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  1. Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi,

    If the High Temperature E-Cat produced its design power (nearly) continuously for an entire year, or about 8,765.76 hours, then its Energy Density (Wh/kg) should be about (8765.76/116) = 75 times the Energy Density reported in the May 2013 Arxiv paper.

    I don’t remember the May 2013 Energy Density, but a factor of 75 is significant. Of course, if it ran for only six months per charge, the Energy Density multiplying factor is ‘only’ about 38 times as large.

    Still good.

    Energetic regards,

    Joseph Fine

  2. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear A.R.
    I’m quite amazed by the statement “..the transmutation of Ni (…) has still to be confirmed.”
    You must admit: after 25 years, the transmutation which “has still to be confirmed” feeds the skepticism, at least with regard to the cold fusion. In my naivety, I would say: “If there is Copper, there is Copper. However, if there is no Copper, it means that there is no Copper. Full stop.”
    Where is the problem? Extremely sophisticated measurements? Unexpected difficulties?
    Where am I wrong? I hope that at least the Professors give a definitive answer.
    Giuliano Bettini.

  3. Martyn Aubrey

    Dear Dr Rossi,

    Whilst I understand that the domestic E-Cat will not be available until it is certified (which may take some time), what form would the construction take?

    1. A single reactor.

    2. A smaller version of the Cat & Mouse two reactor configuration.

    3. Something else.

    4. Not decided yet.

    Also, would the domestic E-Cat be purely electrically powered, purely gas powered, either, or both?

    Kind Regards,

    Martyn Aubrey.

  4. Andrea Rossi

    Martyn Aubrey:
    2.
    It will be either electrically or gas powered, we think.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  5. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    You had mentioned previously, I think, that the conversion of hydrogen plus nickel into copper was a secondary reaction regarding thermal energy generation. Now, apparently, you are suggesting that 62Ni production occurs and can possibly enhance the eCat efficiency. Are these statements in conflict?

    1. Can you clarify?
    2, Can you define what you mean by eCat efficiency? Improved effective COP? Something else?

  6. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    1- There is not a conflict, the transmutation of Ni remains a secondary effect that, by the way, has still to be confirmed.
    2- Efficiency is not just COP, is a more wide concept encompassing many other characteristics, like stability, reliability, duration etc. All these issues are in evolution.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  7. Wladimir Guglinski

    Dear Curiosone

    the nonsenses of Mr. JR make us to remember those said by Simplicius in Galileo’s Dialogue:

    http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/Extras/Galileo_Dialogue.html

    So,
    we realize that people never change.
    Simplicius tried to save the wrong Aristotle’s concepts. And Mr. JR is trying to save the flawed concepts of current Nuclear Physics.

    Changes the scenery of human theatrical comedy, but the characters are always the same.

    regards
    wlad

  8. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Your pre-order is in our records, as well as all the pre-orders we received, but I must say that we cannot foresee when the domestic E-Cats will be put in the market.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  9. Alan DeAngelis

    Dear Pekka Janhunen,

    I think the chemistry sets things up for the sort of reactions you’re proposing.
    If there are no gamma rays or neutrons, I think that the chemistry would set it up for the following nuclear reactions. Nickel hydride absorbs a proton to become cuprous hydride in an excited state. Cuprous hydride absorbs its proton to become zinc in an excited state. Zinc in an excited state, fissions into nickel (with two fewer neutrons) and helium.

    NiH2 >CuH*>Zn*> Ni + He

    For example:
    H(1) + Ni(62) > Cu(63)* Step1
    H(1) + Cu(63)* > Ni(60) + He(4) Step 2
    ________________________
    Over all
    2 H(1) + Ni(62) > Ni(60) + He(4) 9.87 MeV

    For example:
    H(1) + Ni(64) > Cu(65)* Step1
    H(1) + Cu(65)* > Ni(62) + He(4) Step 2
    ________________________
    Over all
    2 H(1) + Ni(64) > Ni(62) + He(4) 11.8 MeV

    And other isotopes:
    2 H(1) + Ni(N) > Ni(N-2) + He(4)

  10. Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in August 28th, 2014 at 4:55 PM

    Argon:
    Your pre-order, as all the pre-orders for domestic E-Cats, will be satisfied as soon as we will obtain the safety certification for the domestic E-Cat.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    ======================================

    Dear Andrea,
    please dont forget my pre-order of 1.000 domestic E-Cats.

    regards
    wlad

  11. Argon

    Dear Andrea! Many months ago, i deliver to pre-order yours small domestics LENR heater . Wanted to show students. Many papers descriptions of experiments can never replace training laboratory work. It is clear that the students can not afford commercially megawatt LENR system for 2 million dollars. Please suggest a simple version of the demonstration non-chemical power in the NI-H systems for students range tens-hundred watt power. Or do you think it premature and inappropriate to inform young people about the actual running LENR?

  12. Andrea Rossi

    Argon:
    Your pre-order, as all the pre-orders for domestic E-Cats, will be satisfied as soon as we will obtain the safety certification for the domestic E-Cat.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  13. Wladimir Guglinski

    JR wrote in August 28th, 2014 at 8:40 AM

    Why on earth would Curiosone want to thank Wladimir for totally ignoring the question that was asked and then using it as an excuse to post yet another error-riddled comment? Wlad’s comment is almost entirely incorrect and even if it had any meaningful content, it wouldn’t address the question of symmetries in any useful way.
    ===========================================================

    Daar Curiosone,
    Mr. JR is the person who claims that in the Figure 1 of the link bellow the shape is spherical:

    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v487/n7407/full/nature11246.html

    So, Mr. JR is a theorist able to avoid the breakdown of the current Nuclear PHysics by changing the fundamental principles of the Geometry.
    According to Mr. JR, a sphere has ellipsoidal shape.

    regards
    wlad

  14. DTravchenko

    JR:
    I do not agree with you. I too think that Wladimir Guglinski’s theories are very audacious, but Curiosone has to thank him because he has answered to his question based on his ideas, as well as he could.
    Warm Regards,
    DT

  15. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    To catch the essence of Parity, you can imagine to look at a mirror : the image you see of yourself when you look at you in a mirror has your left side and right side swapped: your right ear seems the left ear and vice versa. 3 of the 4 foundamental forces – strong, gravitational and electromagnetic- respect the parity in this sense, not so the weak forces: let me start a little bit from a deeper level.
    Massless particles can spin left handed, or right handed; in the weak interactions there is a symmetry only for the left handed elementary particles and the associated force, therefore the weak interactions violate Parity, because they discriminate between left and right.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  16. Dear Andrea,

    For your reaction, some speculation, for whatever it’s worth:

    1) List of exothermic p reactions of stable Ni and Cu isotopes
    (radioactive isotopes are marked with *):

    p + Ni58 –> Cu59* + 3.41861 MeV
    p + Ni60 –> Cu61* + 4.80002 MeV
    p + Ni61 –> Cu62* + 5.86565 MeV
    p + Ni62 –> Cu63 + 6.12181 MeV
    p + Ni64 –> Cu65 + 7.45291 MeV
    p + Cu63 –> Zn64 + 7.71373 MeV
    –> Ni60 + He4 + 3.75744 MeV
    p + Cu65 –> Zn66 + 8.92561 MeV
    –> Ni62 + He4 + 4.34708 MeV

    2) Postulate that reactions producing radioactive isotopes are
    suppressed (maybe because they produce less excess energy):

    p + Ni62 –> Cu63 + 6.12181 MeV
    p + Ni64 –> Cu65 + 7.45291 MeV
    p + Cu63 –> Zn64 + 7.71373 MeV
    –> Ni60 + He4 + 3.75744 MeV
    p + Cu65 –> Zn66 + 8.92561 MeV
    –> Ni62 + He4 + 4.34708 MeV

    3) Postulate that when there is a choice, reactions producing two
    output particles are strongly favoured (perhaps natural from reaction kinematics):

    p + Ni62 –> Cu63 + 6.12181 MeV
    p + Ni64 –> Cu65 + 7.45291 MeV
    p + Cu63 –> Ni60 + He4 + 3.75744 MeV
    p + Cu65 –> Ni62 + He4 + 4.34708 MeV

    4) Then the net reactions would be:

    2p + Ni62 –> Ni60 + He4 + 9.87925 MeV
    4p + Ni64 –> Ni60 + 2He4 + 21.6792 MeV
    p + Cu63 –> Ni60 + He4 + 3.75744 MeV
    3p + Cu65 –> Ni60 + 2He4 + 14.2263 MeV

    in other words, this kind of reasoning would predict formation of Ni-60. Since you say that Ni-62 is produced, instead, then the above reasoning cannot be entirely correct.

    regards, /pekka

  17. DTravchenko

    Dr Rossi:
    Is there any relation between symmetry and parity?
    Warm Regards,
    DT

  18. silvio caggia

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    It’s time to ask you the simplest and the more difficult question: do you have any idea about “from where” e-cat excess energy comes from?
    Which are the particles that are “consumed” in the so called Rossi effect producing heat?

  19. Andrea Rossi

    Silvio Caggia:
    Yes, we have a pretty precise idea, but I have to remind you that the results of the tests could be positive or negative.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  20. JR

    Why on earth would Curiosone want to thank Wladimir for totally ignoring the question that was asked and then using it as an excuse to post yet another error-riddled comment? Wlad’s comment is almost entirely incorrect and even if it had any meaningful content, it wouldn’t address the question of symmetries in any useful way.

  21. Curiosone

    Thank you for your “Simmetry” analogy, as usually you gave a model to understand for dummies.
    W.G.

  22. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    Not for dummies, just for not professionals. I am sure you also want to thank Wladimir Guglinski.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  23. Heath

    Thank you. I knew it was a very basic question when I asked and one that is much discussed. A few have wondered (ecatworld) if now you understood it to be something unrelated to LENR in theory and something different from Pons and Fleischmann so many years ago. I’m just hoping to clear up the small things. Good luck on the things to come!

  24. Andrea Rossi

    Heath:
    The Rossi Effect is something different from the F.P. effect, as you can easily understand studying both. The F.P. system is an electrolysis based concept, the R.E. is a H-Metal reaction.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  25. Curiosone

    Do you use different isotopes of Ni in your reactions?

  26. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    We think that our process, the so called “Rossi Effect”, is , as a serendipity, also a system to produce 62Ni, because only this fact can explain the formation of atoms of stable Cu, even if in very small amounts; we also noticed that using eventually powders of Ni enriched this way, the efficiency of the E-Cats increases. But we are not sure of this fact, because there may have been errors in the analysis, so we are studying , as a side effect , this phenomenon. Obviously, I cannot add information regarding this issue, pending the patents relative to it.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  27. Heath

    Dear Andrea.
    I am new to commenting on this site but greatly appreciate your work in the invention, design and understanding of the e-cat. And I am certainly excited for the report soon to come and the reactor for Industrial Heat’s customer. Do you still believe that the Rossi Effect involves low energy nuclear reactions?

  28. Andrea Rossi

    Heath:
    Whatever definition you want to give them, obviously yes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  29. Wladimir Guglinski

    Curiosone wrote in August 24th, 2014 at 6:06 PM

    When you have time: in your answers regarding Physics, you said that Higgs boson breaks the “symmetry”. What is exactly the simmetry?
    Thank you for your patience,
    W.G.
    ——————————————————————

    .

    Andrea Rossi wrote in August 25th, 2014 at 10:18 PM

    Curiosone:

    As we saw, from symmetry arise the 4 forces: strong force, electromagnetic force, weak force and gravitational force arise all from symmetry: let’s try to see how.
    ========================================================

    COMMENT:

    Dear Curiosone,
    actually all the Modern Physics was developed on the concept of symmetry. So, the current Nuclear Theory is also based on the concept of symmetry.

    That’s why, according to current Nuclear Physics, even-even nuclei with the same quantity Z of protons and N neutrons, Z=N, as 2He4, 4Be8, 6C12, 8O16, 10Ne20, etc., would have to have spherical shape.

    However experiments have detected that even-even nuclei with Z=N have non-spherical shape:

    How atomic nuclei cluster
    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v487/n7407/full/nature11246.html

    Look at the Figure 1 of the paper the elipsoidal shape of the nucleus 10Ne20.

    .

    According to the current Nuclear Physics, there is only one way to explain such eliposoidal shape of the even-even nuclei with Z=N:
    There is need to consider a fifth fundamental force existing in the Nature

    .

    Other experiment detected that the nucleus 224Ra has a pear shape IMPOSSIBLE to occur, according to the current Nuclear Physics:

    Pear-Shaped Nucleus Boosts Search for Alternatives to “Standard Model” Physics
    The strange shape of radium 224 could lead to new physics:
    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/pear-shaped-nucleus-boost-search-for-alternatives-to-standard-model-physics/

    That’s why some theorists are thinking that it is unavoidable to consider a fifth force beyond the four fundamental forces proposed in the Standard Model, otherwise it is impossible to explain such anomalous shape of the Ra224.

    In the link posted above, Stephen Batters says:
    “Even more enticingly, the experiments could probe basic physics. The standard model of particle physics, which describes the strong and weak nuclear forces and the electromagnetic force, leaves several basic questions unanswered.”

    And nuclear physicist Gavin Smith of the University of Manchester, UK, says:
    I believe that this will eventually lead to results of much broader impact than this experiment alone, with the possibility of placing constraints on the standard model,”

    regards
    wlad

  30. orsobubu

    In the answer to Italo R., who says that wars are due to oil, Andrea Rossi writes that “the roots of wars are deeper: during the stone age men killed each other not for lack of stones. Cain did not kill Abel for lack of apples.”

    This is absolutely correct. Most of the wars today are placed in the new framework of global relations that began to take shape in the 90s, with the federation of the Euro and the rise of Asia and China in particular. In the relations between powers, what matters is not the specific event but the historical process leading to the event and that is intrinsic to the structure of the system itself, the capitalistic production system and the imperialistic political order (Kissinger). It is from the womb of politics that the wars take their origin (Klausewitz), being the result of objective causal chains, from a society in which the human species is not consciously master of its own destiny. The states and the wars between the states are irreconcilable expressions of the conflict between classes: the uneven economic and political development changes the relationship between the powers, calls for a strength showdown and leads to the breakdown of the international order. (Guido La Barbera, La nuova fase strategica, 2014)

  31. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear Andrea,
    do you hear some other rumors, other than Brumm Brumm? :)
    I mean:
    I know you cannot “give informations either in positive or in negative”, but what are, at this moment, your feelings about the Report?
    1. None?
    2. Positive?
    3. Negative?
    4. Too many Harley Davidson all around?
    (Of course, answer “1″ is not allowed. It’s not credible ….).
    Regards,
    Giuliano Bettini.

  32. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    4
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  33. Alessandro Coppi

    In add to the last post of Steven we could imagine that we have in front of us a nickel plated iron surface, and I observed that the nickel plated surfaces if printed by laser beam becomes like sponge, could be this one a good way to go?
    When you will own the report of trp2, will you publish something here before the TRP2 public release?

    Best regards
    Alessandro Coppi

  34. Andrea Rossi

    Alessandro Coppi:
    I cannot comment on this in positive or negative and will publish nothing before TIP’ s Report publication.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  35. Steven N. Karels

    A Look at the eCat Nickel Surface – A Guess

    We understand that approximately 5 grams of nickel powder are contained within the eCat. We also know the dimensions of the eCat reactor are 33 cm in length and a diameter of 9 cm. We further understand that the nickel particles have an average diameter of 1 micron. So what does the nickel layer look like?

    Assumptions:

    1. The nickel particles are coated by some means on the interior of the outside cylinder probably through the use of a highly thermally conductive adhesive.
    2. The dimensions of the interior cylinder are 32cm in length with an interior diameter of 8.5 cm.

    Calculations:

    The area of this interior surface would be 32cm x pi * 8.5 cm or 854.5 cm2. The density of nickel is 8.912 grams per cc. So 5 grams of bulk nickel would occupy a space of 0.561 cc.

    If the nickel were bulk (not particle shaped), the nickel layer on the interior cylinder would be 0.561 cc / 854.5 cm2 or 656.5 microns. To account for the spherical particle shape we multiply by 4 / pi to estimate a nickel particle thickness of 835.9 microns. The actual adhesive and nickel particle will be thicker to accommodate imperfect packing geometry so we can assume a coating thickness of around 1 millimeter.

  36. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Obviously, I cannot comment in positive or in negative.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  37. Dear Andrea,
    The Higgs mechanism can give mass to gauge bosons and to fermions, but it does not turn bosons into fermions. Turning bosons into fermions would need more mathematical machinery, because one cannot reach half-integer numbers by doing additions or subtractions of integers.
    regards, /pekka

  38. Andrea Rossi

    Pekka Janhunen:
    Thank you for your comment, but the mechanism is much more complex. Obviously in the proposed analogies I have to simplify enormously, otherwise instead of giving a simple nutshell I make things more complicated. The same analogies are misleading, being semplifications, if referred to a rigorous interpretation. Who wants to have a rigorous explication of the Higgs mechanism can go to:
    Standard Model Lagrangian with explicit Higgs term ( T.D.Gutierrez, 1999)
    An introduction to Quantum Field Theory ( M.E. Peskin, D.V. Schroeder, 1995)
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  39. Curiosone

    When you have time: in your answers regarding Physics, you said that Higgs boson breaks the “symmetry”. What is exactly the simmetry?
    Thank you for your patience,
    W.G.

  40. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    The concept of Symmetry in Physics is not substantially different from the common use: in the common language we define “symmetric” an object that reflects the same shape in two parts of it, for example a face is symmetric if its left side is equal to its right side. In Physics is defined symmetric a characteristic that is equal separately at every point ( in case of “gauge symmetry) or uniformely everywhere at the same time ( in case of global symmetry).
    As we saw, from symmetry arise the 4 forces: strong force, electromagnetic force, weak force and gravitational force arise all from symmetry: let’s try to see how.
    Imagine gauge symmetry to be like a system of trails along which multiplets of particles travel like trains and imagine that the trails are not straight and flat, but like roller coasters; now imagine that the wheels of the train are of four type: one type feels the strong forces, one the e.m. forces, one the weak f., one the gravitational f.: imagine that the strong forces are the ones that push the wheels rightward, the e.m. the ones that pull and push the wagons up and down, the weak the ones that try to slow down the trains, the gravitational the ones that try to make the train fall along the perpendicular of the train’s axis: obviously, these examples have nothing to do with the reality, are just analogies; where these forces are felt is because the displacement from the position of the trail respect the straight and flat position is filled up by means of the FIELD relative to the specific force, so that are the fields that vibrating make the train subject to their force: so we can say that forces arise from symmetry. All this would conserve the gauge symmetry, should not exist the Higgs Field. Imagine that upon the top of the wagons there are pebbles. Now imagine that the train arrives to a terrain full of grass, high grass that makes fluffy the space between the two leads of the trails and upon the trails: obviously the attrite between the wheels and the grass covering the trail will slow down the train, and the wagons would feel their mass, mainly the wheels, while the pebbles not being affected by the attrite, are projected ahead: the grass ( the Higgs Field) breaks the symmetry, now wheels feel their mass because the attrite with the grass slows them down, while the pebbles are not affected and continue to go ahead. Now if we make bosons correspond to the train before the Higgs Field, photons the pebbles, we can say that the Higgs Field has turned the Bosons into Fermions breaking the symmetry.
    As a matter of fact, symmetry is a much more complicated thing, but I think this analogy can give an idea of a possible model.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  41. DTravchenko

    By the way: can ou tell us in which state of the USA is the customer who bought the 1 MW plant from IH?
    DT

  42. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    All this kind of information will be given in due time.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  43. Curiosone

    Does the fuel efficiency decrease during the 6 months of scheduled operation?
    W.G.

  44. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    No, the efficiency remains the same during the 6 months of scheduled operaton.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  45. Joseph Fine

    Silvio:

    Thank you for sending me (and the readers) the link to Reciprocal System Theory.

    It looks very interesting but I will refrain from making any comments until I have read and studied it more.

    Reciprocal Regards.

    Joseph Fine

  46. Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi, one source claims that 14,500 wars have taken place between 3500 BC and the late 20th century, costing 3.5 billion lives, leaving only 300 years of peace.
    3500 + 1980 = 5480 years.
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA

  47. LENR-to-Market Digest — August 22, 2014 – It’s been 4.5 months since I compiled a digest. While I’ve not been able to be comprehensive this time, pulling from the many news sources, I was able to organize most all of the 120 E-CatWorld articles Frank posted, which gives an exciting overview of the burgeoning stage of development the industry is at. (PESN; August 22, 2014)

  48. silvio caggia

    @joseph fine
    Your link about radiactive isotopes and neutrinos
    m.phys.org/_news201795438.html#jCp
    says:
    “No one knows how neutrinos could interact with radioactive materials to change their rate of decay.”
    This is false, try the Reciprocal System theory:
    rs2theory.org/atoms/isotopes
    Good luck (warning: you need to be very open minded about phisics to accept RS2).

  49. DTravchenko

    I bet a supper in Moscow and I lost. It’s yours if you come here.
    Warm regards
    DT

  50. Italo R.

    Dear Dr. Rossi, don’t you think that in future, when your QUAR will be applied all over the world in hundreds of million pieces, there will be less wars due to oil?

    Peaceful Regards

  51. Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.:
    The roots of wars are deeper: during the stone age men killed each other not for lack of stones. Cain did not kill Abel for lack of apples.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  52. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear A.R.
    I had intentionally left ambiguous the question.
    =D
    I specify:
    1. you will post the Report on the JoNP, before the publication?
    2. they will deliver to you the Report several days before the publication?
    3. what’s the meaning of “several”? One day? One week?
    Regards,
    Bettini.

  53. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    1- no
    2- yes
    3- 3 to 4 days
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  54. George

    Good morning dr. Rossi is following the events in the Middle East? where the nations are at war for the procurement of energy based on oil?
    The situation is very serious!
    See the video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrhZwWWMmAk

  55. Andrea Rossi

    George:
    The events in M.E. are a tragedy. Oil is doubtless an issue on that field. Let’s hope a peaceful solution is found.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  56. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear Andrea, I read on JoNP:
    ——————————————————-
    H-G Branzell, July 1st, 2014 at 2:23 PM
    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    (…)Why don’t you just publish the report here (…) ?

    Andrea Rossi, July 1st, 2014 at 3:43 PM
    (…) Our protocol so far says that they will deliver to me the report several days before the publication.
    ——————————————————-
    Can you confirm that it will be done? Thank you.
    Giuliano Bettini.

  57. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    Can you specify your question? What do you mean with “it”?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  58. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Interesting, anyway. To study wrong ideas can bring us to good ideas.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  59. DTravchenko

    I bet this comment and the former one will be spammed by the robot.
    DT

  60. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    Do you know that 75% of the motorcycles in the USA are Harley Davidsons? This is why I hear only their rumors: they are so many!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    p.s.
    What did you bet?

  61. Joseph Fine

    AR,

    I’m sorry. I stated it backwards. If the decay rate of a radioactive element gets smaller due to reduced solar neutrino flux, it becomes less radioactive and the half life would get longer. So the way to get rid of radioactive wastes is be to shield materials from neutrinos as much as possible. (Seems like an impractical idea!)

    And, unfortunately, I have no idea how to do that as of now. Oh well, the article was interesting. :)

    Joseph Fine

  62. Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi,

    http://phys.org/news201795438.html#jCp

    An online article at http://www.Phys.org (see above) suggests that Radioactive decay rates depend on the incoming rate (flux) of Solar Neutrinos from the Sun. When solar flares erupt, the rate of solar neutrinos declines and the decay rate of radioactive isotopes decreases as well. When the solar neutrino flux increases to normal, the decay rate returns (that is, increases) to normal.

    The article does not say how any change in neutrino flux could alter radioactive decay rates, but only suggests that it does. The author also did not mention any possible contribution of electromagnetic fields. (At night-time, after traveling 93 Million miles as well as through the earth, it is difficult to imagine how an EM field from the Sun could have any effect on a detector on the Earth.)

    A possible conclusion from my reading of this article – my own crazy idea – is that increasing the neutrino flux probably would increase the radioactive isotope decay rate. And, increasing Solar Neutrinos above the normal flux, should reduce the Half Life (increase the decay rate) of a radioactive element. So, ‘Voila’, there it is ! To increase the radioactive decay rate of a substance, just increase the neutrino flux. All you need are a few more neutrinos.

    The rest are engineering details!

    Sunny regards,

    Joseph Fine

  63. Curiosone

    I am in vacation in India where I think the E-Cat can have enormous importance. What do you think? I also have big problems with moschitos: do you think the Ecat can be useful for disinfestation ?
    Thank you
    WG

  64. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    I am not an expert of disinfestation, but I do not think that the E-Kat could help. About you, I think also in India you can find TriCalm, the best after moschito bite cream we have in the USA.
    Warmest Regards
    A.R.

  65. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Hopefully this posting has outwitted your robot…

    Do you take vacations (defined as one week or longer away from the place you work)? If so, when was your last vacation?

  66. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    My last vacation has been in Italy in Costa Smeralda in August 2011 two weeks. Since then I have not been able to leave my job. But I must add that the places I am working in are so beautiful, that I am very lucky to be here.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  67. BroKeeper

    Dear Andrea

    Thinking about the logical/hypothetical assessment Mr. Karels presented on the ‘E-Cat Fuel Limitations’, has it been conceived by your team a means by which the spent nickel powder core could be replaced on an automated continuous basis?

    In my limited knowledge of metallic particle flow under harsh heat conditions, perhaps a very slow heat tolerant auger would feed at one end while dumping the “41%” spent nickel into a hopper at the other end. This not only could provide an extension of its life cycle but break up any coagulation occurring.
    I’m sure you have thought of many ways to extend the maintenance cycle of the E-Cat and their limitations. Could you share your thoughts on these proposed concepts? Thanks.

    With much respect, BK

  68. Andrea Rossi

    Brokeeper:
    Maintainance is made by our assistance team. When charges have to be changed the system is fast.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  69. DTravchenko

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    I know that you don’t care rumors, whispers etc, but I am hearing very strong rumors from important sources that the report of the TIP will be published in September. Any comment?
    DT

  70. Curiosone

    Thank you for all your answers about Physics: I appreciated also your answer about mass and gravity.
    W.G.

  71. Francesco Poscetti

    Carissimo Andrea Rossi,

    Ti seguo dal 2011, quando mi sono cominciato ad interessare al problema energetico dell’umanità. La tua invenzione e’ la soluzione più promettente tra quelle che io conosco. Sono molti mesi ormai che attendo novità. So che stiamo aspettando un test di terze parti. Quando scade il termine? Sono impaziente! E sono anche un pò preoccupato perchè ho timore che questa tecnologia venga frenata dal sistema attuale. Sara accessibile a tutti? O avremo il solito monopolio? A parte questi miei timori vorrei comunque ringraziarti di tutto quello che hai fatto. Sei un esempio per me.
    Francesco Poscetti
    Ps. Qual’è la fase successiva?

    ENGLISH
    Your invention is the most promising game changer I heard of. We all are waiting for the publication of the second TIPR: is there a term for the publication? Will this technology available to all?
    What’s the next step?
    Thank you for your work.
    Francesco Poscetti

  72. Andrea Rossi

    Francesco Poscetti:
    Thank you for your kind attention.
    Answers:
    1- There is not a term for the publication, but I think it will not take long, at this point.
    2- This technology will be available for industrial utilizations, eventually it will be available also for domestic applications, provided safety certifications will be granted after enough experience in the industries.
    3- Next step: the 1 MW plant installed in the factory of a Customer of IH.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  73. Angel Blume

    Dear Mr. Rossi.

    I am happy knowing that some posts are erroneously classified as spam.
    Were not for your kind responses I had thought I were banned.

    Warm regards

    Angel

  74. Andrea Rossi

    Angel Blume:
    For some reason that we do not know, many comments go in the spam. Our IT guy says that probably in the address or in the text there is something that the robot identifies as an advertisement. I always take a look to the first page of spam, to check if there is a good one, and now and again i fish a good comment erroneously spammed, but we receive hundreds of spammed comments per day, so, unfortunately, some good comment goes lost. What I suggest, if a comment is spammed, is to change address from where you send the comment, or eliminate any link, because sometimes links are carriers of advertising and for this reason the comments are spammed. I never ban anybody!!! Sometimes I spam a comment because contains offensive expressions, but when I do it I always send a private email to the Author, explaining why I spammed the comment: I spam specific comments, never ban any Reader !
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  75. Steven N. Karels

    eCat Fuel Limitations

    Let us make a hypothesis that the primary reaction within the eCat is a hydrogen-to-hydrogen reaction. Andrea Rossi has stated he now believes the nickel plus hydrogen to copper is a secondary reaction. So let us assume that the secondary reaction is at 1 per cent level. Let us also assume that the nickel consists of the natural distribution of nickel isotopes and the reaction between the hydrogen-to-hydrogen only occurs in the presence of 64Ni. 64NI occurs in about 0.9% of natural nickel.

    We understand that the amount of natural nickel in the eCat reactor is about 5 grams of mass. So the 64Ni would constitute about 46 milligrams. A 10kW eCat reactor operating continuously for 6 months would produce 43,200 kWhrs of energy. One gram of converted mass is equivalent to 23,000 kWhrs of energy. So 1.88 grams of mass will have been converted to energy. With our assumption of a 1 per cent secondary reaction, the amount of 64Ni would be 18.8 milligrams.

    If the above is true, then the long term output power of the eCat should decrease by 41% over the six month operating run. Look to the independent report to see if this occurred.

  76. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    This comment of yours has been casually recovered by me in the spam, where the robot had placed it. Please use another address to send your comments from, because this one goes to the spam, for some reason. Thank you for your insight.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  77. Italo R.

    Dear Dr. Rossi,
    the TPR2 has lasted about 6 months, and has been made only on one reactor. There were other two of them as spares, but they haven’t been used, there hasn’t been no need to use and test them.
    The writing of its report is lasting for long, very long time.

    I mean: for me, the result surely will be very very exciting.

    Kind Regards,
    Italo R.

  78. Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.:
    Thank you: we must be patient.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  79. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I know that you have repeatedly stated the long duration test may be positive or negative. And I understand this as a normal disclaimer. But what you have revealed is that a single eCat operated for a long period of time, perhaps greater than six months of continuous operation. So the only success or failure metric that I can foresee is if the total energy being used to control the eCat was greater or less than the total energy output by the eCat. Am I missing another possible metric or outcome? Given your statement that it operated continuously and without failure seems to me to limit other possible outcomes. We all await to see what that ratio (output vs input energy) will be.

  80. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    We all wait to see, you are right.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  81. Andrea Rossi

    Angek Blume:
    Thank you for your attention.
    The text-tail is due to the fact that the results of the long run Third Independent Party can really be positive or negative, as far as I know. Anyway should not be long the waiting for the results at this point. As for the industrial plant, we must wait a long run operation before being sure it works and respects the guarantees.
    Thanks, again, for your offer of help.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  82. Angel Blume

    Dear Mr. Rossi
    I am buffled by the persistent texttail ‘positive or negative’.
    What is it related to?
    Of course NOT to efficiency as it would mean that the E-Cat does not work.
    If problems with process control / safety, it is a matter of time.
    If related to Ni isotopes enrichement / separation let me know.
    Do not dismay.
    Go on and do not hesitate on asking for help if needed.

  83. Dear Andrea Rossi, Mr. Inventor

    Probably self-evident for you, but I did not think or realize that atomic vibration of individual atoms even in very small nanoscale atomic clusters are not equal. External atoms on the surface of the nano-structure vibrate more than internal atoms. Sounds very common sense, of course.

    Anyway, interesting article about it, see
    - Popularization in phys.org: “Scientists unveil new technology to better understand small clusters of atoms”, http://phys.org/news/2014-08-scientists-unveil-technology-small-clusters.html
    - Original article in Physical Review Letters: “Modeling Nanoscale Inhomogeneities for Quantitative HAADF STEM Imaging”, http://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.113.075501

    I remember that you have found certain confidential particle size of nickel powder to work best for Rossi effect. An outsider speculation: maybe there are additional reasons than just larger surface with smaller particles to that.

    kind regards

    Ville Kanninen

  84. Andrea Rossi

    Ville Kanninen:
    Thank you.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  85. Will Hurley

    Mr. Rossi,

    Will the Ecat qualify for low-carbon/clean energy tax incentives, credits or subsities that will lower the initial capital cost. I understand that it is competitive now. It is probably still to early but it will be a selling point.
    God speed
    Will

  86. Andrea Rossi

    Will Hurley:
    I do not know about the matter, but we are not counting on incentives.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  87. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear Andrea,
    “Our activity is in expansion, the team is increasing. Important events are on the verge to happen.”
    Seems to be the TYPICAL move of whom is expecting “negative results”, I would say. :)
    What kind of “important events”?
    Regards,
    Giuliano Bettini.

  88. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    Obviously, even in case of negative results the activity will continue, probably in a more difficult situation, but we are not going to retire whatever the results.
    Due information will be given in due time.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  89. McEk

    Steve Karels,
    I certainly do not want to run the Hot cat in an ‘open loop situation’ because in that case you would have no control. As far as I know is the Hot cat controlled by a temperature control loop: If the temperature exceeds a desired temperature, you switch the internal electrical heating element off, if it drops say ten degrees below that, you switch it on. What I understood is that if the temperature increases, the probability of runaway is higher. What I suggested is to control the Hot cat temperature with the flow of the cooling medium (say water). So if the temperature rises you increase the flow, it it drops you lower the flow, so it is still controlled and certainly not ‘open loop’. If, for whatever reason, the temperature continues to rise, I would suggest a second (safety) cooling loop with a factor 10 higher maximum flow and triggered by a second temperature indicator, which should always be able to stop a runaway and switch it completely off.
    There is a similarity with a nuclear fission power station, which is also being operated around the runaway point (‘reactor is critical’). The biggest difference is that I think that a Hot cat that melts down is potentially not very dangerous for people and the environment, but melt down of a nuclear power station is and that therefore the precautions can be relaxed for a ‘critical’ Hot cat.
    Andrea Rossi indicated that this cannot be done because of safety reasons. He will know best. Maybe the Hot cat can explode in case of a runaway, or cause fire or melt through its casing, whatever. I am sure for the time being he wants to walk the safe way and I agree with that. A ‘critical’ Hot cat may be something for the future if the advantages of this approach exceed the disadvantages.

  90. Italo R.

    Dear Dr. Rossi, you have written:
    “… In September I am afraid this situation will be frequent, but with the help of my great team we can do it. Failure is not an option….”

    Can you give us some more details about what will happen in September? Thank you

    Working Regards,
    Italo R.

  91. Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.:
    Our activity is in expansion, the team is increasing. Important events are on the verge to happen.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  92. Italo R.

    Dear Dr. Rossi, you have written:
    “… In September I am afraid this situation will be frequent, but with the help of my great team we can do it. Failure is not an option….”

    Can you give us more details about what will happen in September? Thank you

    Working Regards,
    Italo R.

  93. Curiosone

    On the New York Times of today is published an article about Diesel oil made by algae: is this related to your patent of 1978 to make oil from wastes?
    W.G.

  94. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    Mass and Gravity are two completely different things. You can have Mass in absence of Gravity ( otherwise you could move spaceships in the space without any effort) and you can have Gravity in absence of Mass ( for example light rays, made by massless photons, are bent by the gravitational field of galaxies).
    Said this, Mass, conceptually, measures how much resistance you encounter when you push apart an object at a certain speed; more precisely, Mass is the amount of Energy that an object has when it is at rest: from the Einstein equation E=mc^2, you , which gives us the amount of energy that is in an object with a certain mass, we have, by equivalence, a formula that gives us the mass of the same object when it is not moving. Gravity is a force, mediated by gravitons, independent from mass: if I remember well I already answered you about how we can conceptually figure gravity fields and their bosons ( gravitons).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  95. Curiosone

    When you have time: what is the difference between mass and gravity exactly? I continue to take advantage from your ability to explain simply diff ult things, or things difficult for me.
    Thank you
    W.G.

  96. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    I think you are referring to the plant made in Alabama by Algae System, a Nevada company. They heat algae at 300°C at high pressure and, yes, it is the same process I patented in 1978. Good luck to them, is an important contribution and a very interesting new energy source.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  97. DTravchenko

    Andrea Rossi:
    There are rumors that the 1 MW plant is running well already. Is it true?
    Warm Regards,
    D.T.

  98. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    Yes, the 1 MW plant has been made in the USA by IH.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  99. DTravchenko

    I also want to ask: the 1 MW plant has been made totally in the USA by IH ?
    Warm Regards,
    D.T.

  100. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    Information about the 1 MW plant will be given in due time. Now is too soon to give any kind of information, in positive or in negative.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  101. Steven N. Karels

    McEk,

    If I understand your suggestion correctly, it would be to run the Hot eCat in an open loop mode of operation — that is, let it run away but rely on cooling to keep it from destroying itself. Is that essentially correct? The problem with open loop systems, among other things, is that what happens if the cooling system fails? What about the thermal resistance between the cooling fluid and the eCat? The eCat could destroy itself. Keep up the suggestions but I don’t think this one is practical.

  102. > I also like to play drums ( Jazz), but I have no more the time to exercise, so I am losing the skill: years ago I was very good, >now I stink.

    If you stink, then you are ready to play with us. “Stinking” is intricate to our style.

  103. Andrea Rossi

    Thomas Florek:
    Not true: your band is good and your music interesting.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  104. Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi, your readers may be interested in this book.
    Google:
    I LOVE TO READ BOOKS OF PHYSICS
    Click on:
    For The Love Of Physics/Bill Gates
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA

  105. Andrea Rossi

    Robert Curto:
    Thank you for the reference.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  106. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    I wonder if there is a way to design a home product, such as a basic heater, that would keep it super safe and accident proof. For example, making an incredibly thick reactor wall (far larger than what is required) and a robust, fire proof case of thick metal? Surely there is some level of overkill shielding and structual reinforcement that would not rupture even in the worst of runaway situations? Could you build such a prototype, intentionally allow the reactor to melt down (on the inside), and repeat the process a hundred times to show the cerificators?

    It seems to me that although such a device could cost more in materials, it could be accident proof.

  107. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    The proposed model of domestic E-Cat is accident proof, but the concept of “accident proof” must be based on precise protocols that do not exist for LENR. This makes the limits of the concept unknown, therefore is necessary experience to build a protocol from the statistics. It is a very complex thing.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  108. McEk

    Dear Adrea,

    I am following your E-cat/ Hot cat developments now for 3 years and I have read about all the little and big steps in progress you are making. I would love to be one of your team, but I am sure that will not be possible. Nevertheless, I constantly think of things I read. I have tried to ask your opinion on this earlier, but it is difficult to find the right entrance of your blog.

    My suggestion is to run the Hot cat at such high temperature that runaway would start and then use the cooling medium to control the temperature. The advantage is that there is no need for stimulating the LENR process and energy input, so the COP would virtually be infinite. It would bring the possibility of producing electricity in combination with the Hot cat a huge step forward.
    The disadvantage is that you cannot control the energy output of the Hot cat, but just its stability. However, windmills and solar panels suffer a similar problem and that does not seem a real disadvantage.
    I would love to read your opinion about this, although I expect you have had a similar idea yourself or within your team.

  109. Andrea Rossi

    McEk:
    This is not possible, for safety reasons.
    Thank you anyway for your suggestion,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  110. WaltC

    Dear Andrea,
    Domestic certification could become practicable overnight with the stroke of a pen (if not in the US, then elsewhere).

    Have something on the verge of ready to go, that’s all I ask.

    That’s an awful lot to ask of you and your team, I understand!

    Best wishes,
    WaltC

  111. Andrea Rossi

    WaltC:
    Domestic certification for LENR is not like for a normal appliance. I already explained why.
    The task, not easy, is to convince the Certificator that LENR can be handled by laymen. We need consolidated experience with industrial plants . It is not how you say, the issue is not to show to have something practicable, it is to convince that LENR are not dangerous for persons without skill for them. It is much more complex than you say. It is not impossible, though.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  112. Ralf

    Dear Andrea,
    could you tell us something about an average working day?
    At what time you start work, end work?
    What do you do the most time?
    Meetings? Study results? Making drawings? Visiting the labs/fab? Travelling to other IH sites?
    Lunch time? After works? Hobby/Recreation? Do you still do your running sport?
    Maybe you can give us little look inside your daily business as a R&D Chief in Operation :-)
    Thanks
    __
    Ralf

  113. Andrea Rossi

    Ralf:
    For whom it may interest: I wake up at 6, run 1 hour ( or bike, or tennis, or swim, I consider mandatory 1 hour exercise per day), two hours per day are dedicated to study Physics, mandatory, either related to the E-Cat or independent from it, or at least not directly related. Twelve hours are dedicated to the work on the E-Cats and Hot Cats, which depends on the specific situation, can be experiments in the laboratory, control of the manufacturing to study better systems, invention every day of new things to make it better together with the great Team with which I share the job in IH. This can happen in the factory of IH or of the Customer of IH or in other locations of IH: inventions, I can’t help to stay without them. Measurements analysis are a daily duty too. Obviously meetings are part of the job, to maintain a clear vision of the precise duties of every component of the Team, that vibrate upon a dynamic field. The remaining hours are dedicated to my personal life, usually, but many times these plans have to change: it happened that I had to stay 36 hours straight on a plant in critical operation to control it, without sleeping, eating, just drinking water. Luckily God gave me strong excess of stamina and I use it, if necessary, to the limit. In September I am afraid this situation will be frequent, but with the help of my great team we can do it. Failure is not an option.
    Hobby: I adore to read books of Physics, I need to learn. Recreation: Play Tennis with my woman ( much stronger than me). I also like to play drums ( Jazz), but I have no more the time to exercise, so I am losing the skill: years ago I was very good, now I stink.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  114. WaltC

    Dear Andrea,
    I like the “all of the above” list that you have in mind for upcoming work. It’s good to have lots of irons in the fire– it keeps everyone energized.

    - Is the following item (that’s been discussed here before) also on your “radar screen”?:

    A portable E-cat based room heater that plugs into a normal power outlet, provides a high COP, and can heat a single room with a thermal output of, say, 0.5KW-1.5KW.

    I realize you’re not currently certified to sell such a device to the residential market, but once you had certification, if you had something like that “on the shelf” and ready to go, it would be a quick sell into many homes around the world since it has the benefit of ultra high efficiency and “no installation required!”. We could pick it up at the portable heater section of any store and plug it in immediately.

  115. Andrea Rossi

    WaltC:
    Yes, this is a good idea, even if not practicable until we have a domestic certification.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  116. Steven N. Karels

    Dear AR,

    You must have discovered cloning and made many copies of yourself to do so much, so continually, and so well… (LOL)

  117. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    I have a great Team that makes it possible.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  118. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    As the independent report draws near and your 1MW industrial unit is eventually released to your customer, what will you be working on? Is it

    a. A higher sustained eCat temperatures?
    b. Multi-MegaWatt thermal output eCat?
    c. Smaller eCat output?
    d. Non-electrically driven eCat (e.g., natural gas)?
    e. Electricity production?
    f. All of the above (plus some more)?

    What do you plan to be working on in 2015?

  119. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels.
    f
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  120. Koen Vandewalle

    Andrea,

    Even in the case that the report of TIP2 is negative, then does the Rossi-Effect bring new scientific insights that industry can rely on to create substantial solutions to the problems of the world of today ?
    I mean very specific towards energy and environmental problems.

    I derive that from an earlier answer of yours that you plan to work even more in that case of a negative outcome.

    It remains a very strange situation that a technology that could avoid some kind of world armageddon, remains private property. There exist examples of inventions with military and/or intelligence properties that become military secrets or of national interest, and therefore can not be exploited by private persons or companies.

    I know this is a very stupid question because most of the problems we have now are often man-made and they could be solved if all humans were able to think and work together with sophisticated systems of motivation and redistribution.

    We’re mostly looking for an easy way out, that does not demand to change our habits a lot. Do you, in general, believe there is an easy way out ?

    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  121. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    There are not free meals ( First Principle of Thermodynamics).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  122. Angel Blume

    Dear Mr. Rossi

    I thank you for your response. It makes sense for me and reveals the “-cat” expression. Keep secrecy of catalyst. Good luck.

  123. Andrea Rossi

    Angel Blume:
    Thank you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  124. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    I would say that we are working to have also at higher temperatures the same reliability.
    Yes, the production of high temperature and low temperature plants will have separated lines.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  125. Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi,

    Have E-Cat systems that could be used in the lower temperature range of 200-400 degrees Celsius more developed and “robust” than Higher Temperature systems to be used in a temperature range of 600-800+ degrees Celsius? By more robust, I mean more reliable, more efficient, having greater operation time before recharging etc. Lower temperature systems would probably be less expensive as well.

    If so, are there any plans on dividing the product line into lower and higher temperature systems? (Not Industrial vs Domestic systems, but Industrial High Temp and Industrial Medium Temp systems.)

    Best regards,

    Joseph Fine

  126. Daniel De Caluwé

    Dear dr. Rossi,

    The point I try to make is this:

    Because of human influence in present climate change, and because of the fact that the present nuclear energy technology is not good enough (safety and environmental issues), and in the case the results of the tests (mentioned below) would be ‘negative’, and imagine (hypothetical) to the level that IH would decide to stop funding your work, it’s my opinion that you or someone else should go on with your work, even if that would mean with public money, and this just for the reason that the world needs your technology (or the further development of it in case of ‘negative’ results). And confronted with the environmental problems of present solutions (fossil fuels and present nuclear technology), and the limitations of others (wind and solar), and the fact that the world population rises quickly (at the moment 7 billion people, and in 2040 or 2050 maybe 10 billion people on this planet, who will ask for the same living standard as we have now), we maybe need a kind of Manhatten Project (for the further development of Cold Fusion, LENR and/or QUAR), and why not, financed by the UN? (The public worldwide interest is or could be bigger than the private interests, working via the free market, but that’s just my opinion ;-)

    Kind Regards,

  127. Carlo Marcena

    Dear Andrea, dear All,

    I want to underline and support Hank Mills last contribution to this blog, and in particular his statement “The simple truth is that the E-Cat works. Regardless as to the upcoming report, there can be no reasonable doubt of this”.
    At this point in time, the only doubts may be about COP value, dependability, availability, etc.: all of them being fundamental issues to be identified, measured, resolved, improved …, still – for sure – in need of important R&D work. But all of them notwithstanding, another quote from Hank last message, “the E-Cat technology has already proven to be real”.
    Warm regards,
    CM

  128. Andrea Rossi

    Carlo Marcena:
    Please read my answer to Daniel De Caluwé one hour ago.
    Warmest Regards,
    A.R.

  129. Daniel De Caluwé

    Dear dr. Rossi,

    As I also know for a very long time that you have something very valuable (based on all previous tests and all information we got so far), I agree completely with the last message of Hank Mills, so, if the results of the Third Party Test (nr. 2) and the results of the 1MW plant (tested at the site of a customer) would turn out to be ‘negative’, we on this forum all know that in that case, it could only be because of commercial reasons, but not because your technology doesn’t work or isn’t valuable for the world. And because of the human influence in the present climate change, and the fact that the present nuclear technology is not good enough (because of safety and environmental issues) the world needs your technology very badly! So, even if the results would be ‘negative’, we on this forum know that this could only be for commercial reasons, and that you already have a product that – in that case- is almost ready for the market, so you and/or other researchers have to go on with your R&D work than!

  130. Andrea Rossi

    Daniel De Caluwé:
    I did not say that. The results could be positive or negative and the implications in both cases will be relevant. In what measure I am not able to say, will depend on the results.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  131. Angel Blume

    Dear Mr. Rossi

    I wonder if you could answer following questions.

    1.-Is the so called Rossi effect explainable through the Standard Model?
    2.-Having Ni60 the maximal binding energy, are you working with any other Ni stable isotope?

  132. Andrea Rossi

    Angel Blume:
    1- yes
    2- confidential
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  133. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    I understand that for certain reasons you must appear impartial about the potential results – positive or negative – of the recent testing. However, in my own personal opinion, the E-Cat technology has already proven to be real. Even if the test results turned out to be negative, the E-Cat technology has already been proven to work:

    1 – In dozens of previous tests, many of which were conducted or monitored by third parties.

    2 – In many different form factors ranging from the size if a D Cell battery to a two liter soda bottle.

    3 – Using many different types of caloremetry including tests heating water, heating air, messuring IR radiation being emitted, etc.

    4 – In constant powered mode, intermittent powered mode, and self sustained mode in which the output continued for many hours with no input.

    5 – In tests conducted at different locations.

    The simple truth is that the E-Cat works. Regardless as to the upcoming report, there can be no reasonable doubt of this. There is a tiny chance of course that the reactors you sent for the recent testing may have not produced any excess power due to fuel contamination. But even if they didn’t, the tech as a whole would still work.

    What I want to see happen is the world wake up to the fact that the ideal power source for the next several hundred years has arrived. There is a lot of engineering and R and D that must be done. But when a fraction of the funding that goes into wind or solar power starts going into the E-Cat, all of these issues will be resolved.

  134. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    Our funding will come from the Customers, if the plants will operate profitably.
    Thank you for your kind words.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  135. Tom Conover

    Dear Andrea,

    I hear you saying “The data related to the 1 MW plant ” (that is now) ” in the factory of the Customer of Industrial Heat …” to Eernie1 and I just have to smile at the progress you continue to make!!

    Godspeed, my friend.

    Tom Conover

  136. Andrea Rossi

    Tom Conover:
    Thank you!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  137. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    At this time I presume you and your team have been operating the factory unit for a lengthy time(more than a month). Have you run into unexpected bugs(problems)? If so, have they been eliminated? In my experience with many startups,there have been problems(mostly minor) with all of them. Expect them and you will not be disappointed.
    Bona Fortuna!!!

  138. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    The data related to the 1 MW plant in the factory of the Customer of Industrial Heat will be published in due time. Until then we will be under NDA.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  139. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe,
    one last remark:

    Look the difference between the acceleration and deceleration in the 3 cases:

    1) Free electron being accelerated (or decelerated) in Euclidian space:
    The electron is submtted to an electromagnetic force aplied on the same direction (or in contrary direction) of the motion

    2) Electron in the atom model of Quantum Mechanics:
    The electron is submitted to the electromagnetic force due to the proton in the same direction (or contrary direction) of the motion when the electron moves in the radial direction.

    3) Electron in the atom model of Quantum Ring Theory:
    Moving in circular trajectory in the levels n=1, n=2, n=3, etc., the electron is NOT submitted to any electromagnetic force in the same direction (or contrary direction) of the motion.
    Therefore, when the energy of the photon absorbed (or emitted) by the atom is transferred to the electron, there is NOT any force applied on the electron toward the direction (or contrary the direction) of its motion.
    In the case of emission of photon, it is not the electromagnetic field of the proton which emits the photon when the electron decelerates because of the emission of the photon (unlike, in the case of free electron decelerating in the Euclidian space, the emission of photon is due to the electromagnetic field applied on the electron).

    regards
    wlad

  140. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in August 17th, 2014 at 2:24 AM

    Wladimir,

    Let me re-phrase my last question:

    In QRT, since either a positive or a negative change in radius R of the helical trajectory of an electron results in energy (in the form of photons) being emitted only, what happens to radius R when energy (from a photon or anything else) is absorbed by the electron?
    ============================================

    COMMENT

    Joe,
    considering an Euclidian space (not into the atom), we have the following for the change in the radius R of the helical trajectory:

    a) When there is shrinkage in the radius R (acceleration of the electron), the electromagnetic field is in front of the motion, applying a force in the direction of the motion. The photons are created by the energy of the electromagnetic field.

    b)In the case of the growth of the radius R (deceleration of the electron) there is an electromagnetic field at the back of the electron’s motion, applying a force against the force. The photons also are created by the energy of the electromagnetic field.

    The energy from which the photons are emitted is not of the electron

    Considering into the atom, we have:

    In the case of a photons emitted or absorbed by an atom, as I said the energy will be extracted or supplied only for electrons moving in a circular orbit about the proton (levels n=1, n=2, n=3, etc.).

    The gradient of aether density exists only in RADIAL direction within the electrosphere.
    Moving in CIRCULAR orbit, there is not gradiente density of the aether. The electron’s motion occurs as if it had been moving in an Euclidian space.

    a) When the electron moving in circular orbit the atom absorbs a photon, the energy of the photon is absorbed by the electron, it has acceleration, and the radius R has a shrinkage

    b) When the electron moving in circular orbit and the atom emits a photon, the electron loses that energy of the photon, it has deceleration, and the radius R has a growth.

    .

    But pay attention that the situation within the atom is different than for a free electron being accelerated by an electromagnetic field, because:

    1) Into the atom the energy of the photon (absorbed or emitted by the atom) changes the kinetic energy of the electron

    2) For a free electron, the change of the kinetic energy of the electron is due to the electromagnetic field applied, which changes the electron velocity and at the same time emits photons.

    .

    Note also that, when the electron moves in RADIAL direction in the electrosphere of an atom, there is not emission of photons.

    Probably the energy of a photon absorbed does not change directly the kinetic energy of motion of the electron. The mechanism can be the following:
    1) The energy of the photon accelerates the velocity of the spin of the electron (increases its kinetic energy of spin).
    2) The kinetic energy of spin is transfered to kinetic energy of motion, and the electron restaures the original speed of its spin

    In the case of a photon emitted by the atom, and the electron moving with speed V, we have:
    1) Firstly there is a decrease in the velocity of the electron’s spin
    2) In sequence the electron absorbs energy from is kinetic energy of motion, decreasing the speed V, and restaures the speed of the spin.

    Joe,
    note the difference between the two models of hydrogen atoms:

    a) In the case of Quantum Mechanics, as the space is Euclidian into the atom, there is the force of the electromagnetic field of the proton actuating on the electron (like happens in the case of a free electron moving along an Euclidian space, and accelerated by an electromagnetic field)..
    That’s why the electron needs to emit energy if it moves between two levels, in radial direction.

    b) In the case of Quantum Ring Theory, as the space is non-Euclidian into the atom, the force of the electromagnetic field of the proton is canceled by the gradient of the aether.
    Therefore, the emission and absorption of the energy of photons by the electrons happens in a different way of that considered in Quantum Mechanics, where the electron is under the influence of the electromagnetic force due to the field of the proton.

    regards
    wlad

  141. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Yes, we have doubtless reached good results in past, but not enough.
    You are right: let’s wait patiently. It will not be for ever…
    Warmest Regards,
    A.R.

  142. Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi:

    I discussed this with other people on Facebook, and I conclude you may have meant…. ” it is ‘too’ soon to make claims of results that have not yet been achieved.” Please keep working and achieve these results, preferably positive.

    Why not claim the results that have already been achieved?

    Patient regards,

    Joseph Fine

  143. Joe

    Wladimir,

    Let me re-phrase my last question:

    In QRT, since either a positive or a negative change in radius R of the helical trajectory of an electron results in energy (in the form of photons) being emitted only, what happens to radius R when energy (from a photon or anything else) is absorbed by the electron?

    All the best,
    Joe

  144. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Thank you for your correction.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  145. Joseph Fine

    Andrea,

    In your reply to Hank Mills, you suggest there may soon be “claims of results that have not yet been achieved”. With the greatest respect, I think this means there may soon be “claims of results that have not been achieved before”, rather than claims of results that no one has achieved.

    I apologize for being picky. But this is only a matter of words, not Physics.

    Grammatical regards,

    Joseph

  146. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in August 16th, 2014 at 4:37 PM

    Wladimir,

    In QRT, since only emission of a photon occurs with either a positive or a negative change in the radius R of the helical trajectory of the electron, what happens to this radius R when a photon is absorbed instead of emitted? Logically, should not R remain unaffected? If so, then what is the mechanism for electrons absorbing photons in QRT?

    All the best,
    Joe
    =========================================

    Joe,
    electrons do not absorb photons.

    Photons are absorbed by atoms.
    It’s a process of resonance, involving the proton (considering hydrogen atom), the aether of the electrosphere, and the helical trajectory of the electron.
    Probably the electromagnetic energy of the photon is captured by the aether, and trasnformed in kinetic energy of the electron.

    The electron does not capture the electromagnetic energy of the photon when the electron is moving in radial direction within the electrosphere. The electron is not able to do it.

    The electron captures the energy of the photons only when the electron is moving about the proton, in the fundamental status n=1, or in circular trajectory at other levels n=2, n=3, etc.

    Any photon absorbed in a level (for instance n=2 ) must have the same wavelength of the photon emitted in that level ( n=2 in our example here).
    Photons of other wavelength are not absorbed in that level n=2. This explain the spectrum of absorption, discovered by William Hyde Wollaston in 1802 and rediscovered by Fraunhofer in 1814:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraunhofer_lines

    regards
    wlad

  147. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    In addition to the E-Cat not requiring sunlight or wind it has another huge benefit: compactness and/or power denisity. A significant portion of the cost of a solar installation is the mounting. Solar and wind generators need large areas of space. Proponents of solar power forget that there is no way for a car (even with every inch covered with hypothetical, 100% efficency solar panels) to run continuously using solar. A Tesla Roadster, for example, would have to tow a trailer with hundreds of panels to continually drive a normal speeds.

    The E-Cat, however, can produce huge amounts of power from a compact space. An E-Cat generator could fit under the hood of a car, in a closet, or in a shed. Producing 10kw, or more, from something the size of a two liter soda bottle is amazing. Even adding volume for a generator to convert heat to electricity, the power density is still large.

    So in addition to 24/7 operation, the compactness is also a benefit.

  148. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    Please remind that the report of the Third Independent Party is still under discussion as well as the analysis of the data; also the industrial plant needs a long period of validation; as a consequence of these considerations, we must be well aware of the fact that the results could be positive or negative. Substantial R&D is also on course. We are working at the maximum level allowed by our force, but it is soon to make claims of results that have not yet been achieved.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  149. Joe

    Wladimir,

    In QRT, since only emission of a photon occurs with either a positive or a negative change in the radius R of the helical trajectory of the electron, what happens to this radius R when a photon is absorbed instead of emitted? Logically, should not R remain unaffected? If so, then what is the mechanism for electrons absorbing photons in QRT?

    All the best,
    Joe

  150. BroKeeper

    Dear Andrea,

    With the advent of new Wind Farms like that pointed out by Robert Curto and Solar Farms built in the West could you and IH provide?:

    1. An Estimated ‘Levelized’ Cost of Electricity (LCOE) for HT E-CAT plants vs. the “Levelized Cost and Levelized Avoided Cost of New Generation Resources in the Annual Energy Outlook 2014″ listed by National Energy Modeling System (NEMS) projections for 2019 (if not exact then a questimate)?
    http://www.eia.gov/forecasts/aeo/electricity_generation.cfm

    2. The Pros and Cons, other than cost, the HT E-Cat would have next to other low cost energy sources, specifically the renewable sources with the understanding we need all of them.

    With much respect, BK

  151. Andrea Rossi

    BroKeeper:
    1- We will be able to give these data when we will produce electric energy.
    2- If the renewable energy sources you are referring to are the ones without emissions like windmills or solar, the competition will be exclusively based upon economic considerations, taking in account the independence of the E-Cat from metheorological conditions ( wind force, “sunnity” , etc.). We will be able to make a comparative analysis when we will have an actual plant making electric energy.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  152. Bob

    Dear Andrea Rossi

    Have you ever made videorecordings inside an e-cat chamber while the e-cat is in operation?

    If yes, can a video clearly show the so-called Rossi effect as it occurs.

    Thanks

    Bob

  153. Andrea Rossi

    Bob:
    Impossible to videotape.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  154. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in August 15th, 2014 at 10:02 PM

    Wladimir,

    On August 15th, 2014 at 3:45 PM, you ask the following:

    “Why the spin of the secondary fields Sn(p) of proton and Sn(e) of electron do not induce magnetic moments?”

    Since the electron and the proton do exhibit magnetic dipole moments, what is their cause then – the primary fields Sp(e) and Sp(p)?

    All the best,
    Joe
    ===========================================================

    COMMNENT

    Joe
    the radius of the fields Sn(e) and Sn(p) have the magnitude of the Bohr radius, R=10^-11 m.

    It’s a very large radius.

    If the spin of Sn(e) had magnetic moment, it would be in the order of magnitude several times larger than the electron’s magnetic moment measured in the experiments.

    The neutron is formed by proton+electron

    But the magnetic moment of the electron is 1000 times stronger than that of the neutron, and one could expect that the magnetic moment of the neutron would have to be 1000tims stronger that that measered in the experiments, by considering a model n=p+3.

    However, when the electron is captured by the proton, and they form the neutron, the electron loses its helical trajectory, and it loses its spin 1/2 (that’s why the neutron has spin 1/2)>
    So, we conclude that the electron’s magnetic moment is due to its helical trajectory.

    The hypothesis that electron’s magnetic moment and its spin is consequence of its helical trajectory was origanlly supposed by Schroedinger:

    ==============================================
    1. INTRODUCTION
    The idea that the electron spin and magnetic moment are generated by a localized circulatory motion of the electron has been proposed independently by many physicists.
    Schroedinger’s zitterbewegung (zbw) model for such motion is especially noteworthy, because it is grounded in an analysis of solutions to the Dirac equation.

    The Zitterbewegung Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics
    http://geocalc.clas.asu.edu/pdf-preAdobe8/ZBW_I_QM.pdf

    ===============================================

    regards
    wlad

  155. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in August 15th, 2014 at 7:34 PM

    Wladimir,

    In QRT, why is there only EMISSION of energy when an electron undergoes either acceleration or deceleration in a vacuum? Should not one of these two conditions necessitate an ABSORPTION of energy instead? The following is your quote from August 14th, 2014 at 7:16 PM:

    “In the instant when occurs the reduction ∆R in the radius of the helical trajectory, there is emission of energy, according to Maxwell’s law.

    “The same happens when the electron is decelerated, but energy is emitted with the radius of the helical trajectory grows.”

    All the best,
    Joe
    ======================================================

    Why/how does an electron emit a photon when decelerating?
    http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/29877/why-how-does-an-electron-emit-a-photon-when-decelerating

  156. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear Andrea,
    because I was unable to formulate a question, I try with a more direct question:
    what the heck do you mean by “quantum reactions”?
    Quantum Rergards,
    Giuliano Bettini.

  157. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    Changements in quantic status of elementary particles. Quanta are discrete and undivisible quantities of energy: you cannot divide energy infinitely, because at a certain point you arrive to an amount of energy that cannot be further divided: this is a “quantum” ( discovered by Planck) and gives name to the “Quantum Mechanics” as well as to the “Quantum Field Theory”. Imagine to see a car going away from you in the night: you will see the red lights get dimmer while it goes away and away…should you have an unlimited view, at a certain point you could see that arrived at a certain amount of light you could have no more the possibility to see it get dimmer, because all at a time you could see no light at all; it should be possible to see the same amount of light just making the car get closer a distance as small as you want: like when you use a switch to turn on a lamp, you have that amount of light, or you have no light, there are no possibilities to get a fraction of it: that’s a quantum ( a photon). Changements in quantic status determine energy transmission.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    p.s. “Quantum Regards” you granted me is a very small amount of regard, I would say: it’s is the mimimum possible regard you can reserve! ( he,he,he…)

  158. Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi, they plan to build a 3,000 MW Wind Farm for 6 billion
    dollars.
    Plus they have to build a 725 mile power line, for 3 billion dollars, to get the power to where it is needed.
    You can Google:
    LARGEST WIND FARM APPROVED IN WYOMING
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA

  159. Andrea Rossi

    Robert Curto:
    Thanks for the info,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  160. Joe

    Wladimir,

    On August 15th, 2014 at 3:45 PM, you ask the following:

    “Why the spin of the secondary fields Sn(p) of proton and Sn(e) of electron do not induce magnetic moments?”

    Since the electron and the proton do exhibit magnetic dipole moments, what is their cause then – the primary fields Sp(e) and Sp(p)?

    All the best,
    Joe

  161. Daniel De Caluwé

    Dear Readers,

    Although dr. Rossi can explain the Rossi Effect with present quantum fields theory, and although he doesn’t need a revolution in science, on this forum and with the E-cat of dr. Rossi, we’re not only witnessing a big revolution in energy technology, but with the messages of dr. Guglinsky also a revolution in science, and I would suggest: mark these pages in your favourites: ;-)

    http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=853&cpage=9#comment-987216

    http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=853&cpage=9#comment-987498

    http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=853&cpage=9#comment-987537

    http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=853&cpage=9#comment-987815

    So, thank you very much to both!

  162. Joe

    Wladimir,

    In QRT, why is there only EMISSION of energy when an electron undergoes either acceleration or deceleration in a vacuum? Should not one of these two conditions necessitate an ABSORPTION of energy instead? The following is your quote from August 14th, 2014 at 7:16 PM:

    “In the instant when occurs the reduction ∆R in the radius of the helical trajectory, there is emission of energy, according to Maxwell’s law.

    “The same happens when the electron is decelerated, but energy is emitted with the radius of the helical trajectory grows.”

    All the best,
    Joe

  163. Wladimir Guglinski

    Causality violated by the atom model of Quantum Mechanics

    Dear Joe

    In my book “Os Dados que Deus Escondeu” (The Dice God Hid) published in 2003 in Brazil, in the Introduction it is explained why the atom model of Quantum Mechanics violates the causality.
    Os Dados que Deus Escondeu
    http://bodigaya.com.br/index.php/os-dados-que-deus-escondeu.html

    Let me give a little idea why there is violation of the causality.

    According to QM the atom emits photons when the electron changes its position from a level to another. The electron can, for instance, to go from n=1 to n=2, or from n=2 to n=4, or from n=1 to n=3, or from n=4 to n=1, etc.

    But there is not, in QM, any cause responsible for some specific sequence. For instance, why sometimes does the electron go from n=1 to n=2, and sometimes it goes from n=1 to n=4? From the theory there is no way to find the physical cause for the reason why, from a starting point at the same initial level n=1, sometimes the electron goes to n=2, sometimes it goes to n=3, and sometimes it goes to n=4.

    Bohr proposed the selection rules so that to describe that “statistical” behavior of the electron. However it is only a mathematical description. The cause of the sequence of the jumpings is not pointed out.

    Suppose some atom A has the following sequence of six jumpings:
    1) From n=1 to n=3
    2) From n=3 to n=2
    3) From n=2 to n=4
    4) From n=4 to n=2
    5) From n=2 to n=3
    6) From n=3 to n=1
    7) … and the sequence is ended, and it starts again, and it is repeated again, and again, and again…

    What the cause of such a sequence is?
    As Quantum Mechanics works via statistical laws, we dont have to expect any specific sequence when the electron moves from a level to another. According to the model of Quantum Mechanics, the sequence would have to be chaotic, and never repeated again. However, we know from experiments that, for the atom A considered above, the sequence is repeated indefinitely forever.

    Suppose we take a die, and in the first of its side we write 1, in the second side we write 2, and so one, til to write 6 in the sixth side.
    If we start to throw the die, it will give a chaotic sequence of extractions, for instance as follows: 5-3-5-2-1-4-3-6-6-4-2-1-5-4-3-6-2-6-4-5-…

    There is not any repetition in the sequence. This is just the sequence which the model of the atom A, according to Quantum Mechanics, had to have.

    Suppose that we want to build a die able to give the following sequence:
    1) first extraction = 1
    2) second extraction = 3
    3) third extraction = 2
    4) fourth extaction = 4
    5) Fifth extraction = 2
    6) sixth extraction = 3
    7) seventh extraction = 1… , and so we realize that it is the sequence of emission of photons by the atom A.

    Continuing to throw the die, it will repeat again the same sequence, and the sequence is never stopped.

    How can we do it?
    Well, we can to get it, for instance, by installing an apparatus within the die (with springs and an iron sphere moving within channels), so that it will follow the wished sequence.

    QUESTION: What is the difference of such die and the atom model of Quantum Mechanics?

    RESPONSE: The difference is because while the die has a physical device responsible for the extractions always in the same sequence , unlike the atom model of Quantum Mechanics has not any physical device capable to produce always the same sequence of photons emission observed in the experiments.

    So, Quantum Mechanics is phantasmagoric. It works without physical causes.

    .

    Why the spin of the secondary fields Sn(p) of proton and Sn(e) of electron do not induce magnetic moments

    Joe,
    do you remember our discussion about the rotation of the secondary field Sn , here in the JoNP ?
    Along the discussion I had explained that the spin of the field Sn does not induce magnetic moment.

    Ahead is a stretch of the paper Aether Structure for unification between gravity and electromagnetism, submitted for publication in JoNP, showing the reason why the spin of the field Sn does not induce magnetic moment:

    Page 8 of he paper ========================================

    We see in the figure 4.2:

    1- The red electriciton e(+) with orbit radius R= n2 has spin-down and is situated in a region of aether density proportinal to n=1.

    2- The red electriciton e(+) with orbit radius R= 1 has spin-up and is situated in a region of aether density proportional to n2.

    So, the magnetic moment due to the rotation of the field Sn(p) is null, because the two red electricitons in the Fig. 4.2 induce magnetic moments with the same value but with contrary signs.

    Figure 4.2:
    http://peswiki.com/index.php/Image:STRUCTURE_OF_THE_FIELD_Sn%28p%29_of_the_proton.png
    ==============================================

    .

    The physical cause of the sequence of jumpings in the atom model of Quantum Ring Theory

    As we realize from the Figure 4.2, the spin of the secondary field Sn does not induce magnetic moment because of the symmetry of the field.

    Therefore, when the electron is moving within the electrosphere of a proton in a RADIAL direction (moving far away of the proton or, unlike, going to the proton’s direction), the spin Sn(e) of the electron has no magnetic moment. So, when the electron is going in the RADIAL direction, the only existing force of attraction proton-electron due to their electric charges is the Coulomb attraction.

    But what does happens when the electron is moving in circular trajectory about the proton?
    Well, in this case the symmetry of the field Sn(e) of the electron is broken, and then from the Fig. 4.2 we realize that a BIG MAGNETIC moment is induced by the spin of the field Sn(e).

    With the electron moving in circular trajectory about the proton, the electron is submitted to two forces:
    a) the attraction proton-electron (Coulomb attraction and attraction due to the BIG magnetic moment of the field Sn(e) )
    b) the centripetal force trying to expel the electron

    If the electron had not being attracted by the BIG magnetic moment, quickly the centripetal force would win the dispute, and the electron would not be able to storage a big energy enough to allow the electron to do several sequence of consecutives jumpings about the proton.
    Thanks to the contribution of the BIG magnetic attraction due to the spin of the field Sn(e), the electron stores a big kinetic energy of motion and of kinetic energy of its spin Sn(e). These two energy are liberated when the electron arrives to the many levels n=1, n=2, n=3, n=4, etc.
    By losing energy after a sequence of consecutive jumpings, in the next big jumping the sequence will be different, because the condictions have changed, thanks to the waste of energy. And when the energy is totally wasted in the emission of photons after many big jumpings , the electron goes back to move about the proton again, so that to storage kinetic energy again, in order to do again a new sequence of several consecutive big jumpings.

    The several different sequence of jumpings, as for instance from n=1 to n=4, n=2 to n=3, n=3 to n=1, etc., is consequence the physical mechanism explained here.
    Of course there are many other details. For instance, the emission of photons is consequence (among other reasons) of the resonance between the pitch of the helical trajectory of the electron and the gradient ∆d of the aether density within the electrosphere of the atom (each atom has its specific ∆d ).

    Joe,
    looking at the incoherences of Quantum Mechanics (as for instance the violation of the causality principle), one must be astonished face to the fact that the physicists do not worry about them. In spite of so many incoherences point out that Quantum Mechanics cannot be the definitive description of the Nature, the physicists never show interest to discuss such questions and recognize that Quantum Mechanics is wrong, and why do not have interest to consider new theories with new principles missing in Quantum Mechanics.

    I really don’t understand such a missing of interest in fundamental questions which prove that Quantum Mechanics was developed from wrong foundations.
    Regards
    Wlad

  164. Lata

    Hi Andrea,
    Congratulations on getting the safety certificate. I think a home e-cat convection oven or e-cat powered microwave oven will be even more useful than home heater. In warmer climates, you don’t need a heater. But everybody needs to cook. Can we expect to see?

    1. A home e-cat convection oven within one year.
    2. A home e-cat microwave oven within two years.

    Regards,
    Lata

  165. Andrea Rossi

    Lata:
    We did not get, so far, the safety certification for any domestic application.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  166. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear Andrea,
    to “ask a precise question” of what you mean for quantum reactions, QUAR.
    I scratched my head wondering what a question “without asking what happens inside the reactor” can be.
    However on other occasions you wrote:
    “In the quantum field theory, elementary particles are tiny vibrating waves in a particular field and interactions are between elementary particles in fields; forces carried in their interactions by means of bosons can be thought of as resulting from vibrations in fields.”
    And regarding the Rossi effect and excess heat achieved in other systems, you spoke about:
    “vibrations in the QUAR (or, if you prefer, LENR)field”.
    So I would say: for “quantum reaction” you mean specifically
    “reactions involving elementary particles and transmutations of them”?
    Best regards,
    Giuliano Bettini.

  167. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    The phrase “…vibrations in the QUAR …” was a smile, referred to the fact that we all work in that field…I was just comparing us to elementary particles!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  168. Wladimir Guglinski

    Energy emission by an electric charge accelerated following Maxweel’s law

    Joe,
    along the years I had already imagined several mechanisms, in order to explain why the electron does not emit energy when it travels the space between two levels in the atom.
    Let me explain to you my last conclusion.
    In order to simplify the explanation, we will consider the hydrogen atom.

    1) A free electric charge with acceleration in the vaccuum

    Consider an electron moving with constant speed V in the vacuum, and suppose that its helical trajectory has a radius R.

    Suppose an electromagnetic force apply an acceleration on the electron.
    The electron does not change its speed continously. Instead of, it speed grows by discrete quanta ∆V.

    The elementary particles are constrained to move with helical trajectory subjected to the following law, proposed in Quantum Ring Theory:
    =========================================================================
    It is constant the flux the aether crossing within the helical trajectory
    =========================================================================

    This happens also with the photon, as shown in my book QRT. That’s why the photon reduces its speed from c in the vaccum to V in the translucent substances as water and glass.

    Then let us analyse the acceleration of the electron in the vaccum.
    The electromagnetic force applies an increase ∆V in the velocity V. In order to keep constant the flux of aether crossing its helical trajectory, its radius R has a reduction ∆R.

    In the instant when occurs the reduction ∆R in the radius of the helical trajectory, there is emission of energy, according to Maxweel’s law.

    The same happens when the electron is decelerated, but energy is emitted with the radius of the helical trajectory grows.

    2) Electron moving between levels in the atom according to Quantum Mechanics
    The space of the electrosphere of atoms according to QM is Euclidian, and therefore under the force of attraction with the proton, the electron is accelerated, and emit energy, as happens with the electron moving in the vacuum, as already explained.

    3) Electron moving between levels in the electrosphere with aether
    The gradient of growth in the density of the aether is not continous. Actually it grows with discrete quanta ∆d.
    Each atom has its particular quantum ∆d. The hydrogen has its quantum ∆d, the helium has its quantum ∆d, etc.

    Now consider the aether involving the proton, but suppose that the proton is removed from there, in order that it remains only its electrosphere with that aether.

    And consider that an electron with speed V, comming from the vacuum, enters within that electrosphere of the hydrogen atom (without the proton, since it was removed).

    Well, when the electron enters in that electrosphere, it starts to face an aether with gradient ∆d.
    When the electron touches the first ∆d, in order to keep constant the flux of aether within its helical trajectory, the speed of the electron has a decrease ∆V.

    So, it happens as if the electron was submitted to a force Fa due to the aether applying a deceleration on the electron.
    And pay attention that, in spite of the electron is decelerated, there is no emission of energy, because the electron keeps the radius R of its helical trajectory.

    Therefore the electron continues moving with decelerated motion toward the direction where the proton was before removed.

    Now let us put the proton again in his place into the electrosphere where the electron is moving with decelerated motion.
    As the proton applies a force Fp on the electron, in this new situation the electron is submitted to two forces:
    1- Fa due to the aether trying to decelerate it
    2- The attraction force Fp of the proton trying to accelerate it

    The force Fa of the aether on the electron depends on the gradient ∆d of the proton, and therefore Fa is equal to Fp, and as they are applied on contrary direction, then the electron is actually submitted to a null force, and the atom does not emit energy when the electron moves between to levels.

    In the regions of the electrosphere far away of the proton, the density of the aether has a gradient ∆d very low, and therefore the electron is accelerated toward the proton emitting energy. But when the electron enters in the region where the gradient ∆d is high, the acceleration ceases, and the electron starts to move with constant speed.

    Moving about the proton in the level n=1, the atom captures energy from the enviroment and the electron starts to gyrate faster about the proton, and it jumps when the centripetal force wins the dispute against the force of attraction trying to keep the electron in the level n=1.

    regards
    wlad

  169. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    I have another theory for LENR that may make some sense. It has been proposed that, the lowest allowed (by standard QM )electron orbit of Hydrogen, can be forced into a lower orbit by an external negative force(concentrated plasma electron cluster). This allows the new orbit to assume extra energy from the H nucleus because of its closer proximity and subsequently release the energy to provide over unity energy. However, the same effect can be accomplished using the negative fields of a H- ion imposed upon the electron cloud of the Nickel atom trapped in a crystal lattice, forcing the inner electrons closer to the Nickel nucleus and allowing them to assume energy from the interaction with the nuclear forces(strong or weak). When the amount of assumed energy exceeds a critical level, the electron emits the extra energy(returning to its original orbit) into the lattice in the form of photons that interact with the lattice to produce phonons. The nucleus balances this lost energy by rearranging their inner nucleons, producing some type of transmutation and emission of particles(Beta+-).

  170. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in August 14th, 2014 at 12:27 AM

    Wladimir,

    For an object to go from a state of zero velocity to nonzero velocity means that there is a change in velocity with time. This is the definition of acceleration. And acceleration is due to a nonzero resultant force acting on that object. Therefore, an electron going from one energy level (zero radial velocity) to another energy level (zero radial velocity) requires a positive and negative acceleration respectively. This requires a nonzero positive and negative resultant force acting on the electron respectively. In QRT, since a smooth gradient of aether is responsible for nullifying the smooth field of the electrostatic force of the nucleus (allowing only constant velocity between energy levels in the electrosphere), how is this smoothness destroyed at the various energy levels in order to allow nonzero resultant forces to occur there?

    All the best,
    Joe
    ================================================

    Joe,
    the description made by me in the post entitled Definitive breakdown of the Quantum Mechanics is actually a simplified explanation, because the mechaninisms within the electrosphere are actually more complex. For instance, there is the participation of the helical tajectory.

    When the electron moves between two levels with constant speed, the resultant of forces on it is zero, and the electron moves thanks to its inertia (before to jump from n=1 to n=2, for instance, the electron stays in the orbit n=2 increasing its velocity, thanks to the absoprtion of photons by the atom).
    The electron moving about the proton in circular motion would have to emit energy, from the classical physics. However, as shown in my book Quantum Ring Theory, because of the helical trajectory the electron does not emit energy, also bececause of the gradient of the aether.

    When is moving far away of the proton, the pitch of the helix increases, because the density of the aether decreases.
    With the electon coming from n=1, the photon is emitted in n=2 thanks to a resonance between the pitch of the helix and the distance proton-electron and also the velocity of the electron, and it occurs in the points with radius R= 2², R= 3² , 4² , etc. (the size of the pitch depends on the velocity).

    When the velocity is slow, the resonance does no occur, and the electron passes by the level n=2 without emitting photon, and it emits the photon in the level n=3 or n=4.

    Moving in circular orbit in the level n=1, there is a Coulomb attraction proton-electron, and there are two sort of energy to be accumulated: the kinetic energy due to its velocity, and the kinetic energy thanks to its spin (the spin is also quantized, and it produces a magnetic field increasing the force of attraction proton-electron).

    When the electron is coming back after the first big jumping, for instance jumping between n=4 to n=2, the kinetic energy of its spin is changed to the form of kinetic energy of motion 0,5m.V² when it passes by the level n=2. As the spin lost a portion of its energy, the rotation of the spin decreases, and so decreases the additional magnetic moment due to the spin, in order that now the electron will do a second big jumping, however with a lower level of energy than it did in the first jumping.
    As the magnetic attraction proton-electron decreased, the centripetal force wins the dispute, and the electron makes its second jump from n=2 to n=3.

    The additional magnetic field due to the spin changes drastically the state of the aether in the electrosphere, in order that each big jumping occurs in a particular condiction of the aether.

    When moving in circular orbit about the proton in n=1, the electron accumulates energy for many consecutive jumps. When the capacity of the electron to acummulate energy is satured, the centripetal force wins the dispute, and the electron jumps, doing several consecutive jumpings (emitting photons in going and coming.

    There are many other details, as for instance concerning the forces on the electron, because as the Sn(e)-spin of an electron into the atom produces an additional magnetic field, when the field Sn((e) suffers variation in its angular speed, the variation of magnetic intensity has influence on the frequency of photon emission.

    regards
    wlad

  171. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    Congratulations on the safety certification of the hot cat reactors. That is an important accomplishment. Of course from everything we know about how they work, there was no doubt as to their safety.

    1 – Regardless as to the actual temperatures hot cats are capable of reaching, what is the temperature range they are certified, safety wise, to function within? This is simply the numbers on the certificate, of course, and has nothing to do with what the upcoming third party report may disclose, positive or negative.

    2 – Are there any other types of certification required or legal hoops to go through before low or high temp E-Cats can be used in an industrial setting?

    3 – When the third independent party report is released, do you plan to present your understanding of the theory of how the E-Cat operates, separately of any theory that may be in the report?

    4 – Have you been communicating with members of the team preparing the report to formulate a joint theory on the E-Cat?

    5 – To me, it is pretty obvious the upcoming report will show massive anomalous heat production (although as you say the report could be negative). In addition to excess heat and high COP, what else are you hoping to see in the report?

    Thank you.

  172. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    1- the data of the safety certification are restricted to the Customers
    2- depends on specific situations
    3- sooner or later we will be able to. Depends on the IP issues and situation
    4- what is discussed in our team, when it becomes an issue to be published, is published, in due time
    5- difficult to say
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  173. Dima Redko

    Dear Andrea!
    You mention that your modules of E-cats and Hot-cats have been certified, that’s great news! Does it mean that Home ECAT-units are certified too, since they are basicaly single E-cats, or Home ECats require different certification? If so, when might we hope to expect this happen?

  174. Andrea Rossi

    Dima Redko:
    The safety certifications we obtained are strictly referred to industrial plants, for the reasons I many times explained. Our plants can work only if operated by professionally prepared employees that have to be certified by us.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  175. Joe

    Wladimir,

    For an object to go from a state of zero velocity to nonzero velocity means that there is a change in velocity with time. This is the definition of acceleration. And acceleration is due to a nonzero resultant force acting on that object. Therefore, an electron going from one energy level (zero radial velocity) to another energy level (zero radial velocity) requires a positive and negative acceleration respectively. This requires a nonzero positive and negative resultant force acting on the electron respectively. In QRT, since a smooth gradient of aether is responsible for nullifying the smooth field of the electrostatic force of the nucleus (allowing only constant velocity between energy levels in the electrosphere), how is this smoothness destroyed at the various energy levels in order to allow nonzero resultant forces to occur there?

    All the best,
    Joe

  176. Wladimir Guglinski

    How God wrote eCat in a mysterious way

    Ahead is a discussion between Andrea Rossi, Wlad, Mr. Joe, Mr. JR, and Mr. Curiosone, in the Rossi’s blog Journal of Nuclear Physics.

    http://zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3566&mode=&order=0&thold=0

    .

  177. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Have you considered using nickel-plated carbon nanotubes. They are commercially available at about $1,600 per 100 grams. Specs follow:
    60% Ni/38% MWNT (95+%, OD 8-15 nm)
    $180/5g
    $630/25g
    $1,575/100g

    Nickel-coated multi-walled carbon nanotubes
    Nickel content: ~ 60 wt%
    Carbon nanotube content: ~ 38 wt%

    Specification of carbon nanotubes:
    Outside diameter: 8-15 nm
    Inside diameter: 3-5 nm
    Length: 10-50 um
    SSA: ~ 230 m2/g

    My thoughts are that hydrogen molecules might more easily disassociate to form atomic hydrogen within the nanotubes and be directly exposed to the nickel with application of heat.

  178. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    I cannot give this kind of information, either in positive or in negative.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  179. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    It would seem that to have both E-Cats and Hot Cats certified is significant news.

    From Industrial Heat’s perspective, what does this certification now make possible for you?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  180. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    We obtained a Safety certification. Is necessary for the development of industrial plants made by Hot Cats.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  181. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    The most important item that can come from your work is not the new devices you produce. Although they are important, humanity can survive without them since it is obvious now that there is enough available energy sources on earth from various sources to sustain our needs for as long as the sun shines.
    What is more important is the knowledge that stems from your work. This can open the door to a large number of new devices that can benefit man in the future. As the saying goes “You can give a man a fish and he will not be hungry for a day. But show a man how to fish and he will never be hungry”.
    I think that if your device is shown to work, you will be better known for discovering the Rossi effect than for developing the E-cat.

  182. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Thank you.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  183. Wladimir Guglinski

    DEFINITIVE BREAKDOWN OF THE QUANTUM MECHANICS

    The new experiment published by the journal Nature in the end of 2014 represents the definitive breakdown of Quantum Mechanics, as explained ahead.

    1) How photons are emitted by atoms according to Quantum Mechanics

    According to the Quantum Mechanics, into the electrosphere of the atoms the electrons do not travel the space between two levels n and n+1. According to the theory, the electron disappears in the level n, and it appears instantaneously in the level n+1, without traveling along the space which separate the two levels.

    The reason why the electron does not travel the space between the two levels in the atom is easy to be understood, and it is consequence of the assumptions adopted in the development of the Quantum Mechanics, as seeing ahead :

    a) The space within the electrosphere of atoms is considered Euclidian
    b) There is Coulomb attraction between the proton and the electron
    c) Therefore, if the space between two levels had been travelled by the electron, it would have to be accelerated, because it is submitted to the force of attraction
    d) By having acceleration, the electron would have to emit energy when moving in that space between the levels, according to the Maxwell’s law (continuous emission).
    e) However, the experiments show that the atom does not emit energy continuously, but actually it emits discrete packages of energy (photons) only when the electron arrives to the points of emission in the levels n=1, 2, 3.. , etc.
    f) Therefore, according to Quantum Mechanics, the electron cannot travel along the space between the levels, and that’s why according to the theory the electron disappears in one level, and it appears instantaneously in another level.

    .

    2) How photons are emitted by atoms according to Quantum Ring Theory

    Unlike happens in Quantum Mechanics, according to the model of atom proposed in Quantum Ring Theory the electron travels the space between the levels within the electrosphere. In order to simplify the explanation, we will explain what happens in the hydrogen atom. The mechanism of the phenomenon according to QRT is the following:

    a) The space within the electrosphere of atoms is non-Euclidian (there is a gradient of density which grows toward the direction of the proton).
    b) The electron moves with helical trajectory in the electrosphere of the atom
    c) The electron moves with CONSTANT speed between two energy levels, and this is the reason why it does not irradiate energy when it moves along the space between two levels
    d) Because the space is non-Euclidian, when the electron is moving toward the direction of the proton, there is a growth in the inertia of the electron (it is a growth in the resistance of the electron against its acceleration toward the proton, because while the force of attraction grows inversely proportional to the decrease of the distance proton-electron, at the same time grows its resistance opposing the growth of the attraction force). The same happens when the electron is moving leaving away the proton.
    e) Such constant speed of the electron in the electrosphere of the atoms can occur only in the atom model of Quantum Ring Theory, because the electrosphere is filled with aether (the reason why the space is non-Euclidian).

    .

    3) The Hans Dehmelt experiment

    In 1989 Hans Dehmelt published a paper describing a new technology, which detected the trajectory of the electrons within the electrosphere of the atoms. His experiment proved to be wrong the assumption adopted in Quantum Mechanics, because he detected that the electron travels the space between two levels of energy in the atom.

    Obviously that discovery had represented in 1989 the definitive breakdown of the Quantum Mechanics, because as the electrons travel the space between levels in the atom (as detected in the Dehmelt experiments), then according to Quantum Mechanics the atoms have be emitting energy continuously, and therefore the theory is denied by the experiments made concerning the atom emission.

    In order to save Quantum Mechanics face to the definitive breakdown, the community of physicists adopted the strategy of claiming that in the Dehmelt experiment the atom is “dressed”. So, according that new ad hoc hypothesis, the electron actually does not travel the space between levels, however due to the new technology used by Dehmelt the measurements show an “apparent” trajectory of the electron, because thanks to that new technology the atom becomes “dressed”.

    So, by this way the community of physicist succeeded to avoid the definitive collapse of the Quantum Mechanics along 25 years.

    .

    4) The experiment published by Nature in 2014

    But finally now, in the end of July 2014, the journal Nature published a paper proving that Quantum Mechanics is indeed wrong, because the hypothesis of “dressed atom” is actually a bunch of baloney.

    The experiment published by the journal Nature detected trajectories in a way different of that predicted in Quantum Mechanics:
    Mapping the optimal route between two quantum states
    http://arxiv.org/abs/1403.4992

    The experiment shows that the Interpretation of Copenhagen was wrong, as predicted in the book Quantum Ring Theory.

    Irfan Siddiqi, UC Berkeley associate professor of physics, says about the wrong entanglement of states considered in Quantum Mechanics:

    To Bohr and others, the process was instantaneous – when you opened the box, the entangled system collapsed into a definite, classical state. This postulate stirred debate in quantum mechanics, But real-time tracking of a quantum system shows that it’s a continuous process, and that we can constantly extract information from the system as it goes from quantum to classical. This level of detail was never considered accessible by the original founders of quantum theory.
    http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/2014/07/30/watching-schrodingers-cat-die/

    .

    5) The experiment made by Aephraim Steinberg

    The experiment published now in 2014 by Nature was performed thanks to a new technology, already used by Aephraim Steinberg, who published in 2012 a paper proving that Bohr’s Principle of Complementarity is also a bunch of baloney.
    The meaning of Steinberg experiment is explained in the ZPEnergy:
    http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3295&mode=&order=0&thold=0

    Steinberg, from the Toronto University-Canada, made the double-slit experiment with photons, and the results show that Quantum Mechanics is wrong, while Quantum Ring Theory is correct, because:

    1- According to Quantum Mechanics, a quantum particle can behave either as a particle or as a wave, but it cannot behave as wave and as a particle at the same time.

    2- Unlike, as Quantum Ring Theory considers that the wave-particle duality is consequence of the helical trajectory, then the particle can have interference with its own helical trajectory when it crosses a slit.
    So, according to QRT, the quantum particle can behave as a wave and as a particle as the same time.

    In the Steinberg experiment, a photon crossed a unique slit, and it had inferference with itself (a wave feature), while from Quantum Mechanics we would have to expect a particle feature only, since the photon crossed only one slit.

    .

    CONCLUSIONS

    1- This new technology is proving definitively that Quantum Mechanics was developed from wrong foundations, and it must be replaced by a new theory with new fundamental principles missing in Quantum Mechanics.

    2- A new model of atom capable to explain how the electron can travel the space between levels in the atom must be developed from the new principles considered in the atom model proposed in Quantum Ring Theory.

  184. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Thank you for addressing some of the previous questions. Is there a technical reason to stay at the 1 MW thermal output for your delivered units? Can a 10 MW or 100MW or 1000MW single unit be scaled up using 1 – 10kW units? Or would you prefer to stay at a 1MW package and scale up by paralleling 10, 100 or 1000 1MW units for the combined thermal output? I would assume maintenance access at some point becomes an issue?

  185. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N Karels:
    For power demand above 1 MW so far we think to combine 1 MW plants.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  186. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    You previously posted thoughts of a mini-reactor (around 1 kW thermal output) and a larger reactor (around 25 kW thermal output) and a much larger reactor (around 100 kW thermal output).

    a. Can you discuss the practical or theoretical limitations of the reactor sizing? Control, heat dissipation?
    b. Given your current research activities, what do you see as the smallest and largest eCat reactor sizings?
    c. Taking all this into account, what is the largest size of a number of combined reactors into a single unit in terms of thermal output?
    d. And what drives this limit?

    Please answer what you can, consistent with your needs for protecting intellectual property.

  187. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N Karels:
    The size issue so far has been resolved choosing the solution of adopting the modular assembling of 1- 10 kW units.
    The reason of this choice is that we have consolidated experience on small modules and that if one or several modules break up we can preserve most of the power in operation.
    Besides, to menage many cats is easier then to menage several tigers.
    Last, but not least: our modules of E-cats and Hot-cats have been certified.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  188. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear Andrea,
    thanks, it seems to me that, in your answer, you implicitly agree that the “Rossi effect” obeys the rules of Quantum Mechanics, such as all the chemical and/or nuclear reactions do.
    In this sense, the name “quantum reactions” attributed to the Rossi effect does not define anything specific.
    And that’s OK.
    However, I wonder if the Rossi effect has in itself something specific, which differentiates it from all the other possible reactions.
    I try:
    1 is it a nuclear reaction, ie, involves the nucleus?
    2. involves, in particular, in this case, the Nickel nucleus?
    3 during the reaction, isotopes of Nickel are forming?
    4. during the reaction, the above-mentioned isotopes of Nickel are subject to a decay with the emission of soft-Gamma radiations?
    5, is instead a reaction that involves the formation of isotopes of Hydrogen?
    6. during the reaction, the above-mentioned isotopes of hydrogen are subject to a decay with the emission of soft-Gamma radiations?
    7. are, instead, (the Rossi effect reactions) reactions that are affecting the electrons in the interior shells?
    8. in every way, can you confirm that in the reaction the soft-Gamma-radiation (or hard-X) have the order of magnitude of 100 keV?
    9. are these the responsible for the heat produced?
    I would not have been boring, it is only an attempt “to put a precise question.”
    Thanks again,
    Giuliano Bettini.

  189. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    As you know, I do not answer to question regarding what happens inside the reactor, so far, Beyond what I already have written on this subject.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  190. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear Andrea,
    I supposed to know something about physics, but apparently I did not know a damn thing!
    All the chemical and/or nuclear phenomena obey quantum mechanics, or something like that (for what I know). So I presume you use the term “quantum reactions” in some specific way, but what’s this specific way?
    Best regards, good work,
    Giuliano Bettini.

  191. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    can you put a precise question? Under a generic point of view you already answered to yourself inside the same question.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  192. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    You said that the sole systems that the scientists funded by Industrial Heat have replicated obtaining interesting results are the publications of Ikegami- Petterson and Ahern, while all the other systems replicated gave zero results.

    Do you think the excess heat achieved in these systems is produced by a different phenomenon than the ‘Rossi Effect’?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  193. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    All these works are “vibrations in the QUAR (or, if you prefer, LENR) field”…
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  194. Wladimir Guglinski

    New experiment published in Nature confirms Helical Trajectory of elementary particles predicted in Quantum Ring Theory

    Look at the shape of the million trajectories measured in the experiments:
    http://www.eurekalert.org/multimedia/pub/77169.php?from=273859

    The release:
    http://phys.org/news/2014-07-optimal-route-quantum-states.html

    And the paper published by Nature:
    Mapping the optimal route between two quantum states
    http://arxiv.org/abs/1403.4992

    The experiment shows that the Interpretation of Copenhagen was wrong, as predicted in the book Quantum Ring Theory.

    Dr. Irfan Siddiqi, UC Berkeley associate professor of physics, says about the wrong entanglement of states considered in Quantum Mechanics:

    To Bohr and others, the process was instantaneous – when you opened the box, the entangled system collapsed into a definite, classical state. This postulate stirred debate in quantum mechanics, But real-time tracking of a quantum system shows that it’s a continuous process, and that we can constantly extract information from the system as it goes from quantum to classical. This level of detail was never considered accessible by the original founders of quantum theory.
    http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/2014/07/30/watching-schrodingers-cat-die/

    So,
    one more experiment is showing that are wrong some fundamental principles of Quantum Mechanics, as predicted in the book Quantum Ring Theory.

    Regards
    Wlad

  195. Mark

    Andrea,

    Taking Dr.Fine’idea in consideration, perhaps QUAR (aka Rossi effect) is a nucleonic interaction and reaction class in general.

  196. Mark

    Hi Andrea,
    Could you correct one of my a,b, c, d by deleting or adding some words to make it more correctly describing the Rossi effect?

  197. Andrea Rossi

    Mark:
    Very difficult question I sympathize with.
    To answer correctly we must first of all make a distinction between the so called Rossi effect and other phenomenons. I am talking exclusively of the Rossi effect.
    None of the definitions you proposed are proper and to rephrase them could be misleading.
    The more I think to it, the more I like QUAR, quantum reactions. There is nothing new, I use what I learnt from the study of books used in the Universities.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  198. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    LENR is a perused acronym that would be anyway considered the old way, but your idea is fine.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  199. Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi,

    Mark inspired me to ask/suggest if a new name for LENR might be LENR?!

    :D

    That is, Low Energy Nucleon Reactions (instead of Nuclear Reactions).

    Since a Nucleon is a component of a nucleus (such as the Neutron and Proton) there could be interactions of Nucleons which do not involve the fusion or fission of nuclei.

    The case of Hydrogen would be an exception, since the nucleon of 1H1 is also the nucleus.

  200. Andrea,
    I guess if you own it, you can call it what you want…. :-)

    Political or economic power comes from controlling either energy, food, water, or strategic territories. Your success will change all that, and promise autonomy to individuals throughout the world. Then the fireworks begins.

    Of course, I want you to get on with it. I turn 74 next month, and I want to live long enough to see these changes you will be causing. At 74, I have to remember that life is doing something yourself and not waiting for someone else to do something or just waiting to die, so I have decided to add a Glider Pilot rating to my bucket list….. I just bought a single seat ’73 Schweizer 1-26E and am fixing it up. I am presently flying a two place 2-33. Glider flying is a lot less dangerous than politics as you will soon discover as your project proves itself.

    It’s been a pleasure trying to keep up with your progress. When you finally get this thing really moving, I would appreciate your giving me the opportunity to shake your hand.

    Charlie

  201. Andrea Rossi

    Charlie Sutherland:
    Thank you, but remind that we are still waiting for results that could be positive, but also negative.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  202. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    In my extensive reading of the Physical literature(of which there is not much conclusive about the Graviton) I must conclude that the Graviton is treated like a mysterious particle. Almost no experimental evidence is available and the mathematical treatment of the subject requires a great deal of assumption. Various explanations and scenarios are abundant and vary widely. In other words my guess and yours are as good as presented by anyone else. What I stated as my view of the Graviton is based on my idea that it acts much like the gluon. It holds masses together by attraction as the gluon holds the nucleons together by creating an artificial attraction between the quarks. Since the gluon decays rapidly when detached from the nucleons, my guess is that the Graviton also decays when detached from the masses that created it, possibly into dark energy or matter and that is the reason it has not been physically observed. Its manifestation is in the reported accelerated expansion of the Universe.
    The bottom line of my efforts to explain gravity is the enjoyment and satisfaction I get in exercising my imagination. I hope you also feel this satisfaction in your efforts.

  203. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    I know the feeling.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  204. Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in August 12th, 2014 at 6:40 AM

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    … but I want to confirm that I strongly adhere to the quantum fields theory.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

    ======================================

    COMMENT

    Therefore:

    a) As from the principles of Quantum Field Theory the results of the Don Borghi experiment are impossible to occur…

    b) … it implies that you reject the Don Borghi experiment…

    c) … as are doing the most Physicists who betray the Scientific Method, trying to save the Quantum Field Theory

    Curiously,
    the synthesis of neutrons from protons and electrons at low energy (impossible to occur from the principles of Quantum Field Theory) is probably one among the mechanisms involved in cold fusion occurrence.
    And therefore,
    by rejecting the results of Don Borghi experiment is impossible to explain cold fusion.

    And also curiously, the frequency used by Don Borghi in his experiment is in the same order of the frequence used by you in your eCat.

    So,
    I confess that I am no able to understand the mysterious way on how God writes in order to give insight for scientists to advance the Physics.
    The way used by God is more mysterious than the way on how the own cold fusion occurs.

    I suppose one day in the future we will understand how cold fusion occurs.
    And I hope we will also understand how God writes the mysterious way so that to allow the advancement of science.

    regards
    wlad

  205. Wladimir Guglinski

    Curiosone wrote in August 10th, 2014 at 2:35 AM

    Andrea Rossi:
    Thank you for your answers: your “analogies” are big help to understand the worls of elementary particles for us laymen. I also have to thank Wladimir Guglinski, but I am not able to understand what he says, I have not enough education.
    W.G.
    ======================================================================

    Dear Mr. Curiosone

    dont worry about your poor education in Physics.

    Because sometimes learning what is taught in univerisites is harmful to the development of science.

    According to the foundations of Quantum Mechanics (foundations from which Quantum Field Theory was developed), cold fusion is impossible.

    In 1998 during a lecture in Portland State University, the Nobel Laureate Murray Gell Mann said:
    “It’s a bunch of baloney. Cold fusion is theoretically impossible, and there are no experimental findings that indicate it exists.”
    http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000/kaplan2.html

    That’s why, along more than 20 years, the academic physicists rejected cold fusion, by using all kind of subterfuges, as pointing out errors in the calorimeters, and by claiming that theoretically cold fusion is impossible to occur.

    The reason for the cold fusion refusal was always the same: if cold fusion exists, then the foundations of Quantum Mechanics are wrong. And physicists like Gell Mann, who received their Nobel Prize thanks to their contribution for the development of Quantum Mechanics, could no admit their theories being threatened by cold fusion.

    So, along more than 20 years, experiments like of the pioneers Fleischmann and Pons (and many others) have been rejected by the academic physicists.

    When Andrea Rossi started his research, he did not have at that time a deep knowledge on the foundations Quantum Field Theory, and so he did not know that cold fusion is theoretically impossible.
    That’s why Andrea Rossi continued firmly believing that he would succeed to get a technology able to extract energy from cold fusion.

    And as happened to other cold fusion researchers, the work of Andrea Rossi also was under the attack of academic snakes, who tried to discredit his research along the years, claiming that his results are a fraud.

    It is interesting to note that, if Andrea Rossi had studied Physics in the universities, he would never discover his eCat, because by getting an academic background he would believe in the untouchable dogma that cold fusion is theoretically impossible, and therefore he would not start a research in cold fusion, since he would be convinced that theoretically cold fusion is impossible.

    But now Andrea Rossi started to study Quantum Field Theory, at least two hours per day. And now finally he fully believes that the QFT is the best available model.
    Happily, Andrea Rossi discovered it now, because if he had discovered it 20 years ago, today we would not have his eCat producing energy from cold fusion.

    And now, as Andrea Rossi knows that Quantum Field Theory is the best available theory, he adopts the same speach of the academic snakes who attacked his work along 20 years, claiming that his research is a pseudoscientific work impossible of being successful, because it is impossible according to the principles of Quantum Field Theory.

    Finally, dear Mr. Curiosone,
    it is curious to see how God writes in mysterious ways.

    regards
    wlad

  206. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    As always, we publish your theory and consequent considerations of yours, as we will continue to do, but I want to confirm that I strongly adhere to the quantum fields theory. It is not true that the snakes came from the academic world, the snakes came from well individuated sources. I owe to the Academic environment all I learnt about Physics and is at the base of my research.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  207. BroKeeper

    Dear Andrea,

    Here QUAR and many other clever interesting scientific acronyms posted in the E-Cat World blog that you may want to review represents well the Rossi Effect; but I was wondering how well the common consumer would relate to scientific expressions? Perhaps a more whimsical the scientific acronym the more memorable it could be as a household name. Having a little fun shuffling the LENR buzz words another energy storing critter in constant motion came to mind:
    Safe QUantum Exothermic Rossi Effect Lattice – Catalytic Assisted Generated Energy or ‘SQUEREL CAGE’. Wish you much fun in your work.

  208. Andrea Rossi

    BroKeeper:
    Thank you for this suggestion.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  209. Mark

    Hi Andrea,
    Which of these is more correctly describing the Rossi effect

    a, a new form of powerful chemical reaction.

    b, a new form of benign nuclear fusion
    reaction.

    C, a new form of benign nuclear fission reaction.

    D, a new form of benign nuclear annihilation of sub atomic particles reaction.

  210. Andrea Rossi

    Mark:
    None of them.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  211. Wladimir Guglinski

    Dear Mr. Curisione,

    as Andrea Rossi did not answer my questions, I can suppose that we may complete his sentence which he said to you, as follows:

    About Wladimir Guglinski: take in account that he is bearer of a theory that is not coherent with the Quantum Field Theory, because he thinks that it is wrong. This is not the opinion of most of the Physicists… because they do not follow the Scientific Criterium, since they reject some experiments which prove Quantum Field Theory be wrong. Therefore you find incoherence between what he writes and what you find in what I write, because the most of the Physicists betray the Scientific Method when Quantum Field Theory is disproved by some experiments.

    regards
    wlad

  212. Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I believe a change in the acronym LENR which has the worrisome “N” word is a good thing, but your QUAR is not exactly an acronym in the strict sense. How about just replacing the “N” with “Q” to read, LEQR (Low Energy Quantum Reaction)?…… The term Quantum has only benevolent connotations …. QED.

    Charlie Sutherland

  213. Andrea Rossi

    Charlie Sutherland:
    I prefer QUAR.
    Warm Regasrds,
    A.R.

  214. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    If I can impose upon you during this time of waiting for the TPR2, would you cite a source that defines the Graviton as a stable particle. As I understand, the case has not been made for its stability except as a theoretical outcome of string theory and which is contested by scientists who would like a proof using standard QM. The thought is that unlike the photon(wave packet) which is easily detected and is found abundantly in space when detached from its association with masses(free) because of its stability, the graviton defies all attempts to detect any free particles. If stable there should be huge amounts in space and detectable.

  215. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    The graviton is defined a stable elementary particle in all the Physics books adopted in the Universities. About the indirect evidence of them I already answered as well as about the search of direct evidence.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  216. Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi,
    Please Google:
    ALGAE POWERED BUILDING IN GERMANY
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, florida
    USA

  217. Andrea Rossi

    Robert Curto:
    Thank you, interesting
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  218. silvio caggia

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    Let’s have an historical parallel:
    American continent was already inhabited by natives and seems that some north european businessmen made business with natives before Columbus’s discovery.
    In 1492 the italian Columbus was able to convince a big partner, Isabel of Hispany, to finance the west way to China Far lands, after some problems with some “portoghesi”…
    But after years columbus was still wrongly convinced to have reached China Far lands.
    Was only Vespucci who understood that it was a New World, so in 1507 the map drawer Martin Waldseemüller used the name of Vespucci to call America.
    :-)
    Moral: the name of this phenomena will be attributed to the first who will *explain* them, not who discovered or sell them.

  219. Andrea Rossi

    Silvio Caggia:
    I do not know if you are right or not and if your parallel makes sense or not. I know that we have a consolidated explication about how the so called “Rossi Effect” works and the physical mechanirms that allow it to work. Otherwise, it could not work reliably in industrial applications.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  220. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    From the outside, with no news forthcoming, things seem very quiet regarding the E-Cat. Obviously things are different from your perspective.

    What can you tell us about the level of activity going on with your team at the moment?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  221. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    This is a period of top level engagement for what concerns the 1 MW plant, we are in the most critic moment; all our team is focused on it. About the Report, the waiting for it is a massive vibration in the field of anxiety.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  222. eernie1

    Dear Andrea, I don’t know if the Graviton can be classified as a stable gauge Boson like the photon. Many gauge bosons are considered virtual particles(see Feynman diagrams). The discovery of a free Graviton particle as of this time is still in question although the speed of the Graviton field effect has been measured as the speed of light.

  223. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Graviton IS classified a stable gauge boson by the Standard Model. It is true that other gauge bosons are virtual particles ( gluons, which mediate the strong forces and W+, W- and Z, which mediate the weak forces), but this fact has nothing to do with the fact that gravitons are stable gauge bosons, as well as photons. The speed of the gravitons is necessarily the speed of light, since gravitons are massless: all massless particles travel at the speed of light, this is a law of Physics!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  224. Andrea Rossi

    Thorbjorn:
    I prefer QUAR, but I respect your choice.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  225. Thorbjörn

    Just to be clear, do you agree with Frank Ackland that it is better to use QR, or do you prefer QUAR?
    I prefer QR.

    Best regards
    Thorbjörn

  226. Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in August 10th, 2014 at 8:50 AM

    Curiosone,
    : I fully believe that the QFT is the best available model, even if we all know that theories are done to be eventually overcome .
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

    Curiosone wrote in August 10th, 2014 at 2:35 AM

    Andrea Rossi:
    Thank you for your answers: your “analogies” are big help to understand the worls of elementary particles for us laymen. I also have to thank Wladimir Guglinski, but I am not able to understand what he says, I have not enough education.
    W.G.
    ===========================================================

    COMMENT
    Dears Andrea Rossi and Curisione

    Quantum Field Theory is the best available model, but it works in a certain level.

    In a deep level it does not work, and therefore some principles of the theory must be wrong.

    For instance, according to the fundamental principles of QFT the neutron cannot be formed by proton+electron.
    However, the Conte-Pieralice experiment and the Borghi experiment prove that neutron is formed by proton+electron, and therefore something is wrong with the principles of QFT

    And since those two experiments prove that QFT cannot be the fundamental theory, what we had to expect from the theorists?

    Well, we had to expect that the community of physicists would have to undertake an effort, in order to repeat those two experiments.

    Unfortunatelly, instead of to undertake an effort so that to repeat the two experiments, the community of physicists actually adopts the strategy of running away of the two experiments as the devil runs away of the cross.

    Dr. Ruggero Maria Santilli tried to repeat the Don Borghi experiment in the laboratories of several universities in Europe, between 1993 and 2000. He was banned from all the European niversities.

    In 2002 I had a discussion via email about the Taleyarkhan experiment with the Nobel Laureate Dr. G. t’Hooft.
    During the discussion I told him about the Don Borghi experiment, and he sent me the following reply:

    “There is much more wrong with n=p+e, but most of all the fact that the ‘experimental evidence’ is phony”.

    Well, a scientist cannot claim that any evidence of any experiment is phony, because he has not a laboratory into his brain, in order to repeat the experiment within his head, so that to verify the results of the experiment.

    The Scienfific Community prescribes that any controversy about any experiment must be solved via the repetition of the experiment. And not to claim that the experiment is phony, because its results are disagree to the foundations of the Quantum Field Theory.

    But it is easy to understand why Dr. t’Hooft said that Borghi experiment is phony. It is because Dr. t’Hooft is one among the theorists who developed the Quantum Field Theory, and he awarded the Nobel Prize thanks to his theoretical contributions.
    So, as Borghi experiment proves that something is wrong in the foundations of QFT, it is obvious that Dr. t’Hooft wishes to be the most far away he can from any experiment with the aim to repeat the Borghi experiment.

    In 2008 Santilli repeated the Don Borghi experiment and confirmed its results:
    Confirmation of Don Borghi’s experiment on the synthesis of neutrons from protons and electrons
    http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0608229

    Finally, I would like to ask to Andrea Rossi to answer:

    1- Are you agree with Dr. G. t’Hooft, and you also believe that Don Borghi experiment is phony?

    2- As Dr. t’Hooft, do you think that there is no need to repeat an experiment, in order to eliminate the controversy about its results?

    3- Do you think that the community of physicists is in the correct way, rejecting the Don Borghi experiment without to try to repeat it ? (so that to save QFT)

    4- In the case your opinion is that Don Borghi must be repeated in the laboratories of the universities worldwide, suppose the results be confirmed. Please tell us your opinion:

    As from the foundations of QFT a neutron cannot be formed by proton+electron at low energy , which is a premise denied by Don Borghi experiment, do you continue keeping your opinion that QFT is the best available model ?

    5- Concerning your words: “About Wladimir Guglinski: take in account that he is bearer of a theory that is not coherent with the Quantum Field Theory, because he thinks that it is wrong. This is not the opinion of most of the Physicists“, I would like to know your opinion:

    A) I think that Quantum Field Theory is wrong because, among other experiments, from its foundations the results of the Don Borghi experiment are impossible to occur.

    B) The opinion of the most of the Physicists is based on their rejection of the Don Borghi experiment.

    C) Therefore:
    Who, in your opinion, is following the Scientific Criterium?

    a) Wlad ? (having my opinion supported in the results of the Borghi experiment)

    or

    b) the most of the Physicists? (having their opinion suported by the rejection of the Borghi experiment).

    regards
    wlad

  227. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Interesting discussion about a label for your energy source. I would suggest that just as LENR is an acronym for Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, it would be better to use QR for Quantum Reactions (easier to say, too!)

    Also, I think if you want any label to stick you, and Industrial Heat, would need to make a coordinated effort to use it in official communications. Even then, the media will probably be the ones who will determine the common name for this reaction.

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  228. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    We are talking of QUAR, or LENR in generic sense, not just for the E-Cat, anyway.
    Warmest Regards,
    A.R.

  229. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    1. Will the customer of the first 1 MW plant be involved in the testing of the plant before it is installed to ensure it meets expected performance standards?

    2. Will the plant replace an existing heat source at the customer’s location, or will it be installed on a brand new production line?

    3. Is your work on the 1MW plant currently on schedule?

    Many thanks!

    Frank Acland

  230. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    You are right.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  231. DTravchenko

    Dr Rossi:
    What do you think about the proposal of Mr Estri to change the definition “LENR” into “QUAR” ( Quantum Reactions)?
    Warm Regards,
    DT

  232. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    W+ and W- ( discovered by Carlo Rubbia, who merited a Nobel Prize for this discovery) are the sole GAUGE bosons with an electric charge, but there are other bosons with electric charge: the bosons that belong to the hadrons are mesons, made by a quark and an antiquark, and among the mesons there are kaons ( k+ and k-) and pions ( pi+ and pi-) that have an electric charge. Obviously, we are talking of virtual particles, with a lifespan below 10^-23 s
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  233. KD

    Mr. DTravchenko
    You wrote.
    “What do you think about the proposal of Mr Estri to change the definition “LENR” into “QUAR” ( Quantum Reactions)” ?
    The other proposal might be. QURER (Quantum Rossi Effect Reactions)

  234. Dear Mr. Rossi,

    I don’t think there is anything wrong with LENR. Once you explain to people that this technology is non-radioactive and inherently nontoxic, they won’t care what you call it. The problem now is not that people are afraid of LENR. The problem is they don’t think that it actually work. All we need to do is prove that it works and the name won’t matter. LENR is more honest and understandable than QUAR.

    Sincerely, Christopher Calder

  235. Andrea Rossi

    Christopher Calder:
    I understand your point, but you are making confusion between two issues that have to be distinguished between each other.
    Evidence of the fact that QUAR ( or LENR) work is in course of being collected, due to the TPR2 and the first 1 MW commercial plant : we will see if the results will be positive or negative. A different thing is the negativeness or positiveness of a specific semanthic. If somebody asks you if it is raining you cannot answer ” the real problem is to have a roof upon houses”.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  236. eernie1

    Dear Andrea and Wlad,
    Since the idea of virtual particles has been introduced into this discussion, do you think as I do that the graviton is a virtual particle. That is, it does not exist as a particle until there is mass interaction. No mass no graviton. The mass interactions create the graviton force fields which then interact in an attractive manner. The graviton has no mass itself and no spin therefor can be classified as a Boson. The spins of the fermionic particles are coupled to the field and therefore conserve spin parity. The system exhibits 4 dimensional Riemann symmetry with time as the only non-Abelian dimension and has spherical geometry. The fields are weak but interact across vast distances.

  237. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Along the Standard Model, that I respect, Gravitons are stable gauge bosons, therefore they cannot be considered virtual particles. It is true that they have not yet been directly observed, but indirect evidence of them is clear: a consequence of the general relativity is that ripples in the gravitational field describe waves at the speed of light. They have been indirectly detected in 1974 by Russel Hulse and Joseph Taylor, who merited the Nobel Price for this work; they discovered a binary system of neutron stars spinning in a very close orbit. General relativity says that this system should lose energy emitting gravitational waves , causing the orbital period to decrease as the two stars approach closer: Hulse and Taylor measured this change in the period, exactly as Einstein had supposed on the base of his theory.
    Many attempts are now in course to measure directly gravitons: mainly utilizing astrophysical sources, by bouncing lasers off mirrors distant from each other: as a gravitational wave passes through, it stretches spacetime and as a consequence mirrors get closer, eventually getting more distant. This distance variation can be measured by the changement in the lasers’ wavelength. A typical example is the US Laser Interferometer Gravitational Wave Observatory, that consists of two separate facilities, one in Washington State and one in Louisiana.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  238. Curiosone

    Andrea Rossi:
    Thank you for your answers: your “analogies” are big help to understand the worls of elementary particles for us laymen. I also have to thank Wladimir Guglinski, but I am not able to understand what he says, I have not enough education.
    W.G.

  239. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    Conservation has nothing to do with Stability: all leptons respect the conservation law, but only electrons and neutrinos are stable. Leptons conservation law implies that the number of leptons has to be conserved after any interaction in which leptons are involved, while stability implies that an elementary particle does not decay, so far we know about it. Muon and Tau are leptons, but they are not stable, they are virtual particles, which means resonances of waves during interactions between particles: virtual particles are bookkeeping devices that indicate how quantum fields are vibrating during interactions between elementary particles.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  240. Curiosone

    Another question, dear Andrea Rossi, when you have time: since Leptons are conserved, does this mean that Leptons are stable?
    W.G.

  241. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone,
    There is not any thing enough difficult not to be possible to explain it in simple words, but also remind that simple explanations are superficial and sometimes the necessity to semplify makes explications misleading. Just be aware of this. About Wladimir Guglinski: take in account that he is bearer of a theory that is not coherent with the Quantum Field Theory, because he thinks that it is wrong. This is not the opinion of most of the Physicists, therefore you find incoherence between what he writes and what you find in what I write: I fully believe that the QFT is the best available model, even if we all know that theories are done to be eventually overcome .
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  242. DTravchenko

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    Since everybody asks you questions of Physics, allow me to ask you: are W+ and W- the sole bosons with an electric charge?
    Warm Regards,
    DT

  243. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    Yes, I think is a very good idea, also to take off from LENR the pressure of the “N” letter. Semanthics sometimes count. I will try from now to spell QUAR instead of LENR, and this will be a contribution of the Journal of Nuclear Physics. Therefore: the next Authors are gently invited to use the definition QUAR instead of LENR. Let’s see what happens.
    Thank you for your comment,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  244. Hank Mills

    Orsobubu,

    Here is my response in the form of an essay. I think that the E-Cat will allow an amazing future for the world, if used appropriately.

    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MJOFSAW

  245. Lata

    Hi Andrea,
    If you detecting pulsating electrostatic forces, EM waves cannot be far behind. Will it be possible to make e-cat powered microwave oven. That will be amazing.
    Warm Regards,
    Lata

  246. Andrea Rossi

    Lata:
    As I said, this is an issue that has to be put under a long and complex R&D work.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  247. Wladimir Guglinski

    orsobubu wrote in August 8th, 2014 at 11:43 AM

    Hank Mills:

    My dream would be that you could design a low temp E-Cat that would produce pulsing magnetic fields outside of the reactor. If this was the case, you could wrap a coil of copper wire around it and convert the magnetism to electricity. I can imagine such a solid state E-Cat being used to power an RF cavity thruster so we could colonize the solar system.
    ====================================

    COMMENT:

    Your dream of colonizing the solar system is already a reality:

    Anomalous Thrust Production from an RF Test Device Measured on a Low-Thrust Torsion Pendulum
    http://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/6.2014-4029

    regards
    wlad

  248. Wladimir Guglinski

    To the readers of the JoNP

    New experiment (again) proves to be wrong Einstein’s empty space:

    Anomalous Thrust Production from an RF Test Device Measured on a Low-Thrust Torsion Pendulum

    http://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/6.2014-4029

    According to the current Modern Physics, the experiment (tested in the NASA Johnson Space Center) violates the energy-mass conservation law.

    This new proof that space is not empty reinforces the experiment publshed in 2011 by Nature:
    Observation of the dynamical Casimir effect in a superconducting circuit
    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v479/n7373/full/nature10561.html

    Surprisingly, again we dont see any newspaper in the world claiming that Einstein was wrong.

    The scientific community of physicists continues keeping the old desparate attempt so that do not recognize that Einstein was wrong.

    We have only to wait so that see how many years the scientific community will be well succeeded in such attempt.

    regards
    wlad

  249. orsobubu

    Hank Mills:

    My dream would be that you could design a low temp E-Cat that would produce pulsing magnetic fields outside of the reactor. If this was the case, you could wrap a coil of copper wire around it and convert the magnetism to electricity. I can imagine such a solid state E-Cat being used to power an RF cavity thruster so we could colonize the solar system.

    Surely you’ve read Gerard K. O’Neill’s “High Frontier: Human Colonies in Space”; related technology problems could heve been addressed since the ’70s, at least for the beginning phase requirements. But the political will was lacking and, above all, the possibility – for a capitalistic production system – to plan such huge projects requiring massive capital investment without short-term profits. Yes, someone is building spaceplanes for rich tourists, but only because they are already collecting fat advance payments. Think about Ebola outbreak. Animal vaccines are almost ready, they cannot complete the human trials because companies foresee uncertain returns. Capital market is too much plagued by risks and overproduction crisis. I cannot imagine that a “simple” energy plant can extricate these philosophical, objective economic contradictions. It seems more plausible that disruptive technologies could exacerbate the social turmoil and bring to a revolution, like the steam machine marked the end of serfdom economy. This is my bet ;)

    But, Hank, I really wish that an E-Cat would allow your dream to come true; yesterday Rossi wrote: “I am anyway always interested to analyse newfindings in my old love, the Seebeck Effect, to which I dedicated IN THE NINETIES 4 years of my life”

    Imagine if in a distant future he could write: “I am anyway always interested to analyse newfindings in my old love, the LENR-powered EmDrive Thruster, to which I dedicated IN MY NINETIES 4 years of my life”

    hehe

  250. Andrea Rossi

    Orsobubu:
    forgot the last phrase!
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  251. Andrea Rossi

    Ecco Libération:
    I cannot give information in positive or in negative regarding what happens inside the reactor.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  252. Ecco Liberation

    Dr. Rossi:
    I’m sort of reluctant to ask this since I don’t want to step into confidential information territory, but have you ever observed whether putting a powerful magnet in contact with the internal E-Cat surface or applying a powerful electromagnetic field to the entire reactor (along different directions just to be sure) stops or affects this electrostatic field phenomenon in any detectable way? If it’s related to the motion of particles inside the E-Cat like I previously speculated, then I would expect it does, perhaps together with excess heat production.
    Regards E4L.

  253. Dan C.

    Dear Andrea,

    he he, You knew these questions would be asked.
    1. Does this electrostatic pulse occur
    A. during drive mode
    B. during self sustain mode
    C. during both

    2. Is this detected in
    A. the mouse
    B. the cat
    C. in both

    3. Does this occur
    A. at high temps
    B. low temps
    C. both

    4. Was this detected as some type of feed back to the control box or some evidence discovered when analyzing the reactor after a shut down.

    Thank you in advance for any answers you can give. It helps to occupy our idle minds while awaiting the TIP report.
    I wish you all the best with the 1Mw plant.

    A Rossi kind of analogy:
    We have built a beautiful new car in our factory. It sounds wonderful. It is time to cross fingers and drive it around the block.
    If all goes well, we plan a great road trip. :-)

    Regards,
    Dan C.

  254. Andrea Rossi

    Dan C.:
    Here are the answers, but not for free: you owe me a pizza.
    1. C
    2. B
    3. A
    4. No: the effect ( if real) is totally independent and insulated from the control box, which is external. The E-Cats’ external surface doesn’t carry any kind of current, being electrically insulated.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  255. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi.

    This was just a conceptual question. Perhaps the thermoelectric conversion would be more reliable (no moving parts) than a conventional Carnot cycle electricity generation. In an ideal world, the excess heat would be made available to thermo-to-electric converters (through batteries) that would control the eCat operation. But I agree — probably a not useful combination for further consideration. Thank you for your response and consideration.

  256. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Thank you for your insights.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    p.s. I am anyway always interested to analyse newfindings in my old love, the Seebeck Effect, to which I dedicated in the nineties 4 years of my life. So far they are not efficient, but I am curious to understand what is going on with the new rare earth based semiconductors.

  257. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I was suggesting that a possible configuration for an eCat system might be one where the eCat produces heat which drives a refrigeration unit from the heat. The cold from the refrigeration unit and the excess heat from the eCat drive a device that produces some electricity which is used to control the eCat. It probably will not work as the thermal-to-electric conversion efficiency is very low. If I knew a typical eCat effective COP, an analysis could be attempted.

  258. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Why have we do adopt a system that has a lower efficiency if we can have a system that yields a higher efficiency?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  259. Alessandro Coppi

    Hi Andrea, I read that reactors are insulated for safety reasons by means of particular ceramic material, this reduce the heat transmission, would not be better to use an insulating transformer that will grant the same safety grade without affect the heat excange?

    Best regards

  260. Andrea Rossi

    Alessandro Coppi:
    The configuration of the Hot Cat and the E-Cat is such that all the heat produced goes out to the heat exchanger, once the operation is stabilized, for the 1st and 2nd thermodynamic principle. On the contrary, a transfoemer would reduce the efficiency.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  261. Steven N. Karels

    Tread A drew Rossi,

    Interesting comment on cooling. I know some devices can produce electricity. Depending on you effective COP, you might be able to make sufficient electrical power from the thermal heat difference, provide cooling and maybe use the excess heat for another application?

  262. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Sorry, I do not understand what you mean: can you kindly rephrase?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  263. Wladimir Guglinski

    Curiosone wrote in August 5th, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    Andrea Rossi,
    When you have time: a neutron out of an atom decays into proton and an electron; this means that it contains them someway?
    Thank you for your patience
    W.G.
    ============================================

    COMMENT

    Dear Curisione,
    along decades the theorists used to suppose that it is impossible the neutron to be formed by proton+electron, because of several theoretical restrictions against the model n=p+e.
    For instance, the proton has spin 1/2, the electron has spin 1/2, and so the neutron formed by p+e would have to have spin 0 or 1.
    But experiments show that neutron has spin 1/2.
    There are many other theoretical restrictions agsinst the model n=p+e.

    Therefore the nuclear theorists believe that the proton and the electron do not exist into the neutron.
    And from the principles of Quantum Mechanics, it is impossible a neutron be formed by the fusion proton+electron at low energy.

    However two experiments, one made by Elio Conte and Maria Piealice, and the other made by Don Borghi, have demonstrated that a neutron can be formed by proton+electron at low energy (this is IMPOSSIBLE according to the current Nuclear Physics).

    So, the two experiments show that something very serious is wrong in the principles of the current Nuclear Physics).

    And, as Nuclear Physics is wrong, then the structure of neutron formed by proton+electron is possible, as the two experiments have proven.

    According to the Scientific Method, any controversy about a question must be solved via the performance of experiments.
    However, sometimes the scientific comunity does not apply the Scientific Method so that to solve scientific controversy. Instead of, they betray the Scientific Method, so that to save the theories in which they believe.

    That’s why the physicits reject the experiments made by Conte-Pieralice and Don Borghi, because if the two experiments be accepted by the Scientific Community there is need to reject as wrong even some principles of the most reputable theory of the present days, the Quantum Electrodynamics.

    The Conte-Pieralice experiment was published in 1999 by the Infinite Energy Magazine.

    The Don Borghi experment was in a paper titled Experimental Evidence of Emission of Neutrons from Cold Hydrogen Plasma, in the American Institute of Physics (Phys. At. Nucl.), vol 56, no 7, 1993.

    regards
    wlad

  264. Ecco Liberation

    Dr. Rossi:
    I figured that since a Hot Cat already is a thermal hazard under working conditions (as its surface temperature peaks at several hundreds °C), having electrical insulation for the static electricity it apparently generates would have been kind of redundant as one would get a bad burn before possibly getting electrocuted. I meant that hypothetically speaking – where safety is not #1 priority – referring to an exposed, uninsulated inner core. I do get your point, though.
    Thanks, E.L.

  265. Andrea Rossi

    Ecco Liberation:
    The external surface must be electrically insulated for safety reasons because even if you don’t touch it with the finger, you could enter in contact by means of any accidental conductor.
    The E-Cats and the Hot Cats all have the external body surface electrically insulated by means of a ceramic that is thermally conductive and electrically insulating

  266. Ecco Liberation

    Dr. Rossi:
    In practice, does this electrostatic field phenomenon imply that if a person were to touch an E-Cat he would get a zap (-> electrostatic discharge / ESD)? Or perhaps would he get zapped continuously? I wonder if more than pulsating electrostatic field, ‘randomly intermittent’ wouldn’t be a more appropriate definition for this effect. I speculate that this is caused by nickel dust clouds forming inside your Hot Cats under operating conditions.
    Regards E.L.

  267. Andrea Rossi

    Ecco Liberation:
    The external surface of the Hot-Cat is electrically insulated, for obvious safety reasons.
    Currents are out of the reaction but inside the Hot Cat.
    If you touch any external part of the Hot Cat you do not feel any current nor measure any electromagnetic emission.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  268. WaltC

    Dear Andrea,
    I believe it’s been said that your lab is sometimes heated by an E-Cat and I understand that it’s not too difficult to produce cooling based off of a heat source (absorption cooler?)…

    - do you ever use an E-Cat driven cooler to provide cooling for the lab?

    It seems like a good time of year for cooling right now.

    Thanks,
    Walt C.

  269. Andrea Rossi

    WaltC:
    Production of cold using heat is a well known technology and surely a possible application for the E-Cat. We made experiments with specialists with good results, but priority is gone to heat demanding industrial utilizations. Your intuition is valid, though.

  270. renatoestri

    Andrea, Giovanni Guerrini :
    thank you for your kind appreciations.
    When this technology will be spread to public,
    an appropriate acronym is important to call it properly.
    These two simple words summarize deep concepts, are
    accurate from technical & scientific point of view,
    and won’t scare anyone.
    My best regards

  271. Andrea Rossi

    Renatoestri:
    Yes, I agree,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  272. Andrea Rossi

    Ecco Libération:
    No, this phenomenon is for us a serendipity, it has not even mentioned to the Third Independent Party, because, as I said, a lot of further R&D is necessary before considering it a real production.
    We suspect to have observed it during our internal tests with the Hot Cat.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  273. Ecco Liberation

    Dr. Rossi:
    Is there any chance/do you believe that the third party testers have observed and analyzed this electrostatic emission phenomenon in addition to performing heat measurements, and that they will report about it in their upcoming paper? Also, does this happen on every E-Cat crafted so far or just specific versions (for example the Hot-Cat)?
    Regards E.L.

  274. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    Could you please tell us a little more about the electromagnetic fields detected from your device? They have nothing to do with the upcoming report which is only measuring heat production, so I hope you can share just a bit of info. For example:

    1 – What form of EM fields are you measuring? Magnetic? Electrostatic?

    2 – Where are they detected? Inside the reactor? Outside?

    3 – What is the strength of the field in Tesla, if it is a magnetic field?

    4 – Is it pulsing or constant?

    My dream would be that you could design a low temp E-Cat that would produce pulsing magnetic fields outside of the reactor. If this was the case, you could wrap a coil of copper wire around it and convert the magnetism to electricity. I can imagine such a solid state E-Cat being used to power an RF cavity thruster so we could colonize the solar system.

  275. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    In this period I am exclusively focused on the 1 MW plant, therefore the issue of the e.m. fields detected is not at the moment on the top of the spear. This is an issue that we do not consider consolidated, more complex research has to be done to say anything important about it. Anyway, based on what we made:
    1- electrostatic
    2- outside the reactor, inside the E-Cat, not outside the E-Cat
    3- see 1
    4- pulsing
    Warning: this all could be wrong. Consistent R&D is necessary before saying anything decisive.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  276. Giovanni Guerrini

    renatoestri,
    I like your idea,maybe it is more correct and easier to say.

    Regards G G

  277. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    You posted “Because we need to drive the reactor for safety reasons and we cannot drive a reactor by means of itself.”

    I suggest an alternative consideration. You obviously have a control mechanism (the commercial power) that drives and controls the eCat. If the energy supplied by commercial power was replaced with a very large battery, then the eCat would still be controlled. Correct?

    So the issue is can the eCat generate sufficient electrical power to charge a large capacity power with a large time constant? Do you agree?

    Or is this a safety certification problem rather than a technical problem?

  278. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    I casually found this comment of you in the spam and retrieved, published it. Probably your address is taken as a spam from our robot. For the next comments, it is better if you change address.
    About your comment: if you read carefully TPR1 you can understand why we need a drive to maintain stable the reactor; this factor, as you correctly say, is also connected with the safety certification.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  279. renatoestri

    Dear Andrea,

    I’ve just read on Ecat World an article full of good sense:

    http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/08/06/change-of-name-from-lenr-is-an-urgent-necessity-guest-post/

    It would be a very attractive idea to change the LENR name, where ‘N’=Nuclear recalls in the public imagination
    strongly negative sensations, while, as we know, this new technology doesn’t hide dangerous effects.

    So what would you think about this new acronym to replace the LENR:

    QUAR = Quantum Reactions

    (incidentally, ‘AR’ remembers someone working a bit in this field….)
    My regards and best wishes

  280. Andrea Rossi

    renatoestri:
    Is a good idea.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  281. Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Andrea:

    You wrote:
    Fermions, as we have seen, are waves in particular quantum fields: matter particles are discrete vibrations in fermionic fields.
    By harnessing these waves, or better let them interact on a controlled way, it may be possible to invent new technology that beats gravity or can be used as a direct propulsion system, or a nuclear-electric battery, I would assume.

    The heat, coming from the E-cat can then be “uncontrolled” by-product of some interactions of these wave-systems.

    Are you studying (two hours each day) and experimenting on these phenomena ?

    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  282. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    That is quantum fields theory. Obviously, the study of Physics influences my experimantalistic work, in general. About your assumptions, I am not able to answer.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  283. Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Andrea,
    Were you or your team of scientists capable of predicting or explaining phenomena from this insight ? Do you make hypothesis or ideas on direct propulsion or influencing gravity or the use of resonance for whatever purpose, of these vibrations ?
    If you study two hours per day on physics, it must be worth the effort I assume.
    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  284. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    Sorry, I did not understand your question. Can you kindly rephrase it ?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  285. Carlo Marcena

    Thanks, Martyn.
    CM

  286. Martyn Aubrey

    Hi Carlo,

    It looks like you are stuck on an old comment page/thread.

    To see the latest comments go to http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=853#comments

    To see all the sections of the blog go to the top level: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com or just click on the logo/title at the top of this page.

    All the best,
    Martyn (another avid reader of the JoNP)

  287. Curiosone

    Andrea Rossi,
    When you have time: a neutron out of an atom decays into proton and an electron; this means that it contains them someway?
    Thank you for your patience
    W.G.

  288. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    Fermions, as we have seen, are waves in particular quantum fields: matter particles are discrete vibrations in fermionic fields. When a neutron decays its quantum field resonates with the quantum field of electrons and the quantum field of protons, so that from such resonance one electron is born in its quantum field and a proton is born in its quantum field too. By the way, also an antineutrino is born in its quantum field to maintain the leptons conservation.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  289. Curiosone

    Why don’t you power the E-Cat with part of the surplus energy it produces?
    W.G.

  290. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    Because we need to drive the reactor for safety reasons and we cannot drive a reactor by means of itself.
    Arm Regards
    A.R.

  291. DTravchenko

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    Are the powders inside the reactor under pressure?
    Warm Regards
    DT

  292. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    You can read my patent granted in Italy in 2009.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  293. Claudio

    Dear Andrea, recently Elon Musk, the founder of SpaceX, Solarcity and Tesla Automotive, has opened the source of his project patents affirming that:
    “Tesla Motors was created to accelerate the advent of sustainable transport. If we clear a path to the creation of compelling electric vehicles, but then lay intellectual property landmines behind us to inhibit others, we are acting in a manner contrary to that goal.”
    Behind the first imagine of a philantropist, in his stance there is a solid economic background. If the whole field of electric vehicles developes rapidly, the industrial leader of to-day (that is him now) will earn the maximum benefit by the entire growth.
    Do you think that this method can fit the LENR application market?
    Warm Regards

  294. Andrea Rossi

    Claudio:
    Maybe in future
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  295. Carlo Marcena

    Today I haven’t seen any new post … worried for this … so I have decided to send this one.
    Hello to everybody and happy to wait with you all good news about E-Cat.
    Regards,
    CM

  296. Wladimir Guglinski

    Dear Andrea Rossi

    Something happened in my last message, which was not published in its entire form.

    The item 6 in its entire form is the following:

    ————————————————————-
    6) Therefore, such question (why from the mono-field concept considered in Quantum Field Theory it is not possible to explain the zero magnetic moment of the even-even nuclei with Z=N ) is a fundamental question in Physics.
    ————————————————————-

    regards
    wlad

  297. Wladimir Guglinski

    To the readers of the JoNP:

    Here is another example of my disagreement with Mr JR:

    ———————————————————
    3) You don’t understand Quantum Field Theory. QFT does not allow you to calculate magnetic moments of nuclei.
    ———————————————————

    COMMENT

    Mr. JR is not able to understand the fundamental question regarding the reason why Quantum Field Theory is not able to explain the null magnetic moment of even-even nuclei with Z=N.

    Indeed, QFT does not allow to calculate magnetic moment. Actually magnetic moments are calculated from the nuclear models existing in the Standard Nuclear Physics.

    But here is the reason why QFT is not able to exlain the null magnetic moment of those nuclei:

    1) The concept of field considered in the Standard Nuclear Physics is the same concept of field existing in the Quantum Field Theory, which is a mono-field concept.

    2) Without to consider the rotation of the nuclei, the even-even nuclei with Z=N would have null magnetic moment, by considering the Standard Nuclear Physics, because, due to the symmetry of the nucleus, each pair proton-neutron has a symmetrical pair proton-neutron, and the two pairs proton-neutron cancel each other their magnetic moments.

    3) But the nuclei have rotation. And the rotation of a charge induces magnetic moments. THIS IS A FUNDAMENTAL LAW OF PHYSICS. So the rotation of the protons within the nuclei induce magnetic moment. And therefore the even-even nuclei with Z=N have to have magnetic moment different of zero.

    3.1) And a theorist cannot, by definition, to define as zero a nuclear property which must be DIFFERENT of zero as consequence of a FUNDAMENTAL LAW OF PHYSICS, because such stupid method of definition proposed by Mr. JR violates a fundamental law of Physics.

    4) The problem with Quantum Field Theory is because it is a mono-field theory. And it is IMPOSSIBLE to explain the zero magnetic moment of even-even nuclei with Z=N, by considering ANY THEORY developed from the mono-field concept of field.

    5) The zero magnetic moment of the even-even nuclei with Z=N can be explained only by considering a NON-mono-field theory, as proposed in Quantum Ring Theory, where the field of elementary particles is formed by the overlap of two concentric fiedls Sn and Sp.

    6) Therefore, such question (why from the mono-field concept considered in Quantum Field Theory)) is a fundamental question in Physics

    .

    regards
    wlad

  298. Wladimir Guglinski

    JR wrote in August 3rd, 2014 at 9:33 AM

    Wladimir,

    Your last several posts are simply wrong in all significant respect. In most cases you don’t even appear to understand the concepts that are being discussed and so even your initial ‘statements of fact’ are simply nonsense:

    =========================================================

    COMMENT

    Dear JR,

    I challenged any theorist expert in Quantum Field Theory to come here to explain why even-even nuclei with Z=N have magnetic moment zero.

    But you are not expert even in elementary Physics, dear JR.

    Actually you dont know even geometry, since you dont know the difference between an ellipsoid and a sphere.
    So, I will not waste my time with your nonsenses.

    .

    To the readers of the JoNP

    Look at the Figure 1 of the paper How atomic nuclei cluster, published in Nature:

    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v487/n7407/full/nature11246.html

    Are you able to realize that Figure 1 shows a structure with elipsoidal shape?

    But Mr. JR is not able to understand that Figure 1 shows an elipsoidal structure.

    In December 2013 Mr. JR claimed here in the JoNP that the structure of the Figure 1 is spherical:

    ————————————————
    JR
    December 15th, 2013 at 12:33 AM

    Wladimir,

    Actually, Martin Freer and I gave the same argument, you just didn’t understand it. And it’s not exactly an argument, it’s part of the definition of the quadrupole moment, which is taken as the measure of the deviation from spherical symmetry. That is why I was explaining that the nucleus is spherical, in the standard meaning of the phrase, even though it has structures as shown in Freer’s work.
    ————————————————–

    regards
    wlad

  299. Dave Lafleur

    If you are finding a magnetic byproduct as well that is certainly interesting. You had no mention of magnetic materials. Care to comment? Should I be surprised if you find a monopole mechanism? I apologize for my questions with no (known?) answers but you sir are a mad scientist and enjoy your blog. I believe that skepticism is healthy but positive or negative this would be a better world if more scientists were asking your questions.

  300. Andrea Rossi

    Dave Lafleur:
    It is not exactly as you wrote. We have found as an unexpected phenomenon the direct production of electromagnetic energy. This is an issue we are making R&D upon, but, sincerely, in this period my focus is on the 1 MW plant of the new US Customer. I agree about what you say in regard of scepticism.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  301. orsobubu

    Ahhh… after months of nice compliments about cats and containers and reports, THIS is the action I was missing so much. Pass me my popcorn and soda now, and let me sit down and enjoy.

  302. JR

    Wladimir,

    Your last several posts are simply wrong in all significant respect. In most cases you don’t even appear to understand the concepts that are being discussed and so even your initial ‘statements of fact’ are simply nonsense:

    1) You don’t understand the concept of wave-particle duality: all particles behave as waves (in the quantum mechanical sense) all the time. In some energy limits this behavior is similar to a classical mechanics description of particle behavior. In some limits, it is more similar to a classical wave. But it is not correct to say that a particle is ever just a classical particle or a classical wave.

    2) You don’t understand diffraction and quantum mechanics. There is nothing that says a single photon or electron behaves like a particle when it passes through a single slit. A basic QM textbook can address your misunderstanding.

    3) You don’t understand Quantum Field Theory. QFT does not allow you to calculate magnetic moments of nuclei. It can be used to calculate interactions of fundamental (point-like) particles, but a model is required to build a bound state nucleus from a collection of composite (non-fundamental) particles such as protons and neutrons. Also, your argument about orbiting nucleons is a purely classical one, so both wrong and irrelevant.

    4) You (still) don’t understand magnetic moments. They are, by definition, zero for any spin-0 nucleus. So the only thing you can possibly learn from the magnetic moment of these spin-0 nuclei is that people who raise the question of predictions for them don’t have any idea what they’re talking about.

    5) While I’m here, the pion is the particle associated with the Yukawa potential, so it’s fair to say that Yukawa did predict the existence of the pion. However, he assumed it was a fundamental particle, and it turns out that it was a QCD bound state.

    6) You also appear to have basic trouble with numbers. A “zero” is different from a missing entry in a table – that one has given you a lot of trouble. Also, when two measured values are slightly different (proton radius of 0.84 and 0.88 fm), that does not mean that the correct answer is 0.25.

    7) Basic logic. Even if you find a case where someones model of a QCD or quantum mechanical phenomenon is incorrect, that does not overturn everything we know about QCD or quantum mechanics. It might mean that there’s a fundamental flaw, but you’d have to actually look at the details of the model to make such a conclusion.

    These are some of the issues with the claims you’ve been making more recently. There was a useful compilation of an extended list of errors in claims you’ve been making for a longer time, but I’d have to search for it. I can do so if anyone cares.

    I’d work on sorting out these more basic issues before reinventing all of known physics. My apologies if I’ve stated things unclearly or made any minor errors; this didn’t seem like a post that was worthy of a lot of time.

  303. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski, Joe:
    Who wants to answer you is very welcome, as well as your comments are.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  304. Michael S

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    1/ You have great expertise in plastics waste treatment. Do you think that the Ecat heat-energy cost would allow to tackle/ significantly improve the plastics recovery/reformation costs ? We currently pollute our environment with these plastics as they are so practical but do not include the waste process costs because that would be to expensive. Maybe this jump in energy costs will allow us to create a real cradle to cradle economy and clean up the existing mess ?

    2/ maybe you have already answered this: have you indications of strong electromagnetic fields during the working of ecat ? If yes could a systematic enhancement of this effect allow harvesting of Electricity ?

    Following with patience.
    Electric:) regards,

    Michael

  305. Andrea Rossi

    Michael S.:
    1- When we will have E-Cats producing also electric power, the energy produced will be useful for any apparatus.
    2- We got indications and we are working on that issue in our R&D program
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  306. Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in August 2nd, 2014 at 9:02 PM

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    …but I do not agree upon the fact that quantum field theory is wrong.
    ——————————————

    COMMENT:

    Dear Andrea,

    Quantum Field Theory (QFT) was developed from the contribution of several theorists, and one among them is the Nobel Laureate Dr. Gerard t’ Hooft.

    From the concept of field considered in QFT it is impossible to explain why even-even nuclei with Z=N have zero magnetic moment (as all the nuclei have rotation, the rotation of the protons within those nuclei would have to induce a positive magnetic moment, and therefore QFT cannot explain why those nuclei have null magnetic moment).

    So, I would like to suggest you, dear Andrea, to invite the Dr. G. t’Hooft to come here to tell us how it is possible to explain why even-even nuclei with Z=N have zero magnetic moment, by considering the Quantum Field Theory.

    His email is the following: G.tHooft@phys.uu.nl

    And I challenge any theorist expert in Quantum Field Theory to come here, to tell us how it is possible to explain why even-even nuclei with Z=N have zero magnetic moment, from the foundations of QFT.

    Regards
    wlad

  307. Joe

    Dr Rossi,

    An electron has an electric field. We can point to the electron, and we can also point to its effect far away (perhaps to a device measuring field strength). The electron is a local phenomenon, and its electric field is a remote phenomenon. Both phenomena exist at the same time. The local one is of a particle nature, and the remote one is of a wave nature. Therefore, there exists an obvious point of transition between these two different natures. But if we now consider the local phenomenon as wave, the point of transition between two similar (wave) natures becomes problematic. If there were no point of transition, the two phenomena could only be considered as actually one phenomenon (one wave), with no distinction between local particle and remote field.

    All the best,
    Joe

  308. Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in August 2nd, 2014 at 9:02 PM

    1)
    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Obviously I respect your opinion,
    ———————————–

    Dear Andrea,
    it is not a question of opinion.

    The scientific method prescribes that a theory must be able to be fit to the results of the experiments.
    If the theory is incompatible with the experiments, it cannot be correct.
    This is what the scientific method prescribes.

    It is not my opinion

    .

    2)
    but I do not agree upon the fact that quantum field theory is wrong.
    ———————————-

    COMMENT

    By considering Quantum Field theory even-even with Z=N have to have positive magnetic moment.
    But they have null magnetic moment.

    It is not a question to be agree, or not.

    By considering the scientific method, Quanum Field Theory is wrong, because the theory does not fit to the results of experiments.

    .

    3)
    I also must add that I do not think that any theory should be considered eternally valid and I think that the phenomenological epochè is always a good exercise.
    ————————————–

    COMMENT

    So, it is the time to realize that Quantum Field Theory is wrong.
    It can work well in a certain level.

    But in smaller scales Quantum Field Theory is fundamentally wrong.

    regards
    wlad

  309. Joe

    Dr Rossi,

    How do you distinguish between the wave that composes a particle and the wave that is associated with the surrounding field of that particle? For example, an electron has an electric field which has a wave associated with it. If the electron itself is a wave, where is the point of transition between the wave of the electron and the wave of its electric field?

    All the best,
    Joe

  310. Andrea Rossi

    Joe:
    An electron is a tiny vibration in the particular quantum field it belongs to. The “transition” of a boson into a fermion like a lepton is made by the interaction between the quantum field in which the boson vibrates and the Higgs field; the Higgs field turns the boson into a fermion breaking the symmetry. Once the electron is born after the interaction between the boson’s field and the Higgs field, there is not a transition between the wave and the electron: the electron IS a wave, because it is, as said above, a tiny vibration in the quantum field it belongs to, a tiny vibration that we perceive as a particle of matter. I made the example of the image in the screen of the computer, that is an image, but if we observe it precisely our senses perceive it as a system of pixels, but it is still an image; image does not pass through any transition between image and pixel or vice versa. In this model image is the quantum field of the electron, the lepton ( electron) is the matter: the matter is just a vibration in the field as well as the pixel is just a dot of the image.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  311. Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in August 2nd, 2014 at 8:09 AM

    Joe:
    In the quantum field theory, elementary particles are tiny vibrating waves in a particular field and interactions are between elementary particles in fields; forces carried in their interactions by means of bosons can be thought of as resulting from vibrations in fields.
    =======================================

    COMMENT

    Quantum Field Theory is wrong, because according to the theory the even-even nuclei with Z=N (like 2He4, 6C12, etc.) cannot have null nuclear magnetic moment, because due to the rotation of the nucleus the charged protons would have to produce a positive magnetic moment.

    As said in 29th July:

    …for the moment, we are overlooking something fundamental at smaller scales.

    regards
    wlad

  312. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Obviously I respect your opinion, but I do not agree upon the fact that quantum field theory is wrong.
    I also must add that I do not think that any theory should be considered eternally valid and I think that the phenomenological epochè is always a good exercise.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  313. Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in August 1st, 2014 at 7:24 PM

    Curiosone:
    As you see, I have edited a little bit your question to make it correct.
    Matter is made by waves
    =====================================

    COMMENT

    Waves cannot colide like billiard balls, as happens in Compton Effect.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compton_scattering

    Only corpuscular particles can collide like billiar balls.

    As from the foundations of Quantum Mechanics is impossible to eliminate the incompatibility between the theory and the experiments, Bohr proposed his famous Principle of Complementarity, according to which in some experiments the matter behaves like particles and in other experiments the matter behaves like waves.

    But in 2011 the physicist Aephraim Steinberg made an experiment showing that Bohr’s Principle of Complmentarity is wrong:
    http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3295

    According to Quantum Mechanics, a quantum particle can behave either as a particle or as a wave, but it cannot behave as wave and as a particle at the same time.

    The experiment made by Steinberg showed that Quantum Mechanics is wrong, because in his experiment a photon crossed a unique slit, and it had inferference with itself (a wave feature), while from Quantum Mechanics we would have to expect a particle feature only, since the photon crossed only one slit.

    regards
    wlad

  314. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    Can you give us the names of the people JONP uses for peer review? It seems to me that it is difficult to choose qualified judges for papers dealing in LENR or some of the other subjects that are published here. Most of the renown scientists will stay away from these subjects because of the prejudices caused by main line academia.
    Any news you can give us about the situation of the TPR2 will be much appreciated.

  315. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    I am sorry, but our peer reviewers prefer not to be disclosed. They all are from the main line academia, just to correct your opinion. It is not true that most from the main line scientist are biased against LENR, they are biased against the clowneries that happened in the LENR fields, that unavoidably spray dirt on all the field, as recently happened in a paradigmatic example that everybody understands which has been.
    Anyway: if some of our Readers, with a degree in Physics, wants to be a peer reviewer of the papers that the JoNP receives for publication, he will be welcome.
    About the TPR2, as soon as I will know when it will be published, I will communicate the information on this blog.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  316. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    So do you feel that if you were to step away from your work now (I do not expect this), that the team at IH would be able to continue along developing E-Cat technology very well without you?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  317. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    1- No, we have to respect the guarantees of performance we signed for and we will be paid if the guarantees will be respected. As it happens for any kind of technological plant.
    2- Brand new production line with a back up in case of problems to our plant
    3- Yes
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  318. Joe

    Dr Rossi,

    If you believe that a particle is a wave, and since a wave exists in a medium, does that mean that two different particles (electron, neutrino) would each have a different medium associated with them? Or would their respective waves be situated within only one shared fundamental medium (aether)?

    All the best,
    Joe

  319. Andrea Rossi

    Joe:
    In the quantum field theory, elementary particles are tiny vibrating waves in a particular field and interactions are between elementary particles in fields; forces carried in their interactions by means of bosons can be thought of as resulting from vibrations in fields.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  320. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Without asking what is going on within the eCat reactor but based on your experimental history:

    1. I suggest that nanospheres of some material other than nickel or palladium could be coated with nickel or palladium. The difference in the thermal coeffcient of expansion would cause stress when the material is heated. When heated to the Debye temperature, nano-sized cracks could appear which would form localized reaction areas. What is your opinion of this approach?

    2. What about carbon-coated nickel nanoparticles? What is your opinion?

  321. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N Karels:
    1- 2: Dear friend, you know by heart that I cannot give any information in positive or in negative of this kind. My opinion, the only one I can express, is that any opinion must be respected, independently if they are right or wrong, for the work that is behind it. Work must always be respected.
    The only way to know if an opinion is right or wrong is to make experiments to test it. You can test what you wrote, it is not difficult. For example: we make experiments to reproduce all the apparatuses and processes that have been described in all the patents and publications made in the world regarding the LENR, because that is the only way to verify if they work or not.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  322. Curiosone

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    When you have time ( repeat: when you have time, I want not to steal your time) can you answer to this question that nobody has been able to answer me, since I was in the high school: matter is made of waves or of particles?
    Thank you,
    W.G.

  323. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    As you see, I have edited a little bit your question to make it correct.
    Matter is made by waves, which are quantum fields. Everything in the elementary particle world is made by waves and are the vibrations in the waves quantum fields that make the difference between one particle and another, or between a Fermion and a Boson. Therefore, if you look carefully among waves, you can see particles, which are particular vibrations in a particular field; here is an analogy: if you look at a photo in the screen of your computer , you see images ( waves in a quantum field); but if you look more precisely, you see in them pixels ( particles).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  324. Curiosone

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    Thank you for your answer about gravitons.
    Thank you also for all your answers even if you have to respect your NDA.
    Godspeed,
    W.G.

  325. Tony McConnell

    Dear Andrea,

    Firstly, congratulations on your successes so far, and long may they continue!

    This is a little off-topic (well, a lot off-topic, really). I am lucky enough to be invited to a wedding in Ancona this year; is there a place you can recommend visiting whilst there?

    Also, are there suitable Italian sayings I could learn to toast the happy couple?

    Thank you

    Tony

  326. Andrea Rossi

    Tony Mc Connell:
    Ancona is a nice town, with a beautiful sea-coast along the Adriatic Sea. Close to Ancona is Florence ( couple of hours of train), where the cultural and touristic references are infinite for importance and quantity.
    About the toast, I suggest to avoid sayings and say your sincere and personal words.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  327. Tony McConnell

    Ing. Rossi

    Please don’t let youself be distracted by insults and become involved in lawsuits.

    Your work will tell the real story.

  328. Andrea Rossi

    Tony Mc Connell:
    Ancona is a wonderful town, in particular the sea-coast is like a necklace of jewels. You also are not far from Florence ( couple of hours of train or drive). Any comment is useless…just go.
    About the toast: avoid sayings, say your sincere and personal words: much better.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  329. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    I’ve been attempting to think of some questions you may be allowed to answer. Here goes:

    1 – Regardless if the one megawatt plant satisfies the customer or not, how much did it cost to build in parts and materials. (This does not include labor but only the container, electronics, plumbing, reactors, etc.)

    2 – Are there any other third parties testing, with industrial heat’s permission, E-Cat reactors other than the TIP? (Even if the testing is private and results will not be disclosed publically.)

    3 – What temperature range of steam is the one megawatt plant designed to produce?

    4 – When the one megawatt plant is demostrated and allowed to be visited, would you consider releasing some of the more facinating videos of your private testing? For example, reactors intentionally being allowed to self destruct.

    5 – Have you considered reaching out to ( omissis) as a potential customer?

  330. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    1- This information is confidential for commercial reasons, so far. I can say, though, that the production cost in $/Kw is very competitive with the cost of power of traditional power and heat generation systems.
    2- Next third parties will be the Customers, but, obviously, our R&D activity will never end, as well as it never ended for any technological production and manufacturing, like cars, computers, whatever.
    3- Technical data will be given in due time.
    4- Maybe
    5- I passed your information to our commercial department. I put under “omissis” the name you suggested and their production because we cannot name a company without their permission, nor describe their production.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  331. Ashley Hurtis

    Dear Andrea,
    Are you saying that the new 1MW plant has been installed and been operating for some time now? Currently, You are collecting and solidating data to determine positive or negative commercial operations.

    Ashley

  332. Andrea Rossi

    Ashley Hurtis:
    We will give due information when visits will be allowed.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  333. georgehants

    Dear Mr. Rossi, you have described your new Cat as a Masterpiece, are you referring just to it’s Wonderful looks or do you mean that it works pretty good as well.
    Best wishes

  334. Andrea Rossi

    Georgehants:
    In Italy they say: ” Ogni scarrafone è bello a mamma sua” ( translation: “every beetle is beautiful for his mother”). Let’s see the objective results, than we will be able to answer objectively.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  335. gillana

    Dear Dr. A. Rossi
    Allow me to propose a few questions that maybe a little somewhat provocative.
    If, as I read, the experimental phase is over, and now scientists are analyzing millions of data so that the results are incontrovertible because positive issues may have serious consequences, and these data will be published in a scientific accredited peer-reviewed journal I have reason to believe that if the results are positive I can watch news on TV waiting for a sensational announcement by the media.
    If the 1MW plant will be operating, even if only for a few days, will be commercially a disaster but successful from the point of view of science.
    Warm regards,
    Gillana

  336. Andrea Rossi

    Gillana:
    It is extremely important that the 1 MW plant does not work well for any days, but reliably for at least one year without major problems, because what we are aiming to is the real industrial application of the so called Rossi Effect, not another test. The next 1 MW plant has the task to open the era of the industrial utilization of the so called Rossi Effect, with ratings supplied not from experimentalists, but from satisfied Customers that make money with our plants. Obviously R&D will continue for ever, but the next 1MW plant will close the experimentalism era and will open the commercial era, in which we will no more discuss if the so called Rossi Effect works or not, but the discussion will be about its industrial evolution and, eventually, its domestic application: provided the results of the TPR2 and the 1 MW plant will be positive, and not negative, because: THE RESULTS COULD BE POSITIVE, BUT ALSO NEGATIVE AS FOR WE KNOW SO FAR.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  337. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    In your theory of eCat operation,

    1. do you believe the eCat reaction is taking place at a finite number of locations (hotspots) or do you believe the reaction is uniformly distributed over the fuel?
    2. If a finite number of hotspots, do you believe the number of hotspots reoughly remain constant over the operating lifetime of the eCat?
    3. If finite, do you believe that most hotspots are dynamically destroyed and created during the process and perhaps is a function of fuel temperature?

  338. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N Karels:
    1- Confidential
    2- Confidential
    3- Confidential
    As you know, any information regarding the process of the so called Rossi Effect are so far confidential.
    By the way: a precise reading of the TPR1 can give you information that answer, at least partially, to your questions. Maybe the next TPR will have results more interesting, because based upon a much longer period of operation. I think the TPR2 will teach us things that I myself do not know, due to the sophisticated analysis the Professors are doing. Hoping that the results will be positive, or at least not negative.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  339. George M

    Andrea
    Is the application, industrial food processing production? (hope this is not a NDA) or cleaning?

  340. Andrea Rossi

    George M.:
    I cannot give answers in positive or in negative: obviously I would receive one thousand questions: ” is this? Is that? ” and, by exclusion, I would end up giving confidential information.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  341. Andrea Rossi

    George M: The 1 MW plant is not a demo, is a plant in operation to work for a Customer. It is a factory, not a show room !
    Visits will be allowed when the Customer will allow them, maybe within the year. This plant will make history, if the results will be positive, and every step has to be calculated with precision.
    I have to add that the results could be positive, but also negative and that the results will be considered positive only after months of regular and reliable operation.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  342. toussaint

    Dear Mr Rossi,

    Is your new 1MW plant is still inside a container

    For your US customer ?

    Kind regards.

    Toussaint françois

  343. Andrea Rossi

    Toussaint:
    In due time we will publish the photographies of the plant in operation. Anyway: the new series of 1MW ECAT ha substantial differences from the original prototype, but, yes, we use a standard container as external case. More compact, though. We maintained this solution to make the plants easy to transport and faster to build up.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  344. George M

    Dear Andrea,
    Do you think your 1MW plant will be ready for demo within this year.
    Regards. George M

  345. Bob

    Dear Andrea Rossi

    1. Do you know whether the so called Rossi effect occurs in nature (that is, not within an e-cat device)? If so, is there evidence of such occurrence? What is the evidence?

    2. The operation of the e-cat has been described with these steps:

    a) A separate energy source is used to provide start up heat.

    b) Some time later, the e-cat will will run in self sustain mode and the start up heat is no longer needed.

    c) At a later point in time additional heat from another outside source is again required.

    d) The cat and mouse design may provide additional heat to the e-cat.

    Does the so called Rossi effect account for the need for additional energy at step c)?

    Thanks

    Bob

  346. Andrea Rossi

    Bob:
    1- No
    2- yes
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  347. Wladimir Guglinski

    Satellite galaxies put astronomers in a spin
    http://phys.org/news/2014-07-satellite-galaxies-astronomers.html

    “Today, everything appears to indicate that the standard model provides a faithful representation of observations at the largest scales of the Universe (“Weak lensing mass map and peak statistics in Canada–France–Hawaii Telescope Stripe 82 survey”), but that, for the moment, we are overlooking something fundamental at smaller scales”.

    .

    So, something fundamental is wrong with the Standard Cosmological Model at smaller scales, as also happens with the Standard Model of Particle Physics and the Standard Nuclear Physics.

    Each day new discoveries are showing fundamental wrong things in Physics.

    It’s hard to believe that current Modern Physics is able to explain LENR.

  348. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Thank you, very interesting.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  349. Wladimir Guglinski

    Satellite galaxies put astronomers in a spin
    http://phys.org/news/2014-07-satellite-galaxies-astronomers.html

    An international team of researchers, led by astronomers at the Observatoire Astronomique de Strasbourg (CNRS/Université de Strasbourg), has studied 380 galaxies and shown that their small satellite galaxies almost always move in rotating discs. However, such satellite galaxy discs are not predicted by current models of the formation of structures in the Universe. This discovery could cause modelers serious headaches in the years ahead. The results of the study are published in the 31 July 2014 issue of the journal Nature (“Velocity anti-correlation of diametrically opposed galaxy satellites in the low-redshift universe”).

    These findings call into question the predictions of the standard model at galactic scales. This is because, if this phenomenon were linked to the accretion of satellite galaxies along filaments of dark matter in the Universe, it would be necessary to explain why these rotating structures are much thinner than the filaments that gave rise to them, and also why the two brightest satellite galaxies, which are the two that can be seen, systematically always come from the same filament. Alternatively, the discovery may mean that our current models need to be completely revised. Today, everything appears to indicate that the standard model provides a faithful representation of observations at the largest scales of the Universe (“Weak lensing mass map and peak statistics in Canada–France–Hawaii Telescope Stripe 82 survey”), but that, for the moment, we are overlooking something fundamental at smaller scales.

    .

    Velocity anti-correlation of diametrically opposed galaxy satellites in the low-redshift Universe
    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature13481.html

  350. DTravchenko

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    What do you think of the last discoveries in the Seebeck Effect?
    Warm Regards,
    D.T.

  351. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    The plant has to work 24 hours/ day for 350 days/year, producing 1 MWh/h of heat in the form of steam.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  352. DTravchenko

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    Another question: the 1 MW plant that is going in operation in the factory of a US customer how many hours per year will work?
    Warm Regards,
    D.T.

  353. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    Interesting, but we need they go in the market to buy them and test them.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  354. Frederic Maillard

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Have you tried an E-Cat with molybdenum instead of nickel ?
    Is it useless to try molybdenum ?

    FM

  355. Andrea Rossi

    Frederic Maillard:
    We tested many combinations, but I cannot give information in positive or negative about our R&D. In due time we will give the necessary specific information.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  356. Gherardo

    A curious situation generated by renewable energy in german electric grid.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-24/german-utilities-bail-out-electric-grid-at-wind-s-mercy.html

  357. Andrea Rossi

    Gherardo:
    Still few persons have understood well the difference between power and energy. To install 1 MW of power by wind mills, photovoltaics, etc does not mean to substitute 1 MW of power of not alternative energy facilities, because the actual energy produced by the alternative energy plants is at most the 10% of the installed power. In a nutshell: to install a 1 MW power windmill and to have a wind energy that can yeld an average of 50 kWh/h is like to have a Ferrari with 10 liters ( 2.5 gallons) of gasoline per month. The only way to make these alternative energies work is to fund them with the backing of the taxpayer. This is the truth. With the obvious exception of particular cases, like, for example, remote installations where no grid arrives.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  358. Curiosone

    Dear Andrea Rossi
    after the publication of the TPR2 you will be attacked very strongly and devastatingly in the whole world. Are you prepared for that? What will you do in this case?
    W.G.

  359. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    Let’s try this.
    imagine that the Universe is like a model made by a bundle of elastic strings, an enormous amount of them, equally distributed and symmetrically placed. Imagine that inside this bundle of symmetric elastic and vibrating strings there are dispersed pebbles of different mass too distant from each other to break the symmetry.
    Now imagine that the elastic strings vibrate regularly maintaining the symmetry.
    In this model the elastic strings are gravitons on a still Universe.
    But Universe is not still and stars,planets etc move fast, so that the elastic strings are pulled and when they are pulled the symmetry is broken and they force the close pebbles to get closer:we could say that the gravitational field (the elastic strings bundle) has been distorted, so that the force of the elastic strings is exchanged between the closer pebbles. Sometimes this force makes the smaller pebbles fall on the bigger and what happens is a mess; sometimes the smaller pebbles orbit around the bigger one with a momentum that compensates the force of the elastic strings (the gravitons)
    like Earth makes around the Sun.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  360. Curiosone

    Dear Andrea Rossi
    can you explain with your skill to make easy difficult things how gravitons work in quantum theory?
    Godspeed
    WG

  361. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    I will continue to prey God every morning.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  362. Andrea Rossi

    Alain Co:
    interesting,
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  363. Since you seems to have studied the question of water treatment, which is a key point for poor and emerging countries, you may be interested (if you did not study it already) in the Boron-doped diamond electrodes.
    This technology allow to treat water without chemical, by violent electrolysis.
    This market is hard to develop because like LENR it is changing the market.
    There was a project for a babywater machine like expresso machine, but it failed, for many reason implying insurance and liabilities, and market disruption of established business.(it will remind you something).
    The company Adamantec tried the market of pool water cleaning, but get bought by AquaDiamante
    http://www.aquadiamante.com/13.0.html
    This company works on the domain too
    http://www.neocoat.ch/en

    there is some interesting review
    http://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijelc/si/450284/

    water treatment with autonomy of years may create niche market, whatever is the price, whatever is the size.

    hope this helps (but maybe you are enough busy while disrupting a trillion dollar market, not to disrupt a trillion more on water).

  364. Dan C.

    Dear Mr. Rossi,

    As to desalination, most think of the boiling or flash steam process. From their point of view, the E-cat would be cheaper. They are unaware of the magnitude of the effects that mineral scaling have on the water vessel. This requires continuous labor intensive maintenance, so while using E-cats would make this process cheaper, it is still an expensive process. A Reverse Osmosis filtering system will eliminate many of these associated problems.

    I would point out that with R.O. filtration systems, an electric E-cat would still contribute in significant cost reduction. The electricity used for ionizing the filters, UV sterilization treatment, and pumps to name the obvious.

    The less obvious would be when the E-cat, both electric and heat processes are integrated into the manufacturing sector, the products used in building Desalination plants will be cheaper.
    There’s more than one way to skin a cat. “Skin as in Utilize”

    Regards,
    Dan C.

  365. Andrea Rossi

    Dan C.:
    The fact that when and if we will be able to sell electric power producing E-Cats will make cheaper electricity is true and, in this case, convenience should be generalized, but the desalination made by steam is not competitive with the reverse osmosis by an order of magnitude.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  366. Steven N. Karels

    Dave Lafleur,

    This topic has been discussed before so I will summarize what I believe are the issues. To boil water at room pressure takes a large amount of energy.

    India has demonstrated a prototype program using the relatively warm ocean seawater and evaporating it by pumping it into a reduced pressure (partial vacuum) chamber that is cooled by ocean water brought up by pumps from the relatively cold ocean depths. So perhaps eCat technology could generate the electricity to do this. This would be a continuous operation at a constant power so eCat would be ideally suited for this purpose.

    In other ocean locations where this might not work, reverse osmosis techniques are more energy efficient than boiling the sea water. Again, eCat could provide the electricity needed.

    ECat waste heat would also assist the effort.

    Your suggest is correct. It is just that there are more efficient ways of doing this.

  367. Andrea Rossi

    Herb Gills:
    Brian Ahern is one of the few scientists in the LENR field that I think is making something that can have success. Said this, I must add that:
    1- I cannot discuss issues that would force me to disclose information that is still confidential.
    2- in principle, I respect the opinion of Dr Ahern, but I disagree, on the base of experiments we made with the E-Cats and the Hot Cats
    3- I wish good luck to this competitor of ours
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  368. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Useful information, as usually happens when you send a comment. As a matter of fact this treatment is very competitive and my opinion is that the E-Cat is not competitive for the desalination.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  369. Dear Mr. Rossi,

    This fascinating YouTube interview gives some possible explanations as to how your reactor works. It’s about magnetism in LENR.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_kID_E-3tY

    “Dr. Brian Ahern: Nanomagnetism, Cooperative Modes, & Non-Linear LENR”

    All the best, Christopher Calder

  370. Andrea Rossi

    Christopher Calder:
    Interesting opinion, but I think differently, based on my experiments. The work of Brian Ahern is interesting, though.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  371. Joseph Fine

    AR, Dave Lafleur,

    Here is a web resource on desalination and also of desalination filter membranes made out of graphene sheets. You can find further information on this website on a variety of subjects related to desalination.

    http://www.desalination.com

    http://www.desalination.com/wdr/50/9/graphene-membrane-technology-update

    Fresh regards,

    Joseph Fine

  372. Herb Gillis

    Dr. Rossi:
    Brian Ahern has expressed the opinion that LENR is not a nuclear phenomenon but instead an electromagnetic one. If that is true it raises the question of what the ultimate source of the observed excess energy might be. It clearly cannot be chemical, if your observations and the “third party test” results are accurate. Ahern said in a recent interview that the source may be some kind of vacuum energy (or the so-called “zero-point” energy of the vacuum). Do you think he might be right? If so; are there any limits to how much usable energy could be extracted from such a strange source?
    Kind regards; HRG.

  373. Dave Lafleur

    AR,
    I would think that desalination would be an easy application of your technology, as all that is needed is boiling water and a condenser- and your low cost energy to make it practical.

    To make a quantum leap, pardon the pun, could you irrigate the deserts? Could you turn the Sinai Desert into an oasis instead of a war torn wasteland?

  374. Andrea Rossi

    Dave Lafleur:
    I have no idea. I am not an expert of desalination, but costs of desalination are already very low, as far as I know: experts in past analyzed the possibility to desalinate with the E-Cat, but it turned out not to be competitive.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  375. DTravchenko

    To complete my comment: if yes, are you glad if I try to put you in contact with the right persons in Russia?
    D.T.

  376. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    Answer to both comments: yes, I think we can do it with profit. Of course we are interested to this issue.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  377. Rafal Krych

    Dear Andrea,

    This is why humanity needs home e-Cats so badly: How a solar storm two years ago nearly caused a catastrophe on Earth.

    Best wishes and keep up with good work with ending the “Fossil Fuels Age”!
    Rafal

  378. Andrea Rossi

    Rafal Krych:
    We are working…
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  379. Rafal Krych

    Dear Andrea,

    This is why humanity needs home e-Cats so badly: .

    Best wishes and keep up with good work with ending the “Fossil Fuels Age”!
    Rafal

  380. Curiosone

    Do you continue to study physics, or now you just make your experiments and manufacturing?
    W.G.

  381. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    The answer is yes. It is the foundamental of LENR.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  382. Curiosone

    Dr Rossi:
    Are you still convinced that the “lattice” theory of Norman Cook is right?
    Thank you for your answer,
    W.G.

  383. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    I have ordered to myself to study and update myself on Physics at least 2 hours per day, rain or shine.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  384. DTravchenko

    Dr Rossi:
    You think your Hot Cats could be useful to retrofit partially nuclear plants?
    Warm Regards,
    D.T.

  385. Italo R.

    “… we, the Team….”
    and that reminds me “We, The People of E-Cat” :-)

    Kind Regards,
    Italo R.

  386. Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.:
    Yes, you are absolutely right. The People of the E-Cat are extremely important . It maintains us constantly under a positive pressure. I am very disappointed not to be able to give information about the TIP-R2, of which I know nothing, and also for the 1 MW plant, about which we will give information only after a period of consolidation of the operation. That’s why now we talk of the rumors of Harley Davidsons. By the way, I read that many fans of this motorcycles are angry about the electric Harley, since its characteristic noise is an iconic heritage of these ouvres d’art. Anyway, it will not take long before we will have to talk about specific things.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  387. Paul

    Andrea,

    In regards to: “Nobody is indispensable.”

    If you change the paint, you change the painting.

    Paul

  388. Andrea Rossi

    Paul:
    …and this give further evidence that no paint is indispensable.
    I really hope, and I am sure that, the Team of Industrial Heat has in me a good, but not indispensable, player. Their organization will overcome my subjective shortcomings.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    p.s.: 1 a.m. of Thursday July 24th, and we are working: we, the Team.

  389. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Regarding the first public 1 MW plant. As you have designed, built and tested it, do you now see ways it can be improved? Can the masterpiece be surpassed by an even better masterpiece?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  390. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Nobody is indispensable.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  391. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Thank you — you say ‘worked’ on this plant. Does this mean the manufacturing has been completed? Maybe you are now involved in testing it?

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  392. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    My team will be able to make better than me for sure.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  393. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Harley Davidson is now testing a prototype electric powered motorcycle. Perhaps, in the future, an eCat powered motorcycle? So many possible eCat applications and so little time to think of them all.

  394. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N Karels:
    No more brumm brumm?
    A.R.

  395. Curiosone

    I am hearing a rumor that the report of the TIP will be published in September…
    W.G.

  396. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    I am hearing the rumor of a Harley Davidson making “brumm, brumm” out of the window of my laboratory. That’s some rumor!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  397. Curiosone

    Andrea:
    I imagine you are talking with the TIP now and again: how is the sensation, good or bad?
    W.G.

  398. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    The work of the Third Independent Party does not depend on me, as I wrote repeatedly. I must ask that the discussions about the report are put on hold until it will be published. I do not know, and cannot know when it will be ready and cannot provide any better information. I understand your feeling, I am very anxious too, but we must be patient.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  399. DTravchenko

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    What do you think in general, not in particular, of all the people working in the LENR ?
    Warm Regards,
    D.T.

  400. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    Yes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  401. DTravchenko

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    In your team is also a nuclear physicist?
    Warm Regards,
    D.T.

  402. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    We find the work of our competitors to be anyway respectable and noteworthy.
    LENR as a field is rapidly pursuing cleaner and more affordable sources of energy. Making the world a better place through cleaner and more affordable energy is why we are working so hard with our R&D testing.
    This is a good thing and would be of great benefit to Society.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  403. Giovanni Guerrini

    This article was published in 1999,today it is of storical interest.

    http://www.radiocittadelcapo.it/wp-content/uploads/2-CHIMICA-E…MISTERI1.doc

    Regads G G

  404. Steven N. Karels

    Curwin,

    If eCat can use 3He AND it is economical to mine it on the moon, it would be less costly to use it rather than transporting hydrogen from the Earth. Probably hydrogen will be transported to the moon but for water unless vast quantities can be found during mining.

  405. curwin

    Steven N Karels:

    Even with the *astronomical cost of space launches, there seems to be enough energy in a kilo of H/D/Ni (or whatever) to perhaps make 3He a moot question?

  406. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Helium-3 is readily available on the Moon’s regolith. It is also commercially available, albeit rather expensive. If you could obtain a sufficient quantity, you could test it. If it proves successful, you could then patent the process. That might serve you well but, of course, patents are limited in time and we do not know when a lunar colony will be viable. Use of lunar 3He would be much more economical than transporting hydrogen to the moon.

    There was conjecture that 3He might be the fusion fuel in the near future, be mined on the moon and transported to the Earth. If eCat is successful with nickel and ordinary hydrogen, there will be no need for lunar mining for Earth’s fuel needs.

  407. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Thank you, anyway interesting as an idea. Obviously I cannot give information, in positive, or in negative, regarding the materials I use or do not use in the reactor, even if projected in the future.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  408. While we wait for the independent report, here is an exclusive radio interview with Andrea Rossi. He discusses his feelings about music, and his experience playing the drums. This appears this week’s “Tom and Doug Show” which is broadcast on WOOL-FM, KHOI-FM and other stations on the Pacifica Network.

    Here is a link to the internet version of the program:
    http://tomanddoug.com/podcasts/TDShow470.mp3

  409. Andrea Rossi

    Thomas Florek:
    Thank you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  410. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Looking to the future – do you think eCat technology could be employed on the Earth’s moon, but using 3He instead of 1H? Please let me know if the result could be positive or negative (LOL)

  411. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Honestly, I am not able to answer. Being an experimentalist, I will answer you when I will go to the moon, try it with a series of tests and I will satellite you the results, positive or negative as they might be.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  412. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    The analysis I presented was regarding what would happen if the world population increased to 10 billion AND the per capita energy consumption of everyone reached the current USA level. Other than solar or hydro, energy production uses the energy stored within the fuel (nuclear, coal, natural gas or eCat). Since eCat emits no greenhouse gases nor dangerous residuals as in nuclear power generation, eCat could replace most other fuel-based systems without adversely affecting the Earth.

  413. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Thank you for your futuristic insight,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  414. Andrea Rossi

    AlainCo:
    He,he,he…did the old expert of Los Alamos you heard of look like Peter Sellers? ( experimental observations reserve surprises).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  415. While we wait for the independent report, here is an exclusive radio interview with Andrea Rossi. He discusses his feelings about music, and his experience playing the drums. This appears this week’s “Tom and Doug Show” which is broadcast on WOOL-FM, KHOI-FM and other stations on the Pacifica Network.

    Here is a link to the internet version of the program:
    http://tomanddoug.com/podcasts/TDShow470.mp3

  416. Just a funny question (the rest is either positive or negative).

    Do you plan to build a tea kettle ? (even if it boils 10 tons of lyophilized tea)

    It seems that from old expert of Los Alamos I heard of, only a tea kettle can make them change their position.

    Scientific papers seems to have no value for most scientists. (experimental observation).

  417. georgehants

    Dear Mr. Rossi, as there is very little info coming, could you confirm that you prefer British tea to American coffee.
    I hope that is not covered by a NDA.
    Ha.
    Best wishes

  418. Andrea Rossi

    Georgehants:
    He,he,he…I prefer coffee, but after playing tennis tea is better. Obviously this is jamesbondy language to talk about the catalyzers of the E-Cat (!) dodging the NDA.
    Warm Regards,
    A.

  419. Rodney Nicholson

    Hi Andrea:

    I predict that, while the original design (your ‘Bologna model’) had many E-cat units set up ‘in parallel’, the design of the newest industrial model has multiple E-cat modules set up ‘in series’, with the coolant temperature rising step by step as it passes each unit.

    As an economist I enjoy predicting things. Of course my predictions are not always correct!

    Rodney Nicholson.

  420. Andrea Rossi

    Rodney Nicholson:
    Obviously we all have freedom of prediction!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  421. Steven N. Karels

    Sent from my iPhone

    On Jul 20, 2014, at 8:49 PM, “Steven Karels” wrote:

    Too Much Heat?

    If the world switched to eCat technology for all of its energy needs, would the planet become too warm?

    Assumptions:

    1. ECat technology used to generate electricity for all forms of energy produced (heating, cars, electrical).
    2. World population of 10 billion (10,000,000,000) people
    3. All people consume at the USA per capita level.
    4. Effective conversion efficiency is 30% (Carnot of 45% plus COP of 6)
    5. If the total man-made energy release is less than 1% of the solar insolation, then no excessive heating should be observed

    Given:
    1. The total solar energy absorbed by Earth’s atmosphere, oceans and land masses is approximately 3,850,000 exajoules (EJ) per year or 3.85 * 10^^24 Joules
    2. USA per capita energy consumption per year = 300 GJ or 3 * 10^^11 J per year per person (USA)

    Computation:
    1.0 * 10^^10 people * 3 * 10^^9 J/(year – person) = 3 * 10^^19 J per year
    Accounting for a 30% efficiency means the amount of heat released per year is 1.0 * 10^^20 J

    Therefore, since the amount of energy released, (with everyone on the planet consuming as much energy as the average American), the net increase is less than 1% of 1% of the solar insolation and excess heating should not be a problem. This, without the release of greenhouse gases.

  422. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    The heat produced from the E-Cats is in substitution, not in addition, to the average.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  423. silvio caggia

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    Reading between lines, it seems to me that the 1MW plant 001 is an evolution from the bologna container, while the TIP report is about the hot-cat cylinder module.
    This could explain why the positive or negative results of the last has no direct relation with the results of the first…
    My idea is that the goal of the last is to study the “rossi effect” by itself, while the object of the first is the industrial application of the effect…
    To make an automotive metafora: can we say hot-cat is like a “formula 1″ car while 1MW plant is like a “rally” car?

  424. Andrea Rossi

    Silvio Caggia:
    Yes, you are correct.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  425. Lata

    Hi Andrea,
    As a mother of two little kids, I must reprimand you for constantly saying results will be positive or negative. It is like showing a kid a candy wrapper. When the kid gets interested, you say candy may or may not be in there. I believe you must be a grandfather. It is not very grandfatherly for you to be teasing your followers :-)

    Regards and Good Luck,
    Lata

  426. Andrea Rossi

    Lata:
    I am sorry for your feeling, but I am not playing with candies. For what concerns the Third Independent Party report, there is nothing I can do but waiting the publication, which does not depend on me and I cannot have more information. Regarding the 1 MW plant, we cannot give any specific information before we are allowed to publish the data of its operations. We cannot risk to give data that eventually could become substantially different. Imagine you have candies you do not know what are they made with and you have to say to your children “I cannot give you these candies until I am not sure they are positive for you”.
    Thank you for your kind attention,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  427. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Photos are nice, but I would rather see test data – output versus input.

  428. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Of course. As I said, photos and data will be published when the visits will be allowed.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  429. Giuliano Bettini

    Andrea,
    georgehants says: “Come on, keep the galley happy, give us a small clue.”
    I propose, just a Selfie with the new 1 MW plant.
    All celebrities make a Selfie now. =D
    Thanks
    Giuliano Bettini

  430. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    We will publish the photos of the new 1MW plant .
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  431. georgehants

    Dear Mr. Rossi, Sherlock Holmes father Conan Doyle always knew that Sherlock had to give a few hints to the readers to keep them interested.
    Come on, keep the galley happy, give us a small clue.

  432. Andrea Rossi

    Georgehants:
    There are no clues, just very sophisticated measurements of which we are waiting the results.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  433. Angel Blume

    Dear Andrea,

    Precedent post did not arrive.

    My question:
    Apart from publication of TIP results, could you publish your own results with magnitude values.

    Best regards

    Angel

  434. Andrea Rossi

    Angel Blume:
    We will publish, from now on, only results of plants in operation. The Third Independent Report will be the last report published regarding an experiment on the current E-Cat or Hot Cat, , at least until we will not introduce significant modifications. We cannot give any further information about our plants until the opening of visits to our industrial plant in operation. About the TIP Report: it is not “so long delayed”, it is running through the normal reviewing period of any important scientific publication. There is no doubt that the results will be important, positive or negative as they might be.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  435. Angel Blume

    Dear Adrea,

    I have followed your work with great expectation since spring 2011. Apart from the publication of the Third Independent Party conclusions which are being so long delayed, are your own results positive or negative? Any figures of physical magnitudes herein?

    Best regards

    Angel

  436. Andrea Rossi

    Angel Blume:
    We will publish nothing before the publication of the Third Independent Party. We must confront it before any further communication.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  437. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    What is the size of the workforce working on the 1MW plant?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  438. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Compared to you, Sherlock Holmes was a dummy! ( he,he,he…I can’t give specific information now).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  439. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    I am glad to hear you speak so highly of your team — it must make your job so much easier. It is difficult to conceive of a masterpiece that doesn’t work as you intend!

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  440. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Between Engineers, technicians, workers, Computer designer, the Team that worked on this 1 MW plant has been composed by 15 persons, plus me.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  441. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Have there been any restrictions placed on the testers about what they can do with the E-Cat reactors you gave them for their testing — if so, what are those restrictions?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  442. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    In Raleigh area the standard level of employees’ professional background is very high. Every member of our team, whatever his level and profession, has the highest level of professionality one can hope for, from the welder to the engineer. Working with them you feel what means to play in the Majors. When I say that we are making a masterpiece I really mean it.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  443. Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi, just wanted to say I loved your comment to Curiosone about your lack of sleep,
    plus you shared the credit with your Team.
    You are first class !
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale Florida
    usa

  444. Andrea Rossi

    Robert Curto:
    Our team is making a terrific job. We are making a masterpiece.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  445. H-G Branzell

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    If the third party test comes out negative, what are the chances that the one MW plant that you are so busy building will work?

  446. Andrea Rossi

    H-G Branzell:
    He,he,he…good question. As a matter of fact these are two separated issues. Both are under exam.
    Theoretically, if one goes well there is no reason why the other go bad, and viceversa. Both results will arrive after a long term run, so both results will be reliable, positive or negative as they might be.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  447. Curiosone

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    The 1 MW plant that you are making now is still a remake of the one we saw in the 2012 test of Bologna?
    Thank you,
    W.G.

  448. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    I can say this: the 1 MW plant we are working upon has been manufactured in the USA, in the factory of Industrial Heat. It is substantially different from the one we made the test of in Bologna, because during these 2 years I did not sleep too much and because I am working with a top class Team.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  449. Curiosone

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    Thank you again for your answer on quarks. You are a good teacher.
    W.G.

  450. georgehants

    Dear Mr. Rossi, while you and IH wait for the results of the new report, I take it that you and they are continuing your good work on LENR.
    Would you say that the progress being made fits in with your personal expectations of the E-cats abilities.
    Many thanks.

  451. Andrea Rossi

    Georgehants:
    My work now is focused on the new 1 MW plant. As soon as we will have results that will available for publication, we will publish them. So far, pending the tests on the 1 MW plant and an R&D work of our team that could result in positive or negative results, we cannot give specific information.
    Than you for your attention,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  452. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    What effect does it have on your work to be located in the heart of the Research Triangle in North Carolina?

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  453. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    The protocol of the experiment will be published in the report. I am not authorized to give previous information about any issue regarding the experiment .
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  454. Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi,

    Black, grey, white; It doesn’t matter what color the cat, what’s important is whether it heats the factory!

    :D

    Joseph Fine

  455. alutam

    Andrea,
    You say positive or negative as though they are the only two possibilities.
    What about “inconclusive”?
    Regards

  456. Andrea Rossi

    alutam:
    Maybe too, you are right. Like black, grey, white.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  457. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Would you consider the installation of the initial 1MW plant the start of mass production?

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  458. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    In this place History has been made by some of the most imporant concerns of the USA.
    Besides, the Nature here is wonderful.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  459. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Thank you, useful info as usual. A gift for our Readers.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  460. Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi,

    Today, I received a paper from Drs. Fred Mayer and John Reitz which discusses Compton Composite Particles (i.e. Tresinos) in the early Universe. The message below is self-explanatory, but I am saddened that one of papers’ co-authors is no longer with us. The paper discusses their cosmological theories and the topic of dark matter. This subject may be of interest to astrophysicists, but may also be of interest to many others.

    Composite Regards,

    Joseph Fine

    //////

    Dear Colleagues,
    It is my pleasure to forward our new (open source) paper “Compton Composites Late in the Early Universe” to you. Unfortunately, it is also a sad moment because my mentor, colleague, and co-author, John Reitz, passed away just a few days before our paper was to appear.
    -Fred Mayer

    http://www.mdpi.com/2075-4434/2/3/382

  461. Curiosone

    Sorry, another question I forgot to ask for an answer: is it true that in the CERN accelerator protons speed makes them become smaller?
    Again, thank you,
    W.G.

  462. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone,
    Here are the answers to both comments of yours.
    Protons and neutrons are both made by 3 quarks; a proton is made by 2 UP quarks, each with an electric charge of +2/3 and a DOWN quark, with a charge of -1/3, so that the resulting charge is +1;
    neutrons are made by 2 DOWN and 1 UP, so that the resulting charge is 0.
    These quarks that make up the protons and the neutrons are called the “valence quarks”. The valence quarks are sorrounded by means of virtual particles, which are gluons, quark-antiquark pairs, so that the rest mass of protons and neutrons is much higher than the bare sum of the rest mass of the valence quarks. While the virtual particles around the valence quarks are in permanent revolution to make glad my friend Orsobubu, the number of the valence quarks remains fixed, so that if you add the total # of quark inside a proton, UP are always 2 more than the antiUP while likewise the # of DOWN is always 1 more than antiDOWN; in neutrons, DOWN are always 2 more than antiDOWN, UP are always 1 more than antiUP.
    Richard Feynmann named all these particles PARTONS.
    When protons ride around the Large Hadron Collider of CERN they reach a speed very close to the speed of the light; this fact, along the laws of the Relativity, make them become thinner: imagine a ball that becomes a subtle disk.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  463. Curiosone

    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    Another question of Physics, if you have time: of what are made protons and neutrons? I know, they are made by quarks, but can you explain some more ?
    Thank you for your patience,
    W.G.

  464. Andrea Rossi

    Daniel De Caluwè:
    If a LENR system works, it does not need public funding. If anything that works well needs funding, money arrives from investors. Think to Microsoft, Apple, etc. There are things that need public funding because they are important but do not produce profit, or the perspective of profits are too much distant in time to make them appealing for capital investments; in those cases is necessary that governments make funding: for example CERN, the conquer of Space, things like these. But it is not the case of LENR.
    This is my opinion, obviously it can be wrong.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  465. Daniel De Caluwé

    Dear dr. Rossi,

    Regarding the discussion about public or private funding of LENR, I can image that, in your case, you got a lot of dishonnest competition from wannebee competitors that are payed by taxpayer money (public funding), or by people who don’t play it very honestly, and was that the reason why, in your answer to Lande (who gave examples of the necessity of public funding in other fields), you wrote that LENR is a totally different thing.

    But why? I personally strongly believe that we, the people of the world (and we’re already with 7 billion on this globe, and we will be with 10 billion in 2050 or so), need very much LENR, because, (although there still are sceptics, especially in the United States), I studied very deeply the present climate change, and I know there is a problem (mainly caused by human activities), and also I know our nuclear power industry and its plants very well, and I know we need a better solution. So, as the present technologies are not good enough and could bring us in danger on the longer term (as well fossil fuels as present nuclear industry), do you agree that there should be (and probably will be an increasing) intrest and even demand from the public, maybe already in the near future? I personally think this will legitimate public funding, for the simple reason that the world needs it.

    Kind Regards,

  466. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    If the scientists performing the third party report figure out how the E-Cat works on their own – perhaps confirming by replicating the E-Cat – would you allow them to publish the details?

  467. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    The Third Independent Party, as such, is INDEPENDENT.
    They can publish what they want independently from me and whatever the results, positive or negative.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  468. Lande

    Dear mr Rossi,

    regarding your statement
    “I am totally contrary to public funding of LENR. It is a high risk field, that must be funded by enterpreneurs, not by taxpayers. Taxpayers must not be exposed to industrial risks.”

    I believe we have many industrial fields that started with public scientific research funding and which later was beneficial for humand kind. Like the Space and Moon race in the 1950′s and 60′s. Or the public funded research of Nuclear power for peaceful use, which have given us the Nuclear Power industry. So I don’t think it’s necessary a bad thing for the Public to fund high risk ventures, when the possible reward for the society are very high.

    And I may add that Public actually are exposed to industrial risks every day from the present Nuclear power plants, which have only limited liability against major Nuclear accidents….

    regards
    Lande

  469. Andrea Rossi

    Lande:
    Yes, the cases you cited are right, but LENR are a totally different thing.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  470. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    At what point do you expect you will be able explain how the E-Cat Works?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  471. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland,
    It is impossible now to give an answer.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  472. H-G Branzell

    Dear Andrea Rossi, you wrote:

    “Yes, I agree about public funding of basic and foundamental research: without it the CERN could not exist. But the case of LENR is totally different.”

    Maybe when the second independent third party report is published it will not be totally different?

    /H-G Branzell

  473. Andrea Rossi

    H-G Branzell:
    Depends on the results
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  474. Giovanni Guerrini

    @ orsobubu
    Sorry,but I am not a keinesians,my thinking is more close to Jean Baptiste Say’s thinking.
    Maybe I did not explain well my ideas.
    I think that humanity evolution mast go on and it happens through natural laws. We are the product of nature and the human system is a natural system. Included freedom of choice.
    I think that Thecnology is the first way for our evolution and revolution,givin us more time for loving,thinking and everything is aligned with ours desires and attitudes. In a word, freedom.

    Regards G G

  475. orsobubu

    >I am totally contrary to public funding of LENR. It is a high risk field, that must be funded by enterpreneurs, not by taxpayers. Taxpayers must not be exposed to industrial risks

    Perhaps you could agree at least about public funding of basic, fundamental research; this is widespread policy also in United States. This way, the capitalistic state can boost the national competitivity in global markets, employ and specialize large masses of workers and at the same time replace the capitalists when they cannot risk big capitals in long term programs. Then, when there are some results, capitalists can take advantage of this generous public help, exploit the discoveries and bring them to market and make the bucks. Obviously, I’m not a keynesian, so I don’t agree either, but this is a common political economy that gave impressive results in the past. Mr Guerrini asks you to turn keynesian, but I know that we’re for the revolution and will resist the temptation.

  476. Andrea Rossi

    Orsobubu:
    Yes, I agree about public funding of basic and foundamental research: without it the CERN could not exist. But the case of LENR is totally different.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  477. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    You have mentioned that you have made a strong investment in time, money and manpower in trying to replicate all LENR processes you can learn about from others through their available patent applications.

    Can you explain why this is such a priority for you when you have a huge job ahead of you in developing your own products?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  478. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    For to explain the theory behind its operation is necessary the start of the mass production.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  479. Giovanni Guerrini

    Dott Rossi,
    I agree with you.

    Regards G G

  480. silvio caggia

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    about clowneries: Best way to hide a needle is to put a lot of straw around it. :-)
    About Ikegami-Petterson system and Brian Ahern System: do you think they use different technologies from your e-cat but share the same phisical effect or we are admiring an incredible series of new phisical discoveries?

  481. Andrea Rossi

    Silvio Caggia:
    Should I have to answer specifically to your good question, I would have to explain what happens inside the E-Cat’s reactor. Let’s delay the answer to when I will be able to explain how the E-Cat works.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  482. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Stunning, thank you very much for your usual useful information,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  483. Wladimir Guglinski

    eernie1 wrote in July 12th, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    1) ————————————-
    Dear Wlad,
    I am looking forward to the publication of your latest ansazt concerning the interaction of energy-matter.

    REPLY:
    Dear eernie1, the latest comment of mine concerning the interaction matter-energy is the item 11 of my paper AETHER STRUCTURE FOR UNIFICATION BETWEEN GRAVITY AND ELECTROMAGNETISM, submitted for publication two months ago to JoNP.
    I hope the paper will be published in Nov-2014

    2) ————————————
    I assume you are attempting to also explain the involvement of gravitational effects in your dissertation.

    REPLY:
    Yes

    3)—————————————-
    Do you present a different argument for the presence of only an attractive gravitational effect?

    REPLY:
    The paper proposes how strings formed by fluxes of gravitons, electricitons, and magnetons, are criated within the structures of the electron and proton, responsible for their electro-magnetic-gravitaty field

    4)——————————————–
    Also what have you decided for the speed of the effect? Is it instantaneous or does it propagate at the speed of light as determined by a Chinese experimenter who measured the speed by using tidal effects caused by the moons mass?

    REPLY:
    The speed of light

    regards
    wlad

  484. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Your paper arrived damaged: please send it again as an attachment to an email to be mailed to:
    info@journal-of-nuclear-physics.com
    Do not use Leonardo’s email address, please.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  485. Giovanni Guerrini

    And I refer not only to the man of the street:
    http://iononfaccioniente.wordpress.com/2014/03/21/ancora-uninterrogazione-parlamentare-sulla-fusione-fredda/

    I think this is another “Rossi’s effect” !

    Regards G G

  486. Andrea Rossi

    Giovanni Guerrini:
    I am totally contrary to public funding of LENR. It is a high risk field, that must be funded by enterpreneurs, not by taxpayers. Taxpayers must not be exposed to industrial risks.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  487. Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi,

    The following links descibe the “MiniSpec” – a recently developed compact Gamma Ray Spectrometer. MiniSpec connects wirelessly to a Smartphone and displays radiation intensity and Gamma Spectra. It was developed by Prof. Abi Farsoni of Oregon State University. This device can be used for environmental safety/security. Also, to make you aware that Gamma Spectrometers have been getting smaller and smaller.

    MiniSpec (Gamma Spectrometer)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmirNBEoGYU

    http://oregonstate.edu/ua/ncs/archives/2014/jul/sophisticated-radiation-detector-designed-broad-public-use

    High Energy Regards,

    Joseph Fine

  488. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Is this masterpiece so good that you will duplicate it many times — or is this a custom project?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  489. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    I did not say “I made a strong investment in time, money and manpower trying to replicate all LENR processes of the competitors”: I wrote “WE ( etc)”. We have set up a team of specialists for this purpose, to learn exactly what our competition does. I am not involved in this work, because, as you correctly say, I have other priorities, but I Always read the results to keep me informed and updated.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  490. Giovanni Guerrini

    Dear Dott Rossi,
    if I should be in your clothes I’d not be worried,because in the market there is the true.
    When you give an E-CAT to a scientist,he wants know how it works,when you give it to an industrialist he wants to see a good performance that gives him a lot of money.
    So he is very happy and this is the greatest evidence that the E-CAT works well.
    I think this is a synthesis,because the E-CAT could “save the world” exploiting a human “fault”,but this is a personal thinking.

    Mark,
    for “a lot of people” I was talking about the “man of the street”, the people who ,3-4 years ago,did’n know anything about lenr or “cold fusion”,now I have noticed that a lot of them say “oh,now there is the cold fusion!”.They are the same persons who said to me “cold fusion? Ah,it doesn’t work..”
    This could be a cultural effect of another “Rossi’s effect”.
    It seems that they have lost their memory,and I enjoy myself saying “oh,is it true?!”.
    Everyone enjoy himself as he can. eh eh.

    Regards G G

  491. Todd Burkett

    Hello Andrea
    Did your replication efforts include Blacklight powers suncell tech?
    As Dr.Mills hydrino is not a LENR, but a possible competing energy source?

  492. Andrea Rossi

    Todd Burkett:
    We have made substantial investments to replicate ALL the experiments reported in patents and publications. I repeat : ALL. I am sure that, at least in some cases, we know those Technologies better than the inventors themselves. We are taking LENR of our potential competitors very seriously and I confrm what I answered to Giovanni Guerrini today.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  493. Koen Vandewalle

    Andrea,
    Why would anyone in his right mind try to compete with you ?
    It is extremely pointless. A waste of time and effort.

    If your tech were open-sourced, then there would be some contest.
    If the music is the same, the dancers can compete.

    I’ve been watching “Le Concert”.
    I still wonder what role would suit me.
    Do you know what role suits you ?

    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  494. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle :
    Le Concert: the director of the orchestra of the Bolscioi has been reduced to a janitor for crimes he did not commit……… What a wonderful movie, probably the best I ever have seen in my life.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  495. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    If you not only tested patented concepts but also know how, does that mean Ikegami’s proposal for a “lithium permeated grain metal” system – using not only nickel but also lithium and magnesium – may have validity or may work? The paper which details the concept can be found here.

    http://www.roxit.ax/CN.pdf

    The above paper also explains a theory of how transmutations of nickel into copper may not be the primary energy source. It actually goes into a lot of detail in what reactions may be taking place. I’m very curious to know if you consider the paper and proposal clownery, or something potentially real and worthy of being studied.

  496. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    The Ikegami- Peterson theory is worth to be studied.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  497. Mark

    @GG
    “People”? There are people still literally believe that the earth is only 6000 year-old. Depending on who you are talking to I suppose. “A lot”??? Where???. Other horses could be Mitsubishi heavy industries……end of the day from the consumers perspective, the more genuine competitors to the field the better.

  498. Giovanni Guerrini

    …three years ago a lot of people said that this technology did not exist…now there are a lot of horses and people that say ” I said that lenr works !”.
    I enjoy myself very much ! eh eh .

    Regards G G

  499. Andrea Rossi

    Giovanni Guerrini:
    I agree with you, but I am very worried of the wannabe competitors that now are presenting clowneries, like did Defkalion: they are very dangerous, because their failures will spray dirt on our work, as well as defkalion did: our enemies are eager to find another defkocones to say that all LENR world is a clownerie. Therefore I want to say sound and clear: we have replicated all the existing patents and know hows regarding the LENR existing in the world and no one of them has manifested a real heat excess with the following exceptions: Ikegami-Petterson system and Brian Ahern System. These are the only two systems that actually gave us evidence of a heat excess. All the other systems that we have reproduced ( and we have reproduced, with huge investments, all of the systems that have been proposed in all the world in the last 20 years, with particular attention on the experiments made in the last 4 years, that have been analyzed with extreme endeavour) have not given any heat excess evidence. One of them had put in the market a “kit” that has turned out to be a joke. I have to say this to make well clear that any future failure coming from all the burlesque reactors persented recently have nothing to do with our work and has not any right to cite our work as a reference without our explicit permission.
    I hope this has been understood sound and clear, because I have been strongly disturbed form all the insults I had to sustain after the clownerie of the def… has been put in evidence, even if I had said from the beginning that def… was a clownerie. Much before Others have put it in evidence.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  500. eernie1

    Dear Wlad,
    I am looking forward to the publication of your latest ansazt concerning the interaction of energy-matter. I assume you are attempting to also explain the involvement of gravitational effects in your dissertation. Do you present a different argument for the presence of only an attractive gravitational effect? Also what have you decided for the speed of the effect? Is it instantaneous or does it propagate at the speed of light as determined by a Chinese experimenter who measured the speed by using tidal effects caused by the moons mass?

  501. Mark

    LATA
    It is all about “could be positive or negative” at this stage and I generously give 3 figures. If Andrea is all out on “positive” I will gladly add a few more zeros on.
    There are other horses in the market and Andrea , you don’t want to be too late!

  502. Andrea Rossi

    Mark:
    We are working under a tremendous pressure, but we are working well. Other horses? That’s what competition is!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  503. Lata

    Andrea,

    Someone suggested that the first 1MW plant has a serial number of 001. Should you not reserve at least twelve digits for the serial number, like 000 000 000 001. If everyone in the world had an e-cat, nine digits won’t be enough. Long time ago, Bill Gates allegedly said, “who needs more than 640K of memory?”! You don’t want to make that kind of mistake.

    Regards and Good Luck,
    Lata

  504. Andrea Rossi

    Lata:
    He,he,he…
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  505. Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in July 11th, 2014 at 5:12 PM

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Please just submit the appendix as an appendix to your paper. We cannot publish twice the same paper.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    ———————————————–

    OK,
    the appendix was sent to JoNP, having the following item :

    11. The different mechanisms for energy-matter interaction

    regards
    wlad

  506. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    We received it, thank you. The paper has been already sent to the peer reviewer.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  507. Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in July 10th, 2014 at 7:04 AM

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    But if you have urgency, you can send your appendix first as a link in a comment to this blog – you can do this also right now, and it will be immediately published- and at the same time send it to the JoNP as you usually do, where it will be reviewed first, published eventually.

    COMMENT
    Dear Andrea
    there is no urgency, I only wished to know if there is no problem to incorporate a new item, and submit it again.

    I will send the paper again (with the new item incorporated to it) to the JoNP.

    regards
    wlad

  508. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Please just submit the appendix as an appendix to your paper. We cannot publish twice the same paper.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  509. orsobubu

    >Our Team is making a masterpiece. But I must add that…(Orsobubu, please complete this phrase)

    Our Team is making a masterpiece. But I must add that energy production systems are in permanent revolution. Also I must add that we don’t know if the masterpiece could possibly work or there is a chance that it does not work at all

  510. Andrea Rossi

    Orsobubu:
    Perfect: any number can be negative or positive, whatever the figure.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  511. Wladimir Guglinski

    Dear Andrea

    I had a new insight on how works the mechanism of interaction matter-energy, and I would like to incorporate it to my paper AETHER STRUCTURE FOR UNIFICATION BETWEEN GRAVITY AND ELECTROMAGNETISM, submitted to the Journal of Nuclear Physics 2 months ago.

    As the time of the peer review process is about 6 months, I would like to know if I can write a new additional item in the paper, and submit it again to the JoNP.

    regards
    wlad

  512. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Welcome back!
    We have a long list of articles under peer review, and your appendix has to be reviewed anyway, I cannot tell you how much time it takes, I am not your reviewer. But if you have urgency, you can send your appendix first as a link in a comment to this blog – you can do this also right now, and it will be immediately published- and at the same time send it to the JoNP as you usually do, where it will be reviewed first, published eventually.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  513. Mark

    Hi Andrea
    A piece of great technological history, whoever has got the first unit serial number 001.

  514. Andrea Rossi

    Mark:
    I agree. Whatever the results.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  515. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    How is work on the 1MW plant progressing?

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  516. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    This is the 1 MW that will be produced in series.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  517. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Regarding the 1MW plant you are installing at a customer’s factory: Did it pass the required tests at your factory satisfactorily before you took it to the new location?

    And happy independence day — how have you celebrated the holiday?

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  518. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Our Team is making a masterpiece. But I must add that…(Orsobubu, please complete this phrase)
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  519. Carlo Marcena

    At this point, having seen the long time professors are taking to issue their TP report, I am quite sure that they are going to give us good news. In fact, disclosing negative results and avoiding any disturbance to the energy “business as usual”, would have been much more easy, and fast.
    Regards to everybody,

    CM

  520. Here is a movie-trailer for the upcoming feature-length film called “Andrea Rossi: Revolution”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHJ6julvoMg

  521. Andrea Rossi

    Thomas Florek:
    Thank you and good luck for your work.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  522. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    Since the publication of the TPR seems a relatively long time away I would like to continue this line of thought to perhaps fill the time with some interesting discussion.
    OF course I am speaking of electron capture by nuclei of heavier elements. The proton capture of electrons to produce neutrons however is an ongoing discussion among various groups(Mills et al) which want to explain LENR with this reaction. Other groups(Italian priest et al)claim to have produced neutrons in this manner and have proposed a few sources for the missing 780kev of mass. From heavy electrons to vacuum space energy to acceleration effects, the theories continue.
    I think I have previously stated that attempting to explain the LENR effect by fusing H or D is the hard way to proceed. It is much easier and takes much less energy to manipulate electrons, especially when aided by the large coulomb forces within the nucleus of heavy atoms. When the electron fields are inside the nucleus all sorts of reactions can be proposed especially with the interaction of the weak forces. They can cause Beta emission, neutrino emission and even ejection of electrons from the atom along with a variety of energetic photons. All these have been reported in published reports by various highly regarded scientific authors.
    What ever the case, I look forward with great interest the publication of your theory.
    Thank you for all the enjoyable discussions you have provided me and continued good luck on your development efforts.

  523. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Thanks to you!
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  524. Andrew

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    What you keep saying about the schedule of the pubblication is completely understandable, and there is no doubt that (considering previous events) several months of keen review of data, it’s the only way to proceed.
    Having that said, there is one thing I do not understand.
    You have to agree with me that the magnitude of the ‘Rossi effect’ that you claim It s not that hard to test. I mean they have to test a cop a lot grater than 1. Grater enough to be economically competitive to other forms of energy. If indeed it could take several months to public a report, I am absolutely sure that it would not take more than a week to a serious expert professor to state wheather the apparatus meets your claims .
    This means that at this point they know without any reasonable doubt if the Cat works or not.
    And that leads to the conclusion that there is no reason for them to not share (at least with you) their results.
    What do you think?

  525. Andrea Rossi

    Dear Andrew:
    In the first part of your comment you answered to the second part. Besides, the peer review of a scientific publication takes minimum 3 months maximum one year.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  526. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear Andrea,
    some days ago (July 1st, 2014) you wrote “It is true that now and again I make a phone call to the Professors to ask about the scheduling of the publication.”
    Me too. hehe…, not a phone call to the Professors but a request to you.
    =D
    But later (on July 5th, 2014) you said “it won’t take too long the publication of the report”.
    It would be interesting to know if it’s some new news or just a guess.
    And if it’s a news, what “not too long” means? Days?
    Best regards,
    Giuliano Bettini.

  527. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    Only a guess. Not days, anyway, nor weeks. Several months, is my guess.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  528. Dear Andrea Rossi,
    In beta+ decay, a proton converts itself to neutron by emitting a W+ boson, which in turn decays to positron and neutrino. In electron capture, the same happens except that the W+ boson absorbs an electron to emit a neutrino. Both processes are described by the same Feynman diagram interaction vertex, so from the QFT point of view, there is no difference between beta+ decay and electron capture.

    In proton-rich beta+ active nuclei, electron capture is always possible in principle, while positron emission can only occur when the energy excess is sufficient to create a positron. When energy excess is above the limit, positron emission is typically more probable than electron capture (because it has a smaller number of input particles, I assume).

    The relationship between beta+ decay and electron capture is somewhat analogous with the spontaneous and stimulated emission of photons. In QED all those processes are described by a single interaction vertex and a single coupling constant (the fine-structure constant), although the phenomenology of the processes is quite different: one describes ordinary bodies, the other describes a laser. It took Einstein to realise this.

    As you pointed out, a free proton cannot spontaneously turn into a neutron by this coupling because it is energetically not possible.

    Best regards, /pekka

  529. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    Not to belabor the question, but as reported by many sources(including Fermi) one of the most common modes of radioactive decay(Beta- or Beta+) is postulated to be caused by electron capture including 56Ni. In all cases the resulting reaction involves the subsequent emission of a neutrino along with the Betas. The reports also measured Auger electrons and x rays which were predicted to occur when the upper electrons fell down into the vacated inner orbits(K shell). There seems to be a large consensus among researchers that electron capture does occur. If as you say the emission of the neutrinos cannot explain the conservation of parity, what else can?

  530. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Beta+ and Beta- decay, discovered by Fermi, are totally different things from electron capture. They are mediated in the weak force field by the W bosons, which are the sole bosons, with Z boson, the other boson that mediates the weak forces, able to change the identity of the particles they interact with inside the nucleus, not outside: the electron and the positron emitted, respectively, from the Beta- and the Beta+ decay are generated from the nucleus of the atom and have nothing to do with the K field of the electrons .
    About the electron capture:
    p + e^- = n + nu_e
    does not conserve the energy, therefore I can’t see how they can respect the parity. Make the math:
    p = 938.3 MeV
    n = 939.6 MeV
    e^+ = 0.5110 MeV
    nu_e = 2.2 eV
    The difference is equal to 1.6 times circa the mass of an electron.
    Electron captures can happen, it is true, exceptionally, but in case of instable atoms with a strong excess of protons, because in that case we have an exceptional exchange of photons between the nucleons and the K field of the electrons, but this is not our case. They are the classic exception that confirms the rule.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  531. Dave Lafleur

    Dr. Rossi,
    I find your work credible and am excited to see the potential for your science. I wonder if you would care to comment on any career advice in this field of what could be a major breakthrough. Boilermaker?

  532. Andrea Rossi

    Dave Lafleur:
    At the moment we have the safety certifications only for industrial plants. Industrial utilization of heat is the more profitable field, because in this field is possible to operate 24/7/360.
    Boilermaker surely could be an option. But remind that the results of the tests in course could be negative, so let’s be conservative so far. Thank you for your enthusiasm, though.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  533. Mark

    Andrea
    I also predict that the EHV and HV grids will disappear and be replaced by smart Mv and Lv grids. The reason why we have EHV and HV grids, is transmission efficiency over long distances. They will be no longer required with local Hotcat boosters compensators, which can do the job more efficiently and cheaply. Maybe there will be a smart grid, which can coordinate the number of online Hotcats and generators to the most demanding areas via the internet.

  534. Mark

    Hello Andrea
    I predict this scenario will happen when the Hotcat is available for sale. The grids and utilities will approach you and buy them in the thousands. They will fit them together with the suitable generators and inverters inside the substations or along the transmission lines to boost the power output of their grids cheaply and become very competitive in running cost to your home Ecat versions. The last thing they want, is people getting off grid. Mark.

  535. Andrea Rossi

    Mark:
    I predict another scenario: if the validity of the so called Rossi Effect will find confirmation in the report of the TIP and in the operation of the first plants installed, this technology will have the development within the limits of its potentiality inside the market. I am not able to know specifically in this period where these limits will set, but, as I Always said, there will be in any case an integration. What we will have, if all this will work, will be a new fire to be used. Anybody will be able to change fire, within the limits of the competitivity.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  536. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    L. Alvarez has written a number of papers on the electron capture process. He expanded on the foundation work of Wick and makes a good argument for it. Again perhaps I am misunderstanding your questions.

  537. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Of course, I know numbers of papers have been written about electron capture, and I read many of them, but this does not change the fact that leptons conservation law cannot be violated and that one neutrino does not conserve one electron. What I need to read is the report of the experiment in which an electron capture happened, with a credible, and not naif, explication how leptons conservation law has been respected.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  538. Dear Andrea Rossi,
    Electron capture (in the usual meaning of the term) is not a wrong concept because neutrino emission balances the lepton conservation law: p+e->n+nu_e.
    Whether electron capture has anything to do with LENR, I do not know.
    Best regards, /pekka

  539. Andrea Rossi

    Pekka Janhunen:
    your comment assumes that a neutrino is enough to conserve an electron, which is wrong.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  540. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    What do you see as the major opposition to eCat technology, assuming the TIR report is positive?

  541. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    I do not know, and I am an experimentalist: we will see.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  542. orsobubu

    Andrea, whith all this horrible drones swarming around, when publicly disclosing your current geographical position, please sidetrack the exact location by a couple of miles, just in case :)

  543. Andrea Rossi

    orsobubu:
    he,he,he…
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  544. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    I do not mean to take up your valuable time, but I think what you mean is that no sign of electron capture has been shown in any LENR experiments. The concept of electron capture(reverse Beta, internal conversion) has been shown in many experiments to be a viable effect. Usually a neutrino is emitted during the process which balances the electron spin parity. Perhaps I am missing something.

  545. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Send us a link to a publication wherein there is an electron capture with the respect of the lepton conservation: I never saw one. A neutrino is not enough to conserve the balance of leptons in an electron capture process!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  546. Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Part of energy price is due to market vision of its likely future scarcity due to depletion of some easily extractable oil and gas resources. Belief in the scientific and practical viability of the Rossi Effect will change the market vision, because it will provide an economic incentive for producers to sell more oil and gas before the products diminish in value too much. If this happens (i.e. if some produces indeed start to sell more oil and gas), the price of energy will drop. If that happens, it is obviously good for consumers, but it also reduces the E-cats’ profit margin.

    I realise that the above description is a bit complicated, so let me try a simpler version: Knowledge of E-cat might reduce energy price to some extent, possibly rapidly, so the E-cat in the market might face a somewhat tougher competition from traditional energies than what the present price levels would indicate.

    I hope the E-cat has enough “reserve” to be able to compete economically in a robust way even if the energy market changes as described above. Notice that the price change could come rapidly, much more rapidly than the availability of E-cat energy itself would affect the market by normal mechanisms.

    Best regards, /pekka

  547. Andrea Rossi

    Pekka Janhunen:
    I understand perfectly what you say, but I repeat that all energy sources will be integrated in the market along specific fields of competitivity, in a dynamic evolution.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  548. eernie1

    Andrea,
    I have noticed that the bloggers on Vortex-l are discussing internal conversion through electron capture as a possible LENR producer. They seem to look for reactions involving deuterium rather than in the metals used in LENR. I would suggest they read further the work of Fermi(Beta decay), Gian-Carlo Wick, L. Alvarez and Hideki Yucawa. If they do not understand or believe the reaction
    ,this research may aid them.

  549. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    I think electron capture is a wrong concept because it violates the leptons conservation law. I will, of course, be happy to say I am wrong as soon as I will be informed of substantial experimental evidence of it. So far, no trace of it I have been informed of.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  550. DTravchenko

    Dear Andrea, the customer that has bought the 1 MW plant is someway owned or has been also partially owned now or in past by Industrial Heat or by Leonardo Corp?
    Warm regards
    D.T.

  551. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    Raleigh, North Carolina, USA; in the factory of Industrial Heat, in the heart of the Research Triangle, where many mammoth companies have their R&D centers.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  552. “The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it.”
    Chinese Proverb.

    I think sometimes the Eastern philosophers can tell us a bit about how to approach a situation where we don’t know all of the details.

    Cheers,
    Mattias

  553. Andrea Rossi

    Mattias Andersson:
    Right!
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  554. DTravchenko

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    Where are you exactly in this moment, if I can ask?
    D.T.

  555. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    Not at all.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  556. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    You have stated the scientists doing the testing can perform whatever tests they see fit. Does this mean:

    1) They can perform any type of analysis (microscopic, elemental, isotopic) on the contents of the reactors – metals, gases, hydrides – that they desire?

    2) They can perform any type of analysis on the walls of the reactor?

    3) They can use the above info to attempt to build and replicate a hot cat? Cherokee has done this already, and I wonder if the TIP might be trying to do the same.

    4) They can publish any of the above findings in the report?

  557. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    What they are doing will be described in the report. I do not know what they are doing and I cannot give information about the protocol of the experiment, that surely will be published in the report.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  558. Curiosone

    Dr Rossi:
    I also wanted to ask: do you think it is more useful an instrument like this of the Lund University or the titanic facilities like CERN’s LHC ?
    W.G.

  559. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    These are two totally different things. LHC is a concern dedicated to theoretical Physics, to discover elementary particles that can be found only with unimmaginable energies in the common world. I strongly doubt that the particles discovered by apparatuses like the LHC will find a practical use, due to the costs of production. MAX IV and ESS are born to study any kind of material at costs that can be sustained to improve any product. In a nutshell, here is the principle upon which this system is based: when a beam of neutrons is aimed at a sample,some neutrons pass trough the material, some deviate with a characteristic angle that allows, analysing the deflection patterns and the energy of the neutrons, to get information regarding fundamental properties of the material targeted; for example, it will be possible to determine atomic and magnetic structures and to get a deeper understanding of the possible applications.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  560. Curiosone

    Dr Rossi:
    What do you think of the MAX IV and ESS ?
    (Google Lund University Max IV, ESS)
    W.G.

  561. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    I read that this fantastic plant is in the middle of an intensive development phase: this facility is like a gigantic microscope that, by means of neutrons, will allow to study materials more completely than ever. It will be extremely useful for all the scientific community.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  562. WaltC

    Andrea,
    The E-Cat detractors are getting desperate– to paraphrase how their complaints have evolved over time:

    1) It can’t work, the neutrons would kill you.
    2) Maybe neutrons aren’t a problem, but it’s only just a chemical reaction.
    3) Maybe it’s not chemical, but it’s not reproducible.
    4) Maybe it’s reproducible, maybe it works, but it’s not patentable because it happens in nature all the time. (So does Velcro/burrs which is patented.)
    5) Maybe it works, maybe it’s patentable, but he won’t share part of the profits with poor children.

    I wonder what they’ll come up with next?

    By the way, I believe the vast majority of the readers here completely trust your word– on profit sharing & many other things still to come.

    Walt C.

  563. Andrea Rossi

    WaltC:
    The E-Cat detractors are making a wonderful work: they do not know, but I read carefully all they say and write. Their critics sometimes are right, sometimes are not, but in both cases we learn from them. You have noticed that the more they fight against us the more we grow up and a scientific observation should put a ratio cause-effect between the criticism and our growth.
    About your paragraphs:
    1- no neutrons exit from the E-Cats
    2- quite difficult with the first and second thermodynamic principles
    3- we will see from the next Third Independent Party: maybe it is true, maybe not
    4- the patentability has nothing to do with the question if it works or not
    5- this is a very important paragraph, let us analyse it; first of all we must put a distinction between the objective and the subjective aspect of this issue;
    a- objective aspect: if the so called Rossi Effect works ( and let me remind to all that the results of the tests could be positive, but also negative) it will be useful for everybody, also for the children or all the world
    b- subjective aspect: I repeat what I wrote in another comment today: I gave my honour word that a relevant part of the profits of our work will be spent to fund the healthcare of children whose families cannot afford proper healthcare. I said it, my Team and I are doing it, we will do it. Do not ask me anymore about this issue, because this is an issue I want not to trumpet around.
    Thank you for your trust.
    You ask: what they will come up with next ? Whatever it will be, we will take advantage of it. In my life I had to overcome many, many, many very, very negative events and to survive I developed a skill to turn into positive a negative event: for example, when I have been put in prison for crimes I never made, I told to myself: ” what a wonderful occasion to study the LENR: now I lost everything I had, all my time can be dedicated to this”. It worked.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  564. Claud

    Dear Andrea, you say that “any attempt to stop a competitive product is a lost battle” but this is true only in a “perfect competition” environment that happens in a very limited macro-economics actual circumstances. Especially in the field of energy, which influences worldwide lifestyle and economy, the theoretical principles are defeated by geopolitical interests, weapon enforcement, big cartel price fixing and so on.
    Unfortunately the world goes without referring to economics textbooks.

  565. Andrea Rossi

    Claud:
    I am structurally optimist: if a product is competitive the Customers buy it. If a product is not competitive, the market will eliminate it. Period. I also have the luck to live in a Country where if something has a Worth, its Worth is always sustained: the USA.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  566. Andrea Rossi

    To the Readers:
    There is one thing that disturbs me, that is circulationg in minor blogs that have been reported to me: I am accused not to respect my honour word to spend relevant part of the profits produced by the Rossi Effect for the healthcare of children that cannot afford proper healthcare. I gave my word on this issue, and I always do what I say, even if this will not be trumpeted around.
    In due time and in due sites we will give information of this endeavour of us. I am very upset to have to write about this, but, unfortunately, the mother of the imbeciles is always pregnant and we must take care of what pops out.
    Andrea Rossi

  567. ettore

    Dear Andrea,

    to me it has always seemed as if the market is not as democratic as it should be. Power is not homogeneously distributed but rather concentrated on old established companies and networks.

    I am actually worried that some of these companies and networks have a large interest in disturbing or at least decelerating yours and other inventor’s work to conserve their power and position. Let us all do our best to not let them. As far as I am concerned I will.

    There are things whose importance lies beyond economical success.

    Best wishes,
    Ettore

  568. Andrea Rossi

    Ettore:
    I do not agree with you. Power is distributed in the cheapest way at the moment. Believe me: a product does not resist in the market if it is not competitive, and to decide if it is competitive or not is only one entity: THE CUSTOMER. For this reason we do not react to the stupidities said about our product, we just care the satisfation of the Customer, while the science of tests and experiments is essential to the development of a reliable industrial product. Any attempt to stop a competitive product is a lost battle, because the Customers will eliminate the non competitive ones.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  569. KeithT

    Dear Andrea,

    For the third party examinations, in addition to the Ecat is your theory also being examined.

    Best regards,

    Keith Thomson.

  570. curwin

    Andrea,

    Congratulations, not long now!

    Many LENR studies find some metal samples being tested reproduce the desired effect whilst other samples, often from the same batch, don’t. However, the majority of these studies use the electrolysis method.

    Does your method find that some batches of ‘fuel’ do not work as hoped, or have you completely overcome that problem?

    Best regards,
    Colin

  571. Andrea Rossi

    Curwin:
    This issue is typical of the systems based upon electrolysis . We do not use any kind of electrolysis.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  572. ettore

    Dear Dr. Andrea Rossi,

    your invention will relativise the meaning of money itself. Since such an enormous drop of the price of energy und it’s availability should strongly influence the economy.

    I think it would be very interesting to discuss the economical and societal impact of your invention.

    Best wishes,
    Ettore de Sio

  573. Andrea Rossi

    Ettore:
    I repeat: all the energy sources must be integrated. The commercial and social impact of the so called Rossi Effect will be made by that universal and democratic medium that is the market: in mercatu veritas.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  574. Ken

    Dr Andreawhile Rossi,

    How is the certification for the home user e-cats coming along? We haven’t heard much about them in awhile.

    Ken

  575. Andrea Rossi

    Ken:
    Before we get such a safety certification strong statistics of industrial plants safe operation are necessary. We are constantly working on this issue.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  576. LMV

    Hi Andrea,

    I for once completely agree with Andrew’s comment. Some photos will not hurt your company.

  577. Andrea Rossi

    LMV:
    I understand you all, but when we publish photos they are analized from professionals to the most microscopical level. Our photos are never trivial, if analyzed to that level, even if to you they can appear trivial. We will give all the specific possible information as soon as we will open the visits period. It won’t take too long, as well as it won’t take too long the publication of the report.
    Thanks to all of you for your strong attention, I understand the feeling, but we have to avoid a mess and an infinite theory of one ended discussions, not having the possibility, in this stage, to answer to the unavoidable tsunami of questions.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  578. Andrew

    Dr Andrea Rossi,
    For all of those people that support, believe and cheer for you, why don’t you give back a Little something? Such as some fresh new pictures of the working Plan or the hot Cat or whatever..
    That would Not violate your nda anyway
    Best regards

  579. Andrea Rossi

    Andrew:
    We are close to the moment in which abundance of what you are requesting will be poured in this blog and, maybe, somewhere else.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  580. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Thank you for your response to Giuliano Bettini below. These explanations are helpful to those of us who are following this story in making sense of the situation.

    Two follow-up questions if you don’t mind.

    1. Are the peer reviewers committed to publishing the report in the scientific magazine whatever the results might be — positive, negative, or inconclusive?

    2. If the peer reviewers refuse to publish the results for whatever reason, are the testers free to publish the results independently?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  581. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Before we deliver a plant it has to be tested in our factory.
    I celebrated my 4th of July studying History of the USA, playing tennis, swimming and biking. Tomorrow back at work.
    Hope you too got fun.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  582. DTravchenko

    Did I understand well? Did you say that this blog is useless to you? As I said, you are the worst enemy of yourself.
    D.T.

  583. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    In my answer to BroKeeper ( to which obviously you refer) I said anything but what you write. This blog is a true treasure for me and my team, because we learn here from our Readers an infinite amount of information that surely is strongly useful to our work. I just said that we did not get information useful regarding what happens inside the reactor’s core, and it is obvious, so long we do not give information, direct or indirect, about it.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  584. Curiosone

    I also would like to know if it is different from the 1 MW plant that has been tested in Bologna in October 2011
    W.G.

  585. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    Yes, it is different.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  586. Curiosone

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    Has the 1 MW plant been built in the USA in the factory of Industrial Heat of Raleigh, North Carolina?
    I hope this is not confidential,
    Godspeed,
    W.G.

  587. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    Yes
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  588. Andrea Rossi

    To all our USA Readers:
    Happy July 4th and remember that July 4th is not just a barbecue chance, but is maily to remember the fight to get Independence from any oppression. Freedom is not for free, also freedom from the stupidity of persons that do not understand a revolution.
    Andrea Rossi

  589. Pietro F

    Un tempaccio da quelle parti, ho letto che l’uragano Arthur sta arrivando sulla Carolina del nord, forse era meglio Miami!!! Buon lavoro ingeniere (per meriti).

    A bad weather in those parts, I read that the hurricane Arthur is coming on North Carolina, it was better to Miami! Good job engineer (for merit)

    Pietro F

  590. Andrea Rossi

    Pietro F:
    Yes, Arthur hit the coast, but the effect has been not so strong inland, where we work. Thank you for your feeling!
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  591. Bernie Koppenhofer

    Dr. Rossi: Below is an article about Dean Karmen and his sterling engine. 1) Do you think your E-Cat could effectively supply the heat? 2) Have you met Dean Karmen to discuss? If not, do you think a meeting with him would be productive? Thanks.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2014/07/02/dean-kamen-thinks-his-new-stirling-engine-could-power-the-world/?utm_campaign=techtwittersf&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

  592. Andrea Rossi

    Bernie Koppenhofer:
    I think that can be an interesting application.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  593. BroKeeper

    Dear Andrea,

    You have a multitude of followers that visualize your contribution to society as an epoch of industrial and social revolution. Because of this many have offered helpful ideas, suggestions and innovative contributions within this JoNP. Have any of these instilled an epiphany to you for E-Cat and its peripheral application? If so, could you provide any insight as to what those may have been and any significant role to its evolution? If not now, could you provide those insights after the public industrial demonstration? Thank you.

    Best regards,

    BroKeeper

  594. Andrea Rossi

    BroKeeper:
    I can say that this blog is very useful for an exchange of information. I learn very much from the comments made here, in general, but it is very difficult to find a specific link to the epiphany of the E-Cat, also because, as you know, I never exchange information about the operation of the reactor. Information exchanged here is very useful in general, though.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  595. Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi you can also Google:
    The men who built America
    And watch the videos
    Robert Curto

  596. Andrea Rossi

    Robert Curto:
    As I said many times, I am sure all the energy sources will be integrated for the good of all.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  597. Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi I live in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, on Channel 116 H2 they have a program called:
    The men who built America, with serval parts, all good.
    The one that I think is very good is:
    Changing the Game. J.P. Morgan.
    When he wanted to bring electricity to America, John D. Rockefeller tried to stop him, because he was selling kerosene to provide light.
    He knew the electric bulb would put him out of business.

    I was wondering if the people who provide Coal, Nuclear Power, Natural Gas, Solar, Wind, etc. are worried that the ECat will provide electricity with less expense and zero emissions ?
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA

  598. Andrea Rossi

    Robert Curto:
    Thank you for the information,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  599. Layman

    Hi Andrea
    You can just sell the thermal energy only and not the unit and keep the IP secured . Seeing the unit in operation making money for your customers in long term, no Tip report can equate that.

  600. Andrea Rossi

    Layman:
    Your comment makes sense, but there are many other formulas that can protect the IP against reverse engineering. The contracts we make with our Customers protect us adequately, combined with the due diligence we make upon our Customers, their real need of the energy produced by our plants and upon the history of their activity.
    Thank you for your attention,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  601. Hermano Tobia: I totally understand Andrea Rossi position with eCat IP as he nailed it down once again in his answer. In the case of Google, Linux open source operating system code in Android is good choice for Google business strategy. But keep in mind, that Googles most valuable IP is in their superior Internet search algorithms and technology, which are strictly secret, closed source and proprietary software.

    kind regards

    Ville Kanninen

  602. Andrea Rossi

    Ville Kanninen:
    Thank you, very good point.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  603. eernie1

    Jacques,
    You have stated that electron capture from K L M orbitals occurs in neutron stars. In a number of blogs concerning LENR, I have proposed an ansazt that includes the capture of these orbital electrons or electron fields in NiH systems. Fermi showed that this event in some elements, produced the emission of B+ or B- particles and corresponding neutrinos. In lighter isotopes(more protons) the emission is B+, in heavier isotopes(more neutrons) the emission is B-. In the heavier elements such as Nickel, this process is enhanced because of the attractive influence of the larger nuclear coulomb field causing the inner electrons to possess smaller orbital radii. Not only do you achieve energy emission when captured, but also transmutation effects. The presence of external H- ions if brought close to the outer electrons impose another negative field which drive the inner electrons closer to the nucleus assisting in the electron capture by the nucleus and the interaction with the nucleons. May I have your thoughts on this.
    Respectively awaiting your reply.

  604. Hello Andrea. I am very curious about whether you have any opinions about the new pope. Some might say that Pope Francis is putting a refreshing amount of energy into his work.

  605. Andrea Rossi

    Thomas Florek:
    Is a Great Pope. In this historic period, with so many analogies with the periods before the first and the second WW, God has chosen the right man to help to maintain as much as possible a relative peace. It is paradoxical, but in this very period if the third WW has not yet been born it is thanks to the nuclear weapons.
    I think Pope Francis will play a cosmic- historical role to save the world from the war.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  606. Mark Saker

    Dear Andrea,

    Hopefully you can answer at least some of these questions :)

    1) Can you confirm whether the housing for the 1MW plant is the same as has been used for the previous 1MW test, or is a different container
    2) Do the internals look substantially different than the previous 1MW test
    3) What temperature will the 1MW plant be supplying
    4) Is the owner of the new 1MW plant Industrial Heat, or a separate entity with no ties to Industrial Heat?
    5) If the answer to 4 is no, can you specify whether it’s an instant coffee factory – a subtle insult at all the scientists asking for the ecat to boil a cup of tea? (‘fortyniner’ mentioned this on e-cat world, I think it would be great) :)
    6)Have you started up the 1MW plant yet and if so is it working?
    7)Have you started the installation for the 1MW plant at the customers premises yet?
    8) And final question, pleaaasssee answer this… will the plant be making just heat or heat and electricity?

    The first thing I do every day is check for news on the e-cat. Don’t keep us waiting too long please!! :)

  607. Andrea Rossi

    Mark Saker:
    I can answer only to this:
    a- the Customer is independent from us and has no participation to our business
    b- its employ is to make heat for industrial purposes.
    About all the other issues, we will give due specifications when the visits will be allowed.
    About the imbeciles, let them laugh, but, please, do not call them scientists: scientists are curious, intelligent and always wait for solid experimentation; besides, they never laugh of working people: only an imbecile can laugh of persons that are working with all the force they dispose of, and a scientist cannot be an imbecile.

  608. georgehants

    Dear Mr. Rossi, could you clear a little confusion.
    Is your new 1MW plant driven by the older E-cats or the newer Hot-cats.
    Best wishes

  609. Andrea Rossi

    Georgehants:
    We will give specifications when the visits will be allowed.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  610. Jeff Smathers

    I’d like to post a recent paper that may describe a directly contributing attribute in this field. It is interesting how associated fields in physics are merging results of disparate science activities into a possible explaination for the anomlies many are now utilizing in alternative energy platforms.

    http://arxiv.org/abs/1406.3941

    Thank you again Mr. Rossi for your diligence and honest efforts in applying the real scientific method, and not the current ego driven ‘religion of modern science’.

  611. Andrea Rossi

    Jeff Smathers:
    Thank you for the information.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  612. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    The paper is the eighth reference in the bibliography posted at the end of the article on the JONP found here:

    http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=53

    Earlier in the paper, posted on the JONP, it references the paper I have requested as a successive paper.

    These allowed us the determination of the ratio Cu63/Cu65=1,6 different from the value (2,24) relative to the copper isotopic natural composition. The Zn64 derives from the β‾ Cu64 decay: as it.s shown in Table 3, formation of Cu64 requires the existence of Ni63 which, absent in natural Ni composition, must have been in precedence produced starting by more light nickel isotopes. More details on this analysis will be given in a successive paper [8].

    I have double checked all papers posted during 2010 on the JONP, and I do not see the successive paper.

  613. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    The paper you are referring to has not been published because we were not sure of the results.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  614. Alessandro Coppi

    Hi Andrea, now you have certainly spoken with the professors that have written the report.
    While we all are waiting for the publishing, how are you? Much more happy or not?

    Best regards
    Alessandro

  615. Andrea Rossi

    Alessandro Coppi:
    It is true that now and again I make a phone call to the Professors to ask about the scheduling of the publication. It is absolutely not true that we talk of the report’s content. I have no reason to be happy or unhappy.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  616. KeithT

    Dear Andrea,

    1. Does the magazine have exclusive rights to review until publication.

    2. Are all the peer reviewers nominated by the magazine.

    Best regards,

    Keith Thomson.

  617. Andrea Rossi

    Keith T:
    1- I do not know, it does not depend on me
    2- I do not know: also this does not depend on me, but I suppose that first the paper is reviewed by the 6 Professors that made the experiment, who are reviewing each other, eventually also the magazine makes its own peer reviewing.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  618. H-G Branzell

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    The third party members have done their best to make a good report describing the results of the extended testing, I am sure. Why don’t you just publish the report here and now to let the whole world be your peer reviewers?
    Best regards, H-G Branzell

  619. Andrea Rossi

    H-G Branzell:
    I can do that if:
    1- the magazine will reject the paper
    2- the Professors will allow me to do that and will deliver me the report. Our protocol so far says that they will deliver to me the report several days before the publication. I am very positive about the fact that the paper will be published, because, whatever the results, positive or negative, the measurements have been made, as you correctly say, describing rigorously the extended test. I agree on the fact that, after the publication, the world will be the super-peer reviewer.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  620. Bernie Koppenhofer

    Dr. Rossi: Could you please provide us with just a little more information about the E-Cat you are installing for the customer? 1) Will it be supplementing the necessary heat or power or will it be providing all the heat or power needed in the customers situation. 2) How obvious will it be that the E-Cat is saving the customer money, will the customer see immediate savings?

  621. Andrea Rossi

    Bernie Koppenhofer:
    1- it will provide all the energy for the production it is employed for
    2- yes ( I hope)
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  622. Bob

    Dear Andrea Rossi

    1. Can you tell us if the new 1MW plant will be located in the U.S. or in Europe?

    2. Does the customer intend to use the plant for an industrial application (like making a product)or an environmental application (like heating a building)?

    3. Are the dimensions of the new plant smaller larger or the same size as the other 1MW plants you had previously completed?

    Thanks,

    Bob

    P.S. Thank you and the other commenters to this blog for the many clearly written explanations about particle physics concepts.

  623. Andrea Rossi

    Bob:
    1- USA
    2- industrial application
    3- same size
    Thanks to you for your kind attention.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  624. Hank Mills

    Dear Andrea,

    While we are waiting on the TIP, I was wondering if perhaps you could publish the paper referenced as, “ S. Focardi, A. Rossi, to be published on Arxiv.” that Sergio Focardi stated was rejected. After all this time, it would be great to actually be able to read it. Also, it would give all of us something to read and think about while we wait for the TIP.

    Thank you.

  625. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    That paper has been published on the Journal Of Nuclear Physics in 2010.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  626. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Will your plans for the 1MW plant visitations by invited persons be affected by the third party report? In other words, will you wait for the publication of the report before the visits are allowed? Or are the two issues totally unconnected?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  627. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    1- yes: they accepted to make a third independent party test at the foundamental conditions that they will publish the results, positive or negative as they might be.
    2- yes: they can publish where they want to.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  628. Giuliano Bettini

    Hi Andrea,
    sincere thanks for answering.
    6 months … from WHEN?
    Very respectful greetings,
    Giuliano Bettini.

  629. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    You ask me to give answers I am not able to give. I just said that you must understand that as an average an important scientific publication ( and this will be important, either negative or positive as the results may be) can demand an average of 6 months for the publication. The reviewers want not to risk to make mistakes. An average means that a reviewing can last between 2 and 12 months starting from when the report has been delivered. In this moment I have not the information that would allow me to give specific answers. The experiment has been completed in April, then a report has been written on the base of the analysis of millions of data, confronting calculations of 6 Professors who reviewed each other before delivering the report. After that there is the peer reviewing of the magazine. It is a long, difficult process. You are intelligent and I am sure you can understand. The report made in 2013 by the same Commettee has put the bases and yelded precious experience for this long run test, making all the measurements that in 2013 have not been made and that have been suggested by many scientists who read the 2013 report. A Professor of the Commettee explained to me recently, when I made a phone call to ask the scheduling of the publication, that they ( the Professors) need all the time necessary to make a work that gives results beyond any possible doubt, because the results, positive or negative, will have important effects.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  630. Layman

    Thank you Sir!
    You make difficult concept, simple to understand

  631. Andrea Rossi

    Layman:
    Thank you for your kind attention.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  632. Layman

    Hi Andrea
    Please explain what is a rest mass? And mass of moving particles? Are they different?
    Thank you

  633. Andrea Rossi

    Layman:
    Rest mass: its value is
    m= E/c^2 time the square root of ( 1- v^2/c^2)
    It is one of the 4 foundamental magnitudes of the elementary particles and is the minimum amount of energy that an object can have: when a particle is perfectly still its amount of energy is equal to its mass time c^2, where, obviously, c is the speed of the light: in fact when the elementary particle is perfectly still in the above described formula v^2/c^2=0/c^2, the square root of 1 is 1, therefore m= E/c^2, from which E= m x c^2.
    Following this formula, you can see also that if the particle goes at the speed of light, mass becomes zero ( if v=c we will have the square root of 1-1=0, therefore the mass becomes E/c^2 x 0 = 0): in fact, the elementary particles that travel at the speed of light are massless. Obviously, this does not mean that a fermion accelerates to reach the speed of light, we all know it is impossible, but a Fermion can interact with another particle and generate a gauge boson ( for example, a neutron decays into a proton plus a photon and a neutrino). If you substitute to the variable v the speed of the particle, you get the value of the mass ( which is an integral, not a number). Due to the value of c ( 186 000 miles/second) don’t even think you can reduce your mass driving your car as fast as possible.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  634. H-B Branzell

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    In a closed system mass but not matter is always conserved.
    Kind regards, Albert

  635. Andrea Rossi

    H-B Branzell:
    In a closed system mass but not matter is conserved, as you say, provided the elementary particles are still. In a collision, energy is conserved, not mass.
    Thank you for your good point, though.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  636. Curiosone

    Dr Andrea Rossi,
    I want to take profit from your skill to teach Physics in a way everybody can understand: in your comment about the 4 foundamental magnitudes you wrote that energy is conserved, not mass. But, since mass is energy, why didn’t you write that also mass is conserved ?
    Thank you,
    W.G.

  637. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    To make it short, let’s start from Logic: “all cats are animals, but not all animals are cats”. Analogously, E = mc^2 implies that any form of mass is convertible into Energy ( in fact mass is usually measured in eV) , but , on the contrary, not any form of energy can be convertible in mass: in fact, all the Bosons that do not interact in the Higgs field are not turned into Fermions. For this reason it is correct to say that energy is conserved, in any form ( even in mass), but not mass.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  638. Andrea Rossi

    TO THE READERS OF THE JOURNAL OF NUCLEAR PHYSICS:
    Today has been published on the JoNP the paper
    “Relation between short- range forces and the concept of neutrality” , by Jacques Chaveheid ( time of peer reviewing: 6 months).
    JoNP

  639. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear Andrea,
    the impatience is not anxiety or curiosity, but it’s something related to the huge importance of the issue: why does take so much time to make the publication of the report of the 2014 experiment?
    Best regards,
    Giuliano Bettini.

  640. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    I edited your text for obvious reasons, conserving the meaning of it. You must know that the peer reviewing of a scientific publication usually takes 6 months as an average.
    The experiment made by the Third Independent Party is important, as you correctly wrote, and the Professors, to avoid criticisms, need all the time necessary to publish results of which they need to be sure beyond any reasonable doubt, also considering all the experience and the critics made during and after the 2013 experiment. It is not just matter of patience, it is also matter of respect for serious scientific work. The reviewing must take all the time it needs on the base of a serious and exhaustive analysis of the results, positive or negative as they might be.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  641. Angel Blume

    Dear Andrea Rossi

    What COP figure is expected at the new 1 Mw plant in construction?
    Thanks and good luck

  642. Andrea Rossi

    Angel Blume:
    We will give detailed public information about the 1 MW plant in operation in the factory of the Customer when the visits will start. At the moment we cannot give any specific information. It is matter of months, not years, though.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  643. Hermano Tobia

    @Andrea Rossi
    While I agree in priciple with your IP position, I don’t think the Linux / MS / Apple / Opensource comparison is appropriate nowadays: in the exploding smartphone mobile market, Android, which is basically free, and built upon Linux + AOSP (opensource) + Google apps has globally 80% market share, Apple has 16% and Microsoft 3-4%.
    But Google is not run by communists, it has simply a different business model in respect of its competitors.

  644. Andrea Rossi

    Hermano Tobia:
    You are right, but, as I said, after a technology is spread in the market it is normal its expansion with open sources. Our situation is totally different now, while it will be similar to what you describe several years after the mother-technology will have been consolidated in the market. Good point, though.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  645. Bernie Koppenhofer

    Dr. Rossi: Thanks again for you answer about IP, you must have answered that question ten times in the last four years. (: Of course you are right, IP is what makes the Tech world go around, without profit motive, very few new high tech inventions. Even China has learned that lesson. You are headed for exciting times in the next few months. Good luck.

  646. DTravchenko

    Another question: what do you think of the results so far got from your competitors? Can you make a sort of a rating?
    Warm Regards
    D.T.

  647. Andrea Rossi

    Dtravchenko:
    Some of them are making a very good work, mainly the ones that have worked to repeat our technology after it has been published in 2009 by the Patent Office, some are not, but I never comment specifically the work of our Competitors. A team of specialists funded by us is studying all the Technologies published and/or patented by our Competitors, replicating exactly what they describe, to check the real worth of their IP. So far we obtained the same results described in their publications only in three cases, regarding a Swedish, a Japanese and a USA LENR scientists. All the others have not given any anomalous amount of energy, honestly, even if we have spent substantial time and money to check the real status of their potential competitivity. I must add that many of the Technologies that did not produce any anomalous excess of energy can be considered all the same interesting and good, so that maybe in future will be improved.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  648. DTravchenko

    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    Strong suggestion from a Russian friend: you too make open science of your technology, as Others LENR researchers did: this choice from you can help the development of your technology.
    From Russia, with love and “Warm Regards!”
    D.T.

  649. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    I answered many times about this issue, this is the last one, because I cannot continue to repeat the same things…
    As many Readers invited me to do, I should give away as a gift the Intellectual Property portfolio to make everybody happy and energized, as well as many other LENR researchers declare would do should they be in my same situation.
    Let me tell you a story.
    Before the fall of the USSR, in the seventies, when the Italian Communist Party ( PCI) was one of the pillars for the communist parties in Europe, an Italian Comrade ( “compagno” in Italian language) had to sustain an exam to become the chief comrade of the communist section of his neighborood. His examiner asked him: ” Should you be the owner of two skyscrapers in the centertown of Milan, what would you do?” Promptly the wannabe chief comrade answered: ” one to me, one to the PCI”.
    The examiner raises a bit his eyebrows and says ” I was hoping you could answer both skyscrapers to the Party, but enough is better than nothing, so I take for good, even if not perfect, your answer…second question: should you be the owner of 2 Ferrari cars, what would you do?”
    Again promptly the wannabe chief comrade, looking straightforward in the eyes of the examiner, answers: ” one for me, one for the Party “.
    Coherently, the examiner says ” I would have preferred you could answer both to the Party, but nobody is perfect, so I accept for good also your second answer…now third and last question: should you own two bycycles, what would you do? ”
    At this point the wannabe chief comrade doesn’t answer, drops of sweat begin to wet his forehead, becomes first red faced, than white…until the examiner says: ” What’s the matter with you? You were ready to give to the party one skyscraper in downtown Milan, then a Ferrari and now you remain mute and scared to give to the Party a bycycle? ”
    The wannabe comrade turns the eyes toward nowhere, cocks the head between his shoulders and whispers: ” As a matter of fact, I really own two bycicles “.
    The sense of this story is, as everybody surely has understood, that the generosity to give away for free the Intellectual Property portfolio is inversally proportional to the square of the worth of its content.
    To give away for free the Intellectual Property of a technology is a mistake that takes away from the real business that technology, because nobody invests seriously in a technology if there is not the right of the ownership of the connected IP. The history gives a lot of even recent examples: compare what happened with Linux vs Microsoft, compare what happened with the open source high technologies vs Apple…Obviously, eventually the technology becomes universally known, once it is spread in the market, but in the meantime the companies that have put immense capitals to fund its development will have paid back their efforts with profit. Finally: look what happened in the communist Countries, where private property has been universally turned into common property and knowledge, frustrating ( and forbidding) private interest.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  650. orsobubu

    Andrea, will you find the time to write an autobiography? I can already see the hardcover, with a photo of yourself in running shoes standing next to a small shining Ecat placed on the ground. In the background, a big rusted Petroldragon tank with the cat logo and the book title painted on in capital yellow letters: The Caterpillar. As a bonus, a DVD is included with the complete JONP database and the catalyzer formula. Also a voucher is inserted for the new Wladimir’s book.

  651. Andrea Rossi

    Orsobubu:
    He,he,he…when I will be retired ( after my hundredth ride around the sun) I will consider your suggestion…obviously the title you could like is, I suppose, ” The permanent revolution of energy production systems”: true?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  652. Wladimir Guglinski

    To the readers of the JoNP:

    Einstein proposed in his Special Relativity that space is empty.

    That’s why he proposed in his General Relativity that the space-time can be bent by big masses, and it originates the gravity.

    However a new experiment published in 2011 proved that space is not empty:
    Light created from vacuum shows empty space a myth
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/Light-created-from-vacuum-shows-empty-space-a-myth/articleshow/10789049.cms

    So, it is obvious that Einstein theory of gravity is wrong.

    And now some theorists are dealing with the question of the gravity as it was be a fluid.
    Turbulent Black Holes
    http://arxiv.org/abs/1402.4859

    In another words, Huan Yang, Aaron Zimmerman, and Luis Lehner are dealing with the gravity from a new fundamental consideration: that space is not empty, as Einstein had wrongly supposed.

    As we realize, step by step the theorists are changing everything in the foundations of the Theoretical Physics.

    But obviously the problem is more complex, because there is need also to consider other fundamental question: how to conciliate the gravity with the Higgs boson, if they continue to consider that the mass of particles is caused by the Higgs boson.

    They have hard questions to solve, indeed…

    regards
    wlad

  653. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    For anyone interested, here’s a link to your 1978 patent, “Procedure for the recovery of industrial and urban waste”. Thanks to Mats Lewan for providing this.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/231423045/BREVETTO-PETROLIO-1978

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  654. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    The two issues are unconnected.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  655. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    This might be of interest to you — I posted on E-Cat World about the waste-to-biofuel plant that is opening in Edmonton, Canada. http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/06/25/edmonton-to-launch-waste-to-biofuel-plant-based-on-old-rossi-technology/

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  656. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    When I applied for that patent I was 27 years old, with a 6 years experience in production of waste to energy plants and air pollution control systems. I designed, patented and manufactured my plants, and used to go personally to sell them. At those times my competitors called me “the Caterpillar” for the amount of work I was able to do…wherever there was a plant to do, I was there ( he,he,he…it was not easy to beat me in a competition to get a Customer). Then I put in the tech of this patent all the money earned, and lost everything in 1995 ( see http://www.ingandrearossi.com).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  657. Wladimir Guglinski

    Curiosone wrote in June 25th, 2014 at 6:38 PM

    Dr Andrea Rossi,
    one question of physics: when an accelerator like CERN finds antimatter is because antimatter is inside the matter and crushing it the antimatter is made free?
    W.G.

    ————————————-

    Dear Curiosone
    I supppose you are asking it because of the paper published in 22 June 2014 in the journal Nature:
    Evidence for the direct decay of the 125 GeV Higgs boson to fermions
    http://www.nature.com/nphys/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nphys3005.html

    However, the role played by the Higgs boson for the mass of the particles is the same role played by the Yukawa’s meson within the structure of the neutron.

    Yukawa proposed a theory according to which the neutron is formed by proton+meson, and he awarded the Nobel Prize in 1949 because the meson was detected (the existence of the meson was unknown before Yukawa’s proposal).

    Today we know that the meson plays no any role in the structure of the neutron, because according to Standard Physics the neutron is formed by two quarks down and one quark up , n=(d,u,d).

    So, in spite of the LHC had detected the Higgs boson, it does not mean that the detected boson is responsible for the mass of the particles, as proposed in Higgs theory.
    In 2015 the LHC will work with its full potency, and probably many other bosons will be found.

    The Yukawa’s meson and the Higgs boson are two examples on how the development of Physics advances via misunderstandings and “coincidences” which induce the theorists to believe that they are in the correct way.

    regards
    wlad

  658. Mark Saker

    Dear Andrea,

    An enjoyable (well enlightening) read for you on the origin of creativity I have just read and recommend. It’s approximately fifteen minutes worth of words! :)

    http://goo.gl/eUdmRF

  659. Andrea Rossi

    Mark Saker:
    Thank you!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  660. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    How are the current eCat reactors configured in the 1 MW commercial unit that you are working on?

    1. Are you using the same eCat reactor the independent party report reviewed or a later model?
    2. What is the nominal thermal output of each eCat reactor used in the 1 MW system?
    3. How many eCat reactors are used in the 1MW system.
    4. Is the power input electrical (e.g., 220VAC)?
    5. Can individual eCat reactors be replaced while the 1MW system is continually operating?
    6. How far can the 1MW control unit be from the 1MW unit?

  661. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    All the particulars regarding the 1 MW plant, as I said already, will be given when the visits will begin, not before.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  662. Curiosone

    Dr Andrea Rossi,
    one question of physics: when an accelerator like CERN finds antimatter is because antimatter is inside the matter and crushing it the antimatter is made free?
    W.G.

  663. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    When an accelerator generates antimatter it is not because antimatter is someway contained in the matter ( they would annichilate). What happens is that the collisions between elementary particles generate new particles: the waves representing the original particles make new vibrations in the antimatter field and we detect them as antiparticles. In quantum field theory, elementary particles are just tiny vibrating waves in a particular field: they arise out of the field and interact in fields.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  664. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Obviously when the 1MW plant is revealed to the public there will be much interest many questions about it in terms of efficiency, performance, construction, etc.

    1. Is your intention to release the maximum amount of information possible about this plant so that interested parties can make informed decisions about future investment in E-Cat technology?

    2. In addition to showing the plant to invited guests, will you be releasing documentation, images, film, etc. to the general public?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  665. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Yes, I knew about it, and I am proud of it and wish good luck to this enterprise. They use the technology basics that I patented in 1978 ( patent expired) and I am very happy to see that my work has left a legacy.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  666. silvio caggia

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    a difficult question, but you should be able to answer, as a philosopher:
    Forget to be Andrea Rossi, and forget to work for I.H., if you were a common but clever guy, that could get info only from internet, would you believe that e-cat works?

  667. Andrea Rossi

    Silvio Caggia:
    Obviously yes, but the objectivity coming from a subject is born from his subjective knowledge, which, as any knowledge, can be wrong, or, better, must be wrong in some situation to be real ( this is phylosophy). Anyway this is not a matter of “to believe or not to believe” , it is a matter of technology, which means to work or not to work ( this is science ). In mercatu veritas ( this is good sense).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  668. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Thank you for the update regarding the 1 MW plant, and best wishes with this installation. I hope that your team is recording this activity for future publication — the successful completion of this project will be major technological and historical milestone.

    Best regards,

    Frank Acland

  669. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    1- Our commercial division will release all the information useful for the purpose in the forms deemed opportune
    2- The invited media will be able to do it
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  670. Paul

    Andrea,

    How long did it take to manufacture all the e-cat reactors for new 1MW plant?

    Paul

  671. Andrea Rossi

    Paul:
    It is difficult to say, due to prototyping for technological evolution in course.
    We will be able to define the specific times of manufacturing along an assembling chain after this R&D phase.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  672. Koen Vandewalle

    Andrea,
    You write that you’re very busy with the 1MW plant.
    How about the jet-engine ? Is that on hold ?
    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  673. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    Our R&D department is working on more that one issue. I personally in this period am focused on the 1 MW plant. You must put a distinction between us and me.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  674. Piero Mongioj

    Grazie per la accurata risposta… Solo un’ultima precisazione, se puó… L’impianto in elaborazione è un Hot-cat o un impianto E-cat del tipo già mostrato a Bologna? Grazie di nuovo e… tanta fortuna (serve anche quella, no?). Cari saluti, Piero Mongioj

  675. Andrea Rossi

    Piero Mongioj:
    We will give in due time the description of it. Substantial evolution happened, though.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  676. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    I’m sorry — what I meant to ask was: what would you consider to be a negative result in each case?

    In other words, what kind of results from the TPR would you consider to be negative?

    Also, in your R&D work?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  677. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    We are recording everything. Thank you for your constant attention,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  678. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    Now that the tests for the report have been concluded, are the devices(all three)provided by you, to be returned or will you give them to the professors for their further study under NDA? I still hope you can give us a heads up for the report when you receive it.
    Thank you for all your past and future responses.

  679. Piero Mongioj

    Anche se la curiosità per il report è tanta, vorrei invece chiederle se gli e-cat direttamente sotto il suo controllo (per ricerca o monitoraggio) si stanno comportando secondo le sue aspettative e con i rendimenti da lei attesi. Un caro saluto, Piergiorgio Mongioj

    Are the E-Cats you are making your R&D with in this period behaving along your expectances, while we are waiting the results of the third independent party?

  680. Andrea Rossi

    Piero Mongioj:
    At the moment I am working focused exclusively on the 1 MW plant we are installing in the factory of the Customer . The work is advancing along our scheduling, some problems emerged, but I cannot give any specific information; in due time, I think within 2014, visits to this plant in operation will be allowed, unless problems will emerge. This time we are not preparing a test or a demo, the 1 MW plant is going to work along a production line in a factory to lower the production costs of the Customers. The target is: ” to increase the profits of the Customer by means of the E-Cat”, indipendently from any other consideration. It is a matter of money, not of science and our Customer is a Corporation, not a scientific institute, so now we are working in a different context that is at the first step toward an industrialization of the product. The expectations of the Customer can be either met or not, which means that the results, under the economical point of view, can respect the guarantees or not: we have to see it in the reality, because, as we well know, ” IN MERCATU VERITAS”.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  681. Mark

    Here hoping the E-cat the get billions out of poverty

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiA2XCf9l2o

  682. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini and Gentle Readers:
    Please disregard any rumor, whisper, noise, voice, whistle, chant, music or whatsoever acoustic waves vibration regarding the date of publishing of the report, because nobody knows anything of it. Until I do not know anything about it, you can be sure nobody knows anything about it. All the acoustic waves vibrations about it are groundless virtualities, whatever the frequency.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  683. Giuliano Bettini

    Hi Andrea.
    I’m beginning to think that all these rumors about the date of publication are balls.
    I’m tempted to publish this message (obviously false….):
    “I received reliable information, the release date is expected to be the first week of July, on arXiv”. =D
    Best regards,
    Giuliano Bettini.

  684. Mark

    Andrea,

    Do you anticipate that the report on the Hotcat will be released first then followed the ash isotopic analysis report or both will be combined in one single report?

  685. Andrea Rossi

    Mark:
    I have absolutely not idea what the report will say.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  686. alutam

    Andrea,
    The powdered metal industry process is basically two parts. First one company will make the metal powders that are annealed in large ovens (Gas fired)in controlled atmosphere. Then the powders are sold to other companies that press the metal powder into dies to form parts (gears, bushings, terminal lugs, strut nuts, etc.) and those green parts are sent through a sintering oven (gas fired or electric in controlled atmosphere) to harden and solidify the parts. Many BTU’s are required for both processes. They would be a good target for your technology in my view. Sintering iron parts requires temperatures of >1100 C but sintering copper alloys requires <1000 C.
    Best regards.

  687. Andrea Rossi

    Alutam:
    Thank you
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  688. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    From your perspective, what would constitute a negative result from:

    a) The independent third party testing?
    b) Your own R&D and prototyping?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  689. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Let us wait for the report. We will see and analyse it . If the Professors will mark negative conclusions, we will see what they are referred to, as well as we will do in case of positive conclusions. In the meantime there is nothing specific I can say.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  690. alutam

    Andrea,
    Have you done any testing of E-Cats for use in the field of powder metallurgy (sintering)?
    There is a lot of those businesses where I live and they could use a boost in efficiency.
    Best regards.

  691. Andrea Rossi

    alutam:
    Interesting: can you explain more specifically ?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  692. Bernie Koppenhofer

    Dr Rossi: Wouldn’t the roll out of the E-Cat be faster and more effective if IH would have many more partners in all areas of product introduction? Thank you again for your time.

  693. Andrea Rossi

    Bernie Koppenhofer:
    I am not involved in commercial issues, being in a position of Chief Scientist with IH.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  694. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Thank you for the useful clarification regarding the 1 MW Plant. The fact that it will be a working E-Cat providing useful energy for someone is important.

    I hope when the time comes, the customer will be able to provide data regarding energy usage, costs, savings, etc. This is very important to people considering adopting a new source of energy.

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  695. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Both
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  696. Andreas Moraitis

    Dear Dave Lafluer,

    Better thank the author of the paper, my contribution to the field is equal to zero.

    Best regards,
    Andreas Moraitis

  697. orsobubu

    Dear Eernie 1, Koen Vandewalle, Steven N. Karels

    instead of litigate amongst ourselves, it’s important to me that when the moment will arrive, Andrea Rossi announces the release of the report, which has been released and presented to him, which is physically in his hands, which is presently carefully studied and analyzed in detail with his staff and taking notes of the complicated formulas and pictures, that he sent some guys to buy a lot of sandwiches and chips and soda for the difficult task, conscious of the fact that the results of this huge investment can be positive but also could be negative at this stage

  698. Dave Lafluer

    I would like to thank Andreas Moritis for his submission to this forum:

    “Perhaps the following paper from Kharkov Institute (Ukraine) could be of interest:

    http://arxiv.org/abs/1406.3941

    unquote
    I found to be a eye opener of my ignorance of physics, yet fascinating. The only part I really understand is the statement:

    “Numerous experimental data on low energy nuclear reactions assisted by the crystalline environment [1-3] leave little doubts about the reality of LENR, but a comprehensive theory of this phenomenon remains a subject of debates”

  699. Hello Andrea. I heard a rumor that you will strongly favor a jazz band called “The Ones of the Fused Cat”. While that band is hard to find, I did find this lesser imitation from a couple of small-time radio personalities.

    https://vimeo.com/98669735

  700. Andrea Rossi

    Thomas Florek:
    He,he,he…nice!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  701. eernie1

    Dear Koen,
    1. Those who will not sleep are not sleeping now in anticipation of the report.
    2. I cant think of a better advertisement for LENR and the Rossi effect than having both those sites saturated by inquirers.
    3. The critics are already firing their best shots without reading the report. They must read the report to try to add to their criticisms.
    Personally, I would rather be informed of developments than kept in the dark.

  702. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie 1:
    1- to sleep well I suggest to all who are not sleeping to read the biased critics against LENR ( all of them)
    2- we are not advertising anything, we are making R&D in this phase of our work
    3- the ones that critic the report before reading it are just displacing air with their tongues: not an effective way to make hurricanes. Just ignore them.
    Nobody is kept in the dark, everybody is waiting patiently for the results of a huge, long, difficult work whose output will be important. The Professors are, obviously, aware of the importance of this work and are keeping all the necessary time to make the best possible work. I am conscious of the fact that the results can be positive but also could be negative.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  703. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I agree with Koen. Allow the professors to actually release their document in peace without any pre-announcement. I too daily check JoNP to see if the report has been released. What is to be gained by announcing that you have received the “final copy” before publication?

  704. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    I think what you say is wise.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  705. Bernie Koppenhofer

    Dr Rossi: The Middle East is blowing up again, which means oil prices will explode. This is going to hit the already hard hit world economy, especialy the marginal economies. With this in mind, does IH have plans to accelerate the introduction and distribution of the E-Cat?

  706. Andrea Rossi

    Bernie Koppenhofer:
    We are working very hard for the development of our production, and we are doing this at the maximum of our strength, indipendently from external factors. But remind that I have honestly to say, at this stage, that the results of our present efforts could be positive, as we hope and have made huge investments for, or negative.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  707. Koen Vandewalle

    Eernie1, Andrea,
    NOT a good idea !
    1: nobody will sleep for 3 days.
    2: JoNP and Arxiv (I assume) will go down because of everybody continuously refreshing the pages.
    3: All countermeasures will be launched by competition.
    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  708. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    You made some point.
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  709. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    Previously you have stated that the authors of the 3PR would give you a copy of the report three days before submission. Can you inform us that you have received the report when they submit it to you? I know that you cannot comment on the contents but knowing that you have received the report will relieve some of the anxiety for your readers.
    As always, best of luck!

  710. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie 1:
    Ok
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  711. Andrea Rossi

    Kevin O’ Malley:
    The enthusiasm put in evidence in the hard times will be surely one of the elements, but many other issues have to be analysed. Good luck for your ICM solutions anyway.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  712. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    You stated the eCat has a shelf life of 6 months (or that 6 monts would be prudent).

    6 months seems very short to me. Is this because:

    a. You are being conservative?
    b. The hydrogen charge has a limited lifetime (either gas or metal hydride)?
    c. The Nickel surface preparation has a limited time?
    d. The Catalyst has a limited lifetime?
    e. The electronics and/or control mechanism have limited lifetimes?
    f. This has not been tested so you really don’t know the shelf life?

  713. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    a. yes
    b. confidential
    c. confidential
    d. confidential
    e. confidential
    f. right: I know only what I tested, and so far we tested a shelf time up to 6 months.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  714. Hello Dr Rossi:

    In a few weeks, you will be inundated by commercial requests for ordinary engineers to try to sell into your market.

    Will you be giving those of us who have supported LENR for many years any kind of advantage?

    In particular, right now I am marketing Industrial Custom Memory solutions, in DDR and in Flash. I would hope that you’d consider us in your designs.

    best regards

    Kevin O’Malley
    Field Application Engineer
    Innodisk Corporation http://www.innodisk.com
    humans will know this phone number: 408 four six -oh- 57 -0h- 7

  715. alutam

    Andrea,
    I’m not sure if this has been asked before. Does an E-Cat have a shelf life?
    After it is made must it be put to use soon or can it be stored in a warehouse for months or years until it is needed and still perform its function?
    Best Regards.

  716. Andrea Rossi

    Alutam:
    This is a very interesting question, and, as I can remember, it has not been forwarded before.
    I think that 6 month is a prudential shelf life term, because we already happened to store for 6 months a charged E-Cat before putting it in operation.
    Thank you, good point.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  717. Andreas Moraitis

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Perhaps the following paper from Kharkov Institute (Ukraine) could be of interest:

    http://arxiv.org/abs/1406.3941

    Best regards,
    Andreas Moraitis

  718. Andrea Rossi

    Andreas Moraitis:
    The physics of the so called discrete breathers are very interesting. Good paper, thank you for citing it to our Readers.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  719. Marc F

    Dear Andrea:
    Just came across this article today.
    Think about the millions of lives that could be saved by incorporating the E-Cat into this device:
    http://www.popsci.com/article/science/pure-genius-how-dean-kamens-invention-could-bring-clean-water-millions

    Marc

  720. Dear Mr Rossi,
    Have you had any changes to the method of purchasing Ecat’s? Will it be through the licenced dealers or by other methods? I have had many inquiries about purchasing Ecats from my clients and I do not know why they think I can get one, maybe because I have been talking about you and the Ecat for so long.
    Thank you for all your blood sweat and tears.

  721. Andrea Rossi

    Manuel Cilia:
    Just contact
    info@leonardocorp1996.com
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  722. Dear Andrea Rossi,

    If we suppose that both your commercial plants and the scientific test results will be success – as we all hope here – then many things will follow. This will then certainly happen: governments in USA, EU, China, Japan, South-Korea etc. will start to pour billions and billions of dollars to LENR research.

    Do you think that the coming research around the world following your invention will reveal several different new practically useful LENR processes?

    Or do you think that what you found is more probably the only practically useful LENR process just maybe having several useful variations?

    Kind regards

    Ville Kanninen

  723. Andrea Rossi

    Ville Kanninen:
    It is impossible to answer to your question, or, at least, I am not able to. I do not know what the competition will do. One thing I am sure of is that from competition will rise more convenience for the market. Remember: ” In mercatu veritas “. I know that giants are already working to compete with us: Shell, Mitsubishi, MIT, Volvo, ABB, NASA…and I am strongly honoured to have inspired, in some way, their work; to be clear: should I have not broken the ice in three years of public work, since January 2011, none of these Entities would have taken seriously LENR in the measure they are taking them now. Is it not true? At the cost of tremendous fights that also involved personal issues that have nothing to do with my work, but still have consumed time and energies. Anything has been tried to kill our work, without substantial effects, though ( thanks to God). Our Team is stronger than ever.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  724. Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I know that you have commented on the Ecat patent situation in the past.

    1. How do you currently feel about being unable to obtain a patent for the Ecat?

    2. If a patent was granted do you feel it would speed up the process of licensing the Ecat technology to 3rd parties?

    3. Would it quicken the spread of the Ecat around the world?

    4. If the answer to 2 & 3 is yes. After the report is released would it be helpful if someone were to work to raise the awareness of the public and government that this situation exists?

  725. Andrea Rossi

    Mike Phalen:
    1- Wrong and I cannot disclose our patents strategy, that is dealt with by a team of attorneys expert of the matter
    2- Intellectual property is a complex issue, not as simple as you represent. Licensing is a complicate issue as well and I cannot give more information about our licensing strategy either at the moment
    3- These are issues whose development is integrated in a complex and wider decisional system
    4- Indipendently from the points 2 & 3, that would be anyway useful, provided it is also integrated in our decisional system
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  726. H-B Branzell

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    The Party from which we are expecting a new report is not the Third in a sequence of Independent Parties.

    It is the second Independent Third Party.

    Kind regards, H-G Branzell

  727. Andrea Rossi

    H-B Branzell:
    Correct, or, to use Giuliano Bettini’s mode, it’s TPR2 ( I understood, anyway, what’s behind your message and I thank you).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  728. DTravchenko

    Thank you for your answer . Please remind that in our Country your E-Cat and your person are strongly appreciated.
    From Russia with love,
    D.T.

  729. Curiosone

    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    Thank you for your lecture about the 4 foundamental forces and the 4 foundamental magnitudes: as always you have been able to explain Physics to not skilled persons.
    Thank you to dedicate your time to us,
    W.G.

  730. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear Andrea Rossi.
    About the PCE 830 in the TPR1.
    Regarding the measurement of P input, there is a eternal and annoying debate.
    Because the involved engineers and technicians are very reputable from both sides of the debate, can you please intercede with the Profs, so that they clarify?
    Thanks,
    Giuliano Bettini.

  731. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    After the 2013 test, the Third Independent Party has made all the measurements of the 2014 test considering all the experience from the work made in 2013.
    We have to wait patiently the results, positive or negative as they might be. I cannot intercede for anything.
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  732. Curiosone

    Dear Readers of the JoNP:
    A theoretical question, from a non physicist: are the 4 foundamental forces the same things as the 4 foundamental magnitudes ? Can anybody explain in simple Language, without mathematics, so that a layman as I am can understand ( like Andrea Rossi made explaining what is a photon )?
    W.G.

  733. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    I try to answer to your quest as simply as possible.
    The 4 foundamental forces are a totally different thing from the 4 foundamental magnitudes.
    The 4 foundamental forces are:
    Strong: strong force is mediated by gluons, which hold together quarks to make protons and neutrons; gluons and quarks are confined inside protons and neutrons by “colours”.
    Electromagnetic: electromagnetic force is mediated by photons, as we have seen in a former comment of mine
    Weak: weak forces are mediated by the gauge bosons W+, W- and Z, which are responsible for the decay of neutron into protons ( easier, since the mass of n is more than the mass of p, so energy is conserved by the emission of anti-neutrinos) and the decay of protons in neutrons ( more difficult, for the same reason: it is possible only in a more complex system of interactions between more particles and the formation of virtual particles that eventually decay into neutrons). W+, W- and Z are the sole elementary particles that change the nature of the particles they interact with.
    Gravitational: gravitational forces are mediated by gravitons: if the Moon orbits around the Earth, this happens because Earth and Moon exchange gravitons.

    The 4 foundamental magnitudes are:
    Rest Mass: m = E/c^2 x square root of (1- v^2/c^2)
    Electric Charge: -1, 0, +1 respectively for electrons, neutrons and neutrinos, protons; -1/3 for down quarks, +2/3 for up quarks
    Spin: spin is the intrinsic angular momentum and its quantum is h/ 4pi, where h is the Plank constant and pi = 3.14; spin is positive if counterclockwise, negative if clockwise
    Magnetic moment: it can be -1, 0 or +1 and its quantum is 9.29 x 10^-24 J/T
    The 4 foundamental magnitudes are conserved: after any interaction, the sum of them must be the same as before the interaction.
    Hope to have been useful,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  734. DTravchenko

    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    Canada, Québec- Edmonton: Enerkem has started up a plant that makes biofuel from organic wastes, with a technolgy derived from your patent of 1978. Are you proud of it? In the meantime, the General of the Guardia di Finanza of Italy ( Google ” Generale Emilio Spaziante arrestato”) who directed from 1989 the fight against you stopping your plants has been arrested for corruption: do you feel vindicated from these two events ?
    From Russia with love,
    D.T.

  735. Andrea Rossi

    D. Travchenko:
    1- About Enerkem: it definitely has utilized my patent of 1978 ( expired in 1998), and I am delighted to see that my work of 35 years ago is generating good results.
    2- About the other issue: please, everybody must understand that a man must be considered innocent, until an irrevocable verdict is issued; the presumption of innocence is a right of everybody. The Guardia di Finanza is a glorious military institution, with about 100 000 military heroes that every day fight honestly and for a modest wage, risking their life to defend Italian economy and the respect of the Law. Any other consideration is useless at this time.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  736. DTravchenko

    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    Do you think that your plants will be installed also in Russia? Do you understand that you have here very high level friends that are following with great attention your work, since 2011, when important scientists of our science Academy have been sent to attend your experiment?
    From Russia with love,
    D.T.

  737. Andrea Rossi

    D. Travchenko:
    Good question. We will put our plants wherever they will be wanted, along the market waves vibrations. Russia is a great Country, with a tremendous potential and we are looking for Russia with extreme interest.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  738. Curiosone

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    We know that the first plants of 1 MW will be made in the USA. Where do you think will be made the following ones outside the USA? Which will be the places you think will be privileged? Can you give a hint of this?
    Thank you for the time you dedicate to us,
    W.G.

  739. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    Sweden: we are making up in Sweden a very strong team of young, aggressive and very well prepared physicists with strong enterpreneurial bases. Sweden is also a logic place for the development of the E-Cat , due to the weather, and the system of distributed heating that is fit for our technology. Obviously we are also looking with deep respect all the other Countries of the world, but you asked me which place will be first: I think Sweden. Also because I want to make the Vasaloppett before getting too old ( he,he,he…).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  740. Andrea Rossi

    Dear Readers:
    Update to your FAQ:
    1- Report: I still do not know when the report will be published, as it is not under my control.
    Remember: the results could be positive or negative.
    If I receive information about publication timeframes, I will share it at that time. Otherwise, for me, it is clearly impossible to share information I do not have.
    2- R&D: we have a robust R&D program, consistent with the expectations of the market. As the chief scientist, I focus on improving the operation of the E-Cat, ensuring quality control, testing and evaluation.
    3- Our Customers: information about our Customers, obviously, is confidential. When visits to a plant operated by a Customer of us in his factory will be ready to be allowed, due information will be given to the accepted Visitors.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  741. Steven N. Karels

    Jaroslaw Bem,

    What’s a factor of 10 among friends? Thanks for the analysis.

  742. Jaroslaw Bem

    Steven N. Karels

    You wrote June 8th 2014 “One gram of converted mass = 2700 MWHrs of energy.” And “If an eCat is run at 10kW average output for one year, about 87 MWhrs of energy would have been produced assuming continuous operation. Therefore, about 0.03 grams of mass would have been consumed.”

    My calculation show that 1 g = 25 GWh energy:
    E = mc^2
    m = 1 g = 0.001 kg
    c = 3 E+8 m/s
    E = 0.001 kg * (3 E+8 m/s)^2 = 9 E+13 J
    To convert energy J (Joule) to GWh :
    1 GWh = 3.6 E+12 J
    Then
    E = 9 E+13 (J) / 3.6 E+12 ( J/GWh) = 25 GWh
    Then
    1 g = 25 GWh

    Follow this: 87 MWh energy produced for one year by ECAT = 0.003 g

    Best regards
    Jaroslaw Bem
    Poland

  743. Steven N. Karels

    eernie1,

    I am not lightly dismissing anti-matter. But I am ignorant of such interactions and thus the possibility. I believe it would be a more difficult explanation for most Physicists to accept it as plausible. But Andrea Rossi need not explain his reaction. Others will probably do that. His is the task of demonstrating positive results through credible and totally independent means. I think he is on the right track, if the results are positive.

  744. eernie1

    Steven,
    I would not dismiss Anti-matter so quickly. Positron emission from reverse Beta decay combining with external electrons to produce Gamma photons has been observed.

  745. Steven N. Karels

    Koen,

    Elegantly written. But all I have is Einstein’s equation and the relationship of generated energy requires an appropriate mass reduction. Nuclear Physics is not my primary expertise. But what I have read and what I understand is that some form of fusion is most likely the mechanism in LENR. There are only a limited number of known fusion reactions and each reaction consumes certain elements and generates new elements or isotopes. Until before and after measurements are made on the fuel, we will be “whistling in the wind”. Anti-matter is my least probable solution. Unless we first discover Klingons, Vulcans and DiLithium crystals (LOL).

  746. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Yes, you have understood: we have to go forward step by step, maintaining solid hold with the soil we are marching through. Otherwise the dream will be destroyed.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  747. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine, Matt Robinson:
    simply delighting.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  748. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Are you making a brand new 1 MW plant in North Carolina for display — or refurbishing the one you shipped from Italy?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  749. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    You are right, I agree.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  750. Joseph Fine

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Matt Robinson wrote a new poem about the E-Cat and the Third Party Independent Tests. Giuliano Bettini and I made some minor contributions to this effort. I didn’t want to risk making further changes to it, so here it is. It was intended to come out before the Independent Report while I wanted it to come out before Friday 13th. I apologize for any grammatical, spelling or alignment errors. Enjoy.

    Poetic regards. ;) -JF

    _____________________________________________

    IN MERCATU VERITAS by Matt Robinson *

    Composed with contingency dependent on the positive outcome of a certain report allegedly being prepared for publication, and a slight nod to T. S. Eliot’s ‘Macavity’

    A word of caution ‘fore you read,
    this is based on supposition
    That certain tests, we hear complete,
    could bolster my position.

    I feel that we are getting near
    the day the news will break
    I’m hoping that it’s positive,
    for all our children’s sake.

    The Rossi Cat ‘s a mystery cat,
    but some have claimed they saw
    The undeniable evidence
    that truth defies the ‘Law’.

    Unmentioned in the media,
    by others ‘t is denied
    But Rossi says, in all due time,
    the people will decide.

    The news that’s been kept hidden from
    the Wall Street’s opening bell
    Is going to be released quite soon,
    Confidently, I foretell.

    But I wish that they would hurry up
    and get the data written
    So then I can prepare my home
    for my new domestic kitten.

    The day is fast approaching when
    to all ‘t will be revealed
    The book of evidence, held ‘loft,
    and publicly unsealed.

    Yet once again we’ll hear the cry,
    ‘A hoax!’-'They all have lied!’
    But now’s the time that truth will out,
    the people will decide.

    So what if Big Financiers plot,
    and try to keep it hidden
    And Big Science and the media
    do whatever they are bidden?

    Well, if it’s mass-produced in China,
    there’ll be a thousand on each tide
    And Rossi says, in all due time,
    the people will decide.

    Health and Safety staff, and Customs men,
    will intercept and frisk her
    They’ll scrutinize the paws and ears,
    and in between each whisker.

    The ones that know, that’s you and I,
    will regard this all as fickle
    For all that they will find inside
    is a small amount of Nickel.

    There’ll be Cats in every quarter,
    from Beijing to Peru
    You’ll even find them purring
    in far off Kathmandu.

    They’ll heat our homes, desalinate,
    and go on to power our flight
    And the people will decide for sure,
    ‘t was Rossi that was right!

    And when she’s all fired up and hot,
    and the steam begins to flow
    ‘Tis then that we can stand up proud,
    and say ‘We told you so’.

    The Rossi cat will shake the world,
    all tests have been applied
    Released unto each continent,
    the market will decide.

    At the closing peal of Wall Street’s bell
    on that day of great renown
    The Bulls and Bears will pull their hair,
    their world turned upside down.

    The Cat becomes a Lion, and
    she’ll stalk the world with pride
    It won’t have taken very long
    for the people to decide.

    We’ll owe him a great indebtitude,
    his name will be revered
    Long after all detractors and
    the snakes have disappeared.

    Our children will be born into
    a future warm and bright
    The mystery? It’s history,
    the E-Cat works, alrrrrright!

    We’re telling you that times have changed,
    the future’s in our hands-
    The wheel has turned full circle,
    the past buried in the sands.

    Empires have all come and gone,
    that’s plain to one who thinks
    Tomorrow has a bright new dawn-
    all thanks to Rossi’s ‘Sphinx’.

    * (with suggestions from Giuliano Bettini and Joseph Fine)

  751. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Certification is but a detail. I dream of eCats and of a Mouse and a Cat and maybe a Tiger or two. I foresee a future with eCat technology everywhere. Where children think we lived in caves before the advent of eCats. How could anyone possibly live without this technology?? — will be the resounding echo throughout the future ages?

    Andrea, my friend, you live in the world of certification, making it work, designing it better, deadlines, budget issues. I fly through the dream world of possibilities, of opportunities, of delight. Mine is a sweeter path then yours, until you make it all work. Then we shall all stand in awe in your presence (LOL). But for right now, today, make it work!

  752. alutam

    Andrea,
    You have previously mentioned smaller e-cat testing. Would a small device the size of a spark plug, hollow in the center and fitted with an injector for water to flash to steam, be a suitable replacement for a spark plug in an internal combustion engine? Just fill the tank with water instead of gas?
    Regards.

  753. Andrea Rossi

    Alutam:
    At the moment it is not feasible.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  754. Koen Vandewalle

    Steven,
    Indeed, E-cat will leave some ash:
    that of burnt critics.

    As for good tradition, their masters will dump that ash somewhere.
    That’s a shame. Some were good looking and eloquent writers.

    About the nuclear ash: the more uncomplete the theories that are written, spread and teached, the more difficult it becomes to link the true parts of them and find truth.
    There seems to exist numerous kinds of Higgs-Bosons. If antimatter can be created in colliders, then this may indicate that matter or antimatter are self-creating. Maybe just as waves, driven from the Higgs Bosons. When matter and antimatter are fused, maybe just the Higgs Bosons are merged, which afterward creates new matter or anti-matter. The resulting structure (proton, neutron, electron or their anti-equivalent) and released energy may depend on the collision parameters, and therefore be as unpredictable as the weather. One could wonder if this also happens in stars. Do we have instruments that can observe the non-creation of anti-matter, or the merging or non-merging of Higgs Bosons in stars ? So how sure can we then be of theories ?
    I really don’t know. Just reading and trying to understand as much as possible, just like you and many others here on JoNP. About what happens in E-cat: Andrea Rossi’s silence is rock solid. Just keep drilling, my friend. The blog of JoNP is thousands of pages long now. It is a goldmine. At least we have that.

    Kind regards,
    Koen

  755. Steven N. Karels

    Using eCat Technology for a Campfire

    Could an eCat reactor be used to replace wood for a typical campground fire?

    Assumptions:
    5 lbs of seasoned wood (20% moisture), lasts 6 hours.
    20MBTUs/cord, 85 lbs/cord

    Energy produced by campfire wood burning = 5 lbs * 20MBTUs/cord * 1 cord/85 lbs = 1.17 MBTUs = 1.234 * 10+9 Joules

    Average Power = 1.234 * 10+9 Joules / 21,600 sec = 5.7 * 10+4 W = 57 kW

    About 5 or 6 eCat 10kW reactors could produce the heat of a typical campfire.

  756. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N.Karels:
    This kind of utilization is not certified for.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  757. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    The following was posted on E-Cat World today by Billy Jackson, and since it was addressed to you, I repost it here with his permission.

    Re: Andrea Rossi’s Anxiety over Test results:

    Absolutely understandable. You would have to be inhuman to not have anxiety for what Rossi is waiting on.

    This is more than a proof of concept, or even validation. This is the culmination of a world changing life’s work by Rossi that will affect every facet of our world that uses energy. For Rossi himself you’re talking about a man who has struggled in past endeavors and is on the verge of going from obscurity to possibly a household name alongside that of Edison, Tesla, or Einstein.

    This is not a small accomplishment by any means. if the E-cat works and the validation is there.. .the impact this will have on the world and the human race can’t be understated. After this it will just be more and better efficiencies, while possibly shrinking the technology. It won’t happen fast and overnight, but it will happen. Sheer market forces alone will push this technology out to the public and industries.

    Mr Rossi — this is your baby . . . and like any father in the waiting room will tell you … when you hear that first cry … even if its behind closed doors…there is no other feeling like it… Stand Strong we are all waiting with you in support! Thanks for having the courage to challenge what we believe in.

  758. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    It is not a plant for display. It is a plant that will be installed in the factory of a Customer to work and make profit from its work. It is not a test, as made so far. I cannot give more specific information now, I am not allowed to.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  759. LMV

    Hi Andrea
    This is as important as the TIP report
    Can the visitors “kick the wheels ” and check a few things out?

  760. Andrea Rossi

    LMV:
    Every action produces a reaction equal and contrary, as you know: I suggest anybody not to kick anything ( he,he,he). Allowed visitors will have all the possible and due information, but it is not a theater, it is the factory of a Customer.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  761. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    Displaying the 1MW plant will be like the Wright brothers first flights.

  762. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie 1:
    …which have been made in North Carolina!
    Warm Regadrds
    A.R.

  763. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1, Steven N. Karels:
    Obviously we are talking of an industrial 1 MW plant in continuous operation in the factory of a Customer.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  764. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    I know that you and the readers of this site are anxious to find out the date of the TPI report publication. For me, the report would be interesting but my anxiety is directed to the date when your device will be open to public observation. This event does not need any outside reports to achieve your goal for complete conformation of your work. Can you give us a ball park(x months)time that you expect this to happen?

  765. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie 1:
    You are right! We will communicate the date of the opening of the visits in due time: I want not to give now a date, because this topic is very delicate, and if I give a date I must be sure of it. But a date will be given, for sure. I am working now only focused on this !!!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  766. gillana

    Dear A.Rossi
    I can understand your anxiety about the test results after years of work and testing but it is precisely for this reason that I do not understand your uncertainty on the outcome of the same which suggests a lack of confidence in your own creation.
    Maybe it could be a superstitious attitude but could be interpreted as a desire to cover yourself.
    After years of trying, tuning and refinement of your appliance finally you do know it works without the possibility of being denied or be proved wrong , so I would expect a more optimistic attitude in the circumstances.
    Best regards
    Gillana

  767. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Waiting for the results of a independent system test is like waiting for the birth of your first born. Anticipation but worry that everything will turn out okay.

    I know you have done your preparation and validated the eCat before releasing it to the independent professors. But they “might get it wrong” : this is unlikely since there are all of them to cross-check each other and know that they will be criticized if they do something wrong or were fooled. Have confidence in your “new child”, the eCat will do as it is expected to perform, no better, no worse. Patience is a hard thing to learn, especially quickly (LOL).

  768. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    I agree with you.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  769. Andrea Rossi

    Billy Jackson, Frank Acland:
    Thank you. I am really grateful for these encouraging words.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  770. orsobubu

    Continuum Discretum, thanks for the corrections, I’ve definitely had a lesson in philosophy. Probably I should better be writing in more colloquial style for the future. Obviously I was wrong to express myself, also in the content. The terrorist is clearly materialistic, and is a derived ideology from bourgeoise class. The fathers of italian homeland, in their democratic struggle against old democratic regimes in nineteenth century, Mazzini above all, were among the ideologues of the terrorist form of political action. However, I consider to have been quite successful, for now, only to have two sentences criticized by those who are able to study the Phenomenology. I’d like to continue and possibly be criticized moreover by you via private email, if you agree. To return to the issue of cultural matrix in Communist and Catholic terrorism of the 70s in Italy, I’ll only note that the first were inspired by marxism, then betrayed it by their actions, as it is clear from your examplar definitions of materialism and dialectics. I have direct knowledge of the environment from which those who have recently attacked Rossi come, despite they not having had anything to do with acts of political violence, of course. With regard to the violence of Catholic inspiration, it has been present in Italy at that time (and before!) and that makes me conclude that neither idealism, in this case the belief in a god, is a guarantee of scientific and non-violent behavior. I have personally known quite materialistic atheists who given great contribution to the development of science (even Einstein perhaps was not an atheist, but was not provided with faith either, may be call him a spinozian?) and, on the other hand, men of faith who know everything about Thomas Aquinas but are quite unable to accept Kant critics, and probably would favor a return to an obscurantist era. I consider myself a dialectic materialist, I have ideals of course but I’m not an idealist, nor metaphysical, neither reactionary nor dialectical. I think that marxism is the only scientific interpretation of the world, able to realize a future without reactionary violence and inspired by scientific criteria of social progress.

  771. Daniel De Caluwé

    @Continuum Discretum,

    Thank you for your very interesting message.

    The ‘cute, white, living rabbit that comes out of a worn out, filthy hat’, is the synthesis (or new knowledge or consciousness), as the outcome of the conflict between thesis and anti-thesis, isn’t it? The theosofy of Alice Bailey and Benjamin Creme also know this dialectics as the fundamental soul-ray of humanity (as a whole), called the 4th ray of ‘harmony through conflict’, that also explains the history of humanity… And it’s also interesting to know that, according to Benjamin Creme, Hegel, who developed the concept of dialectics, had a 4th ray soul… So yes, humanity and its science evolve in a dialectic way, also demonstrated on this forum, and hopefully ‘pulling a cute, white, living rabbit out of a worn out, filthy hat’ on every turn… ;-)

  772. LMV

    Hi Andrea,

    Is the Rossi effect associated with Quantum Tunneling?

  773. Andrea Rossi

    LMV:
    I cannot give information regarding how the reactor works, so far.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  774. Continuum Discretum

    Dear orsobubu,
    I have to correct your wrong usage of the term “idealism” in following sentences:

    “This idealism, deeply opposed to marxist materialism, was also typical of an italian catholic vision from which other terrorist groups came, also inspired by a sort of divine mission of social justice.”
    [...]
    “So, the violent anti-Rossi crusade of some journalists comes from a violent, idealist background typical of the 70s and ends today with fundamentalist idealism of official and ‘good’ leftist science.”

    This mistake could be excused if it was written in colloquial language (“idealism” as a mere ethical stance), but since your diction suggests some sort of scientific reflection, it has to be corrected. Not only is “idealism” an inappropriate term concerning the form of expression, but on top of that – concerning the content – actually the opposite is true: The – materialistic – aspect of Dialectic Materialism is the culprit for the anarchic and terroristic aberrations of some parts of 20th century leftist “culture”.
    As everywhere we see right here how Dialectics evolves and turns opposites into each other. The term “dialectic” in “Dialectic Materialism” is a remnant of the Idealism of Hegel: Marx was his scholar (in mind) and his theories are deeply grounded in Hegel’s idealistic analysis of the structures of physical and social reality. Only because of the acceptance of some eternal structure of matter, Marx was able to work on the concept of “law of history”. If he would have been only a materialist, then there would be no necessity for restrictions on how society could govern its own fate, and he would have advocated instant anarchic revolution without reflection on historic conditions.
    Yet again Dialectic shows its omnipresent force: Materialism could be interpretated as total determinism, so that everything is subjected to the laws of matter. In such a context it would be “idealistic” to believe in free will and the possibility to change and write history.
    The solution to this seeming paradox is Dialectics itself: There is no materialism without Idealism. We could even say, that there is no Idealism without materialism, but that would be confusing. More accurate is: There is no Idealism without matter. Because materialism is not able to reflect on Weltanschauungen / not able to describe mental standpoints with its pure materialistic terms, it is not able to encompass neither Idealism, nor itself as a stance of mind. Idealism on the other hand is not only able to include the (mental) form of materialism, but on top of that even able to deduce its content (the structure of matter) and make its principles fundamental part of its own corpus.
    That’s the reason why Hegel was able to anticipate advances in Theoretical Physics of 20th century.
    Why unidealistic pseudo-scientists fail to improve our knowledge of the universe.
    And why a philosopher inspired by God like Andrea Rossi has to do their job.
    The answer to the questions of science lies in the diligent study of Dialectics, compared to which the theory of general relativity reads like bedtime reading. To those without knowledge of the Idea, the elucidation of its process appears like the mysterious act of pulling a cute, white, living rabbit out of a worn out, filthy hat.

  775. Steven N. Karels

    orsobubu,

    I would love to work with Andrea Rossi’s team. But being added to an existing team would be very difficult and perhaps, non-productive. Though, I would find it fascinating.

    A more realistic hope might be working for Andrea Rossi in applications and technical support of sales sometime in the near future. That would be a dream job.

    But for now, if I could intermittently add some insight to Andrea Rossi, let him know what we are thinking and reacting to the announcements and posting as the eCat story is told and be supportive of his work, that for me will be sufficent.

    This product has the potential of a major shift in energy production, if it is true. We must always maintain a neutral perspective and we must not fall into blind obdience or faith.

  776. Steven N. Karels

    Koen,

    One gram of converted mass = 2700 MWHrs of energy. Known nuclear reactions convert some form of material into another form of material with some loss of mass (converted to energy). The resultant material has been called “nuclear ash” and is telltale as to which reaction is happening.

    Unless this is a matter & anti-matter operation, there should be some “nuclear ash”. However, the amount of “nuclear ash” may be very small.

    If an eCat is run at 10kW average output for one year, about 87 MWhrs of energy would have been produced assuming continuous operation. Therefore, about 0.03 grams of mass would have been consumed. The amount of mass compared to the mass of an eCat (kilograms) would be very difficult to measure. By analyzing the spent fuel, it may be possible to deduce the “nuclear ash” unless it escapes into the test environment (e.g., helium). The lack of a “nuclear ash” is troubling as it should be observable in grams of material (unless it escaped).

  777. Koen Vandewalle

    Steven,
    Why must there be ash?
    I think there is no ash.

    Kind regards,
    Koen

  778. orsobubu

    Steven Karels,

    nobody here is more qualified than you in understanding these mysterious issues.
    I remember months ago you had done the calculations to guess the average COP of a Cat reactor and Mouse activator combo system. Now what are your best up-to-date estimates? For an expert in thermal engineering like you, and this is true for other visitors of JONP, wouldn’t be fantastic to be able to work directly together with Rossi’s team? This is something that I’ve always wondered.

  779. Alessandro Coppi

    Hi Andrea, in your feeling, how much time left from the D day? I want to start a countdown of the days, can I start by 10?

    Radiosa aurora!

    Alessandro Coppi

  780. Andrea Rossi

    Alessandro Coppi:
    I have no idea.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  781. Hello Andrea,

    As you wait for the group of professors to grade the final exam :-) , it is great again to remember and celebrate your own birthday, (which recently snuck by).

    Here is another short clip from the collection of interviews you gave last year:

    http://vimeo.com/97480659

    Enjoy these wonderful times.

    -thomas

  782. Andrea Rossi

    Thomas Florek:
    Very funny, thank you,
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  783. Giuliano Bettini

    Caro Andrea Rossi,
    lei parla giustamente di “ansietà”.
    E’ vero, ma le motivazioni possono essere le più varie.
    Per quanto mi riguarda, non lo dico su Facebook perché i miei amici Joseph Fine, Don Witcher eccetera eccetera non approverebbero, io sono totalmente disinteressato ai successi commerciali a breve termine e anche al “mercatu veritas”. Mi interessa l’ingegneria ma meglio ancora la Fisica. Ciò che penso sia importante è aver scoperto qualcosa di veramente nuovo, in Fisica. Con tutte le conseguenze che ci possiamo immaginare.
    Quindi, tutto sommato, la cosa che mi lascia più perplesso è questa SUA ansietà, rispetto al “positive or negative”. Posso capire, o intuire, le ragioni più svariate, per chi ci ha dedicato tanto della propria vita. Non capisco invece i dettagli. Cerco di spiegarmi in sintesi, anche se con parole che mi scuso se imprecise. “Positive or negative” CHE COSA?
    1 E’ il timore che dei test negativi vanifichino tutto il lavoro fatto da una vita su un prodotto?
    oppure
    2 è il timore che dei testi terzi, accurati, dimostrino infine che c’era un malinteso e tutto quanto è stato un’illusione?
    Mentre 1 non mi interessa, invece 2 mi rende ansioso. I ragazzi degli acceleratori hanno continuato a studiare la Fisica sbattendo particelle le une sulle altre, qui invece si aprirebbe un capitolo del tutto nuovo. Anzi un libro del tutto nuovo.
    ………
    Vabbè, comunque sia
    ad maiora
    Giuliano Bettini.

    Dear Andrea,
    you refer to “anxiety.”
    It ‘s true, but the reasons can be varied.
    As for me, I do not say so on Facebook because my friends Joseph Fine, Don Witcher et cetera would not approve, I’m totally uninterested in commercial success in the short term and also to the ” In Mercatu Veritas”. I’m interested in engineering, but even better in Physics. What I think is important is to have discovered something new, in Physics. With all the consequences that we can imagine.
    So, all in all, the thing that leaves me puzzled is YOUR anxiety, regarding to the “positive or negative”. I can understand, or guess, the most different reasons, for those who have dedicated so much of their lives. I do not understand the details instead. I try to explain in a nutshell, albeit with words that I apologize if inaccurate. “Positive or Negative” WHAT?
    1 Is it the fear of negative tests that undermine all the work done by a life of a product?
    or
    2 Is it a fear that “third” texts, accurate, finally prove that there was a misunderstanding and everything was an illusion?
    While I do not care 1, 2 instead makes me anxious. The “accelerators guys” are continuing to study the Standard Model crashing particles , but here it would open a whole new chapter. In fact a whole new book.
    ………
    Oh well, anyway
    ad maiora
    Giuliano Bettini.

  784. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    1- no, it is not
    2- no, it is not either
    The anxiety is generated by the immense importance of a test made by a third independent party of experts of the field, in a neutral laboratory, for a long time, collecting millions of data examined for months, analyzed in independent laboratories of different Universities, for the first time in the history of LENR. Let me make a simple example: you have to sustain an exam , a difficult one, in a University’s Faculty; you have studied well, you made tests by yourself, you are sure to have understood the matter, but the exam is long and the result of the exam will be important for your future career: shouldn’t you be anxious? That’s my feeling, aggravated from the fact that I have not a clue of when there will be the results and I have not a clue either about the work that the Professors are doing.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  785. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Thank you, interesting.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  786. Curiosone

    Dear Dr Rossi:
    Thank you, very good definition in 12 words!
    You made simple a complicated concept, as you made for the photon some day ago. You have this characteristic, to make simple complicated things. Maybe this is your gift, at the base of your inventions.
    God bless you,
    W.G.

  787. Joseph Fine

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Below is a link to an article from eurekalert on the synthesis of Nickel Carbon Fullerenes. The lead author (‘Andrey Popov’) is not sure of the practical applications of this new structure.
    Maybe you will find a new use for this in your work.

    http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-06/miop-mon060614.php

    Nickel-Fullerene regards,

    Method of nickel-carbon heterofullerenes synthesis presented

    Russian, British and Spanish scientists presented a new method of nickel-carbon heterofullerenes synthesis

    Scientists from several British, Spanish and Russian research centers (MIPT, Institute for Spectroscopy RAS, Kurchatov Institute and Kintech Lab Ltd) have come up with a method of synthesizing a new type of nickel-carbon compound. The article titled Formation of nickel-carbon heterofullerenes under electron irradiation has been published by Dalton Transactions and is available as a pre-print at arxiv.org. The first author of the article is Alexander Sinitsa, an MIPT student, and the leading author is Andrey Popov (Institute for Spectroscopy RAS, 1989 MIPT graduate).

    Heterofullerenes are hollow molecules with a nearly-spherical shape, which, unlike the typical fullerenes, contain atoms of elements other than carbon. Such compounds were synthesized quite a while ago, in 1991, but till now no heterofullerenes containing nickel, or any other transition metal, have been obtained. Yet, as the authors point out in their article, transition metals are now being studied as catalysts in the synthesis of carbon nanotubes and graphene.

    “I’d like to emphasize that the majority of calculations have been performed by a student. Hopefully, students regularly visit the MIPT site and get inspired by their colleagues’ successes. If you are especially interested in the role of MIPT graduates in research, then I can tell you that Irina Lebedeva graduated from the Institute in 2008, and Andrey Knizhnik, perhaps in 1999, but I’m not exactly sure about the year. I’d also like to point out that Elena Bichoutskaia (a Saint Petersburg State University Faculty of Physics graduate) is a member of the Russian diaspora abroad, which is typical of international cooperation of Russian scientists,” Andrey Popov told the MIPT Press Service.

    The synthesis of nickel heterofullerenes is supposed to be carried out under electron irradiation, which is used in high-resolution transmission electron microscopy (HRTEM) in order to obtain detailed snapshots showing, if needed, separate atoms. A number of previous experiments conducted by various research groups demonstrated that electronic irradiation can also be applied to synthesize a variety of nanostructures, e.g., one-layer carbon fullerene-filled nanotubes were transformed into two-layer ones.

    Using the latest data obtained from the HRTEM images and the results of computer modelling by methods of molecular dynamics, the scientists have shown the potential possibility to transform graphene flakes with nickel cluster into nickel-carbon heterofullerene.

    The scientists, though, are not sure about the practical application of such heterofullerenes. According to Andrey Popov, “these new-type molecules can reveal some interesting electronic, magnetic, and optic features, or it may be possible to combine them with some organic functional complexes of interest to biologists and physicians. They can also be used to create 3D organic-metallic structures to store hydrogen”.

    In their work, the researchers developed and applied an authentic algorithm for modelling electron-nanostructure interactions. This allows taking into account both fast (just tens of picoseconds) and slow (lasting for full seconds) processes. The fast processes are associated with electron collisions, and the slow ones relate to molecular relaxation.

  788. Wladimir Guglinski

    Upcoming two books by W. Guglinski:

    1) The Evolution of Physics – from Newton to Rossi’s eCat

    2) The Missed U-Turn – the duel Heisenberg vs Schrödinger

    .

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    From: Wladimir
    To: “psomani1@yahoo.com”
    Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 5:25 PM
    Subject: submission book: THE MISSED U-TURN

    Applied Science Innovations
    The Director (Publishing Department)
    APPLIED SCIENCE INNOVATIONS PRIVATE LIMITED

    Dear Editor

    I am the author of the book Quantum Ring Theory, published in 2006 in a book form by the Bauu Instute Press.

    http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/quantum-ring-theory-wladimir-guglinski/1100923587?ean=9780972134941

    I would like to submit for publication my book THE MISSED U-TURN , in which it is explained for the laymen the foundations and models proposed in my Quantum Ring Theory,

    In 2011 two important experiments had been published, and they defy some foundations of the current Theoretical Physics.

    In order to explain those two experiments, the journal Nature published in 2012 the paper How Atomic Nuclei Cluster and the European Physical Journal D published in 2013 the paper The quantum vacuum as the origin of the speed of light.

    The results of the two experiments had been predicted in my book Quantum Ring Theory. And the journal Nature published an argument proposed in the page 137 of my book, while in the paper published by the European Physical Journal it is proposed a structure for the space which is the same structure proposed in my book.

    So, the journals Nature and European Physical Journal published plagiarisms of some ideas proposed in my book.

    And in 2013 the journal Nature published the paper Studies of pear-shaped nuclei using accelerated radioactive beams, describing the anomalous shape of the nucleus Ra224. In order to explain that anomally, the Prof. Butler of the Liverpool University had proposed the existence of an z-axis within the nuclei.

    The existence of the z-axis had been predicted in my Quantum Ring Theory, and it is mentioned in several pages of my book. In the page 133 it is written:

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    The distribution about the z-axis is a nuclear property up to now unknown in Nuclear Physics
    ——————————————————————————

    I am sending an attachment where I explain with details the plagiarisms by Nature and European Physical Journal D.

    More about the book
    THE MISSED U-TURN
    can be seen in this link:

    Unsolved Modern Physics puzzles solved in Quantum Ring Theory
    http://zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3526

    Regards
    Wladimir Guglinski
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    Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 07:51:43 -0700
    From: psomani1@yahoo.com
    Subject: Re: submission book: THE MISSED U-TURN
    To: wladimirguglinski@hotmail.com
    CC: pssomani@yahoo.com

    Respected Sir,

    Thank you very much for your e-mail and interest to collaborate with us.

    We will be honored to publish your book. Since our company is a small company and considering the high quality of your book, it can be published as an OPEN ACCESS BOOK so as to reach to maximum audience without restriction. This can also serve as a proof to your proposals / theory and predictions. However, due to small size of our company, we may not be able to offer you any honorarium for the same. We would like to undertake publishing of your book.

    I look forward for your reply .

    With best regards and highest respects.

    Prakash Somani

    Dr. Prakash R. Somani
    UN-ICTP-Fellow, JSPS-Fellow (JAPAN),
    Editor – Carbon Science and Technology (ASIPL)
    Editorial Board Member – Nanoscience and Nanotechnology,
    ISRN-Spectroscopy, Sensors and Transducers Journal (1995 – 2012).

    Former Faculty : C-MET, Pune; JIIT, Noida (Jaypee University); BITS-pilani, INDIA.
    Adjunct Faculty – Department of Physics, Banasthali University, Rajasthan, India.
    Founder and Research Director
    Applied Science Innovations Private Limited (ASIPL),
    Vijaynagar, Building No. 3, 4th Floor, B-14,
    Dhayari, Near Dharashwar Mandir, Sinhagad Road,
    Pune – 411041, Maharashtra, INDIA.

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    From: wladimirguglinski@hotmail.com
    To: psomani1@yahoo.com
    CC: ver@cisp-publishing.com
    Subject: RE: Book
    Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 12:16:51 -0300

    Dear Dr. Prakash Somani

    I decided to publish the book with your publishing house

    I dont care about to make money. So, I let you the decision for the format of publication. I also think that the most interested format is the open acess format, in order to get the larger audience possible.

    I will send an email to Victor Riecansky, telling him that, since the Cambridge International Science Publishing did not publish the book in the time accorded in the Aggreement, then I am giving up of publishing the book by CISP, because the book will be published by your publishing house.
    I will send the email with a copy to you

    Therefore, I will sign the Transfer of Copyright Aggreement with your publishing house.

    I am sending a copy of this email for Victor Riecansky.

    regards
    Wladimir Guglinski
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    Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 21:50:08 -0700
    From: psomani1@yahoo.com
    Subject: Re: Agreement of the book THE MISSED U-TURN
    To: wladimirguglinski@hotmail.com

    Dear Sir,
    Good Day. We estimated the cost of publishing your book which is as following –

    (a) only open access publishing as a PDF file on the web site and maintaining it for about 10 years – US $ 4000/-

    (b) Open Access Publishing + Print Copies (500) – US $ 5000/-

    (c) Only Print copies (500) – US $ 4000/-

    I am interested to know if you can contribute (at least partially) towards this cost. It is no way compulsion. However, since ours is a small company, it will help.
    We will go for the first option of Open Access publishing.

    With best regards
    Prakash Somani
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    From: wladimirguglinski@hotmail.com
    To: psomani1@yahoo.com
    Subject: RE: Agreement of the book THE MISSED U-TURN
    Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 22:12:28 -0300

    Dear Dr. Prakash

    It is hard for me to contribute for the publication.

    Besides, there is other reason why I cannot contribute, as I explain as follows

    When an author has a bad theory with no scientific merit, and he wants to publish her, he needs to pay for the publication, since his theory is bad.

    I never paid a cent for publication of my theory. Because I always had started from the following viewpoint: if the theory has no scientific merit, she does not deserve to be published. And so it makes no sense to pay for her publication.

    I never used to help my theory by contributing with money for her publication. I left to herself the task to conquest her own publication. If she had no scientific merit, then she would not deserve to be published.
    My theory is being successful in getting by herself her own publication, thanks to her scientific merit, since many of her predictions are being confirmed by several experiments along the years. And in 2012 and 2013 she had been even plagiarized by two of the most important worldwide scientific journals.

    If I had payed to publish my theory , my oponents would claim that she has no scientific merit, saying that the reason why I had to pay for her publication was the missing of merit of the theory.

    And I would like to keep the pride of to say that I had never paid a cent for the publication of my theory.

    I hope you may understand my reasons

    regards
    Wladimir Guginski
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    Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 18:40:38 -0700
    From: psomani1@yahoo.com
    Subject: Re: Agreement of the book THE MISSED U-TURN
    To: wladimirguglinski@hotmail.com

    Dear Sir,
    No issues. We are going ahead for publication of your books.
    I should contact you with the final typeset draft till 15 – 20 June.

    With best regards
    Prakash Somani
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  789. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Good luck for your books!
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  790. Steven N. Karels

    orsobubu,

    I still have issues with the Rossi effect. Based on previous postings, it is as though no “nuclear ash” is observed. I assume Andrea Rossi has either not seen it (e.g., it may have escaped the test apparatus during long tests) or it may be that he has observed something but identifying would endanger his intellectual property rights or the duration and power output (i.e., the total energy produced) has been insufficient to produce significant amounts of “nuclear ash”.

    I also have problems understanding the eCat control mechanisms. Heat and “vibrations” are described along with “other” effects. But running in self-sustaining mode seems to me like it would be out-of-control but this does not appear to be the case so some other mechanism must be in place during self-sustaining mode to keep it from running away.

    So what we (the supporters but uninformed of the Rossi secrets) see is a potential energy device that is clean and low cost. But most scientists and engineers are lead to believe the LENR is “pseudo-science” and automatically dismiss it as measurement error or the work of a con-man. To this end, I think Andrea Rossi has chosen the most effective path – demonstrate the technology where there can be no chemically based explanation. Don’t publish the theory, let others try to explain the independently measured results. Hopefully, the independent researchers will have done their homework and have a bulletproof analysis and report.

  791. orsobubu

    Steven Karels, Hank Mills,

    I will try to explain some aspects of these attacks, at least for what concerns the Italian side. It is true that scientific evidence and the market will lead to the truth; but I believe that these characters are not actually much driven by an inability to scientific analysis, irrationality, hatred, jealousy, hostility, etc., but in a way that they are really idealistically “sincere” and “honest” in their actions. In the sense that they really believe they are right and they were invested with the task of leading a crusade in the name of science.

    Their cultural backgrounds is absolutely on the left side, and refers to the italian marxist culture in the 70s. Of course, there is nothing farther from the truth of their interpretation of marxism, so that one could apply to their case the famous phrase by Marx himself: If this is marxism, I am not a marxist. For a true dialectical materialist, the strength of technological, economic, social development, in a word the structure of the production relationships, is so dominant that it drags with it any superstructural ideology, moral, law, politics, religion, science, etc.

    The direction of this development tends inexorably to the maximum socialization of the means of production and, ultimately, toward anarchy and true freedom of man. The opposition the capitalist ruling class is trying to do in this process is not only obvious, but it is even Marxist, in the sense that it is a reactionary struggle necessary for the development of revolutionary working class consciousness. In this struggle, the wealth that will be destroyed by capitalism will be so great and the conditions under which the society will plummet so miserable that just a small, bloodless shove will be needed by a minority of organized workers to dialectically seize the power and finally start a new economy without money, without exploitation, based on limitless energy and automation.

    To the contrary, in the head of many italian “marxists” in the seventies, the intellectual must take a revolutionary, violent action, even by terrorism, a kind of superhero delirium, to show the ignorant people who the enemy is and to provoke an insurrection even if the historical moment is anything but the right one and actually people just try to stay better within the existing capitalist relationships. This idealism, deeply opposed to marxist materialism, was also typical of an italian catholic vision from which other terrorist groups came, also inspired by a sort of divine mission of social justice. Part of these intellectuals now attacking Rossi comes exactly from these cultures.

    After the failure of their attempts over the 70s and 80s, after the resumption of liberalism by Reagan and the fall of USSR (which they interpreted as the home of communism rather than as state capitalism), a part of them went directly to the service of capitalists in exchange for a rapid career; others retreated to more reformist themes, such as environmentalism, trade unionism, labor rights, the defense of immigrants, etc. Some results of this transformation were paradoxical, if you think about the origins of Marxism, which pursued the maximum production and absence of the capitalist crisis and wars, because led to believe in pauperism (equal poverty for everyone), to sustain the good, social, state capitalism, to the defense of the strict application of the bourgeois laws, etc, on the assumption that european capitalism can be a benign, humane and progressive, as opposed to the bad American liberal imperialism.

    So, the violent anti-Rossi crusade of some journalists comes from a violent, idealist background typical of the 70s and ends today with fundamentalist idealism of official and “good” leftist science. They forget that the origin of the problem lies in the social mechanism of exploitation that produces the money itself, believing instead that there is bad money made from the scam and theft, and good money produced in an ethical and humane system. In this sense I believe that they feel genuinely and sincerely invested in the moral authority to violently attack their enemies, even if it may end up being an instrument of some capitalistic camps and interests.

    You can read about other victims of theirs here:

    http://tinyurl.com/otsfg2w

  792. Andrea Rossi

    Orsobubu:
    Thank you for your permanent insight,
    Warm regards
    Andrea

  793. Curiosone

    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    To understand quantum mechanics is very difficult. Are you able to define quantum mechanics in less than 15 words?
    God bless you for your job,
    W.G.

  794. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    I propose this:
    All particles in the Standard Model are vibrating waves in particular fields.
    12 words in all.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  795. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    During your early experiments with nickel and various materials as a “catalyst”:

    1. Did you ever experiment with other materials than nickel, such as palladium?

    2. Did you ever try deuterium gas other than what is in natural hydrogen gas?

    3. Did you find several materials that acted as a catalyst?

  796. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    1- yes
    2- yes
    3- yes
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  797. Koen Vandewalle

    JoNP, Andrea Rossi, Magnus Holm,
    Does your computer model allow to explain the Rossi-Effect ?
    Not necessarily in quantities or energy out vs energy in, but the basic principles.

    The experimental evidence, derived from the TIP report of 2013, which is the real world event and generates the pathway to the development of usefull devices, does not explain very much about how LENR works.
    It learns that “this device” can produce Y kWh output for X kWh input, depending on a group of parameters.
    I can imagine that the nuclear scientists are doing measurements on the gamma radiations. It was mentioned that gammas in the range of tens of keV are produced while the E-cat operates.
    I find it disturbing that the critics talk so much about peripherals as: who paid for the travel expenses and the catering, and the authority or non-authority of observers, and nothing about the proven Gammas, which can only be produced by this new kind of reaction. If you only produce “one” gamma of this energy, then the reality of the effect is proven. Please correct me if this is a erroneous view.

    Of course, the economic viability depends on the whole technology that you and your team are developing and improving right now.

    We do not need the opinion of the last Roman Emperor on the use of smartphones, firearms and aircraft in 2015, although he was allways officially right in his age.

    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  798. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    Sorry, we cannot give information about this issue; besides, we do not know at all which kind of analysis the Professors of the Third Independent Party are doing.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  799. DTravchenko

    Dr Rossi:
    we read your comment saying not to insult your enemies: you are a giant.
    From Russia, with love,
    DT

  800. Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in June 3rd, 2014 at 8:17 PM

    Herb Gillis:
    What inspired me to begin, to be honest and sincere, has been the work of Prof Fleishmann and Prof Pons when it has been announced the first time. This is a merit they deserve, even if the electrolysis concept was, and still is, wrong. The electrolysis brings nowhere. Obviously, this is only my opinion and, as such, can be wrong.
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    Dear Andrea
    I suppose what you said is concerning the technological feasibility, since it is hard to replicate the cold fusion experiments made via electrolysis, and so it is hard to develop a technology viable to be placed in market.

    As I also suppose that you are agree that Fleishmann and Pons did succeed to get anomalous heat

    regards
    wlad

  801. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    I suppose that F&P were sincerely and honestly convinced of what they said.
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  802. Hank Mills

    Hello Andrea,

    I understand the hate you are experiencing from some parties, although I totally disagree with them. For example, in one case they can barely admit to themselves, or others, that your technology is real. They state that if it really does work how it has been described, it is beyond what they hoped could be achieved with LENR in todays age. They go so far to say it would be a near energy panacea. At the same time, they act extremely hostile because they can’t believe you are the individual to develop this technology. They criticise and attack your research and test methods and bash your character. I think most of this hostility comes from jealousy. They did not develop the tech, cannot latch onto it some how, and have been unsuccessful at copying it themselves. This infuriates them.

  803. Andrea Rossi

    Hank Mills:
    Thank you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  804. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiments. I have found that my most hardened critics can become strong allies as time passes and you demonstrate that which they oppose, provided you do not insult or injure them. Not only have we all made mistakes, but more than likely we have been on the wrong side of a disagreement. I do not understand the animosity regarding LENR. It seems to me, like any question of science, the evidence will lead to truth, one way or the other. I do see the possibility that fear of LENR, in that it might change the economics, can bring out the base elements of a human, to his or her loss of reason and objectivity. Fear is a strong emotion, yet as thinking humans, we can overcome that fear with reason.

  805. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Maybe you are not wrong.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  806. Andrea Rossi

    Walter Gentili:
    I did not publish your comment because it insults 3 journalists. I cannot accept insults, even if aimed to my “critics”. As Oscar Wilde said, “I do not agree with them, but I will fight to death to defend their freedom of opinion”. As a matter of fact, it is normal that we have enemies, competitors, critics. What I do not understand is hatred and insults. We are making a scientific work, our work has been tested and is still under exam and R&D and we are waiting for the results, that could be positive or negative, as I always said. All the rest is useless noise and I am exclusively focused on my job, now on the 1 MW plant: if it will work well, we will have a good product, otherwise we will have not. Both possibilities are true. About my past, let me be simple:
    1- I have been acquitted from the accusations that made possible my arrest: see http://www.ingandrearossi.com
    2- indipendently from the point 1: every man who has made mistakes in his past, after he has paid his debt with the justice has the right to be resilient and make up his life. I am working on the LENR now and the facts for which I have been put in jail happened between 1989 and 1995: 20 years ago and have nothing to do with LENR
    3- who is without sin can throw the first stone
    Please do not insult my enemies: we must not make their same errors.
    Warm Regards,
    Andrea Rossi

  807. Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Andrea,
    after 65 rounds, it might become time to teach. We do not know how much time is left.
    If your insights and experience allowed you to create this kind of technology, then the way you see and understand the universe and the matter, must be very inspiring for new generations. This force of inspiration and ideas is allways bound to living persons. Books can contain information, but they cannot create nor invent, and are often misunderstood without the possibility for them to correct the errors that their readers make.

    I really hope that there will be possibilities for very small businesses or even individuals to build ecat based devices for themselves, as many people of the world may not have access to the products that are made in a global market system. When important parts of the economy are collapsing in a region, then sometimes industries do disappear in that region. Especially the big and complex ones that need huge production numbers to be profitable.

    In times of recession and collapse, whatever the reason for that may be, we need more small and diverse production systems to survive. They are less efficient, and therefor not competitive in a globalizing economy, but they can better handle all sorts of fluctuations. Devastating events don’t eliminate them all.

    I read that you learnt a lot of things in your fathers’ steel carpentry. Not many of the new generations in EU have the chances to learn from their parents’ workshops. My grandfather was a farmer. On his farm I learnt hundreds of practical things and insights. Nowadays, these small farms don’t exist anymore. They were outcompeted. Some of my own children know very well tapping on their tablet computers, but they don’t have the touch with the real physics. They don’t even know how to start a campfire.

    So having facilities to produce things at home or in the vicinity is important to keep the humans strong and creative.
    I hope that your technology allows to support this.

    Best Regards,
    Koen

  808. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    Useful insight.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  809. I’ve uploaded a short interview clip with Andrea Rossi. It is in honor of his special day (and many more special days to come).

    http://vimeo.com/97480659

  810. Andrea Rossi

    Thomas Florek:
    Thank you for your work.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  811. Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi, I don’t know if this link will work.
    But if it does, you will know what plans Countries around the World have for Wind Energy from now until 2050.
    Their plans are huge.
    However, when E-Cat comes on the scene they will have
    serious competition.

    https:blu180.mail.live.com/default.aspx?n=627111407&fid=1#tid=cm5jO-dsDs4xGPqwAhWthXRA2&fid=flinbox

    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA

  812. Andrea Rossi

    Robert Curto:
    Thank you for the info.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  813. georgehants

    Dear Mr Rossi, just silly English humour about, I believe your report will be very positive, (although it could be negative).
    I give Spiritual prayers that it is positive, as your work has the potential to change the World forever.
    As long as those in power allow it’s free path to a Wonderful equality for all mankind.
    Best Wishes
    George

  814. Andrea Rossi

    Georgehants:
    Thank you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  815. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear Andrea,
    thanks for the kind response. I wonder (irrespective from the 3rd party analysis):
    surely you have done your measurements after a few Hot Cat long run test. Do you sometimes find some change in the isotopic composition?
    (I mean: you and/or your team).
    How would Joseph Fine, isotopic regards,
    Giuliano Bettini.

  816. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    What I found in my experiments does not matter. Anybody can say ” I have found the moon in the well”. Let’s wait for the results of the report of the Professors of the Third Independent Party. I know they are making rigorous, long and difficult analysis in their Swedish laboratories of different Institutes, because, they told me, no one University has all the necessary instrumentation, so they need the help of different laboratories and this takes time. Let them work in peace. We have to be patient; I understand, and sympathize, the anxiety of the public about this issue, but think to my own anxiety…if I can menage it, I think everybody can. Think what will happen to me should the results be negative…still a possible output, though, as far as I know.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  817. georgehants

    Dear Mr. Rossi, good advice, but if I had lost you must remember I was referring to New Taiwan Dollars at an exchange rate of 50 to one English pound.
    I bet I would have won though.
    Best wishes.

  818. Andrea Rossi

    Georgehants:
    …I wish I had understood!
    A.R.

  819. paul d kendall

    Dear Dr Rossi:
    I LOVE WHAT YOU ARE DOING… CHANGING THE WORLD – ENERGY, AH, THE STUFF DREAMS ARE MADE OF ! ( AND GOD – the source of all states of being/life – OF COURSE )
    What is your thinking on what NI – National Instruments ceo Jame Truchard requested ? That this new fusion be called or refered to as “The Quantum Reactor”
    (quantumreactor@gmail.com — I just created this email site..paul)

  820. Andrea Rossi

    Paul D. Kendall:
    Interesting.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  821. georgehants

    Dear Mr. Rossi, would you take a bet with me for $100 and I will offer you odds of 5/1 that the report will be considered successful .
    Best wishes

  822. Andrea Rossi

    Georgehants:
    When I was 10 years old my father wanted me to work in his steel carpentery during the Summer holidays. He said I had to learn that I have to work to earn anything. After a month I got my wage and the day after I have gone to the “oratorio”, the classic place close to the Church where in the fifties kids used to go to play soccer and socialize. Some were playing poker and I played with them and lost the fruit of one month of work, during which I returned everyday dirt from the workshop. Since then I didn’t bet even a cent that ” Tomorrow the Sun will rise”.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  823. Giuliano Bettini

    Dear Andrea,
    as you surely know, five professors (all Swedish) just released:
    http://www.nyteknik.se/asikter/debatt/article3830568.ece
    Google translated:
    “(….) new tests must be partly to clarify whether an anomalous heat production actually takes place and also investigate whether a change in the fuel’s overall isotopic composition takes place. (…) Such tests have now been carried out and the results will be reported in a new scientific article.”

    Signed: Bo Höistad , Torbjörn Hartman , Roland Pettersson , Lars Tegnér , Hanno Essén.

    I think this is very very interesting:
    “..and also investigate whether a change in the fuel’s overall isotopic composition takes place.”
    It seems that this issue has been foreseen in the test protocol this year.
    Are they authorized to do such kind of measurements?
    Best regards, ad maiora
    Giuliano Bettini.

  824. Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    This year the Third Independent Party had the possibility to make paramount measurements in total absence of us. I have no idea of all the measurements they made ( I only know some of them I saw during my presence in the neutral laboratory) and I have no idea of the topics of the report they are going to publish. I also have no idea of all the analysis they made and are still making in their own laboratories in Sweden.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  825. georgehants

    Dear Mr. Rossi, it is going to be a very philosophical situation, that when the “report” is shortly published (that can be positive or negative)one of the greatest scientists in history is going to be a philosopher.
    Best wishes

  826. Andrea Rossi

    Georgehants:
    Please, do not forget that I am a phylosopher that studies Theoretical Physics at least 2 hours per day since about forty years, plus the time I spent making experiments of Physics ( in the different fields I covered during my life), which is uncalculable, but in the range of 40 000 hours in 40 years of work : I made 64 turns around the Sun since when I have been born and I designed and studied my first plant , based on Physics principles, during my 22nd turn. Besides, if the results of the experiment made by the Third Independent Party will be negative I surely will not be considered much of a scientist.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  827. georgehants

    Dear Mr Rossi, may I congratulate you on being able to see the difference between Fact and opinion in your reply to Herb Gillis.
    Much of science would I think be improved if more scientists where to follow your lead.
    Best wishes.

  828. Andrea Rossi

    Georgehants:
    Thank you. I follow the Socratic lead never to be sure to know anything.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  829. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    You posted “even if the electrolysis concept was, and still is, wrong”. Can you please clarify? I know that electrolysis can be much more effective in loading nickel with hydrogen compared to using gas pressure to do the loading.

    Or are you referring to the generation of heat using electrolysis as being wrong?

  830. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    If what you say is true, we will see the consequential results. So far we did not.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  831. LMV

    Hi Andrea
    Glad to help out a few ideas
    Is the phase angle issue between the output temperature raising/falling and input waveforms being addressed in the coming report? This was mentioned in the critics paper.

  832. Andrea Rossi

    LMV:
    I have not a clue of what will be written in the report of the Third Indipendent Party.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  833. LMV

    Andrea,

    Any output from a solar panel will be DC, you will then switch-mode convert DC to AC (typical efficiency about 95-97%) then use TRIAC or other mean to cut the Sine waveform to control the power input to the Hotcat. Wouldn’t it be more efficient to directly on/off the DC current supplied to the Hotcat (MosFET or fast solid sate relay and microchip are a few ways to do that)?

  834. Andrea Rossi

    LMV:
    Nice question, to be taken in consideration for solar couplings
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  835. Pietro F.

    le auguro un felice e sereno compleanno!!

  836. Andrea Rossi

    Pietro F.:
    Thank you
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  837. Enrico Ghelardoni

    Caro Andrea,
    mi unisco ai molti che ti hanno fatto gli auguri di compleanno.
    Credo infatti che il prossimo anno, quando sarai ormai famoso nel mondo, non avrai più il tempo per leggerli e rispondere da queste pagine.

    Con profonda stima
    Enrico

  838. Andrea Rossi

    Enrico Ghelardoni:
    Thank you: I will always find the time for this useful blog from which I always learn
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  839. Samuel

    Congratulations on your birthday.
    Keep up the good work!

  840. Andrea Rossi

    Samuel:
    Thank you, really appreciated,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  841. LMV

    Hi Andrea
    If the Ecat can work with any heat source, would you one day have a Dc version of the Hotcat, that can run without conversion to Ac power?

  842. Andrea Rossi

    LMV:
    We use alternate current from the source, do not make any conversion into direct current: there is no point in it and would reduce the efficiency.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  843. Daniel De Caluwé

    Dear dr. Rossi, I forgot something in my last message, therefore this correction:
    (It has to be perfect, and therefore, if possible, you could delete my previous message and change it by this one):

    Dear dr. Rossi,

    Inspired by the words of Patrick Ellul in his recent message, I write this:

    After 64 laps around the sun, and 25 laps after the first anouncement of “a sustained nuclear fusion reaction” by Fleischmann and Pons, I wish you many more laps around the sun, and especially a lot of success and a great breakthrough, and the recognition for all your very hard work, in this your 65th lap, that started today.

    And because of this special occasion, I wish to dedicate a song from Bob Dylan to you:

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xs13ou_bob-dylan-forever-young_music

    or

    http://vimeo.com/39546541

    And the beautifull text you can find here:

    http://www.bobdylan.com/us/songs/forever-young

    Congratualtions!

  844. Andrea Rossi

    Daniel De Caluwé:
    I like Bob Dylan, thank you very much,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  845. Fabio82

    Auguroni!!

  846. Andrea Rossi

    Fabio 82:
    Thank you!
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  847. Giovanni Guerrini

    Carissimo Andrea,

    queste pagine sono divenute un luogo virtuale in cui amici si ritrovano scambiando idee e sentimenti nel rispetto reciproco,accomunati dallo spirito del gruppo teso ad uno scopo più grande di noi.
    Questo è un altro grande regalo che Lei ci ha fatto.
    Noi conosciamo il Suo volto,mentre per Lei,giocoforza,siamo nomi senza immagine.
    Eravamo nomi e pensieri,ma in questi anni sono certo che per Lei siamo divenuti,seppur ancora dal viso anonimo,cuori che battono all’unisono a sostenerLa nei momenti bui ed a gioire insieme dei successi.
    Così,da questo luogo,Le porgo i miei più cari auguri di un felice compleanno.

    Con affetto e stima Giovanni

  848. Andrea Rossi

    Giovanni Guerrini:
    Thank you very much also for your consideration regarding this blog: I agree.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  849. Daniel De Caluwé

    Dear dr. Rossi,

    A little bit inspired by the words of Patrick Ellul in his recent message, I write this:

    After 64 laps around the sun, and 25 laps after the first anouncement of “a sustained nuclear fusion reaction” by Fleischmann and Pons, I wish you many more laps around the sun, and especially a lot of succes and a great breakthrough (and the recognition for all your very hard work), in this your 65th lap, that started today.

    Congratualtions!

  850. Patrick Ellul

    Caro Dr. Rossi. E’ l’ininzio del suo 65o giro intorno al sole…. che bello. Tanti auguri.

    Dear Dr. Rossi. This is the beginning of your 65th lap around the Sun… How beautiful. Best wishes.

  851. Andrea Rossi

    Patrick Ellul:
    Very nice definition of birthday!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  852. Herb Gillis

    Dr. Rossi:
    Best wishes on your birthday.
    I’m curious if in your research you have encountered any old reports of strange heat phenomena that might have been caused by unrecognized LENR effects. Things like unexpected heat releases or explosions (ie. before 1989).
    Kind Regards; HRG.

  853. Andrea Rossi

    Herb Gillis:
    Thank you, I really appreciate your kind wishes.
    About your question: no, I did not. What inspired me to begin, to be honest and sincere, has been the work of Prof Fleishmann and Prof Pons when it has been announced the first time. This is a merit they deserve, even if the electrolysis concept was, and still is, wrong. The electrolysis brings nowhere. Obviously, this is only my opinion and, as such, can be wrong.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  854. Patrick Ellul

    Caro Dr. Rossi. E’ l’ininzio del suo 65o giro intorno al sole…. che bello. Tanti auguri.

    Dear Dr. Rossi. This is the beginning of your 65th lap around Sol… How beautiful. Best wishes.

  855. Todd Burkett

    Happy Birthday!

  856. Andrea Rossi

    Todd Burkett:
    Thank you, really appreciated,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  857. Gherardo

    Quite late but still in time!
    Buon Compleanno Dott.Rossi :-)

  858. Andrea Rossi

    Gherardo:
    In the USA it is not late, it is right.
    Thank you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  859. Koen Vandewalle

    Andrea,
    Happy Birthday
    Koen

  860. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    Thank you!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  861. Gianluca

    Buon giorno Andrea.
    Buon compleanno.
    E’ vero che dopo una certa età sarebbe meglio non ricordare a nessuno
    un altro anno trascorso ma, nel suo caso, un altro anno presente nel panorama LENR
    (senza essere stato distrutto da Lobby e malaffare) significa molto per Lei stesso e per
    noi che ci crediamo sin dai primi giorni.
    Ancora tanti auguri dall’Italia.
    Gian Luca

  862. Andrea Rossi

    Gianluca:
    Thank you very much for your kind wishes!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  863. Martin

    Dear Andrea,

    I thought about your age and the hard work you have to do every day!
    Not only phisical but also a heavy menthal task. I know you like your work but
    Think it is important also to enjoy life. Is it possible for you to enjoy life or retire if you
    Want to? I hope your answer Will be yes. If so you’re welcome to visit my home in Holland I promise you Will have à good time!

    I wish you a lot of succes!

    Early follower Martin

  864. Andrea Rossi

    Martin:
    Thank you for your delighting invitation, I wish I could! I am working 14 hours per day…it is hard, also because I have also to lose a lot of time to defend myself for issues that have nothing to do with my work. My life is at a no return point, I can’t break, I can’t change, I can’t retire.
    But you have been delicious, God bless you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  865. KeithT

    Dear Andrea,

    Are you aware of the EU framework programme Horizon 2020, this has a fund of 80 billion Euro’s over 7 year, this fund is targeted at new research, innovation and technology within Europe.

    The funding can potentially cover up to 100% of the research and technology development costs that lead up to a new product, including any design and development work of production equipment for a new factory, (but not the building costs), the more partners; design house, chemical equipment, instrumentation suppliers, that are involved from different EU countries the easier it is to obtain funding.

    Perhaps you and your partners could consider a manufacturing site within Europe as well as the USA.

    Keith Thomson

  866. Andrea Rossi

    Keith T.:
    Thank you for the information,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  867. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    I think you will find this interesting. The Swedish professors who did the E-Cat test last year have issued a statement. This is an English translation:

    http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/06/03/swedish-e-cat-testers-issue-statement/

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  868. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Thank you, interesting,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  869. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Sometimes massive success leads to massive failure. If eCat technology takes off and is in heavy demand, there will be the issue of mass production of both the eCat technology, (reactors and associated parts) and also the fuel (nickel, catalyst, processing and the hydrogen source material). Can you enlighten us on the problems of upscaling to meet demand and the actions taken to mitigate the problem(s)? I am not looking for proprietary information, only how you foresee addressing a rapid change in demand.

  870. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Our industrialization issues are dealt with from the proper persons.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  871. Daniel De Caluwé

    Dear dr. Fine,

    Our respiration (inhaling of air and exhaling of CO2) is, what climate scientists call ‘CO2-neutral’, because the carbon we exhale, is coming from our food we took from the biosphere, so by exhaling it, we give back (to the biosphere) what we took via our food.

    But compared to this and to the contrary, the burning of fossil fuels, is NOT CO2-neutral, because in that case, we take carbon from the underground, that didn’t take part anymore in the exchange in the biosphere for millions of years, and by burning these fossil fuels, we bring that ancient carbon back in the biosphere, so this is NOT CO2-neutral anymore… (And by bringing in that carbon from outside the biosphere, and burning it, there is a corresponging reduction (!) of the oxygen level in the atmosphere… ;-)

  872. Daniel De Caluwé

    @Peter Forsberg,

    It is true that plant growth increases with increasing CO2 concentration, but the sees and the oceans, that were responsible for most of the uptake in the eighties and nineties, are becoming much more acidic by it, (which also changes the sea-life/algae and their influence on fish), and tend to reduce their uptake, that was bigger in the eighties than in the nineties, and on land there was a strong opposite influence because of deforestation. (See Table 2)

    So yes, there was and is a considerable uptake (in the nineteens about half of the emissions was absorbed, but mainly by the oceans and the sees (that unfortunately became more acidic, with consequences on sea-life (algae) and fish stocks), but which tend to uptake less in the future (!), and the projected increase of CO2-uptake on land will far from neutralise the manmade emissions, and the uptake could very well decline over time, or turn into a source of net emissions, because there also is a real risk of
    large-scale carbon release from forests (once existing forests – given the foreseen climate changes – will suddenly find themselves outside their proper climatic ranges), and more generally from the accelerated turnover of dead biomass caused by
    increasing temperatures…

    See also (I admit, old links, but given as an illustration) :

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/planting-trees-wont-save/

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/debit-or-credit/

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientists-reassess-carbo/

    http://www.nature.com/news/1998/030721/full/news030721-6.html

    http://www.nature.com/news/1998/000420/full/news000420-12.html

    But if you insist, I prefer to agree to disagree… ;-)

  873. alutam

    Andrea,
    Do you know if Industrial Heat is producing and warehousing E-Cats in anticipation of huge sales volume?
    Best Regards.

  874. Andrea Rossi

    Alutam:
    Information regarding the industrialization of the E-Cat by Industrial Heat will be given in due time by the press guys. No specific information can be given now.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  875. Joseph Fine

    Peter Forsberg:

    I meant that we all exhale CO2. We would not be healthy reducing our intake of Oxygen by 30%, nor very happy walking around with CO2 scrubbing devices around our heads. Also, this does not discuss production of Methane (another Greenhouse gas) by people and animals. But many politicians know more about this.

    Joseph Fine

  876. Daniel De Caluwé

    Dear dr. Rossi and Peter Forsberg,

    About the strong influence of human activities in climate change, of which I am very much convinced, we better agree to disagree, because otherwise I could spend the rest of my life in these never ending discussions, but a few years ago I decided to stop with it and go further with more usefull things. ;-) So you’re on the good side, dr. Rossi, because by inventing and developping further your E-cat, you contribute to find a solution (for many problems, of course not only to reduce human influence in climate change), and that’s much better than spending ones time in endless discussions, like I did a few years ago… ;-)

  877. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    The US Environmental Protection Agency just issued new rules about reducing carbon emissions from power plants. States are required to cut carbon emissions by 30 per cent overall by 2030 (from a 2005 baseline) It would seem that the most adverse effects would be on coal power plants which produce the highest levels of carbon dioxide.

    This rule may make the E-Cat an even more attractive means of power production, and could help boost business for Industrial Heat.

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  878. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    This can be useful.
    Thank you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  879. Peter Forsberg

    Dear Jospeh Fine,

    You said: “Presumably, we will still be allowed to breathe Oxygen.”

    I’m not so sure. In Sweden we pay carbon taxes for more and more activites. And unfortunately most voters and politicians would not understand what you mean by your statement. They do not know that most of a plants mass is created via CO2. In all the new speak that has followed the EPA regulation CO2 is now referred to as carbon pollution. This is a deception. CO2 is not a pollutant. It is the stuff of life. More CO2 will equal more life. The global warming theory is a runaway train, I think, and we are waiting for the crash. The ECat could indeed be a saviour, since it would allow politicians to save face.

    Regards

    Peter

  880. Andrea Rossi

    Peter Forsberg:
    I too am all but sure about the global warming theory. Earth had cycles of desertification ( the Sahara desert was an immense forest) and of glaciation, due to phenomena in great part unknown. I think in good part it is matter of business, like the “millennium bug” conundrum, remember? Nevertheless, it is not bad its propelling of more attention against pollution issues, whose real danger is more the health of people around pollution sources, than the so called global warming. I know, this opinion is not politically correct, but it is my opinion. Obviously, can be wrong.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    p.s. Thank you to be still here…

  881. Andrea,

    Running for office……. Let’s say it was a learning experience.

    Now that you don’t have to worry about being part of my staff, you can get back to work on your project. :-) .

    I’m looking forward for the time when your e-cats give us all an added measure of independence from silly governments.

    All the best.

    Charlie

  882. Andrea Rossi

    Charlie Sutherland:
    I belong to the staff of my Team: that’s more than enough…good luck to you for your next race.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  883. Dear Andrew,
    many greetings Happy Birthday, I wish you a thousand surprises to find what you’re looking for and to achieve your dreams that have now become even our!
    We hope you gift a preview of the positive results of the third party. Andrea strength not to give up!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NIPDOdp71Q
    They will use your Hot Cat in Alaska!

  884. Andrea Rossi

    Ing. Michelangelo De Meo:
    Thank you.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  885. Antonella Basilico

    Carissimo Andrea, sono contenta di vederti lavorare serenamente, e ti auguro che questo prossimo giro intorno al Sole ti porti infine a coronare il tuo sogno, a inviare i tuoi Gatti per il mondo.
    Buon compleanno, che tu sia benedetto.
    Anto

  886. Andrea Rossi

    Antonella Basilico:
    Thank you,
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  887. Joseph Fine

    Robert Curto:

    You are right. The EPA’s CO2 emission rule is for a 25% reduction by 2020 and a 30% reduction by 2030. I stand corrected.

    By then, that may only apply to people who want to burn wood at campfires. Presumably, we will still be allowed to breathe Oxygen. ;)

    Thank you,

    Joseph Fine

  888. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    We are now in June, and you mentioned a while ago that you had been told that the report may be published in the 2nd or 3rd week of June. I understand you are not in control of the publication date, but to the best of your knowledge are you still expecting this June publication schedule?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  889. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    The timing of the publication are totally out of my control. The results will be extremely important, positive or negative as they might be. Please do not ask me anymore the scheduling of a thing that is totally indipendent from me and completely out of my control. Please be patient.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  890. Robert Curto

    Dr. Joseph Fine, I am sure it is just a typo.
    By the year 2030, not 2020.
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA

  891. Andrea,
    In mercatu veritas, ma in verbo deridas!
    (Sorry if wrong: I don’t know Latin, only google)
    r:/pekka

  892. Andrea Rossi

    Pekka Janhunen:
    Non verba volumus, sed facta!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  893. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Redeemed,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  894. Andreas Moraitis

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Just don’t care about the allegations made by certain persons. As you have indicated, these allegations are like boomerangs which will, after they have failed their target, return to those who have thrown them. Perhaps you know the old (possibly Chinese) proverb:

    “If you sit by the river long enough, you will see the body of your enemy float by.”

    (“Sit by the river” could be interpreted as “follow your path”.)

    Best regards,
    Andreas Moraitis

  895. Andrea Rossi

    Andreas Moraitis:
    I agree, thank you and about the Chinese sayings let me cite the one I use with my friend Enrico Billi, a paradigmatic example of the solution against the clowns:
    “lavolale, lavolale”
    ( I am not sure it’s correct Chinese, though)
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  896. Joseph Fine

    AR,

    I have to redeem myself.

    If the reduction of CO2 is 0 tons and the original amount of released CO2 was 0 tons, then the percentage reduction is (amount of reduction)/(original amount)*100. Since both of these quantities are 0, the ratio 0/0 is undefined. So you may still run afoul of the EPA because you will only have an undefined percentage of reduction, not 1%, 10% or 500%. Just an undefined percent. :D

    Joseph Fine

  897. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    You are right, it is not false, but within the limits of application of our technology. As I always said, most technologies will have to be integrated.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  898. orsobubu

    This is the correct link for the translation of the page:

    http://tinyurl.com/otsfg2w

  899. Andrea Rossi

    Orsobubu:
    The more stupidities our enemies say, the more naked they will be turned when the market will confirm the operation of out plants. Until it turns to talk and to bla-bla without working they are the unbeatable world Champions, also because people that really works ( like me) has not the time and space to fight their chatters. In the world of chatters you can also say that Jesus Christ did walk upon the sea because he was so dumb not to be able to swim aging 33 years and you surely will find some imbecile that follows: the mother of imbeciles is always pregnant.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  900. Joseph Fine

    Dear Andrea,

    The US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has proposed cutting power plant Carbon Dioxide emissions by 30% by the year 2020.

    Since your plants already produce zero Carbon Dioxide*, is it false advertising to say your plants could reduce CO2 exhaust not by 30%, but by 3000% or 300,000% since any percent of 0 is 0?

    * (The CO2 dissolved in water will be released when you boil it. )

    Joseph Fine

  901. orsobubu

    About the motto “In mercatu veritas” that you’re going to write on the 1MW plant, it will be a nice revenge against your detractors. I refer to the fact that, in the same years in which the events narrated in your site http://www.ingandrearossi.com took place, some of them became part of the staff of one of the most antimarket, anti-American, anti-Atlanticist etc radio networks ever seen in Italy and in Europe. Ironically, they led just programs dedicated to scientific divulgation (The “Cyclotron”)!!. Apparently, mattered little to them that, in the same years and from the same radio frequencies, departed conductors’ and listeners’ choirs praising the death of the space shuttle Challenger seven astronauts; mattered little to them that for years the radio had supported radical positions in favor of the Soviet Union regime, giving voice even to the claims and rivendications of “revolutionary” terrorist groups, as it is beautifully remembered at the bottom of this page:

    http://www.enzopennetta.it/2013/08/la-macchina-del-fango-il-caso-coyaud/

    translation:

    http://tinyurl.com/nk56j8y

    Now, as usual in Italy, these petty-bourgeois intellectuals, who have done everything wrong in their interpretation of scientific materialism, are at the service of the most powerful capitalist groups and industrial private organizations, in the same manner in which thirty or forty years ago they were the servants of the Russian and Chinese state capitalism. I understand that you have to stay focused on your goal, but you’ll be interested to know that – as you can read in the previuos link – you’re certainly not the only one to be the target of their attacks; in that site, there is the reply of Enzo Pennetta, a teacher of natural sciences in a Catholic school that always placed himself in a critical way against reductionist neo-Darwinism official science, without denying the theory of evolution or support creationism.

    I am attaching some links on his website where the prof. gives news on e-cat:

    http://www.enzopennetta.it/2011/10/la-fisica-italiana-sospesa-o-stelle-o-stalle/

    http://www.enzopennetta.it/2011/08/l%E2%80%99-e-cat-e-il-metodo-scientifico/

    and where he expose some ideas that I think will interest you on the subject of the criticism to Darwinism:

    http://www.enzopennetta.it/2013/02/cronaca-di-una-conferenza-su-creazionismo-ed-evoluzione-tra-i-noma-e-lelefante-nella-stanza/

    http://www.enzopennetta.it/2012/09/verso-una-nuova-teoria-dellevoluzione/

  902. Mark Saker

    Dear Andrea,

    I (and most probably the rest of us) am getting excited now for hopefully a double reveal within the next month. 1st – A positive report, and 2nd – a working 1MW plant.

    As you are working on the plant, I wonder if you can tell me just two things. 1. Does the 1MW plant look like the old 1MW plant – in a shipping container with a 100 small cats, or
    2. will this be an commercially ready, new 1MW hot cat with smaller dimensions?
    3. Will it be providing just heat, or heat and electricity?

    Many Thanks

    I am so looking forward to you finally getting the recognition you deserve!

    Mark

  903. Andrea Rossi

    Mark Saker:
    I agree,but:
    1- the timing of the reviewing of the report does not depend on me
    2- the ting for the public presentation of the 1 MW plant working in the factory of our Customer has not yet be defined, but I can say it will be in a range, we suppose, of several months, not weeks
    3- any information regarding the technological data will be delivered at the presentation.
    Warm Regards
    A.R. – In mercatu veritas

  904. Dave K.

    IN MERCATU VERITAS! Salute!

  905. Andrea Rossi

    Dave K.:
    Yes, In mercatu veritas.
    Andrea Rossi

  906. Andrea Rossi

    Errata corrige:
    I made a typo:
    The motto ” In mercato veritas” must be corrected as follows:
    ” In mercatu veritas”: mercatus is of the fourth declination…
    Warm regards to all
    A.R.

  907. Joseph j

    Dear Andrea

    I think you are going to end up in a book like this.

    The Rise
    Creativity, the Gift of Failure, and the Search for Mastery:

    http://books.simonandschuster.com/Rise/Sarah-Lewis/9781451629255

  908. Andrea Rossi

    Joseph J:
    Thank you,
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  909. Wladimir Guglinski

    Dear Andrea

    If the results of third independent party and of the R&D in course will be positive, do you think will the positive result contribute and accelerate the process of getting the patent , and to put the eCat in the market ?

    regards
    wlad

  910. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    I would say that we have to put a distinction between market and science. Both, anyway, could give positive or negative results, and we will give information of both, along their indipendent paths, when we will consider consolidated the results ( for the industrial plants) and when we will have a reviewed- published report ( for the Third Indipendent Party test). Both are on their way. I am focused on the one that depends on me: the 1 MW plant ( on the front of it I want written the motto “In mercato veritas”).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  911. Italo R.

    Dear Dr. Rossi, this is the greatest news I have heard recently:

    “…Now we pass from the testing era to the market era with the 1 MW plants in continuous industrial operation….”

    It means that there is a running plant somewhere (where?) from some time (how much time?) and it is fully satisfactory (is it true?)

    Now if you could tell us some more informations…

    Kind Regards,
    Italo R.

  912. Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.:
    I am focused on the 1 MW plant, as I said. Only the market will put an end to all the useless chattering around and will vindicate the value of our work, making groundless the accusations based on my past ( see http://www.ingandrearossi.com). My enemies can libel me, can write and broadcast falsities and accusations regarding facts of my life of 20 years ( twenty years !!!) ago, not related to my work on the LENR, but useful to try to discredit my person, can blackmail me, can do this and other, but one thing they will never able to do: stop the plants that are working with my technology. I have to answer with facts, not words.
    The particulars of the plant in operation in the USA will be given to the visitors when we will be able to allow visits to next Customers and allowed persons and will be published in due time.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  913. Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Thank you, I really appreciate.
    I am keeping my work as focused as never before. Now we pass from the testing era to the market era with the 1 MW plants in continuous industrial operation. IN MERCATO VERITAS.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  914. Joseph Fine

    Dear Andrea,

    Best (early) wishes for a very happy Birthday.

    Keep on keeping on and keep up the good work!

    Positive regards,

    Joseph Fine

  915. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    You mention working on the 1 MW Plant — is this the low temperature, or hot cat plant?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  916. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    We will give all the due particulars of this industrial application in the USA when we will open the visits to the plant in operation.
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  917. Dear Andrea, what do you think of this future based on LERN? see the video.
    strength Rossiii
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fNXz6qMUeg

  918. Andrea Rossi

    Ing. Michelangelo De Meo:
    Thank you. Now, waiting for the results of the TIP, we are working very, very hard on the 1 MW plant. All what is happening around makes me extremely focused on it. In mercato veritas.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  919. eernie1

    Dear Andrea,
    Since we are in a holding pattern and have free time awaiting the results of the TPR, I would like to offer some reasons for my insistence that electron capture must be involved in at least a few mechanisms in LENR(not necessarily your effect). We know that in naturally occurring LENR(radioactivity) the most prevalent process involves either electron or positron emission in which many are triggered by electron capture. These processes produce energies which can be used for many purposes. Also we know that no stable atoms above Uranium are detected in nature. One reason for this is that when enough protons are present in a nucleus the positive fields attract the orbital electrons into the nucleus causing enough instabilities to cause decay to occur. When radioactive atoms are fully ionized their half lives are extended because of the absence of orbiting electrons. All these effects have been documented by experimental evidence.
    As atoms increase in proton number the inner electrons draw closer to the nucleus and in some cases pre Uranium atoms can under go electron capture spontaneously with emission of B- and B+ neutrinos and gammas of reduced energy. It is not difficult for me to envision a system where large external negative fields can be imposed on surrounding electron clouds to cause inner electrons to penetrate even stable isotopes of higher atomic number species such as the transition elements which possess volatile electron movements within their clouds. If there is an isomer present the penetrating electron can stimulate the excited nucleons further causing energy emissions. The number of possibilities for such configurations to be allowed can be large since the number of combinations of particles are enormous. This method seems to me to be much easier to attain than trying to force a proton into the nucleus or to create a neutron by combining an electron with a proton outside of the nucleus.
    Hopefully the TPR will be published before I can impose some other odd scenarios upon your readers.
    Good luck although I don’t think you need it to have a positive result.

  920. Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Thank you for your insight.
    As you know, I cannot disclose any particular related to what happens inside the reactor.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  921. silvio caggia

    Dear Steven N. Karels,
    Hands off “my” onion-cat! :-D

  922. Andrea Rossi

    Silvio Caggia:
    That’ s pre- divulgation!
    Warm regards
    AR

  923. DTravchenko

    Dear Andrea:
    1- will you be open to further peer reviewing after the publication of the report?
    2- will you be able to share your work and the work of your team with us, to make us better understand how an E-Cat is born?
    3- we have links to disclose who is paying for the attack made against you.
    From Russia, with love,
    D.T.

  924. Andrea Rossi

    D. Travchenko:

    1- All scientific research and testing is only improved by having serious challengers, this is a normal part of the peer review process. I welcome those who are interested in science to come forward and volunteer their views, but objectively evaluate the theories and follow the facts as they are presented. Well- articulated debate is essential to further science and R&D efforts.
    2- I will continue to share my efforts to share the work I am doing and to make it as widely available as possible, but only at the appropriate time. Until then, I am not able to respond to those I have not worked with or those who are not directly involved in my research.
    3- I repeat: I am committed to my work for the development of the E-Cat and this must remain my focus. My sole focus.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  925. Curiosone

    Can you give more information about the corrupted persons that have , as you say, devastated your life 20 years ago and that could be behind this attack ?
    W.G.

  926. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    I am committed to my research and the development of the E-Cat. This is my highest priority and it must remain my focus.
    I am not going to talk anymore about that thing.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  927. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    You referred to the “Mouse and Cat” design for eCat control. The Mouse provides stability, runs part of the time with a relatively low effective COP. The Cat provides the large amount of output power and spends portions of its time in a self-sustaining mode. Surely you must have considered a “Mouse, Cat and Tiger” configuration. Where the Cat controls the Tiger.

    1. Can you address this possible configuration?
    2. Would stability be an issue?
    3. Could not the “Mouse and Cat” subsystem be considered a “Big Mouse” to the Big Cat (Tiger)?

  928. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    1- I cannot give this information until the product is on the market
    2- see point 1
    3- would a man with 5 balls be considered a pin-ball?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  929. Bernie Koppenhofer

    Dr Rossi: I am impressed by how positive you stay after the personal unscientific attacks by a “scientific” program. The editor of the program should be ashamed. Keep up your good very important t work. In this program it was said the tests were not being done in Sweden, can you confirm?

  930. Andrea Rossi

    Bernie Koppenhofer:
    I have too much work to do to save enough of it for defending myself from a well organized libelling, made by direct and indirect competitors. I have nothing to add to what has been written on
    http://www.ingandrearossi.com
    I underline, confirm and repeat every single word of that site. The mafious system, based on corruption, that destroyed my work 20 years ago, is now terrorized that my incoming work could , if successful, put in evidence what they made 20 years ago.
    The falsities I have been reported of, regarding this pseudo- scientific broadcasting, speak for themselves ; every honest, sincere and intelligent person can understand perfectly what is behind those attacks, unleashed right before the publication of a neutral experiment whose results, positive or negative as they might be, will be anyway important.
    The experiment of the Third Indipendent Party has been made in a neutral place, not in the USA, not in Italy. I am not allowed to give any further information before the publication: obviously the precise location will be described in the report.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  931. GParenti

    Dr Andrea:
    We all understood that the attack against your person we saw in the last days has been a clownesque attempt to discredit your work using insults and using your vicissitudes of 20 years ago instead of a clean and honest scientific criticism; we all understood that this all was a frame up paid by your competitors. Nobody has been so stupid to take seriously this shameful frame up. Will you answer to their “arguments”?
    G. Parenti

  932. Andrea Rossi

    G. Parenti:
    No. There are no scientific bases to open a discussion. About the events that devastated my life 20 years ago, I confirm what is described in
    http://www.ingandrearossi.com
    I am making a very hard work, we are working for the diffusion of our plants, we are waiting for a dramatically important report regarding a long run test and I want not to be distracted from my work by things that will have no importance at all, either if the results of our work will be positive or if will be negative, as they might be.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  933. Ravedoni Carlo

    Signor Rossi buongiorno,
    Volevo segnalarLe (nel caso non ne fosse al corrente) un dispositivo inventato da un francese, Dumas appunto.

    Ecco qui il suo sito internet : http://leblogdejc.com/effetdumas/?page_id=165 (in English)
    http://leblogdejc.com/effetdumas (in francese).

    Si tratta di una palla in acciaio coperta da una semi sfera a una distanza di circa 1,6 mm. Alimentata da corrente che genera un sur più’ di potenza del 16 %.

    Su suo sito ci sono tutti gli appunti, e i piani per la fabbricazione del dispositivo, che Dumas mette a disposizione di tutti. Lo scopo del sig. Dumas è che chiunque si ritiene capace di sviluppare la sua invenzione, sia libero di farlo, a condizione che questo sviluppo ulteriore sia messo a disposizione di tutti. Non impedisce comunque la commercializzazione degli sviluppi futuri.

    Non so cosa se ne puo’ fare lei di questo dispositivo. Volevo solamente attirare la sua attenzione su cosa succede nel mondo.

    Approfitto dell’occasione per ringraziarla per il lavoro che sta svolgendo, e attendo con impazienza i risultati del test, che spero siano positivi.

    Ravedoni Carlo

  934. Andrea Rossi

    Ravedoni Carlo:
    It violates the first and second thermodynamic principle.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  935. Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi, snow is removed from most roads, when a snow plow pushes it
    to the side of the road.
    On a city street you cannot do that, you cannot push the snow on top of
    the sidewalk.
    The snow is scooped up by a Front End Loader, loaded into a Truck and
    transported to a dump site, could be a river, or a large area.
    For example in Helsinki, Finland they need to remove 210,000 Truck Loads.
    I was wondering could E-Cat heat a big ‘bin’ that could be placed over a
    drain, located on every city block ?
    The Front End Loader could dump it’s load into the hot ‘bin’ and the snow would turn to water.
    You don’t have to boil the water, the ‘bin’ just has to be hot enough to melt
    the snow to water.
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA

  936. Andrea Rossi

    Robert Curto:
    Thanks,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  937. Alessandro

    Dear Mr Rossi,
    now it’s been a long time since of the beginning of the indipendent tests, have you any news from that? the fact that all is not yet clear about your discovery could continue to be a problem?
    thanks a lot for your job!
    in bocca al lupo
    Best Regards
    Alessandro

  938. Andrea Rossi

    Alessandro:
    I have no news at all regarding the third party indipendent test. I am not able to say anything about all the issue. Just wait, with patience.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  939. LMV

    Hi Andrea,

    Vietnamese government has delayed their plan to build 14 nuclear power stations. Maybe they are aware of your Hotcat development.

  940. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Have you considered continuous asphalt plants as an application for eCat technology? According to Wikipedia, they produce 500 Tonnes per hour of hot asphalt. Being a continuous constant load seems well suited for eCat technology. Typical asphalt temperatures are around the 200C region and are usually stored in Hot Storage before being shipped out. Conceptually, delivery truck could also be equipped with eCat units to maintain the asphalt temperature. Currently, maintaining temperature limits the distance deliveries can be made.

  941. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Good idea.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  942. Andrea Rossi

    To our wonderful Readers:
    Congratulations and thank you for your intelligence. Useless to say to what I refer. You reaction gives evidence of the difference between intelligent people and clowns.
    God bless you all,
    Andrea Rossi

  943. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in May 27th, 2014 at 1:31 PM

    1) ——————————
    Concerning your question, my view is the following:
    Math does not create physics.
    Physics does not create math.
    But when devising a new approach, both have to be kept in mind. That is why I stated in my post to Magnus Holm that I used logical forms as a starting point. It is important to remember that logic is the foundation of our understanding of both math and physics. When working with logic, all the nonsense (“phantasmagoria”) is swept away. What remains is scientific truth.
    —————————————–

    COMMENT

    Yes, as the own Galileo had emphasized: the science cannot be divorced to the logic.

    2) ——————————–
    Do not worry, Wladimir. The physical elegance that you demand of a theory exists in my work. It is not as evident as in Quantum Ring Theory. But even you said that scientists would have to apply differential equations to your model in order that your model be complete. And differential equations can sometimes cloud the obvious physicality of a model.
    ——————————————-

    COMMENT

    I understand.
    Even because a correct mathematic approach can help the discovery of the true physical model, and to test it.

    regards
    wlad

  944. Gherardo

    Dott.Rossi,
    looking backward to the beginning, but with the understanding of the following researches, to you think the very first e-cat was more a serendipity success out of a methodological work or the due result of hard work?
    To explain better my question, I do remember that the solution came out of some instinct but also many trials. Were you lucky and got early results or had to go through all planned possibilities?
    Gherardo

  945. Andrea Rossi

    Gherardo:
    Both. Without the help of God I could do nothing anyway.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  946. Dear Andrea, if the tests are positive (I hope so!) and the hot Cat works, will be immediately sold and marketed?
    To what extent is the industrialization?
    when do you think we will see the first Hot Cat in Italy?
    is ready for the commercial network?
    thanks

  947. Andrea Rossi

    Ing. Michelangelo De Meo:
    I do not deal with commercial issues.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  948. orsobubu

    Andrea, just a curiosity. I was lurking for the previous announcement
    about the first third-party-report, published in JONP on may 19, 2013.
    I noted that some readers were faster then you on the news:
    ——
    Enrico Billi
    May 19th, 2013 at 11:27 PM

    Third party report published! I cross the fingers for you Andrea Rossi!

    http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1305/1305.3913.pdf
    ——
    Italo R.
    May 20th, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    Finally, the REPORT!!
    It is GREAT!!

    http://ecat.com/files/Indication-of-anomalous-heat-energy-production-in-a-reactor-device.pdf
    ——
    Todd Burkett
    May 20th, 2013 at 12:26 AM

    Congratulations !
    On the 3rd party report!
    Are you pleased?
    ——
    Andrea Rossi
    May 20th, 2013 at 1:25 AM

    Dear Todd Burkett:
    IThank you. This is one of the most important days of my life.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    ——
    The anticipation appeared buried deep inside the article “Electrical catalyst” by
    Tadej Bajda on May 11th, 2013, counting the record number of 834 comments.
    Do you plan to make the announcement yourself, this time?

    As always, beware, dear readers: I think Andrea Rossi will publish a brand new dedicated hystorical article if the report will be positive
    but it will appear again lost in the middle of another old article if it will be negative.

  949. Andrea Rossi

    Orsobubu:
    He,he,he…
    Do not worry: I will give information on this blog as soon as I will have notice of the publication, whatever the results. To hide a negative resultmixing it in the middle of minor things would be like to hidden an elephant behind a strawberry.
    Maybe somebody will get information about the publication before me, as it happened in past: I am not privileged, I will read the publication and will give information about it and I am in the USA, therefore in China they will read the publication 15 hours ahead of me. This is why I have been anticipated.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  950. Joe

    Wladimir,

    I thank you for reading my paper.

    Concerning your question, my view is the following:
    Math does not create physics.
    Physics does not create math.
    But when devising a new approach, both have to be kept in mind. That is why I stated in my post to Magnus Holm that I used logical forms as a starting point. It is important to remember that logic is the foundation of our understanding of both math and physics. When working with logic, all the nonsense (“phantasmagoria”) is swept away. What remains is scientific truth. And physics as it stands today has a lot of nonsense. In fact, that is in part what got me started. I did not create anything new here, I just cleaned up what was already there. In part, I used old approaches such as “form versus substance” and “static versus dynamic”. I ended up with two conceptual forms that I combined in a novel (but still logical) way. The result is an equation of which the function that you see in my paper is only a small part. And since that function seems to be viable as a descriptor of fermion masses, it would mean that the rest of my equation would be valid in describing other physical phenomena.

    So what are these two conceptual forms that I used?
    As I have already stated in my post to Magnus Holm, I will save that for another time if and when the scientific community will be interested in my work. Suffice it to say that both conceptual forms are very well attested in history as math tools in describing physical reality. They are still used today. One form exists in both classical and modern physics, as well as in engineering. And the other form exists as a very practical tool in navigation.

    Do not worry, Wladimir. The physical elegance that you demand of a theory exists in my work. It is not as evident as in Quantum Ring Theory. But even you said that scientists would have to apply differential equations to your model in order that your model be complete. And differential equations can sometimes cloud the obvious physicality of a model.

    All the best,
    Joe

  951. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in May 25th, 2014 at 10:31 PM

    Magnus Holm,

    I thank for responding to my question.

    It is true that particular masses of the Standard Model are a great mystery.

    Magnus Holm, I humbly provide to you for your examination and judgment, if you are so inclined, a paper that I wrote and just uploaded to the Internet a few days ago that solves the mystery of fermion masses.

    My paper (abridged version):
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_rhNc9hA61_TEtWOGhRNEljQ0k/edit?usp=sharing
    ——————————————

    Dear Joe,
    I read your article, but even if your theory is correct, and it describes mathematically the fermion masses, however a fundamental question remains:

    what are the physical mechanisms underlying the mathematical description?

    Is the matter only a manifestation of mathematical equations with no physical reality ?

    Is the phantasmagoric scientific method proposed by Heisenberg the final answer for the puzzles of the physical reality existing in the Universe?

    regards
    wlad

  952. Fabio82

    Dear Andrea, do you have any idea about the time between the publication of the third independent party report and the beginning of mass production and the e cat commercialisation?
    Warm regards
    Fabio

  953. Andrea Rossi

    Fabio82:
    I have not idea of the date of the publication, because it does not depend on me. The domestic E-Cat productionis not possible without a safety certification.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  954. Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi and Readers, Google:
    OTEC
    Scroll down and click on:
    World’s largest OTEC power plant planned for China
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA

  955. Andrea Rossi

    Robert Curto:
    Thank you.
    You did not send the link, but we can also Google.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  956. Koen Vandewalle

    Andrea,
    A Gas-Cat, is that
    1. An E-cat device that is heated by burning some kind of fuel.
    2. An E-Cat device using a mix of Ni-powder and a gas that flows and is repeatedly cooled and heated ?

    You are teaming up with very good scientist, apparently developing theoretical and/or numerical models.
    If I understand the theory and answers from Magnus Holm, that are very well written, it seems to be way too complex to develop a model that is usefull to enhance the E-cat beyond COP’s that make other energy sources somewhat pointless.

    In case that your answer about the Gas-Cat is “2″, then a Carnot cycle may generatie the best outcome.

    A last question, for now, that comes into my mind: does the E-Cat remain an easy to manufacture device, or has it become very complex, and eventually multi-stage ?

    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  957. Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    1- yes
    2- we do not give information in positive or negative about the reactor operation
    3- The E-Cat has never been an easy to manufacture thing, but maybe you are right: easiness is a relative concept.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  958. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    OTEC use the lower temperature of deep water versus the relatively hot water near the ocean’s surface. The surface water pressure is reduced and the colder water used to cool the hot vapors into distilled water. The eCat would generate the electrical power to pump the water and to reduce the pressure.

  959. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Interesting, we will take deeper information about this.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  960. Tom Conover

    Dear Andrea,

    On 1/20/14 Frank asked if you would also be publishing an internal report of your own internal long-term testing at some point. You replied on 1/20/14 that “Yes, it will be published after the report of the third indipendent party.”

    As we draw closer to this moment, can you comment on the timeframe that might be realistic for the publication of the internal report that many of us that are also interested in? (+/-) :-)

    Thank you so very much!

    Tom Conover

  961. Andrea Rossi

    Tom Conover:
    I do not know when the report of the hird Independent Party will be published, therefore I am not able to answer you.
    We must be patient. This report will have a strong importance, whatever the results, positive or negative as they might be.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  962. eernie1

    Dear Magnus,
    It is not surprising that many adhoc explanations are proffered for the description of physical spaces because of the complexities inherent in our limited ability to visualize multidimensional manifolds. Empirical evidence available to me suggests that I reside in a 4 dimensional Riemannian symmetry space since almost all of the visible or mental forms that I can perceive are spherical or spheroidal in three dimensional space with the other dimension time a non Abelian factor since it can only proceed in one direction(forward). When we describe particles, atoms, celestial bodies, nucleon configurations(tear drop),electron orbits and indeed the universe itself, spherical geometries are used. We also see other manifolds in a limited way in the toroidal forms of the magnetic fields of the Earth and the behavior of sun spots under the influence of its magnetic field. We also postulate the various non spherical positions of electron orbitals containing higher quantum numbers as distortions from symmetrical spheres. I feel that because of these complexities, the use of analogy in attempting to explain physical conceptions is one of the most important tools we have. When Bohr conceived his model of the atom, even though it contained a few questionable properties, it instigated the development of modern chemistry and electronic devices such as semiconductors. Perhaps a clever analogy for space forms can do the same for the next level of physical science.
    Thank you for responding to my previous blogs. These discussions bring me much pleasure.
    Regards.

  963. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    It’s fascinating that you have a big effort to combine solar with the E-Cat.

    1. Do you consider this a more efficient alternative to natural gas or grid electricity?

    2. Or is it an alternative when the above sources are not available?

    Happy Memorial Day!

  964. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    1- no, I consider it an integration that can be convenient in specific situations
    2- that maybe one of the specific situations
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  965. Joe

    Magnus Holm,

    I thank for responding to my question.

    It is true that particular masses of the Standard Model are a great mystery. From Wikipedia, in the article titled “List of unsolved problems in physics”, in the category titled “High energy physics/particle physics”, it reads,

    “Generations of matter
    Why are there three generations of quarks and leptons? Is there a theory that can explain the masses of particular quarks and leptons in particular generations from first principles (a theory of Yukawa couplings)?”

    Again in Wikipedia, in the article titled “Generation (particle physics)”, it reads,

    “It is hoped that a comprehensive understanding of the relationship between the generations of the leptons may eventually explain the ratio of masses of the fundamental particles, and shed further light on the nature of mass generally, from a quantum perspective.”

    Magnus Holm, I humbly provide to you for your examination and judgment, if you are so inclined, a paper that I wrote and just uploaded to the Internet a few days ago that solves the mystery of fermion masses. I developed a function that uniquely determines the mass ratios of charged fermions. This means nine predicted masses to almost five significant figures (off by only 2 at the fifth significant figure). (The uncharged neutrino is a slightly different matter and I did not include it for specific reasons.) I started developing this function from only logical forms in the year 2006. I did not work backwards from present data in the Standard Model. I finally applied my function to the information in the Standard Model twelve months ago and it worked. Between 2006 and 2013, I frankly had no doubt that it would work since the logic was as solid as I could imagine it to be. (I will leave the details of the logic involved for another time.) The good news is that my function ultimately confirms the standard view of the masses of the quarks that were attained by scientists.

    My paper is only one page in length (excluding the title page). It is an abridged version of a four-page paper which offers more proof. I would appreciate your opinion on it. It is very simple to understand, and the function itself can be easily graphed. (Here is the trick. Overlap three curves on the graph: one with positive q; one with negative q; and one with q = 0. The points where the positive q and negative q curves overlap is where the masses are identical (obviously) and therefore are particle-antiparticle pairs of second and third generations of any of the three families of charged fermions. The first generation of particle-antiparticle pairs is found at the unique points where all three q curves overlap.)

    My paper (abridged version):
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_rhNc9hA61_TEtWOGhRNEljQ0k/edit?usp=sharing

    All the best,
    Joe

  966. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea:

    You have mentioned recently working on using natural gas as relatively inexpensive input for the E-Cat, so it’s interesting now that you are doing R&D combining the E-Cat with solar plants — what is the reason for this vast undertaking?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  967. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    This vast undertaking comes from the necessity to see the future of the E-Cat projected in all the most convenient fields.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  968. Dear Joe,

    Particle masses is probably the biggest enigma out there. Even if it really was the Higgs Boson of the Standard Model that was detected in LHC we still have no clue on how to calculate the particle masses theoretically. This is something a fundamental theory would be able to. Having said that I also attacked the Standard Model of not being fundamental, but it is the best we have so far.

    Best regards,
    Magnus

  969. Dear eernie1,

    Thank you for your questions. Regarding M-Theory there are many interpretations, one of them is that D-Branes, those p-Branes with open ended strings attached, are multiverses and the attached strings are particles in our D3-brane universe. One should understand, though, that the extra dimensions of these theories allow for so many solutions that we can more or less create what fields we like in the 4-dimensional subspace that describes our visible universe. When it comes to choices of internal spaces it is very adhoc and one usually look at spaces that break enough supersymmetry to represent the particle families of the Standard Model and with isometry groups containing the U(1)xSU(2)xSU(3) Gauge Fields. Calabi-Yau is a good candidate for this.

    Best regards,
    Magnus

  970. Dear Giovanni Guerrini,

    You are welcome. Thank you for shown interest.

    Best regards,
    Magnus

  971. eernie1

    Dear Magnus,
    In my previous blog about possible analog descriptions, I stated that the intertwining of the membrane with the universe is difficult unless instigated by a forceable event. The events which may be capable of producing interactions include the formation of black holes, the creation of supernovae, the collapse of neutron stars and the emissions from X ray sources. All these events create great changes in their surroundings and are manifest for very long distances. Some of their properties remain unexplainable but perhaps become more clear when connected to membrane behavior.

  972. Andrea Rossi

    Bob: yes, we used them to heat our factory.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  973. Andrea Rossi

    As soon as the report will have be published, I will give on the JoNP information about where the publication will have been made.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  974. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    How will E-Cat followers find out when the report is published? If you are the first to know, will you announce it here on the JONP?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  975. Bob

    Dear Andrea Rossi

    Do you employ any e-cat devices at your workplaces for a practical use?

    If so, could you briefly describe these applications.

    Thank you.

    Bob

  976. DTravchenko

    I read your answer to Curious, who asked you what is a photon. In few lines you not just answered in a way to allow anybody to understand, but also explained very simply the context of the photons in the quantum mechanics frame, making simple what is not. You could make a very good teacher.
    Warm Regards,
    From Russia, with love
    DT

  977. Andrea Rossi

    DTravchenko:
    Thank you, but, sincerely, I consider myself much more a student than a teacher.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  978. Alessandro Coppi

    Hi Andrea, you said:” This is the last information I got three days ago.”.
    My question is: the professor while was speaking, looked serious or happy?

    regards
    Alessandro Coppi

  979. Andrea Rossi

    Alessandro Coppi:
    The Professors are always serious. The issue is serious and the consequences of their work will be serious, whatever the results, positive or negative as they might be. I understand your anxiety to know the results, imagine how can I myself be anxious…
    We must be patient, and work in the meantime.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  980. Curiosone

    Mr Rossi:
    Do you think that the discovery of the Higgs Boson will have one day practical application, as it has been with many discoveries originated by pure research ( e.g. Faraday electricity experiments, laser discovery, Curie experiments of radioactivity)?
    W.G.

  981. Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    Nice question. There is a foundamental difference between the discoveries made in the past ( like experiments with electricity, discovery of laser, etc) and the discovery of the Higgs boson: the discoveries of the past, even if made by means of pure research, with no immediate application possibilities, have been experiments made in conditions easily repeatable in an industrial system: I mean, easy to produce and use once an application could have been found for. To make in an industrialized system a laser is not an overwhelming issue, analogously to electric apparatuses and radioactivity industrial applications. To find a Higgs boson, on the contrary, has been necessary to build an “apparatus” that costed about 30 billion Euro… with a tremendous complexity also for what concerns its operation. The distance from the CERN concern and industrial applications is in the order of lightyears. For this reason I think there will not be industrial applications of the Higgs boson.Nevertheless, it has been a positive thing to make this research, for two main reasons:
    1- the indirect development of industrial technologies, of practical application, that have been born by means of this work
    2- the innate search spirit of Mankind:
    ” fatti non foste a viver come bruti,
    ma per seguir virtute e conoscenza”
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  982. LMV

    Hi Andrea,

    Are you still hopeful that the report will be released sometime in late June-14?

    I know that it does not depend on you and may be negative.

  983. Andrea Rossi

    LMV:
    So far the scheduled publication is foreseen around the second- third week of June. I confirm that I di not yet know if the results are positive or negative, because the analysis of the data is still under substantial review. This is the last information I got three days ago.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  984. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Have you considered using solar cells to improve the effective COP of the Hot eCat units? Conceptually, each eCat reactor unit would be connected with a heat exchanger where the average temperature of the heat exchanger surface would be 600C. I have not gone through the specific calculations so the added power may not be worth the effort and expense. Something to consider.

  985. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    We are making vast R&D regarding couplings with solar plants. I cannot talk about particulars, due to the necessity to avoid pre- publication of patents in course of application.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  986. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Will the new company continue to produce a Warm eCat and a Hot eCat (as well as other possible eCat variants)?

    In Guatemala, the rural Mayan people typically bath using a steam sauna facility. They burn wood to heat water into steam. They have access to limited amounts of electrical power. Will your warm eCat units, as you envision your product line, be able to supply this energy need? Their electrical energy cost is about 1.5 Q per kWhr or about $0.20USD per kWhr. This would decrease the carbon footprint, be more convenient than buying and transporting wood, decrease de-forestation, and, if the effective COP were high enough, be more economical for them.

  987. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Yes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  988. Joe

    Wladimir,

    Page 8, first paragraph.

    All the best,
    Joe

  989. Wladimir Guglinski

    oe wrote in May 23rd, 2014 at 1:28 PM

    Wladimir,

    In the paper Dark Matter Studies Entrain Nuclear Physics offered by Magnus Holm, it states,

    “There are some problems, the 3Li7 and 3Li6 yields, for example; and these discrepancies have been argued to be signals of new physics
    ———————————

    Joe,
    I found the page.
    There are some considerations I want to do.

    1) First consideration
    Borghi and Conte-Pieralice experiments show that neutron is formed by proton+electron, n=p+e.
    However in current Nuclear Physics the neutron is formed by quarks, n=(d,u,d).

    Such structure of the neutron formed by proton+electron requires a New Physics.
    In my Quantum Ring Theory it is proposed the spin-fusion phenomenon, and it is shown that several reactions of high energy Physics, not explained by the Standard Model, are explained via the spin-fusion phenomenon (according to which there is a hidden lepton hidden in some structures, as the electron in the structure of the neutron, and positrons and electrons hidden in the structure of some mesons, etc.).

    Therefore the current mathematical structure used in the current theories must be changed.

    .

    2) Second consideration

    The question of the formation of nuclei in the sun is not restricted to 3Li6 and 3Li7 only.

    Cold fusion is not considered in the current theories.
    However, cold fusion (LERN) is today a reality, and it makes no sense to neglect its existence.

    According to my new nuclear, all the nuclei have a hole in their Coulomb electric field.
    Some reactions of cold fusion occur thanks to the existence of this hole, because a particle as a proton or a deuteron can enter within a nucleus via that hole.
    This is possible because some special conditions in cold fusion make possible the nuclei to be aligned in a special direction, and so the hole is aligned in that direction, aligned also with the oscillation of the nucleon.

    In the case of the hot fusion, the particles as the proton or deuteron cannot enter within the nuclei via the hole in the Coulomb electric field, because the nuclei have chaotic motion (due to high pressure and temperature), and therefore the hole gyrates chaotically.

    However, from the statistical viewpoint, the particle has chance to penetrate within a nucleus via the hole in the Coulomb electric field (in spite of the chance is very small).

    So, hot fusion can occur via two processes:

    a) Via classical hot fusion:
    A nucleon (proton, deuteron, 2He4) enters within the nuclei because they pierce the Coulomb field (thanks to their high kinetic energy).
    This phenomenon occurs in accordance to the calculations based on current nuclear models, taking in consideration the cross-section of the collisions between nuclei.
    Such hot fusion phenomenon follows all the calculations made according to current theories.

    b) Via cold fusion occured in hot fusion condictions of high pressure-temperature:
    A nucleon enters within the nuclei via the hole (it is not required the big energy required in hot fusion). The fusion occurs via cold fusion.

    So, the cross-section to be considered is not that calculated from the current nuclear models (because they do not consider the hole in the Coulomb electric field).
    This phenomenon does not occur according to the current calculations made in the current theories.

    Therefore, the cold fusion existence can change the parameters in the nucleosynthesis occured in the Sun, since cold fusion requires a new statistics.

    So, in my oppinion there is need to introduce the statistical contribution of the cold fusion in the calculations of the nucleosynthesis phenomenon in the Sun.

    regards
    wlad

  990. Wladimir Guglinski

    Joe wrote in May 23rd, 2014 at 1:28 PM

    Wladimir,

    In the paper Dark Matter Studies Entrain Nuclear Physics offered by Magnus Holm, it states,

    “There are some problems, the 3Li7 and 3Li6 yields, for example; and these discrepancies have been argued to be signals of new physics
    ————————————–

    Joe,
    what is the page ?

    rds
    wlad

  991. Joe

    Magnus Holm,

    In the paper Dark Matter Studies Entrain Nuclear Physics that you mentioned, it states,

    “The standard model leaves many questions unanswered: it explains, e.g., neither why the weak scale has the value it has, nor the baroque pattern of fermion masses and mixings seen in Nature, nor the size of the observed baryon asymmetry of the Universe (BAU). Most notably, in our current context, it fails to explain dark matter.”

    By the statement “baroque pattern of fermion masses”, is the implication that scientists have yet to discover the mathematical relationship between the masses of the fermions?

    All the best,
    Joe

  992. eernie1

    Dear Magnus,
    Have you conceived an analogy of the membrane theory to the physical world?
    The one that I like is the analogy that describes existence as a series of parallel universes separated by the 11 dimensional membranes. Interaction between membranes of Bosons or Fermions are not allowed because of the non Abelian nature of the interactions until something more forceable intervenes. Some tunneling is allowed but rare and that keeps our universe from undergoing vast changes. The nature of the strings is also non Abelian so infusion of the strings into the adjoining membrane does not create similar particles. The forces in the adjoining membranes also are mitigated by the repulsive character of non allowed QM states.

  993. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    The current eCat reactor uses processed nickel powder of a certain average diameter. You previously reported that the reaction rate was a function of particle size (along with other parameters). With other factors held constant, does the reaction rate increase with smaller average size? What are the practical limits (small and large) for nickel within an eCat reactor?

  994. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Sorry, I cannot give this information.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  995. Joe

    Wladimir,

    In the paper Dark Matter Studies Entrain Nuclear Physics offered by Magnus Holm, it states,

    “There are some problems, the 3Li7 and 3Li6 yields, for example; and these discrepancies have been argued to be signals of new physics, specifically signaling post-BBN [Big Bang Nucleosynthesis] cascade nucleosynthesis stemming from, e.g., super-WIMP decay. However, there may be more prosaic explanations of these issues [...]”

    Do you think QRT is the “new physics” that explains 3Li7 better than “super-WIMP decay”?

    All the best,
    Joe

  996. Giovanni Guerrini

    Dear Dott Magnus Holm,
    thak you very much for the answer and for the reviews,I appreciate it very much.

    Best Regards G G

  997. Italo R.

    Dear Dr Rossi, you have written:
    “…new wave of development without the endemic corruption…”

    I am pessimistic and think that all men are equal independently from their politic ideas.
    I mean: when a man reaches a power position, he becomes like all those he was fighting before.
    Probably it is written in our DNA. It is really sad.

  998. Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.:
    I do not agree. My sensation is that Italy is on the eve of a new Renaissaince.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  999. Dear Giovanni Guerrini,

    Dark Matter was postulated experimentally through observations of velocity discrepancies in spiral arms of galaxies from gravitational solutions to Einstein’s General Relativity Theory. There are now many theories trying to explain what this Dark Matter is and where it comes from. (Enough to be afraid of the Dark). One of these Dark Matter theories is from Branons which are Brane excitations. I am no expertise in the field of Dark Matter to be able to favor one theory from the other but I do believe we are still light years away from a fundamental understanding of everything going on around us in this universe. If you are interested in Dark Matter you might appreciate these 2 reviews on the subject.

    Dark Matter Studies Entrain Nuclear Physics,
    Modified gravity theories explaining dark matter and dark energy.

    Best regards,
    Magnus

  1000. Dear Mr. Orsobubu,

    Thank you for your question. From modern Nuclear Physics we know that LENR need to be a collective phenomenon or otherwise the Coulomb Barrier would be unbreachable. Collective Phenomena is unfortunately very hard to handle theoretically because they usually involves multiple coupled non-linear differential equations. Non-Linear Differential equations are very hard to solve theoretically and if we end up with collective phenomena of perhaps 1000s of particles coupled to each other in a non-linear way the task is impossible. The only hope in those cases are numerical solutions and approximations. Having said that, approximate solutions can of course feedback positively on the theoretical approaches but unless some fundamental theory arises from some strike of genius we will probably end up with 100s of approximate explanations competing through the exclusion process of measurements. When it comes to Particle Physics, the field has alternated between being theory driven and experimentally driven and I do believe we are in an experiment driven phase right now in the wait for the next strike of genius theoretically.

    Best regards,
    Magnus

  1001. curious

    to who may it concern! As I know, but i could be wrong, it does not exist a complete description of a photon. Even for lower frequencies we can speak about single photon, but I’ve never seen an oscilloscope trace of it. Is it a single wave? or a group a waves increasing and after decreasing following a normal curve or what? And when does it finish and overall start (3-4-5 s or what?) and overall when does it begin? Can you give me some address where to find answer, possibly for ignorant and without too much mathematics
    Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I would understand.
    Thanks
    Curious

  1002. Andrea Rossi

    Curious:
    Physics:
    A photon is an elementary quantum of light. It cannot be decomposed ( unless it interacts with another elementary particle and becomes another thing) and is stable, therefore is a real particle ( differently from virtual particles- which are nothing but resonances during the interactions between stable elementary particles- whose life is less than 10^-23 seconds). It does not respect the Pauli principle of exclusion and therefore is a Boson. It is characterized with extreme precision by its wavelength and his frequency. Its energy is given by the equation
    E = h x f
    wherein f is the frequency and h is the Planck constant. From this equation you can see that, being h constant, the higher the frequency, the higher the energy. The most energetic photons are the gamma rays. More higher frequency, obviously, means shorter wavelength.
    From this equation you can also understand that a photon is a precise and indivisible quantum of energy, along the Quantistic Mechanic. In the everyday life you can distinguish several photons, whose wavelength is within the visible specter: the colors we can see, like red, green, yellow etc are the consequences for our eyes of the different wavelengths of different photons. If you want to know exactly how long is a photon, Google ” light spectrum” and you will find how long is a specific photon in metric system units ( remember that, for example, 1 nm- nanometer- is 1 billionth of meter).
    Photons travel in the space at the speed of the light, because they are massless: in fact, all massless particles travel at the speed of the light.
    Photons are the bearers of the electromagnetic interactions ( one of the four foundamental interactions: the other three are the strong, the weak and the gravitational).
    The limits of a single photon are defined by its wavelength and the corresponding electric and magnetic fields. Its life can be infinite, provided it does not interact with some other elementary particle : in fact we can detect today with the modern astronomic observatories photons produced with the Big Bang about 14 billions of years ago ( to remain single sometime makes the life longer).
    All the photons have Spin 1 and electric charge 0.
    Phylosophy:
    This description is that of the Standard Model, therefore, sooner or later, is destined to be considered wrong; paradoxically, the fact that in some different condition the Standard Model is falsifiable, makes it true and valid ( Popper, Fermat).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  1003. Alessandro Coppi

    Thank you for your kind words about Italy.

    O noi o loro!
    Alessandro Coppi

  1004. Dear Andrew,
    E-Cat technology will also be sold in Italy or as written on some sites only in countries such as the Netherlands, the United States and China?
    In Italy and Croatia soon trivelleranno the entire Adriatic Sea to extract more oil.
    When you think about your technology will come to Italy?
    We are all with you!

  1005. Andrea Rossi

    Ing. Michelangelo De Meo:
    If the results of third independent party and of the R&D in course will be positive ( remind that they could be negative, as far as I know so far), this technology will be at the service of whomever will really want to use it, indipendently fom the geographig belonging.
    About Italy: I have not any political connection, obviously, not living anymore in Italy, but still I hope M5S will win, to give to Italy a new wave of development without the endemic corruption that has devastated this wonderful Country, that still has a powerful potential.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  1006. mpc755

    Aether has mass and physically occupies three dimensional space.

    There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter anchored to matter.

    Matter moves through and displaces the aehter.

    The Milky Way’s halo is not dark matter traveling along with the matter the Milky Way consists of.

    The Milky Way’s halo is the state of displacement of the aether.

    The Milky Way’s halo is curved spacetime.

    What is referred to geometrically as curved spacetime is the state of displacement of the aether.

  1007. What is the proof of the existence of the aether?
    Is it only a conjecture like the “strong force” in nuclear physics?

  1008. Eric Ashworth

    Wladimir, I could not agree with you more with what you say May 21st 2014 at 5.06 pm. The bottom line is that there is a secret being kept with regards atomic physics. I have been involved with this subject for 25 years non academic and I believe this secret is with regards the the macro system of evolution. How can I say this you may ask, because I have been in contact with people who have confirmed this information and I know you have been through the same gamut yourself. Your QR theory is correct. The unified field is from a binary system of energy/aether. The middle principle being the life force of nature but in the understanding of a duality to form a triplicity involving a life force seems to be a great secret and therefore a denial will always be present. I do have an embodied concept with regards a binary system of interaction that creates a unified field but alas it has been rejected at the higher level whenerver reached with an explanation of either it’s before its time or it’s destructive technology. Your theory involves an understanding of Ana and Douglas which to me is a binaryu system of interaction and this is the same as my embodied concept that demonstrates a unified field. The neutron has to a constructive dimension that relies upon two absolutes to exist. This subject I believe is about geometry and aether. I do not think the basics are difficult to understand but it is like a ball of wool, how many knots can you make from a single thread to make a ball complicated. It is now time I believe to put forward a statement, this statement is my personal experience with regards atomic/astrophysics an embodied concept and reactions of academia. Our present academic system with regards certain aspects of knowledge must never reveal the true nature of reality because if it does it will reveal a necessary triplicity of interaction that must exist to form a stable structure and this involves planetary evolution with regards humanity. It really is not difficult to understand why the fundamental problems in modern physics exist and why embodied concepts together with experimental data are disregarded. Thanks for the information, all the best Eric Ashworth.

  1009. Wladimir Guglinski

    Koen Vandewalle wrote in May 21st, 2014 at 5:06 PM

    My question:
    What are the chances that the developers of microprocessors and memory would not have a nearly perfect model of the physical structure existing in Nature.
    This knowledge is in private hands, who have interest in the scientific community being erroneous about it.
    ——————————

    dear Koen,

    the discovery of the physical structure existing in the Nature requires the discovery of the following:

    - the discovery of the physical model of photon (there no exist a physical model of photon in current theories).

    - the discovery of the true physical model of proton, electron, neutron, and neutrino/antineutrino (which are the unique five stable elementary particles of matter in the Universe)

    - the discovery of the true physical nuclear model existing in the nature (the experiments along the 5 past years are showing that current nuclear models are wrong).

    - the discovery of the true physical model of atom (working with the partnership of the aether in the elecrosphere)

    - the discovery of the true physical model of the aether

    .

    I dont think the developers of microprocessors have chance to get any near approach to the structures mentioned above.

    regards
    wlad

  1010. Koen Vandewalle

    Wladimir Guglinski,
    You wrote:

    So, in order to discover the final theory of Physics, there is need to discover such physical structure existing in the Nature.

    My question:
    What are the chances that the developers of microprocessors and memory would not have a nearly perfect model of the physical structure existing in Nature.
    This knowledge is in private hands, who have interest in the scientific community being erroneous about it.

    The utmost important science or its key-factors that are under industrial or military secrets will not be in peer reviewed journals, I believe. Not in a hundred years.

    So, the louder they call “Wrong !” the more interesting it becomes. The battle with an overzealous gatekeeper reveals the presence of a nearby gate, isn’t it ?

    Best Regards,
    Koen

  1011. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Many months ago you discussed a possible direct eCat to electricity conversion. As I recall, it was a secondary effect you saw and were investigating.

    1. What is the status of your research?

    2. Does this look practical or is the more conventional Carnot cycle the better option?

  1012. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    1- R&D
    2- Carnot cycle is the more efficient conversion cycle to apply, so far.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  1013. Giovanni Guerrini

    Dr Magnus Holm.
    Dear Dr Holm,what do you think about the theoretical possibility that a gravitatonal interaction among branes gives the effects observed that led to postulate the existence of dark matter ?

    Thank you.

    Regards G G

  1014. Wladimir Guglinski

    orsobubu wrote in May 18th, 2014 at 5:09 PM

    Neil Turok at Perimeter Institute concedes that theorists are disheartened at that situation, and that they are at a crossroad in theoretical (and particle) physics, calling it a deep crisis. He described the LHC results as “simple, yet extremely puzzling” and said “we have to get people to try to find the new principles that will explain the simplicity”.
    —————————————–

    Dear Orsobubu

    of course there is a physical structure of matter and aether existing in the Nature.

    So, in order to discover the final theory of Physics, there is need to discover such physical structure existing in the Nature.
    With such a procedure, the physical structure can be complex, but the mathematics to be used will be simple.

    But the attempt made by the physicists is via mathematical structure. With such a procedure, the mathematical structure is complex, since the physicists start from the most simplest physical structures.

    But there is no doubt: they will never succeed with such attempt starting from the complex mathematical structure, because the physical structure existing in the Nature is more complex than the simple physical structure considered in their current theories.

    regards
    wlad

  1015. Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in May 20th, 2014 at 7:40 AM

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Time for peer reviewing is longer now for publications on the Journal of Nuclear Physics: the average is 6 months, so do not worry if you will have to wait several months before the publication.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    ———————————————

    Dear Andrea,
    no problem.

    the science progresses slowly

    regards
    wlad

  1016. This may be of interest …. turning photons into electrons and positrons?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-27470034

    Rodney.

  1017. Andrea Rossi

    Rodney Nicholson:
    Thank you for the link, very interesting.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  1018. Wladimir Guglinski

    From: wladimirguglinski@hotmail.com
    To: info@leonardocorp1996.com
    Subject: submission paper
    Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 09:09:27 -0300

    Dear Andrea

    I would like to submit for publication in the Journal of Nuclear Physics my paper

    Aether Structure for unification between gravity and electromagnetism

    Please find it attached enclose

    regards
    Wladimir Guglinski
    ————————————————-

    .

    Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 14:22:23 +0200
    From: info@leonardocorp1996.com
    To: wladimirguglinski@hotmail.com
    Subject: Re: submission paper

    All right, sent to peer reviewing.
    Warmest Regards,
    Andrea

  1019. Andrea Rossi

    Wladimir Guglinski:
    Time for peer reviewing is longer now for publications on the Journal of Nuclear Physics: the average is 6 months, so do not worry if you will have to wait several months before the publication.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  1020. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    The humanitarian work that you mention Industrial Heat will be involved with — will this be using E-Cat technology?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  1021. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Also.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  1022. Wladimir Guglinski

    Eric Ashworth wrote in May 19th, 2014 at 6:45 PM

    Wladimir, With you being in touch with academia I would like to know whether people in mainstream physics believe in the aether.
    —————————————–

    Dear Eric

    in spite of the experiment published in the journal Nature in 2013 is the definitive proof on the existence of the aether, the community of physicists continues rejecting the aether.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/Light-created-from-vacuum-shows-empty-space-a-myth/articleshow/10789049.cms?referral=PM

    The experiment shows that Einstein was wrong.
    But it is hard for the scientific community to accept that he was wrong.

    regards
    wlad

  1023. Eric Ashworth

    Wladimir, With you being in touch with academia I would like to know whether people in mainstream physics believe in the aether. If not what do they consider atoms to be made of. I have read about dark matter and I think they are refering to the aether, a name is just a name. What do you think?. Also I believe that geometry and maths exists because of aether. I am curious with regards this very basic question that I feel is necessary regarding a substance that must account for everything because if basic understanding is flawed nothing onward will make any sense. Regards Eric Ashworth.

  1024. orsobubu

    I like that personalities in cold fusion field, as Dr. Magnus Holm, are experienced in high level theoretical physics. I feel somehow reassured. I would be very interested myself in the subject, but I cannot progress further the third line of the introduction of the article, since it is a long time – sigh! – I can’t even remember what is an abelian group or a surjective homomorphism. Here is a simple link for dummies:

    http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/string-theory-and-supersymmetry.html

    This is an extract from Wikipedia explaining the current state of crisis among scientists in the field of Standard Model theories, particle physics and gravity.

    ——-
    The first realistic supersymmetric version of the Standard Model was proposed in 1981 by Howard Georgi and Savas Dimopoulos and is called the Minimal Supersymmetric Standard Model or MSSM for short. It was proposed to solve the hierarchy problem and predicts superpartners with masses between 100 GeV and 1 TeV.

    As of September 2011, no meaningful signs of the superpartners have been observed.The Large Hadron Collider at CERN is producing the world’s highest energy collisions and offers the best chance at discovering superparticles for the foreseeable future.

    After the discovery of the Higgs particle in 2012, it was expected that supersymmetric particles would be found at CERN, but there has been still no evidence of them. The LHCb and CMS experiments at the LHC made the first definitive observation of a Strange B meson decaying into two muons, confirming a standard model prediction, but a blow for those hoping for signs of supersymmetry. Neil Turok at Perimeter Institute concedes that theorists are disheartened at that situation, and that they are at a crossroad in theoretical (and particle) physics, calling it a deep crisis. He described the LHC results as “simple, yet extremely puzzling” and said “we have to get people to try to find the new principles that will explain the simplicity”.
    ——

    Differently from social sciences, where the ultimate reality is already crystal-clear for 150 years (the reality of the Capital, the exploitation of man by other men), I think that in natural sciences our mathematics and “standard mdodels” are very, very unsatisfactory.

    I would like to know if Dr. Magnus Holm’s interest in cold fusion is due to these difficulties and inconsistencies in his field of research, and if he believes LENRs studies could help in the process of scientific knowledge in general.

    (Being a little masochist, I would also like to make a poll to know to what extent of the article each reader of JONP is able to understand it, as I said I can reach – with a certain shameful difficulty – the third line of the introduction.)

  1025. Andrea Rossi

    Orsobubu:
    Thank you for your comment, that indroduces us to the paper published today on the Journal of Nuclear Physics:
    GEOMETRY OF STRING THEORY SOLITONS
    by Dr Magnus Holm . It is an important work of this scientist made in 1999, but I find his work dense of important information. It is not an easy reading, the work is rigorous, but this is the Journal of Nuclear Physics, and the paper is perfectly in line with the field of application of our Journal. Dr Magnus Holm is presently working also with me for the E-Cat.
    About the comment of our friend Orsobubu: I do not share his certainties regarding the so called “social sciences”.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  1026. Steven N. Karels

    Greetings from Guatemala,

    I am on a medical mission trip. This week we serviced 285 Mayan Indians near Chichicastenago. I worked in the Lab doing urine and blood testing. Guatemala, the fourth poorest country in the world, could definitely use eCat technology for heating. I previously prepared and delivered a couple of Village Water Purification systems and they are in use. 10 to 12 more have been requested for my October trip. They are provided at no cost.

  1027. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Congratulation for your effort in Guatemala, you have all my admiration. The Industrial Heat Group is making a strong work of this kind in Africa, where will be destined a substantial part of the proceeds of our activity.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  1028. Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Since the time that Industrial Heat announced they had acquired the E-Cat, what has been the level of interest in your technology from business and industry interest been like? Have you been talking with people interested in seeing the E-Cat in operation?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  1029. Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Yes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  1030. Wladimir Guglinski

    Koen Vandewalle wrote in May 17th, 2014 at 7:54 AM

    Wladimir,

    Indeed, we need to study simplest magnet motors. Does your Figueiredo Motor work in an aluminum box ? Or is it influenced by a thick aluminum plate ?
    —————————————-

    Koen,
    I dont know.
    I did not test it within an aluminium box, nor the influence by a thick aluminium plate

    regards
    wlad

  1031. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    My point was the critic are “clutching at straws” in their attempts to explain away the success of last year’s eCat testing. When analyzed, their claims are not credible. But they serve the greater purpose of improving the testing protocol for this years tests.

  1032. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    You are right, critics have been very useful. We learnt from them.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  1033. Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I am curious how the critics of last year’s study can suggest that the excess power was due to an unobserved DC component. As I recall, the computed average COP was around 3 and the total output power was around 12 kiloWatts. For all the excess heat, around 8 kiloWatts, to be attributed to a DC component would require a large current (e.g., 80 Amps @ 100 Volts). I understood the applied power was European current, 220 VAC, so the single phase current would be around 20 Amps. Would not the power cabling to additionally handle 8 kiloWatts of power be noticed?

  1034. Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Anyway, the issue has been foreseen in the test protocol this year and the electric power at the input has been measured also to detect with precision any direct current contribution. As I said, in 2013 it has not been done because the issue was totally out of the mind of everybody.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  1035. Enrico Billi

    Engineers are improving the performances of the prototypes, patent pending…
    KEEP CALM AND
    lavoLaLe lavoLaLe,

    Enrico Billi

  1036. Koen Vandewalle

    Wladimir,
    you wrote: May 16th, 2014 at 8:53 PM

    “It is hard to discover the structure of the aether from the analysis of the working of those prototypes.

    In order to discover the underlying mechanisms responsible for the magnet motors working, we need to study simplest magnet motors.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMYy4nioQXM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWxFW531lXM

    One of the differences between these video’s and the video’s with the device well working, is the presence of the trolley made ​​of aluminum.
    With the device opened, it can be seen that it consists of materials with different magnetic permeability. This may be to guide or to cut several magnetic fields -which could be flows of aether- depending on the position of the internal magnets.

    In analogy with wind turbines, which need flows of air, and therefor are set up preferably outdoors, and solar panels, which need to be in the light and not in the dark basement, maybe these magnetic machines are driven by the flows of magnetism (or aether if you like) around us. This time, fortunately, the 24/7 presence of this magnetic wind may be in our advantage even if it is not completely constant.

    Indeed, we need to study simplest magnet motors. Does your Figueiredo Motor work in an aluminum box ? Or is it influenced by a thick aluminum plate ?

    Questions to ask: Are our thoughts and dreams influenced by the aether ? Is it safe to tap in this source ? The big tap in the black stuff from under the ground was not completely safe, so it seems by now.

    That other video, Mark referenced to, with the not so well built device: It is harmfull and disturbing, because one needs technical knowledge and experience to understand what the problems are. This makes that a lot of people loose their initial interest in new energy technologies and loose their trust in some of the creative minds, whose voices are not always loud enough, and whose financial means are not large enough to finance all the R&D and PR. Since we don’t have AI, or methods to inherit creativity, that creativity dies with the person. So the time that is available
    This also makes that lots of people only believe the known and accepted sources of scientific information and education, although these are not the only sources of science.
    We don’t even need a conspiracy. It is the inflation of the individual creativity in our times.
    This slows us down, while we urgently need to speed some important changes.
    Thousands of years ago, someone wrote some 10 good advises on a couple of stones. One of it: You should not lie.
    A lie is everything that intentionally makes someone else misunderstand, and intentionally does not check the good comprehension if early signs of misunderstanding do occur.
    The harm done to humanity through lies and misinformation is so huge and may even lead to the extinct of our species.

    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  1037. Enrico Billi

    Dear Andrea,
    using graphene and quarz, it is possible to make electricity thanks to the properties of electrons when they are squeezed on a 2D layer like graphene. As quantum physics says these electrons becames “anyons” so their properties changes and electrons became superconductive. Quarz release electrons when it is warm so you can make electricity directly without turbines or stirling engines.

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DO3aq919Xcs/Uz9JHbyYGtI/AAAAAAAAAa8/OOxwVkAgEiM/s1600/CellaEnergeticaStatoSolido.png

    Do you think it could helpfull for you e-cat?
    LavoLaLe lavoLaLe

    Enrico Billi

  1038. Andrea Rossi

    Enrico Billi:
    I am still waiting for your proposal for graphene bi-dimensional power generation concept.
    Lavolale, lavolale!
    A.

  1039. Wladimir Guglinski

    Mark wrote in May 15th, 2014 at 4:35 AM

    Wlad,

    someone else has already done this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHW6b1aFPfU

    and has got the patent
    ————————————————

    Mark
    the problem with the magnet motors like that invented by Muammer Yildiz is because they are very complex, and it is hard to discover the magnetic mechanism underlying its working.

    It is hard to discover the structure of the aether from the analysis of the working of those prototypes.

    In order to discover the underlying mechanisms responsible for the magnet motors working, we need to study simplest magnet motors.

    This is ther reason why I consider the Figueiredo Motor very important for the discovery of the structure of the aether.
    In the future the scienti