party test can be positive, but also negative”.
    Thank you Timar, God bless you.
    A.R.

  940. orsobubu

    Wlad, in the same post it seems his group has something original to publish

    >Neanderthal jonnyb • 2 days ago

    We are working in one direction in our theoretical proof. You may or may not be aware that this is a multi body problem. I can not speak for rossi in his upcomingTheoretical proof. But it does seem plausibe that he is going in the realms of the Quantum ring theory.Which I support strongly. Yes Chubbs mechanism is only half the story. This is not a small issue but moreso a unification mechanism in our intinsic laws. Our Theory brings a concept of a term/s that lie in in the complex frequency domain it requires a beautiful term that is a modular function already discovered by an indian mathematician. Any Mathematical physicist can verify our publications for its sincerity when it is released .The dragon has a beautiful side.

  941. Wladimir Guglinski

    Dear Joe,

    in 1993 I started to read the book Quantum Physics by Eisberg and Resnick.

    When I inspected the explanation on how the magnetic moment of the deuteron is calculated theoretically, it seemed to me very strange.

    In the book Eisberg and Resnick mention the explanation also mentioned in the Wikipedia: because the deuteron is 96% of the time in the state L= 0, and 4% of the time in the state L= 2, the theoretical calculation shows that the combination of the two states reproduce the magnetic moment +0,857 of the deuteron measured in experiments.

    However, this explanation is very strange, because if it was true, then the experiments would have to detect the following:

    1- In 96% of the measurements, the experiment would have to get μ = +0,879

    2- In 4% of the measurements, the experiments would have to get μ = +0,310

    I never understood that method of calculation.

    So, we realize that the nuclear theorists, when they cannot get theoretically some value measured in the experiments, they make use of strange methods which make no sense from the physical viewpoint, and they compensate the missing of logic by using sophisticated mathematical assumptions, which mask the nonsense of the method of calculation.

    Of course, from some adequate assumptions, it is possible from this method of calculation getting any result they wish.

    And when from their calculations they do not succeed to reproduce the experimental values, they use this strategy, which is nothing more than a desperate way for explaining the nuclear phenomena, so that to fit their theories to the experimental findings.

    regards
    wlad

  942. Wladimir Guglinski

    Dear Joe,
    in April 15th, 2014 at 5:37 PM I wrote a reply to you, saying:
    ———————————–
    In the even-even nuclei with Z=N as 4Be8, 6C12, 8O16, etc, all they are formed by deuterons captured by the central 2He4.

    Suppose that in each one of all those deuterons, the neutron of that deuteron gyrates about the proton.
    As the neutron has charge zero, it is possible the neutron creates a neutral blindage (armour) about the proton, and such blindage avoid the interaction of the proton’s charge with the particles of the aether.

    By this way, all the positive charges of the deuterons in the nuclei 4Be8, 6C12, 8O16, etc do not induce magnetic moment due to the rotation of the nucleus, because the blindage of the neutron do not allow them to interact with the aether.

    The same can happens in the case of the nucleus 2He4.
    ———————————————————-

    Joe,
    there is evidence corroborating such conjecture that the neutron gyrates about the proton in the structure of the deuteron, as I explain ahead.

    1- Magnetic moment of the proton is μ= +2,793
    2- Magnetic moment of the neutron is μ= -1,913
    3- Difference: . . . . . . . . . . ∆μ= +0,880

    Therefore, if the deuteron would have no rotation, and the neutron would not be moving about the proton, the magnetic moment of the deuteron would have to be μ= +0,880.

    In Wikipedia the calculation of the deuteron magnetic moment give:
    —————————————————
    For the s = 1, l = 0 state (j = 1), we obtain

    μ = {1\2}({g^{(s)}}_p + {g^{(s)}}_n) = 0.879

    For the s = 1, l = 2 state (j = 1), we obtain

    μ = -{1\4}({g^{(s)}}_p + {g^{(s)}}_n) + {3\ 4} = 0.310
    ——————————————-
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuterium

    .

    As the calculation by considering the Standard Nuclear Physics do not give the experimental result, they consider that the magnetic moment of the deuteron is a combination of the stares.
    In Wikipedia they say:

    The measured value of the deuterium magnetic dipole moment, is 0.857 µN. This suggests that the state of the deuterium is indeed only approximately s = 1, l = 0 state, and is actually a linear combination of (mostly) this state with s = 1, l = 2 state.

    .

    Now let us consider that the conjecture supposing that the neutron gyrates about the proton in the sctruture of the deuteron.

    As we have seen, if the deuteron would have no rotation, and the neutron would not be gyrating about the proton, the magnetic moment of the deuteron would be:
    μ= +0,880

    But as the deuteron has rotation, then the positive μ= +0,880 induces an additional positive ∆μ. Suppose that ∆μ = +0,02

    Therefore, if the neutron had no rotation about the proton, the magnetic moment of the deuteron, by considering the rotation of the deuteron, would be:

    μ = +0,880 +0,02 = +0,900

    But as the rotation of μ= +0,880 induces ∆μ = +0,02, then the neutron moving about the proton with magnetic moment μ= -1,913 will induce in the structure of the deuteron:

    ∆μ = -0,02x(1,913/0,88) = -0,043

    And therefore the magnetic moment of the deuteron considering its rotation and the neutron gyrating about the proton is:

    μ = +0,88 + 0,02 – 0,043 = +0,857, which is the experimental value of the magnetic moment of the deuteron.

    So, we dont need to consider the magnetic moment of the deuteron as a combination of two states, as considered in the Standard Nuclear Physics (which is a very strange hypothesis).

    And so we realize that my conjecture of the neutron gyrating about the proton in the deuteron has experimental corroboration.

    regards
    wlad

  943. Wladimir Guglinski

    orsobubu wrote in April 19th, 2014 at 1:58 PM

    Wlad, did you see here

    http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/04/17/lenr-a-dragon-with-many-tails/

    and here

    http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/04/15/e-cat-report-watch-thread/

    they are posting about scientists adopting your QRT in their researches on LENR theorization
    ————————————————

    COMMENT

    Dear Orsobubu
    no, I had not seen it.

    Thanks for having pointed it to me.

    In the first link Mr. Neanderthal said:

    ——————————————–
    Neanderthal georgehants • a day ago

    I appreciate your response. In response to your question. Observables do give us an indication of how we try to make sense of our world. But it depend on who your asks. And how we interpret them. As it stands our Nuclear understanding in the quantum realm is incomplete. However QRT seems to cast a positive light and explains anomalies that can not be answer with our existing tool kits .
    ——————————————

    .

    And in the second link the Admyin of the E-CAt World said:

    ——————————————
    Today Neanderthal wrote this comment in another thread:

    I work for one of the most prestigious Scientific Institutes in the UK.

    We have been keeping a very close eye on this particular development. We know that the Lenr phenomena is real — we have studied literature in their abundance and have concluded this new science is a dragon with many tails. Let’s say that the general attitudes and direction among our colleagues have more weight than mere whispers in the refreshment rooms.
    ——————————————

    So, dear Mr. Orsobubu,
    it means that Mr. Neanderthal is a serious scientist, he knows what he is saying, and he is not alone. He has colleagues sharing his opinion.

    I’m glad in seeing that scientists are finally realizing that my QRT is able to explain the nuclear puzzles impossible to be explained by the Standard Nuclear Physics.

    regards
    wlad

  944. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Do you have a commitment from the authors and reviewers that the third party report will be published, regardless of the results?

    In other words, can we be assured that the report will not be ‘buried’ and never see the light of day?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  945. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    It is absolutely sure that the report will be published, whatever the results, positive or negative as they might be. This is the imposition given to us from the Third Indipendent Party Professors as a condition to accept to make the test. They demanded that they will publish the results inconditionally, even if the results will be negative. What said above is granted.
    What follows is an opinion of mine, that could be wrong: the report should be published by the end of June. My opinion is based upon the fact that yesterday I have talked with two of the Commettee members and they said that possibly the publication could be made by the end of June. I did not get any anticipation regarding the calculation of the efficiency, while they repeated to me that to analyse millions of data takes time.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  946. orsobubu

    Wlad, did you see here

    http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/04/17/lenr-a-dragon-with-many-tails/

    and here

    http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/04/15/e-cat-report-watch-thread/

    they are posting about scientists adopting your QRT in their researches on LENR theorization

  947. Wladimir Guglinski

    Andreas Moraitis wrote in April 18th, 2014 at 2:34 AM
    Dear Wladimir,

    I think that Andrea Rossi meant that the “standard” is defined by nature, not by physics. Physicists can try to decode that standard, but in no way they can define it themselves. I agree, however, that this epistemological foundation is sometimes misunderstood.
    ———————————-

    COMMENT

    No, it is not what Rossi meant.

    There is a nuclear structure existing in the Nature.

    From the nuclear properties detected in experiments, the physicists tried along the 20th Century to discover what is the nuclear structure existing in the Nature.

    From such procedure, some nuclear laws were stabilished, and this theory is known as the Standard Nuclear Physics.

    Recent experiments published between 2009 and 2013 show that light nuclei do not follow many of the nuclear laws addopted in the Standard Nuclear Physics.

    And therefore the nuclear structure existing in the Nature does not work with the nuclear laws addopted in the Standard Nuclear Physics.

    In another words: the nuclear models addopted in the Standard Nuclear Physics are different of the nuclear model existing in the Nature.

    regards
    wlad

  948. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Since the E-Cat operation is insensitive to gravity, can we conclude that during normal operation there are no liquids, such as lithium (melting point 180.5C, boiling point 1,330C), within the reactor?

  949. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N.Karels:
    I cannot give this information.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  950. Robert Curto

    Dear eernie1, I forgot to add.
    Of course it would be great for E-Cat to get the safety certification for the domestic E-Cats.
    Robert Curto

  951. eernie1

    Dear Robert Curto,
    Are you referring to Dr Ken Matsumura? He claims to be able to deliver side effect free chemo treatment which cured many patients. If you read his statements on his web site,he states that he received approval to begin clinical testing of his method in four days after submission of his proposal. Would you say it was close to immediate? He also claims that main stream medical institutions are trying to disrupt his efforts.

  952. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Can your eCat units work in any alignment relative to gravity? Specifically, we see photos of a horizontal eCat functioning. Will it work equally as well in the vertical orientation?

  953. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    The E-Cat’s operation is not affected from gravity. Horizontal orientation is just simpler to set up.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  954. Robert Curto

    Dr.Rossi, this is a copy of an email, I sent to my friends:

    Dr. Andrea Rossi invented the E-Cat.
    It will provide inexpensive heat and electricity, with zero emissions and zero
    waste.
    No radioactive rods that take 300,000 years to decay.

    Dr. Rossi has a website where readers can post.
    Well this one person posted how a drug is released IMMEDIATELY.
    Well I could not let that stand, so I sent the enclosed email to Dr. Rossi.
    He asked me to post it on his website, JoNP.
    Journal of Nuclear Physics.

    I don’t which is going to come first:
    Dr. Rossi’s success in Physics, or
    Dr. Matsumura’s Nobel in Medicine.
    And both of them are my email buddies.
    Am I lucky or what.
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA

  955. eernie1

    Dear Robert Curto,
    In the past some drugs bypassed much of the standard testing procedure you outlined. Especially in those cases where the drugs were the last resort for a patient. Despite all the precautions that are taken most drugs carry side effects that are known which do not keep them from use. In fact many drugs dealing with cancer were released before complete testing on the premise that the side effects were more acceptable than the death of the patient. The years of testing if the drugs were not released early would have resulted in many lost lives. How many lives can be saved if the Rossi devices can be approved for use as soon as possible. HIV drugs also were released early.

  956. Andrea Rossi

    TO THE READERS OF THE JOURNAL OF NUCLEAR PHYSICS:
    TODAY HAS BEEN PUBLISHED THE NEW PAPER ” A BRIEF REPORT ON HUBBLE VOLUME, MOLAR ELECTRON MASS AND THE FOUR COSMOLOGICAL INTERACTIONS”, BY PROF. S. LAKSMINARAYANA (INDIA) AND PROF. U.V.S. SESHAVATHARAM (INDIA).
    JoNP’s B.o.A.

  957. Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi, Fernie 1 wrote:
    “In Pharmaceutical testing procedures a drug that shows positive results in mitigating physical problems is IMMEDIATELY released for patient use.
    It does not work that way.

    First the Drug Company experiments with many drugs, for God knows how long.
    When they find one that shows promise in the Lab, they try it on animals, then they apply to the FDA to do Clinical Trials.
    Clinical trail One is on a few patients for safety.
    Then they do Clinical Trail Two on a larger group, maybe a hundred, for safety, side effects, and effectiveness.
    Then they do Clinical Trial Three which involves thousands of patients, at maybe 6 Centers.
    If it shows some positive results, maybe 30 or 40% they summit the data to the FDA.
    The FDA studies for maybe a year or so, then they decide if they will approve it.

    This takes more then 5 years, and cost a few hundred million dollars, sometimes more then a half a billion dollars.
    This does not mean the drug has no side effects.
    Ask someone who has had chemo for cancer.
    The side effects effects are devastating.

    I am a layman, who happens to be interested in cancer research.
    I have exchanged over 5,000 emails with Doctors doing cancer research.
    They have become my friends.
    One is the Director of the Medicor Cancer Centre in Toronto, Canada.
    One was on the cover of Time.
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA

  958. Andrea Rossi

    Robert Curto:
    Thank you for your precisation.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  959. Frederic Maillard

    Dear Andrea,

    1) Correct me if I am wrong but it seems that only a handful of 1 MW E-Cats have been sold so far. Why so few as they have been certified by SGS for quite some time (Sept 2012) ?

    2) Any idea of when anyone of these clients will accept to publicize this acquisition ?

    Many thanks for your reply,
    Best regards
    Frederic

  960. Andrea Rossi

    Frederic Maillard:
    I am not involved in commercial issues.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  961. Gary Cleghorn

    Dear Andrea, this article on phys.org might be of great interest to you and your R&D team.

    Researchers find tin selenide shows promise for efficiently converting waste heat into electrical energy

    http://phys.org/news/2014-04-tin-selenide-efficiently-electrical-energy.html

    Regards, Gary.

  962. Andrea Rossi

    Gary Cleghorn:
    Thank you, interesting.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  963. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    A couple questions and thoughts.

    1) If you increase the temperature of a hot cat, lets say from 500C to 1000C, to what extent does the input power have to increase? You have told us before that the output increases with temperature. I’m thinking that the extra input should be less than the additional resulting output.

    2) Indoor agriculture is a quickly growing industry. In a recent article I read, the biggest challenge and cost associated with indoor agriculture in northern areas of the United States is producing enough heat to keep the facility warm. Also, whay prohibits these companies from designing multiple story farms is the energy cost of moving people, equipment, and product up and down. I think the E-Cat would be capable of providing all the heat and electricity needed for this industry.

  964. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    1- I cannot give this kind of data before the publication of the report by the Third Indipendent Party.
    2- Very interesting. Thank you for the information.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  965. Andreas Moraitis

    Dear Wladimir,

    I think that Andrea Rossi meant that the “standard” is defined by nature, not by physics. Physicists can try to decode that standard, but in no way they can define it themselves. I agree, however, that this epistemological foundation is sometimes misunderstood.

    Best regards,
    Andreas

  966. Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in April 17th, 2014 at 7:47 AM

    Wladimir Guglinski:

    1) —————————
    My friend Prof. Sergio Focardi used to say: ” They sustain that known Physics are incompatible with LENR just because they do not study enough the so called known Physics”.
    The so called Rossi effect has nothing that cannot be explained by means of the well known Physics.
    ——————————

    COMMENT

    Dear Andrea
    as you know, LENR encompasses a wide range of experiences and each one of them requires a different theory to explain the experimental results.

    And some of the experiments cannot be explained by considering the foundations of the Standard Nuclear Physics.

    For instance, in Pamela Mosier-Boss experiment neutrons are emitted with energy of about 10MeV, while from the Standard Nuclear Physics only neutrons with 2MeV could be emitted.
    From Standard Nuclear Physics there is no way to explain the 8MeV excess energy.
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090323110450.htm

    Perhaps the Rossi efect can be explained via the known Physics, as claimed by your friend Prof. Focardi.
    However, there is need to verify his claim.
    Besides, even if Prof. Focari is right and Rossi effect can indeed explained via the known Physics, however it does not means that other LENR experiments can be explained either.

    2) —————————
    About “Standard Nuclear Physics”: this definition is an oxymoron.
    ——————————

    COMMENT

    Absolutely not.
    There are some principles of the Standard Nuclear Physics which are perfectly defined, with no any contradictory sense.
    For instance, in the Standard Nuclear Physics it is considered that protons and neutrons are bound within the nuclei via the strong nuclear force.

    It is a well defined proposal. There is not any contradictory sense in it.

    And the experiment which detected the halo neutron in the 4Be11 defy such well stablished principle of the Standard Nuclear Physics, because the strong force actuates in the maximum distance of 3fm, while the neutron halo has a distance of 7fm from the core of the 4Be11.
    http://www.uni-mainz.de/eng/13031.php

    regards
    wlad

  967. Gherardo

    Ok! The time has come…
    Happy Easter to Dott.Rossi and all readers.

    Gherardo

  968. Andrea Rossi

    Gherardo:
    Thank you, Happy Easter to you!
    A.R.

  969. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    …and both can be turned into energy!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  970. Alessandro Coppi

    Hi Andrea, this is the simple question that all of us are waiting for the answer: in your opinion how much time is far the end of the 3P test? in which manner you would define better such time lapse: days, weeks, months? could we find a surprise in the egg?

    Happy Easter

    Alessandro Coppi

  971. Andrea Rossi

    Alessandro Coppi:
    I can give you my opinion, since this issue does not depend on me, absolutely. My opinion is that the publication will be made within June, but this is an opinion. I cannot give any information about the timing of the different phases of the Professors’ work ( reactor test phase, calculation phase, report writing phase, reviewing phase, publication).
    Happy Easter to you,
    A.R.

  972. Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi,

    Fermions can be positive (protons) or negative (electrons) just like the third independent party results. ;)

    Joseph Fine

  973. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    As Steven Karels mentions, the amount of input power required to run an E-Cat is a significant issue when looking at the economic viability of the E-Cat compared to other energy technologies.

    I am wondering:

    1. Have you been able to achieve satisfactory E-Cat performance with natural gas as an input power source?

    2. Have you found any new ways (since discovering the cat and mouse configuration)to maintain optimum E-Cat output performance while reducing the amount of input energy?

    3. Is it possible to control the E-Cat using methods other than applying heat?

    4. If yes (question 3), are you working on developing those systems?

    Thank you very much!

    Frank Acland

  974. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    You are asking for specific answers to issues that are object of R&D. The results of the R&D process that our team is making can be positive, but also negative, so it would be trivial, from my side, to give now specific answers to your intelligent questions.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  975. Wladimir Guglinski

    Steven N. Karels wrote in April 16th, 2014 at 12:17 PM

    Wladimir,

    While LENR technology looks promising, nuclear is present technology. Its ugly parts are known. I would contend we don’t know yet if LENR has “ugly” parts.
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    COMMENT

    Dear Steven
    the ugliest part of LENR is overthrowing the Standard Nuclear Physics

    haha

    regards
    wlad

  976. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    My friend Prof. Sergio Focardi used to say: ” They sustain that known Physics are incompatible with LENR just because they do not study enough the so called known Physics”.
    The so called Rossi effect has nothing that cannot be explained by means of the well known Physics.
    About “Standard Nuclear Physics”: this definition is an oxymoron.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  977. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Regardless of the independent testing, do you see the immediate role of eCat technology as one of warming (heat generation) at moderate temperatures or do you foresee eCat becoming the heat source for electric power plant generation with their required higher operating temperatures?

    While it may be more technologically difficult going to the electricity generation route, it probably is an easier adaptation into the current energy system(s). Make the technology change at the energy generation point and make use of existing infrastructure to move the energy. Or, another way of looking at it — managing a few hundred GW eCat units might be easier than managing a million 1MW warm eCat units. Opinion?

  978. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    We are working in direction of heat production as well as in direction of electric power production. As for the scale issue, it depends on the evolution, therefore it is impossible right now to give specific answers. Opinions change with the results of tests and R&D. Please do not forget that the results of the test can be positive, but also negative.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  979. The contents of this article, if accurate, may turn out both to be important and have relevance to the development of the eCat:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/10755598/Global-solar-dominance-in-sight-as-science-trumps-fossil-fuels.html

    It is surprising ‘news’ to me.

    Rodney.

  980. Steven N. Karels

    Wladimir,

    While LENR technology looks promising, nuclear is present technology. Its ugly parts are known. I would contend we don’t know yet if LENR has “ugly” parts.

    My largest concern for eCat technology is the performance issue, aka COP. Nuclear, like hydro-electric, requires very little input power. If the eCat technology, for whatever reason, is limited to an effective COP of three, then it probably won’t be used for commercial electric power generation. I would guess an effective COP of 12 or higher — then it is a viable candidate.

    You are right about a blend of technologies existing in the near-term. I hope for LENR — but I still have my concerns and doubts. We will see.

  981. Wladimir Guglinski